2009 FOFC Alternate Rules Football; Season Underway! - Page 6

Danny · 08-28-2009, 08:22 PM

I like the Cotchery pick.

Celeval · 08-28-2009, 08:34 PM

Cotchery would probably have been mine at 10.7, good pick.

Masked · 08-28-2009, 08:39 PM

Eventually, I had to do something right

rafini · 08-28-2009, 09:22 PM

Rafini Express selects:

Pick 10.04 - QB, Brett Favre, Minnesota

sterlingice · 08-28-2009, 10:31 PM

Yahoo and thread updated thru 10.4

Remember, we're on weekend hours now. So, rather than the usual 9/10am in the morning, you get a full six hours. Since Masked picked last at 8:20pm- that would give rafini until 12:20 tomorrow afternoon to pick (6 full hours of "on clock" time). Remember to pass along lists if need be. I'll be in and out the next couple of days but I'll try to keep things as updated as possible.

EDIT: rafini picked at 9:22 (and I hadn't flipped the page so I didn't notice this) so the next pick is due at 1:22pm tomorrow. And if molson picks sometime overnight or tomorrow morning before 8, for instance, then the clock won't start for the next person until 2pm.

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Celeval · 08-28-2009, 10:33 PM

I'll check in early morning, but will be out from about 7am - noon.

molson · 08-28-2009, 11:34 PM

Enchanted Goats:

10.05: Laveranues Coles, WR, CIN

Danny · 08-29-2009, 12:19 AM

10.6 QB Joe Flacco, BAL

I'm the last team to take the QB, the list I made in round 6 was almost empty, so needed to grab Flacco now from the "lower tier" list. Flacco wasn't at the top of that list (T. Edwards was), but he was above a couple others who were taken.

Celeval · 08-29-2009, 07:40 AM

From the what-is-he-still-doing-here department:

10.7 RB Willie Parker, PIT

sterlingice · 08-29-2009, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celeval

From the what-is-he-still-doing-here department:

10.7 RB Willie Parker, PIT

He was easily one of the guys on my short list last time around, but his grasp on the job is tenuous and he does seem to always get hurt. Still, it's not like there are better options on the board at the moment.

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sterlingice · 08-29-2009, 08:01 AM

Yahoo and thread updated thru 10.07

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sterlingice · 08-29-2009, 08:01 AM

Would anyone be horribly opposed to turning the clock off over the weekend? So far, we have had only 1 missed pick the entire draft and I'd kindof like to keep it that way, if we can. At the rate we are going, we should easily be done by the end of next week.

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Qwikshot · 08-29-2009, 08:57 AM

Fine, but I'm still making my pick

sterlingice · 08-29-2009, 09:04 AM

No, you can't!

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Qwikshot · 08-29-2009, 09:07 AM

10.8 RB Donald Brown, INDY

k0ruptr · 08-29-2009, 09:45 AM

I'm hoping and more then open to turning the clock off for the weekend, please can we?

Butter · 08-29-2009, 09:47 AM

k0ruptr, I'm here and will make my pick shortly... so don't go to sleep yet!

k0ruptr · 08-29-2009, 09:50 AM

oh damn, ok i was just about to, cuz im drunk and just got back from da bar...

Butter · 08-29-2009, 10:02 AM

Pick 10.9 - TE Visanthe Shiancoe, MIN

k0ruptr · 08-29-2009, 10:03 AM

OH man, you stole 1 of my picks...

k0ruptr · 08-29-2009, 10:10 AM

10.10 - RB Thomas Jones NYJ
11.1 - QB Jason Campbell WAS

k0ruptr · 08-29-2009, 10:10 AM

Dola, Good nite...

sterlingice · 08-29-2009, 10:11 AM

He (Shian-- whatever, him) and Parker and one as of yet unpicked WR were the three on my list I didn't go with at the last turn. That said, I'm not quite sold on him, but I guess what do you want from the, what, 15th TE off the board?

I really almost bit on him because everywhere you go, you see every expert loves him as a sleeper because Brett Favre "loves TEs". But I started looking through pro football reference yesterday and he had a lot of years with 300-500yd + 5 or less TD TEs so I went with a pair of WRs that I thought could get 1000 yds instead

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Butter · 08-29-2009, 10:22 AM

Pick 11.2 - QB Jake Delhomme, CAR

Qwikshot · 08-29-2009, 10:27 AM

Damn, I was hoping the Vikings TE would be on the backswing...hurm...now I gotta think.

Butter · 08-29-2009, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice

He (Shian-- whatever, him) and Parker and one as of yet unpicked WR were the three on my list I didn't go with at the last turn. That said, I'm not quite sold on him, but I guess what do you want from the, what, 15th TE off the board?

