WW small game: James Bond - Goldfinger (Game Over)

[dubb93]

And for the reason. I'm not convinced a bad Blade would be crazy in this game. What does he have to gain? Where has anyone slipped up? I think Blade is going more UTR, throwing junk out there and disappearing. I know for a fact that he threw his day 1 vote away on Path and he is voting a 00 on day 2. I think that is clearly a bad voting record.

[Fouts]

I want my vote to count, too. So voting for Barkeep is a waste (right now).

unvote barkeep
vote blade

The only worry I have is if blade is a named good guy role.

[DaddyTorgo]

i'm completely sure i'm clean so the target doesn't worry me.

i suppose i COULD be wrong about Blade, but not from what I've seen.

Frankly it's still early to have a handle on anyone, and small-games are apparently difficult because of the importance of every night, every action.

that being said...guess my vote stays where it was.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

that being said...guess my vote stays where it was.

Good luck with that decision.

[Fouts]

Wow, either you are bad, or you are ok with killing 2 villagers.

[DaddyTorgo]

well i won't say that i hope that i'm wrong. but i am sorry if i'm wrong.

[DaddyTorgo]

i'm not bad. and i'm not okay with killing 2 villagers. but there isn't another credible suspect.

LSG/CR/Path

then maybe
Barkeep

assuming you two wouldn't vote for yourselves. but you won't vote for anyone but Blade and I'm not going down that road with you.

[dubb93]

You know, I'm getting a bad guy vibe from DT right now. And I must say, earlier in the day Path got that vibe.

Post 182 by path in response to a DT post:

Have to say that this post made me go "hmmmm.....you can't be bad AGAIN, can you?"

Post 187 after DT claims not to be bad again, again this is a Path post:

You say that every time.

It struck me odd because I got a vibe of looking for a bandwagon to jump on. However, we seem to have gotten on the same one anyway.

We'll see. I hope we get a baddie.

Now out of the 3 on me right now I have the best faith in Path b/c he has provided good analysis and even voting records and unvotes/votes. He also slipped up and miscounted the current number of people left in the game, something I think a bad guy would know full well.

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

well i won't say that i hope that i'm wrong. but i am sorry if i'm wrong.

If dubb turns out a villager, I doubt you are sorry.

I cannot be 100% sure dubb is a villager, but I have been playing this game for awhile, and can read some people. If he has me fooled, then he is the best player ever.

[DaddyTorgo]

i do find it curious that you're both trying to talk me out of this though. that does speak volumes for one/both of you in terms of telling the truth. because if you were both evil you wouldn't risk trying to talk me out of it together, you'd leave that for dubb, who's on the block as is.

gives me pause. but again, where's the credible alternative?

[dubb93]

And as Path said earlier, DT was looking for me and Fouts to give him a bandwagon to jump on, he just wasn't happy that we settled on Blade.

[Fouts]

Dubb, it would be hard for me to tie it up without complete knowledge of your innocence.

[DaddyTorgo]

maybe the bad-guy vibe is due to the fact that i was evil for a bunch of games in a row? i'm definately not evil this time. If someone wants to dig into all my posts I think they would see that.

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by dubb93

And as Path said earlier, DT was looking for me and Fouts to give him a bandwagon to jump on, he just wasn't happy that we settled on Blade.

Something just hit me. I think we should listen to DT.

[Fouts]

unvote blade
vote Chief Rum

[DaddyTorgo]

i wouldn't say i'm looking for a "bandwagon." I'm looking to find a bad guy. The fact remains that there's so few players in this game that almost any successful vote becomes a "bandwagon" of sorts. and FWIW it was me who raised the questions about dubb, so if that's anyone's "bandwagon" it's my own.

[Fouts]

There is no way DT would back blade if they were both bad.

[DaddyTorgo]

dubb...are you willing to vote CR?

[dubb93]

UNVOTE BLADE

VOTE CHIEF RUM

I'm not very happy about this, but I know I'm good and there is atleast a chance CR could be bad.

[Blade6119]

Dissapearing act? Im sorry i have more pressing matters then this game, like taking care of my dog before and after surgery this afternoon.

