07-05-2007, 05:08 PM | #251 |
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This day has been boring far too long. Let's make some noise. I would like to know more from Izulde as well...for lack of a better selection.
VOTE Izulde
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07-05-2007, 05:12 PM | #252 |
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Hoops I think giving info is a way to gain trust. I wouldn't think that the wolves would necessarily hide info at all, especially as the info that has been given is rather sparse.
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07-05-2007, 05:13 PM | #253 |
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Just got out of a meeting and catching up. Doesn't look like I missed much.
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07-05-2007, 05:15 PM | #254 |
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VOTE HOOPSGUY
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07-05-2007, 05:20 PM | #255 |
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Since everyone's checked in, would the person that I passed the recipe to please verify that it was what I said it was?
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07-05-2007, 05:21 PM | #256 |
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07-05-2007, 05:25 PM | #257 |
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Nice to see 6 members online right now, means people are around and thinking =)
I was in teh kitchen last night, my PM said I might find something with more time there but it mentioned nothing of anyone else being there either. |
07-05-2007, 05:25 PM | #258 | |
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Just to clarify, are you suggesting you saw another person last night? Or are you saying that someone had already posted that they were in the same room you were last night - which would dissuade you from the idea that we could use PMs to pin down by location? |
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07-05-2007, 05:27 PM | #259 |
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I know I was in the storeroom as well.
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07-05-2007, 05:33 PM | #260 |
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OK, here are the results of my digging from today's posts:
Post #145 - Alan posts night results, DT dead in library Post #146 - Pass says he was in library, got a recipe Post #147 - Ardent in storeroom, no other info Post #149 - Lathum in storeroom, found nothing Post #150 - Hoops in kitchen, found nothing Post #151 - NTN in library, found nothing Post #154 - RenderR in kitchen, found nothing Post #159 - Barkeep posts, but no info on previous night Post #160 - ChiefRum in library, found nothing, could learn with more study Post #161 - Swaggs in library, learned recipe Post #162 - Cronin in great hall, "enigmatic" PM Post #166 - LSG posts, but no info on previous night Post #175 - Izulde received no info of any sort, thinks he slept in his room? Post #216 - Path spent night in kitchen Post #222 - Barkeep posts that he was in the storeroom - LSG has posted multiple times without reporting results from last night. - Barkeep posted multiple times before indicating what room he was in, no indication of finding/not finding anything - Ardent has never indicated if he found anything last night - Cronin has never indicated if he found anything last night - Path has never indicated if he found anything last night |
07-05-2007, 05:37 PM | #261 |
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Ardent and BK - did either of you receive any kind of info about the other person being in the room with you? Because up to this point I haven't heard anything that suggests we would learn this type of information. Based on my own PM and what others have posted ...
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07-05-2007, 05:40 PM | #262 |
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I am stating that I don't think we learn who else was with us as I was in the storeroom, as were several others, and none of us have suggested that we got a notice stating that we saw each other.
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07-05-2007, 05:40 PM | #263 |
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Hoops I told y'all what happened last night. I spent the final night of my trip in Houston with my mother and flew in yesterday afternoon and did not tell Alant where I wanted to go. Totally my fault, but I got caught up in saying good bye to family and forgot all about telling Alant where I wanted to sleep. So I am right along with Izulde, I guess I slept in my room. I had no PM from Alant since the initial post telling me my name and my one ingredient.
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07-05-2007, 05:41 PM | #264 |
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And I really don't feel like we learned anything over the night which is very disappointing and it seems to have left a lot of us confused over who to vote for tonight.
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07-05-2007, 05:42 PM | #265 |
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Yeah, I'm curious about this as well. If you clip me you aren't going to be losing any kind of cool role and I'll move my item along before dying. But I like to think I bring some value to the table in terms of generating conversation that puts pressure on bad guys. |
07-05-2007, 05:44 PM | #266 | |
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After sifting through stuff (the PM made it sound like there was a whole bunch of stuff in the storeroom) I settled on a yellow flower.