I really almost bit on him because everywhere you go, you see every expert loves him as a sleeper because Brett Favre "loves TEs". But I started looking through pro football reference yesterday and he had a lot of years with 300-500yd + 5 or less TD TEs so I went with a pair of WRs that I thought could get 1000 yds instead

SI

Yeah, I figured since I already had Gonzalez hopefully I can live with some swings from my #2 TE, but hope for the best predictions on his upside to come true. We'll see, I guess.

Qwikshot · 08-29-2009, 10:51 AM

This is brutal....

Qwikshot · 08-29-2009, 11:02 AM

11.3 WR Lance Moore, NewOrleans

Qwikshot · 08-29-2009, 11:03 AM

Needed depth at receiver...our bench spots are sparse and I feel I've drafted too many runningbacks.

Qwikshot · 08-29-2009, 11:04 AM

dola, not that I'm complaining, I like this complexity.

sterlingice · 08-29-2009, 11:04 AM

And there goes the other WR I was thinking about last round. I was secretly hoping he'd make it back down to me

To me, it was another one of those coin flips between him and Kevin Walter.

Now I know at the end of the year, these "coin flips" won't look like it but to me, they look similar in a risk * reward formula. For instance, Lance Moore could stay injured all year and only put up 500 yards and 3 TDs while defenses blanket Johnson so Walter gets 1200 yards and 10 TDs. Or Moore could come back healthy, Colston go down week 2, and he goes for that 1200/10 while Matt Schaub gets hurt in Houston and Walter gets 500/3.

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sterlingice · 08-29-2009, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwikshot

Needed depth at receiver...our bench spots are sparse and I feel I've drafted too many runningbacks.

I found out a couple of years ago that I like to go with a shorter bench both in this and baseball leagues. In football, it's kindof frustrating- I wish you could have a bench spot just designated as "bye week bencher", for instance, that can only be used for players on their bye week (and it disappears in the second half). That way, you aren't penalized for the silly bye system but it doesn't really drain the pool that much more. Plus, you only would have one so you still have to pay attention to bye weeks a little while drafting.

But I like the pool to be just deep enough that there are "bye week replacement" level players in it as well as others you can take a chance on. If you think you're really solid at other positions, you can sit on a chance RB or two. For instance, this year I think my WR corps are pretty solid so I think I'll lean towards having an extra RB. Other years, it's the opposite for my team.

However, it keeps people from loading up their benches with players just to keep other teams from having them. Yes, there should be some roster strategy in play but there just shouldn't be this great hoarding of players who never play just to keep them from other teams. Where's the fun in that?

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sterlingice · 08-29-2009, 11:20 AM

Draft and thread updated thru 11.3

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flere-imsaho · 08-29-2009, 12:16 PM

So, I spent last night in the ER. Nothing life-threatening, it would appear, but I'm going to be recuperating all weekend at least, so my availability may be limited.

sterlingice · 08-29-2009, 12:38 PM

Well, as stated above- the clock's off. Take some time and recover. If you get a chance, make a pick. Heck, it may not even get to your turn.

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Celeval · 08-29-2009, 01:10 PM

11.4 DST New York Giants

Celeval · 08-29-2009, 01:10 PM

Flere, get well soon, man. Take it easy.

Danny · 08-29-2009, 02:02 PM

11.5 QB Shaun Hill, SF

molson · 08-29-2009, 03:29 PM

Enchanted Goats:

11.6 QB JaMarcus Russell, OAK

molson · 08-29-2009, 03:32 PM

I should add....

JeMarcus Russell looking good in pre-season.

Danny · 08-29-2009, 07:16 PM

Raiders not so much

rafini · 08-30-2009, 11:01 AM

Rafini Express selects:

Pick 11.07 - WR, Donald Driver, Green Bay

sterlingice · 08-30-2009, 11:01 AM

Yahoo and thread updated thru 11.7

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sterlingice · 08-30-2009, 11:04 AM

4 Masked - Eleven Masked Men
8 flere-imsaho - Fiddly Cartoonists
5 sterlingice - Richmond Rhinocerii

due up then back the other direction

I will be in and out most of the day so there might be a little delay with mine. I'm going to try to come up with a list.

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sterlingice · 08-30-2009, 12:26 PM

I have a list from flere, but, again, I'm going to be in and out most of the day. So, if Masked gets a chance to pick, I can make the next 4 picks. However, I'm not sure when that will be. Plus, I still don't know who my two picks are going to be- particularly since flere's top pick was also the only guy I was certain about on my list and he'll go to him at 11.9 if Masked doesn't pick him.

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Masked · 08-30-2009, 12:47 PM

11.8 Tennessee, DEF

sterlingice · 08-30-2009, 01:04 PM

Well, never mind then- I haven't gotten out the door yet, so here are the next 4 picks.