Sorry if your good dubb, but the three other suspects i saw today(myself, barkeep, and DT) are the 3 people im unwilling to vote for at this point.

[dubb93]

At the very least CR has added nothing to help us so far.

[Fouts]

How are you guys able to build a cot so early?

[DaddyTorgo]

unvote dubb

vote chief rum

[Fouts]

Good luck DT. I hope you got it right.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Fouts

How are you guys able to build a cot so early?

Early? The game is almost over and I have no circle of trust that stretch's outside of you.

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Early? The game is almost over and I have no circle of trust that stretch's outside of you.

blade claimed 3 people in his cot. I'm trying to figure out how.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Early? The game is almost over and I have no circle of trust that stretch's outside of you.

If we miss on this lynch, be it dubb or chief, that leaves us down 4-2 assuming a night kill(we have no bodyguard). And 1 of those 4 isnt working for us.

So dubb is correct, things are a lot more dire then fouts seems to think.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Fouts

blade claimed 3 people in his cot. I'm trying to figure out how.

Blade - Myself, how can i not trust myself

Barkeep - I believe him to be 007, hence my trust

DT - Refused to swap to me, discussed ideas more then anyone else. If dubb trusts you, i should trust DT.

[DaddyTorgo]

i hope we did too. Whether we did or we didn't though, this will tell us a lot about the one or the both of you.

I'd be curious to know why you two trust each other though?

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

If we miss on this lynch, be it dubb or chief, that leaves us down 4-2 assuming a night kill(we have no bodyguard). And 1 of those 4 isnt working for us.

So dubb is correct, things are a lot more dire then fouts seems to think.

For such a "dire" situation you have so far thrown your vote away on day 1 and claimed a bandwagon on a super agent(namely me) on day 2.

[Alan T]

Times over. I'll total up votes and stuff in a sec

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i hope we did too. Whether we did or we didn't though, this will tell us a lot about the one or the both of you.

I'd be curious to know why you two trust each other though?

I gave my reasons before. Interesting timing on your vote switch to CR. I have seen that used as a ploy by the bad guys before.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I'd be curious to know why you two trust each other though?

Well, I know I'm good and Fouts refuses to allow me to be lynched. Anyone that goes out of their way to see to it I don't get lynched when I'm good earns a spot in my COT.

[DaddyTorgo]

honestly, as much as "wasting" a lynch to learn more about you two Fouts/Dubb was worth the precarious position that I think that it puts us in, especially because I honestly don't think that both of you are evil and I have serious doubts about whether Dubb is evil after the fact that you two spent so much time here trying to talk me out of the lynch.

anyways i need coffee so i don't fall asleep right now. i'll be back in like 30 to discuss more.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by dubb93

For such a "dire" situation you have so far thrown your vote away on day 1 and claimed a bandwagon on a super agent(namely me) on day 2.

Day 1 is day 1, sorry but that dont fly.

Day 2 i placed my vote on a canidate that won 3-2, with all 3 votes being placed on you when you had said basically nothing since the start of the game.

Suprise suprise, when you get called out on it you show up. You want to blame me for going away after, then its a double-edged sword. You got yourself lynched by doing nothing to help until your fate was sealed. If your good, i really dont feel sorry about this one. You were the best choice at the time of my vote, and i didnt catch up in time to change it.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Fouts

I gave my reasons before. Interesting timing on your vote switch to CR. I have seen that used as a ploy by the bad guys before.

If I get lynched b/c of that vote timing by DT, I hope you guys know where to go tomorrow.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

unvote dubb

vote chief rum

For the record, this vote came after the deadline so didnt count.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Day 1 is day 1, sorry but that dont fly.

Day 2 i placed my vote on a canidate that won 3-2, with all 3 votes being placed on you when you had said basically nothing since the start of the game.

Suprise suprise, when you get called out on it you show up. You want to blame me for going away after, then its a double-edged sword. You got yourself lynched by doing nothing to help until your fate was sealed. If your good, i really dont feel sorry about this one. You were the best choice at the time of my vote, and i didnt catch up in time to change it.

