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Old 10-12-2009, 10:13 PM   #251
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:13 PM   #252
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:15 PM   #253
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Wow... great move Danny... amazing play
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:15 PM   #254
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Geez EF, when my eyes first crossed that path there I thought we found three traitors today!
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:15 PM   #255
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That is such BS. Himmler offically pisses me off.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:15 PM   #256
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Well, that was a bold move. Good intentioned, it seems, but it kind of ruins the vote analysis.

Is that your only time you can do that Danny?
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:16 PM   #257
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What a terrible play!
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:17 PM   #258
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And what you did wasn't suspicious at all?

What I did was no more suspicious than what Danny or JAG did. I voted for someone who made a suspicious vote.

Unfortunately, you were apparently a loyal Nazi, so it wasn't a good move for the Party.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:17 PM   #259
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Wow... great move Danny... amazing play

I am sorry you died, but we lost a vanilla Nazi and I feel really good about DT and I am cleared now, so I am content with the move.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:18 PM   #260
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I am sorry you died, but we lost a vanilla Nazi and I feel really good about DT and I am cleared now, so I am content with the move.

Give me your reason for being okay with DT right now, plz
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:20 PM   #261
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Give me your reason for being okay with DT right now, plz

This "right now" is not meant to be a snooty "Right Now, bitch" but a "currently"
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:20 PM   #262
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I feel good about the way DT responded to the events, honestly. He's not fully cleared but we can look elsewhere for now.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:21 PM   #263
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What a terrible play!

I understand you being upset, but I still think it's a solid play. I went with my read. It was wrong, but I felt confident that LSG was at best a vanilla nazi. I also know I was going to be under heat soon and honestly, my duke ability did not allow me to save myself, so there was no point saving it for that.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:22 PM   #264
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damnit Himmler...that was dumb. shoulda just let me die
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:22 PM   #265
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Give me your reason for being okay with DT right now, plz

I have to believe a wolf at least try's and kills of CR there. And I read DT as a villager all the way. DT is generally pretty easy to read when he is a wolf and he gets votes piled up like that.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:23 PM   #266
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I'm not sure any of this really clears DT, though. We saw plenty of people happy to scramble to try to save him. I agree he certainly acted villagerish, but then again he is a good player.

Why did you think you would be under heat soon?
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:24 PM   #267
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:24 PM   #268
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i mean...sure...thanks for keeping me alive...but it was pretty much a wash
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:24 PM   #269
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damnit Himmler...that was dumb. shoulda just let me die

Why? If you are a vanilla nazi as well then it's an even trade. And now I am cleared. And as I said, my duke could not have saved me from being lynched
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:24 PM   #270
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You remember that the next game when I get 15,000 Day One votes which I normally do. I don;t ever remember Danny coming my rescue.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:24 PM   #271
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That is such BS. Himmler offically pisses me off.

vell vell vell, only a traitor would say such a thing
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:24 PM   #272
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You remember that the next game when I get 15,000 Day One votes which I normally do. I don;t ever remember Danny coming my rescue.

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Old 10-12-2009, 10:25 PM   #273
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I'm not sure any of this really clears DT, though. We saw plenty of people happy to scramble to try to save him. I agree he certainly acted villagerish, but then again he is a good player.

Why did you think you would be under heat soon?

Not really though, two of those who scrambled were LSG and me, both cleared.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:25 PM   #274
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I have to believe a wolf at least try's and kills of CR there. And I read DT as a villager all the way. DT is generally pretty easy to read when he is a wolf and he gets votes piled up like that.

ouch. guess i'll have to try harder to vary my play when i'm wolfy
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:25 PM   #275
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Suckage. I can't blame Danny though, as I have gone on my gut many times.

Where we go now, I have no idea.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:26 PM   #276
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ouch. guess i'll have to try harder to vary my play when i'm wolfy

You're actually a very good wolf in general DT, but sometimes towards lynching, especially if it appears you are a given to go, your frustration comes out.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:26 PM   #277
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I have to believe a wolf at least try's and kills of CR there. And I read DT as a villager all the way. DT is generally pretty easy to read when he is a wolf and he gets votes piled up like that.

Ah, yeah, when it was close to being tied. That's a good point. He may have been hoping for some more votes on CR, but you're right, that would have been tempting for a wolf.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:27 PM   #278
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After the confusing day everyone tries to get some sleep and make sense of what has occurred. Are there more traitors in our midst? Are there traitors inside the Nazi party? Is gthere a power struggle beginning?