11.09 RB Cedric Benson, CIN
11.10 RB Beanie Wells, ARI
12.01 RB Felix Jones, DAL
12.02 TE Brent Celek, PHI

I wanted the "steady" Benson for a backup RB. Yeah, he sucks but he's pretty much guaranteed a starting job for now. Instead, I went with two of about 10 guys with a lot of upside.

This is what really frustrates me with the usual fantasy drafts and why this league exists- these guys (Wells, Jones, etc) are usually 4th-6th round guys in a standard league. You don't see all of the utility infielders getting drafted in fantasy baseball before #2 SPs. You don't see backup GKs picked in hockey before 2nd line guys. So why in the world is it ok for the most popular system (football) to have backup RBs getting drafted before everyone has starting QBs and maybe 10-15 WRs are off the board. Instead, most teams now have their starters locked up and can take some chances- weighing potential vs known production/risk of dropoff (an aging Driver, known mediocrity like Deion Branch, mostly dregs at TE, the best Ks and DEFs- tho worth less points, and a lot of QB question marks).
/end rant

Anyways, Yahoo and thread updated thru 12.02

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Masked · 08-30-2009, 01:11 PM

12.03 WR Steve Breaston, ARI

Qwikshot · 08-31-2009, 07:11 AM

sterlingice · 08-31-2009, 08:13 AM

Clock is back on and rafini has until 10am to pick

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08-28-2009, 10:31 PM	#255
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Yahoo and thread updated thru 10.4 Remember, we're on weekend hours now. So, rather than the usual 9/10am in the morning, you get a full six hours. Since Masked picked last at 8:20pm- that would give rafini until 12:20 tomorrow afternoon to pick (6 full hours of "on clock" time). Remember to pass along lists if need be. I'll be in and out the next couple of days but I'll try to keep things as updated as possible. EDIT: rafini picked at 9:22 (and I hadn't flipped the page so I didn't notice this) so the next pick is due at 1:22pm tomorrow. And if molson picks sometime overnight or tomorrow morning before 8, for instance, then the clock won't start for the next person until 2pm. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 08-28-2009 at 10:33 PM.

08-29-2009, 08:01 AM	#261
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Yahoo and thread updated thru 10.07 SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

08-29-2009, 08:01 AM	#262
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Would anyone be horribly opposed to turning the clock off over the weekend? So far, we have had only 1 missed pick the entire draft and I'd kindof like to keep it that way, if we can. At the rate we are going, we should easily be done by the end of next week. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

08-29-2009, 08:57 AM	#263
Qwikshot Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ...down the gravity well	Fine, but I'm still making my pick __________________ "General Woundwort's body was never found. It could be that he still lives his fierce life somewhere else, but from that day on, mother rabbits would tell their kittens that if they did not do as they were told, the General would get them. Such was Woundwort's monument, and perhaps it would not have displeased him." Watership Down, Richard Adams

08-29-2009, 09:04 AM	#264
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	No, you can't! SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

08-28-2009, 08:22 PM	#251
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I like the Cotchery pick.

08-28-2009, 08:34 PM	#252
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	Cotchery would probably have been mine at 10.7, good pick.

08-28-2009, 08:39 PM	#253
Masked College Starter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bay Area	Eventually, I had to do something right

08-28-2009, 09:22 PM	#254
rafini High School JV Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Virginia Beach	Rafini Express selects: Pick 10.04 - QB, Brett Favre, Minnesota

08-28-2009, 10:33 PM	#256
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	I'll check in early morning, but will be out from about 7am - noon.

08-28-2009, 11:34 PM	#257
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Enchanted Goats: 10.05: Laveranues Coles, WR, CIN

08-29-2009, 12:19 AM	#258
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	10.6 QB Joe Flacco, BAL I'm the last team to take the QB, the list I made in round 6 was almost empty, so needed to grab Flacco now from the "lower tier" list. Flacco wasn't at the top of that list (T. Edwards was), but he was above a couple others who were taken.

08-29-2009, 07:40 AM	#259
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	From the what-is-he-still-doing-here department: 10.7 RB Willie Parker, PIT

08-29-2009, 09:07 AM	#265
Qwikshot Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ...down the gravity well	10.8 RB Donald Brown, INDY __________________ "General Woundwort's body was never found. It could be that he still lives his fierce life somewhere else, but from that day on, mother rabbits would tell their kittens that if they did not do as they were told, the General would get them. Such was Woundwort's monument, and perhaps it would not have displeased him." Watership Down, Richard Adams

08-29-2009, 09:45 AM	#266
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	I'm hoping and more then open to turning the clock off for the weekend, please can we?