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07-05-2007, 05:44 PM | #267 | |
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I saw that part, but I guess I didn't follow where you had results that matched Izulde's. Especially since I recall you being suspicious of him earlier - will go find the post or else post saying my memory was off. |
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07-05-2007, 05:44 PM | #268 |
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*Grumbles* My last post didn't go through, so here it is again.
I'm still very unsure of almost everyone and while I am willing to change my votebefore the dealine I am going to keep the vote even as it stands right now: VOTE LSG |
07-05-2007, 05:44 PM | #269 |
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VOTE IZULDE
I'm willing to move it, but I'd like to hear more from him at this point. |
07-05-2007, 05:47 PM | #270 | |
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In terms of "pushing the envelope" - there aren't all that many posts to go through. A bad guy could certainly do the same thing I did while trying to figure out his night target. So I could have kept this information private, hoping that I wasn't helping the bad guys out, or make it public and give everyone the opportunity to respond to it while making their voting decisions. |
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07-05-2007, 05:50 PM | #271 |
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My PM also indicated a lot of stuff, however most of it was deemed "worthless". I have no doubt that Ardent was in the storeroom, though I'm not sure what good that does.
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07-05-2007, 05:52 PM | #272 | |
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Here are all the Izulde-related posts, so it looks like I was remembering incorrectly about LSG casting suspicion at him. It was, in fact, Passacaglia that she questioned. However, you did have an opportunity to match up with Izulde's story earlier as suspicion was building towards him. If I had found myself not submitting my night action, and then seeing Izulde take heat, I think I would have pointed out that his report was consistent with what I had seen. |
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07-05-2007, 05:55 PM | #274 |
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I really dont want to vote Izulde, since he hasn't played in awhile, just to get pressure off of myself but he really hasn't posted that much and didn't vote yesterday so I guess that will anyway
vote izulde |
07-05-2007, 05:57 PM | #275 |
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I want to go back to this post by barkeep:
Originally Posted by Barkeep49 View Post "I agree. Seems to me people have a default sleeping place, in this case the great room, if they don't submit. I feel like he'd still have gotten a "you didn't get anything" PM." I didn't tell Alant anything and I did not receive a pm at all |
07-05-2007, 05:59 PM | #276 |
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I dont think Izulde is taking a lot of heat, I think people are voting for him to get him to talk and he isn't on right now so he isn't able to. People are going to vote for him for lack of information. but honestly, if he was a wolf, wouldn't he be online more and take more interest in this game???
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07-05-2007, 06:02 PM | #277 |
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Here is what I'm showing for votes right now, as of Post #276:
LSG - Cronin (164), RendeR (268) Hoops - Barkeep (213), Lathum (254) Izulde - Path (219), AE (251), Pass (269), LSG (274) |
07-05-2007, 06:05 PM | #278 |
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You know, LSG and Izulde seem to have similar stories. I don't want to vote for either of them. So I am gonna go out onto a limb.
Vote Path - - there are a couple of minor things that lead me that way...first person voting on Izulde for differing story than most of us. - - only revealing his kitchen location and not mentioning whether or not he found something. These lead me more towards him than anyone else. (Although iadmit ihave no strong feeling about anyone...just small uneasynesses) |
07-05-2007, 06:07 PM | #279 | |
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not neccesarily. If you have a busy day in real life you have a busy day in real life. that can not be avoided. |
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07-05-2007, 06:25 PM | #280 |
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Hoops, I don't suppose you have a list of who stayed where last night, do you?
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07-05-2007, 06:28 PM | #281 |
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Just from memory I think I have:
Great Hall - st.cronin Possibly Nowhere - Izulde, LoneStarGirl Kitchen - DaddyTorgo Storeroom - ardent enthusiast, Barkeep49 |
07-05-2007, 06:30 PM | #282 |
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actually DT died in the Library, iwas there as well,
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07-05-2007, 06:31 PM | #283 |
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some of that info is in post 260 cronin
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07-05-2007, 06:34 PM | #284 |
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Updated:
Great Hall - st.cronin Possibly Nowhere - Izulde, LoneStarGirl Library - DaddyTorgo, ntndeacon, Chief Rum, Swaggs, Passacaglia Kitchen - RendeR, hoopsguy Storeroom - ardent enthusiast, Barkeep49 |
07-05-2007, 06:37 PM | #285 |
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Looks like path is the only one who I don't know where he was last night.