Before you can know you find the body of hoopsguy. He lies motionless and was killed with a surgically placed slash to the throat.

Searching his belongings you find nothing more than his draft card and the medals which he has won fighting fr the cause.

He was a loyal Nazi.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:27 PM   #279
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Ah, yeah, when it was close to being tied. That's a good point. He may have been hoping for some more votes on CR, but you're right, that would have been tempting for a wolf.

Temping for a wolf and not even damning as a villager. It's easily explained as self defense.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:28 PM   #280
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The fact that Danny can't use his ability to save himself makes me ok with the move.

I wouldn't be so quick to clear DT, but I have him elevated for sure, I would imagine as a conspiritor he would have tied it up with him and CR, unless CR is also a conspiritor.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:28 PM   #281
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Wow. Totally unable to read anything from that kill.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:28 PM   #282
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Sucks, hoops - sorrys.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:28 PM   #283
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Looks like hoops doesn't get to see what his new schedule will be like. Sensible kill, I guess, and at least he wasn't a valuable role.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:30 PM   #284
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Ouch, hoops, we hardly knew ya.

I don't get about the duke/lynch thing. Were you expecting to be lynched, Danny?
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:30 PM   #285
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:31 PM   #286
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:33 PM   #287
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Night Results:

After the confusing day everyone tries to get some sleep and make sense of what has occurred. Are there more traitors in our midst? Are there traitors inside the Nazi party? Is gthere a power struggle beginning?

Before you can know you find the body of hoopsguy. He lies motionless and was killed with a surgically placed slash to the throat.

Searching his belongings you find nothing more than his draft card and the medals which he has won fighting fr the cause.

He was a loyal Nazi.

Crap.

I was hoping to play some with hoops. Last game he and I were in together, he died way too early.

Of course, I was the wolf that suggested killing him in that game, but that's beside the point...

I guess we have to expect that, without much to go on, wolves will still target the best players early.

Will it be a tactical error, though? Hoops himself noted he would not be so available for this one because of his work schedule.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:33 PM   #288
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Ouch, hoops, we hardly knew ya.

I don't get about the duke/lynch thing. Were you expecting to be lynched, Danny?

Honestly, I am sure I would have been under heat at some point, probably within a couple days. I took my shot on someone I felt confident did not have a role. It also provides valuable info as well. We know two of the three late votes for CR came from villagers.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:33 PM   #289
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Sheesh, welcome back Hoops. And to think I didn't vote for you when I had the chance!

As for Danny's play, it at least clears one of us immediately and I never really fault somebody for a gut play since I do it a lot.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:34 PM   #290
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Wow, DT is Albert Speer!
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:35 PM   #291
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FWIW, my duke ability does not save anyone, both players were supposed to die. I pointed this out to EF and since has been fixed. I didn't want to say anything until I was sure. We do now have a good voting record, but lose someone I felt highly likely was good.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:35 PM   #292
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Will it be a tactical error, though? Hoops himself noted he would not be so available for this one because of his work schedule.

Good point, but it still sucks. Basically, if you're a great player, you don't get to play. Exactly the reason I make it so far mot games.

I hope stuff like this don't make the better players not want to play.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:35 PM   #293
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That sucks for hoops. I think he's been the N1 kill the last couple games he played.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:35 PM   #294
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Day results ammended. Nothing changed except the correct number of kills.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:36 PM   #295
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Honestly, I am sure I would have been under heat at some point, probably within a couple days. I took my shot on someone I felt confident did not have a role. It also provides valuable info as well. We know two of the three late votes for CR came from villagers.

Yes, but I am a loyal Nazi, so you just learned that you and LSG were misguided. GE, however, is not cleared...
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:36 PM   #296
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I don't get about the duke/lynch thing. Were you expecting to be lynched, Danny?

The more I think about it I like it.

DT was basically throwing in the white towel, so obviously not a conspitior. Danny can't take the ability to the grave and can't save himself so at least it removes him from the vote tomorow and elevates DT. LSG said she wasn't rolled, so at best he making an even swap from a role POV, while giving us a COT of 2.

So eliminating 2 people from the vote tomorrow helps us.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:36 PM   #297
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oops...i'm dead now i guess
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:37 PM   #298
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Yes, but I am a loyal Nazi, so you just learned that you and LSG were misguided. GE, however, is not cleared...

Honestly, he was the other player I debated, but I had no idea the likelihood he had a role. LSG I felt good at the least did not have a role.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:37 PM   #299
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Uh, so what exactly happened?
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