Yea Blade, whatever. Day 1 is not day 1 in a 10 man game. You don't throw your vote away. Whatever Blade, blah blah blah. At this point you have the shitiest voting record of all. Have fun with that tomorrow.

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Day 1 is day 1, sorry but that dont fly.

Day 2 i placed my vote on a canidate that won 3-2, with all 3 votes being placed on you when you had said basically nothing since the start of the game.

Suprise suprise, when you get called out on it you show up. You want to blame me for going away after, then its a double-edged sword. You got yourself lynched by doing nothing to help until your fate was sealed. If your good, i really dont feel sorry about this one. You were the best choice at the time of my vote, and i didnt catch up in time to change it.

Fate was sealed? The guy was here for a long time and only had 1 vote lead on the next candidate. How in the world is that a sealed fate?

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Fouts

I gave my reasons before. Interesting timing on your vote switch to CR. I have seen that used as a ploy by the bad guys before.

what do you mean? i wasn't going to switch to CR unless dubb did too. His willingness to listen to you (now that I think you believe that I am good) and to me told me something about him. if dubb refused to switch then our best chance of learning something would be to lynch him.

bottom line is that we couldn't go without a lynch tonight (although is going without a lynch in small games a viable strategy? something to discuss OOG). so if dubb wouldn't switch and kept his vote where it was we'd be deadlocked. i know i'm good so i had to wait for him to switch before i did to ensure that we got some lynch.

coffee time

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by Alan T

For the record, this vote came after the deadline so didnt count.

Thanks for clarifying, but I think we all know what DT did.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Fate was sealed? The guy was here for a long time and only had 1 vote lead on the next candidate. How in the world is that a sealed fate?

The three votes that lynched him were all placed before he started talking..those 3 votes killed him, and basically everything that happened afterwards meant nothing other then trust for tomorrow. As far as voting, he died this afternoon.

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

what do you mean? i wasn't going to switch to CR unless dubb did too. His willingness to listen to you (now that I think you believe that I am good) and to me told me something about him. if dubb refused to switch then our best chance of learning something would be to lynch him.

bottom line is that we couldn't go without a lynch tonight (although is going without a lynch in small games a viable strategy? something to discuss OOG). so if dubb wouldn't switch and kept his vote where it was we'd be deadlocked. i know i'm good so i had to wait for him to switch before i did to ensure that we got some lynch.

coffee time

I hope you are right about blade, otherwise, you have screwed us bad.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Yea Blade, whatever. Day 1 is not day 1 in a 10 man game. You don't throw your vote away. Whatever Blade, blah blah blah. At this point you have the shitiest voting record of all. Have fun with that tomorrow.

Oh, i will...oodles and oodles. Have fun being dead

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Alan T

For the record, this vote came after the deadline so didnt count.

no? the goddamm forum locked up on me. grrr

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

The three votes that lynched him were all placed before he started talking..those 3 votes killed him, and basically everything that happened afterwards meant nothing other then trust for tomorrow. As far as voting, he died this afternoon.

Interestingly, Chief Rum makes one post for the day (voting for DT) then leaves. dubb posts that he is 001, defends himself, and everyone is fine with lynching him.

What a screwed up game.

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

no? the goddamm forum locked up on me. grrr

Gonna have to try harder than that. Oh.. I.. pushed.. the.. submit.. button.. I.. swear.. arrrrrrggggghhhhh.

[Fouts]

dubb, if you are bad I'm going to hate you.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Interestingly, Chief Rum makes one post for the day (voting for DT) then leaves. dubb posts that he is 001, defends himself, and everyone is fine with lynching him.

What a screwed up game.

When were all of those posts by dubb? After he got 3 votes becuase he had posted twice in this thread all game.

Chief had posted more one day 1, sorry your buddy is dead..but he shot himself in the foot with his actions(or lack thereof), whether or not you accept it.

[Alan T]

Debates go back and forth about whether or not Dubb is actually one of you. Finally at the very end with accusations flying British Intelligence makes the decision to arrest Dubb.

After waiting nearly an hour, you get a call stating that Dubb was indeed not a henchman. You have taken another agent out of the field.

Dubb was Agent 001

Night deadline is 9:00Am EST Wednesday