Werewolf CLX - Atlantic City - GAME OVER

[Narcizo]

I'm interesting in hearing who the Cookie Ladies were sent to. My read is that they block the night action of whoever they were sent to (there was something similar in the Rome game). Given the lack of a night kill then that's another possibility to go along with the "to scared to kill a mob member" hypothesis to explain the lack of night kill. Could just be that a villager got Creaky and didn't want to use him.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Could just be that a villager got Creaky and didn't want to use him.

Which, incidentally, is a bad play for the village. Any kill not directed by the wolves is a good kill for the village. (On average).

[murrayyyyy]

vote Mau

For now...(probably change later) I'm like Path and find it convenient that chief and JAG both voted for bullet and and Chief just happened to scan JAG and clears him, (if he's telling the truth). I got to look more into how their votes went down the stretch but don't have time right now.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by path12

Dunno. It's a half clear at most for me.

Typically in the case of the potentially suspect seer-clearance you presume cleared scanee but not cleared scanner. And has been pointed out it paints a target on JAG's back if he is mob, so it makes me feel pretty positive to him. Doesn't give me much trust of Chief though.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Why not Bullet voters?

These too!

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

vote Mau
.

Awe wtf..

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

I find it moderately odd Danny didn't switch his vote last night, when it moved away from me. He usually gets into the mix.

Yeah depends if he was around or not. If he was then it suggests a possible Danny-DT connection.

[Zinto]

Sorry everyone that I was not around yesterday but it was a stressful day. I will be around today for sure though.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Yeah depends if he was around or not. If he was then it suggests a possible Danny-DT connection.

He was posting until at least 8:40 last night, after voting me about a half hour prior.

So he was around at least close to the deadline.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I'm interesting in hearing who the Cookie Ladies were sent to. My read is that they block the night action of whoever they were sent to (there was something similar in the Rome game). Given the lack of a night kill then that's another possibility to go along with the "to scared to kill a mob member" hypothesis to explain the lack of night kill. Could just be that a villager got Creaky and didn't want to use him.

Those are also reasonable possibilities as to what happened.

[Narcizo]

Don't really like voting before all the facts are out there as to what happened last night but what can you do?

Vote mau

The only vote I can piggy-back onto at the moment.

[JAG]

Let's throw DV in there as one of the uncleared that voted me. He's also tough to read for me in general.

Vote DV

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Don't really like voting before all the facts are out there as to what happened last night but what can you do?

Vote mau

The only vote I can piggy-back onto at the moment.

I think there are still a few people who haven't showed up today, so that may be why.

[mauchow]

unvote murrayyy
Vote bv

I think narcizo is being illogical w the vote on me.. then murrayyu says he'll probably change from me... so why not just vote who you wanna vote for?

I'm siding w jag as he's cleared but am game for dv or murrayyy.. definitely not game for me being lynched.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Don't really like voting before all the facts are out there as to what happened last night but what can you do?

Vote mau

The only vote I can piggy-back onto at the moment.

The ONLY?

Not sure about that. You suggested to me why not bullet voters and then go w outlier in me?

[mauchow]

If I'm a wolf I'd be just sitting back letting logic take over as I don't believe at the end od the day I would have the votes.. I just want my name off the list NOW.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

vote Mau

For now...(probably change later) I'm like Path and find it convenient that chief and JAG both voted for bullet and and Chief just happened to scan JAG and clears him, (if he's telling the truth). I got to look more into how their votes went down the stretch but don't have time right now.

I think you're throwing our some BS suspicion here. I was a very logical scan for Chief as I was someone who got a good chunk of votes D1 and Chief is a pretty suspicious guy who wanted to be able to trust all the crap I'll post this game (or else he didn't trust the stuff he disagreed with me about D0 and thought I was a good wolf possibility). He also scanned a guy who voted for the dead villager.

[Autumn]

Day 2 Voting

1 Mauchow ------- murrayyyyy (253)
2 Darth Vilus ----- JAG (262), mauchow (264)

[JAG]

I'll put him back in the mix:

Unvote DV
Vote murrayyyyy

[Autumn]

I'm heading to a meeting and then dinner then the kids' bedtime, so I'll be scarce for a few hours.