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07-05-2007, 06:38 PM | #286 |
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I'm going to vote for somebody in the Library.
unvote LoneStarGirl Vote Chief Rum |
07-05-2007, 06:44 PM | #287 |
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My idea might take some balls, but I still think it is a good idea.
Our goal here is to find some information out. I may be wrong, but it appears that we don't have any specialized roles to help us. I'm not sure how we are supposed to build a CoT without potions/spells and if we don't work together on getting them to the same person, we are in a catch-22. I think it is a poor idea to broadcast recipes, so I think I offered a decent alternative. I think I asked for some fairly specific items to make the recipe, so I was obviously not asking for everything, AND I would clearly be accountable for the recipe, so it isn't like I could do a whole lot of underhanded stuff with it. I feel suspcious of Pass, because I think if he were fleshing thoughts out with others, they would have considered my proposal as something helpful for us students and thought of ways to keep it from happening. I'm not sure what to do with the recipe now, since the day is almost over. I will probably just randomly pass it to someone. Vote Passacaglia |
07-05-2007, 06:49 PM | #288 |
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Swaggs, you're going about it exactly backwards. You're asking people to include you in their CoT without giving a good reason for it. Whereas if you were to identify a person as trustworthy, and you passed them the recipe, that person would then trust you, and would perhaps be able to return the favor in some way. Now, granted, you might give the recipe to a wolf, but that's probably pretty low odds.
I also think that's exactly what Pass has done, and that's what I would do if I had a recipe I couldn't use. |
07-05-2007, 06:51 PM | #289 | |
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That's all fine in theory, but how are you planning on building a CoT? |
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07-05-2007, 06:56 PM | #290 | |
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No idea. But I also don't have anything valuable, except some very vague idea of what happens in the Great Hall. I expect that will be public info tomorrow, though. |
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07-05-2007, 06:57 PM | #291 | |
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If you have any items, they might be valuable. I'm glad you have faith that things will reveal themselves. I don't share that hope. |
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07-05-2007, 07:02 PM | #292 |
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Swaggs, the most basic point I want to get across to you is this: We know that the wolves start out the game with recipes. So anybody who says "I have a recipe" is going to have an impossible time earning trust, unless they either make that recipe public (which I am not advocating), or pass the recipe on to somebody else.
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07-05-2007, 07:04 PM | #293 | |
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How do we know that wolves start out with recipes? |
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07-05-2007, 07:11 PM | #294 |
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07-05-2007, 07:18 PM | #295 | |
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I agree, but are useful "finished" products like spells/crystal ball/potions found whole or do they need built/constructed? I was under the assumption that we need to acquire their plans and components and put them together, but maybe I am way off. |
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07-05-2007, 07:21 PM | #296 |
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That's what has me concerned as well. This whole process of guessing what items combine make me feel like I'm playing Monster Rancher Werewolf. Probably a bad example, but anyone who's played MR may know what I'm talking about.
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07-05-2007, 07:23 PM | #297 | |
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Because we have enough leeway, IMO, to go a day in this manner, especially where the odds are tremendously against us actually catching a wolf. I think that leeway ends at one day, though. Giving away two days to the wolves is too much for too little gain. |
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07-05-2007, 07:30 PM | #298 | |
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I am, too. I mean, I was in the library last night, and there were others, too, according to personal admissions made here, and none of us say a guy getting his neck broke. So my guess is we're not going to see kills unless we have magic to see them, or we somehow survive said attack (if we're the victims). |
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07-05-2007, 07:31 PM | #299 |
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No I think these things are assembled as well, which means we're going to be slow in constructing our COT. Consider it advantage wolves.
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07-05-2007, 07:39 PM | #300 | |
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Both this and Izulde's story don't fly with me. There is no "room" for everyone. We're tarpped in a great hall with three rooms off to the side. Either you sleep in one of the three rooms, or you sleep in the great hall, which, according to the rules, is the default. So there shouldn't be any missing PMs from not having sent in a location to spend the night. I am undecided at this point if I will vote for LSG or Izulde, but that's where I am leaning right now. |
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