08-29-2009, 09:47 AM	#267
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	k0ruptr, I'm here and will make my pick shortly... so don't go to sleep yet! __________________ My listening habits

08-29-2009, 09:50 AM	#268
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	oh damn, ok i was just about to, cuz im drunk and just got back from da bar...

08-29-2009, 10:02 AM	#269
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Pick 10.9 - TE Visanthe Shiancoe, MIN __________________ My listening habits

08-29-2009, 10:03 AM	#270
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	OH man, you stole 1 of my picks...

08-29-2009, 10:10 AM	#271
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	10.10 - RB Thomas Jones NYJ 11.1 - QB Jason Campbell WAS

08-29-2009, 10:10 AM	#272
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	Dola, Good nite...

08-29-2009, 10:11 AM	#273
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	He (Shian-- whatever, him) and Parker and one as of yet unpicked WR were the three on my list I didn't go with at the last turn. That said, I'm not quite sold on him, but I guess what do you want from the, what, 15th TE off the board? I really almost bit on him because everywhere you go, you see every expert loves him as a sleeper because Brett Favre "loves TEs". But I started looking through pro football reference yesterday and he had a lot of years with 300-500yd + 5 or less TD TEs so I went with a pair of WRs that I thought could get 1000 yds instead SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

08-29-2009, 10:22 AM	#274
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Pick 11.2 - QB Jake Delhomme, CAR __________________ My listening habits

08-29-2009, 10:27 AM	#275
Qwikshot Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ...down the gravity well	Damn, I was hoping the Vikings TE would be on the backswing...hurm...now I gotta think. __________________ "General Woundwort's body was never found. It could be that he still lives his fierce life somewhere else, but from that day on, mother rabbits would tell their kittens that if they did not do as they were told, the General would get them. Such was Woundwort's monument, and perhaps it would not have displeased him." Watership Down, Richard Adams

08-29-2009, 10:51 AM	#277
Qwikshot Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ...down the gravity well	This is brutal.... __________________ "General Woundwort's body was never found. It could be that he still lives his fierce life somewhere else, but from that day on, mother rabbits would tell their kittens that if they did not do as they were told, the General would get them. Such was Woundwort's monument, and perhaps it would not have displeased him." Watership Down, Richard Adams

08-29-2009, 11:02 AM	#278
Qwikshot Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ...down the gravity well	11.3 WR Lance Moore, NewOrleans __________________ "General Woundwort's body was never found. It could be that he still lives his fierce life somewhere else, but from that day on, mother rabbits would tell their kittens that if they did not do as they were told, the General would get them. Such was Woundwort's monument, and perhaps it would not have displeased him." Watership Down, Richard Adams

08-29-2009, 11:03 AM	#279
Qwikshot Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ...down the gravity well	Needed depth at receiver...our bench spots are sparse and I feel I've drafted too many runningbacks. __________________ "General Woundwort's body was never found. It could be that he still lives his fierce life somewhere else, but from that day on, mother rabbits would tell their kittens that if they did not do as they were told, the General would get them. Such was Woundwort's monument, and perhaps it would not have displeased him." Watership Down, Richard Adams

08-29-2009, 11:04 AM	#280
Qwikshot Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ...down the gravity well	dola, not that I'm complaining, I like this complexity. __________________ "General Woundwort's body was never found. It could be that he still lives his fierce life somewhere else, but from that day on, mother rabbits would tell their kittens that if they did not do as they were told, the General would get them. Such was Woundwort's monument, and perhaps it would not have displeased him." Watership Down, Richard Adams

08-29-2009, 11:04 AM	#281
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	And there goes the other WR I was thinking about last round. I was secretly hoping he'd make it back down to me To me, it was another one of those coin flips between him and Kevin Walter. Now I know at the end of the year, these "coin flips" won't look like it but to me, they look similar in a risk * reward formula. For instance, Lance Moore could stay injured all year and only put up 500 yards and 3 TDs while defenses blanket Johnson so Walter gets 1200 yards and 10 TDs. Or Moore could come back healthy, Colston go down week 2, and he goes for that 1200/10 while Matt Schaub gets hurt in Houston and Walter gets 500/3. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 08-29-2009 at 11:13 AM.

08-29-2009, 11:20 AM	#283
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Draft and thread updated thru 11.3 SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

08-29-2009, 12:16 PM	#284
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	So, I spent last night in the ER. Nothing life-threatening, it would appear, but I'm going to be recuperating all weekend at least, so my availability may be limited.

08-29-2009, 12:38 PM	#285
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Well, as stated above- the clock's off. Take some time and recover. If you get a chance, make a pick. Heck, it may not even get to your turn. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

08-29-2009, 01:10 PM	#286
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	11.4 DST New York Giants

08-29-2009, 01:10 PM	#287
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	Flere, get well soon, man. Take it easy.

08-29-2009, 02:02 PM	#288
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	11.5 QB Shaun Hill, SF