[mauchow]

Then ill just sit still for now..since you're going opposite of me it seems.. lol

[Narcizo]

Missed you're vote on murra5y mau. :shurg: Want to add my vote to someone elses so there's more chance of it being relevant. And you're not really a bad vote.

[murrayyyyy]

Originally Posted by JAG

I think you're throwing our some BS suspicion here. I was a very logical scan for Chief as I was someone who got a good chunk of votes D1 and Chief is a pretty suspicious guy who wanted to be able to trust all the crap I'll post this game (or else he didn't trust the stuff he disagreed with me about D0 and thought I was a good wolf possibility). He also scanned a guy who voted for the dead villager.

I didn't throw it out, Path did. I just said that I could see it happening. We had a fake seer reveal in the last game or the one before so it could happen. Would seem easy to fake something like this early not knowing who won a bet last night or who took actions on people.

If I felt that strongly about it I would have voted for Chief not Mau. (and I'm still changing my vote later!)

[Coffee Warlord]

Throwing Danny in here for the time being.

Vote Danny

[path12]

Whenever someone protests a lot about getting a vote I like to give them another.

VOTE MAUCHOW

Reserve the right to change.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

I didn't throw it out, Path did. I just said that I could see it happening. We had a fake seer reveal in the last game or the one before so it could happen. Would seem easy to fake something like this early not knowing who won a bet last night or who took actions on people.

If I felt that strongly about it I would have voted for Chief not Mau. (and I'm still changing my vote later!)

For what it's worth, I didn't care for path's reasoning either. I think it would be useful for the wolves to buy the seer, but moreso to get the night kill of course. You expanded on his reasoning with your comments and you also voted for me, which puts you a bit worse than him to me.

[murrayyyyy]

Originally Posted by JAG

For what it's worth, I didn't care for path's reasoning either. I think it would be useful for the wolves to buy the seer, but moreso to get the night kill of course. You expanded on his reasoning with your comments and you also voted for me, which puts you a bit worse than him to me.

I can live with that part... You usually aren't this offensive with me which just struck me as weird... like I said if I thought it was that true I would have voted Chief not you today so we got a few hours to see if I really think it. (Not voting either of you guys today because I tend to trust Chief a lot. I just don't want to be the guy who dismisses any theory that causes the village to lose because I'm sick of losing.)

[JAG]

If it came out as offensive, then I apologize for that as it wasn't meant to be (depending on which meaning of offensive you meant). It was more of me trying to say 'I strongly disagree' and not wanting to waste time on low percentage speculation.

[britrock88]

Checking in. Hello, folks!

[InBlue]

Originally Posted by britrock88

Checking in. Hello, folks!

Me, too. Hi guys.

[Chief Rum]

brit, InBlue, I don't suppose either of you can offer up anything about the Ladies being purchased or if you're a villager who purchased the nightkill and stashed it, are you? Narc was asking about that, and I think if those were villager bought, we could use that information.

If after all we receive no notice from the purchasers of those, I am going to presume those are mafia-bought. While I think this game has gotten off to a slow start post-wise, I would guess that those who bought the services are fully invested in the game and will have checked in by now.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Missed you're vote on murra5y mau. :shurg: Want to add my vote to someone elses so there's more chance of it being relevant. And you're not really a bad vote.

I'm not convinced that I'm a good vote for anybody today. Even if I was online at deadline I'm not going to create a tie. I would have voted for bullet most likely. Also, I'm someone that loves to mix shit up at deadline..so if I miss deadline.. I missed it unintentionally.

[Coffee Warlord]

I'm gonna be at my folks house for an hour or two after work (1 hour), and then I'm playing Mr Mom tonight - wife has some school event tonight. My availability is questionable this evening.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Throwing Danny in here for the time being.

Vote Danny

AND ANDRE THE GIANT ENTERS THE RING!!!!!!

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

I find it moderately odd Danny didn't switch his vote last night, when it moved away from me. He usually gets into the mix.

This is true, but is true regardless of what I am. I actually was not at my computer leading right up to deadline as I had something morei mportant to take care of.

[Zinto]

So I think there is a fairly good chance that Jag is a villager because of the fact that I do not believe there is a cunning wolf in the game from the rules. CR is up in the air but I think he needs to get a little bit of trust based on the fact he spent all his money on the investigator which I think would be an odd way for the mafia to spend their money.

[Danny]

I would definitely spend all my money on the seer as a mafia. That said, I would as a villager to, so I dont think it means much.

[Danny]

I am inclined to say Jag is clear though for now. I dont see a CR doing a double wolf thing if he was a wolf.

[InBlue]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

brit, InBlue, I don't suppose either of you can offer up anything about the Ladies being purchased or if you're a villager who purchased the nightkill and stashed it, are you? Narc was asking about that, and I think if those were villager bought, we could use that information.

I did not buy either of those.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Danny

This is true, but is true regardless of what I am. I actually was not at my computer leading right up to deadline as I had something morei mportant to take care of.

Danny got laid.

[Autumn]

Day 2 Voting

2 Mauchow ------- murrayyyyy (253), path12 (275)
1 Darth Vilus ----- mauchow (264)
1 Murrayyyyy ----- JAG (269)
1 Danny ----------- Coffee Warlord (274)

[Autumn]

Don't forget to get your bids in, folks.

DAY TWO SERVICES FOR HIRE

Mick "Stones" McGee - Hired muscle for the guy who wants some protection
Donna Black Investigations - When you need somebody checked out
Cookie's Ladies - Send somebody a "friend" to entertain them through the night
Sandy Back Messenger Service - When you need to send a message fast
Casino2Casino Wire Transfer - When you want to send a buck to a friend
Eternity Investments - Put some money away for a rainy day
Freddie von Maur, Casino Manager - having a friend in the House pays off

BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
The Money Hole - money lending for the desperate gambler
Joe "Creaky" Reitzler - they say that Creaky will make a guy disappear for you
"Smiling Jane" Smith - her light fingers will dip in someone's wallet for you
Jameson Gundy, DA - a crooked DA can clean your record up like new

[Autumn]

I'm not going to send out revised money totals every single day for everyone, but if you ever are wondering how much money you have, feel free to PM me.

[murrayyyyy]

Originally Posted by JAG

If it came out as offensive, then I apologize for that as it wasn't meant to be (depending on which meaning of offensive you meant). It was more of me trying to say 'I strongly disagree' and not wanting to waste time on low percentage speculation.

Oh I didn't mead offensive like offending me, I mean like try to steer me to your side in a convo. Some people get all defensive so your reaction struck me as weird. Nothing else. Now time to catch up and see if anyone said something I don't like.

Yeah Mau, I was just placing a vote to get things started. I don't remember you doing much of anything so far that gave a wolfy vibe.

[murrayyyyy]

Question because now I'm confused. Rules say there are two mafia teams and Narc said in 223 there was one team? I've searched and don't see a post so I assume there are 4-6 wolves in the game right now.

Am I correct? I just want to make sure I have the right number of wolf teams there are out there.

[JAG]

Not one team. He's saying 13:3 because that's the presumed starting ratio for each mafia team (the 13 includes the enemy mafia team, the mafia need to get to a 1:1 ratio with the remaining players which includes villagers + the other mafia team).

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Day 2 Voting

2 Mauchow ------- murrayyyyy (253), path12 (275)
1 Darth Vilus ----- mauchow (264)
1 Murrayyyyy ----- JAG (269)
1 Danny ----------- Coffee Warlord (274)

Was Narc's vote for mau in 261 missed or not counted for some other reason?

[Darth Vilus]

Today is hectic, I won't be on much

vote mauchow

[Darth Vilus]

I boulder have more time tomorrow

[murrayyyyy]

I think he missed it, in 268 Autumn didn't have it.