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Old 03-02-2022, 12:41 PM   #251
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Old 03-02-2022, 12:45 PM   #252
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He handled it like, you know, someone who has spent a long time actually working in foreign affairs, and at the very least, had a working understanding of things, and the multiple influences on those decision and at least some grasp of his own opinions?

I mean...even that's a fairly low bar for a guy who was the UN Ambassador. But take away the 'working' part above and it's a pretty low bar for an average person, who suddenly got a job (any job) and actually gave a shit.
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Old 03-02-2022, 01:34 PM   #253
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Old 03-02-2022, 02:07 PM   #254
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This is depressing.

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Old 03-02-2022, 02:28 PM   #255
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The UN vote condemning the invasion went 141-5 (Russia, Belarus, North Korea, Syria, Eritrea) with 35 intentional abstentions (China, India most notably) and 12 that didn't vote (surprisingly including Venezuela).

Looking at the list, it's a remarkable show of unity. I don't know if that sort of thing matters to Putin.

With India, there's the persistent narrative on Twitter that middle eastern and Asian students (and Pakistan is expressing the same concern) are not being protected by Ukraine. Coinciding with the Russian claim that they are being used as human shields. Still, an abstention rather than a no vote, and, like China, they are calling for a political solution. Hopefully, there's some way to show the world that those claims are only Russian propaganda.

Unfortunately, none of this helps the Ukrainians today.
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Old 03-02-2022, 02:29 PM   #256
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WTF is Eritrea? Sounds like a made up land in a childrens book

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Old 03-02-2022, 02:33 PM   #257
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WTF is Eritrea? Sounds like a made up land in a childrens book

It's in Africa so you don't have to worry about it.
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Old 03-02-2022, 02:35 PM   #258
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It's in Africa so you don't have to worry about it.

Yeah. I am now down the Wiki rabbit hole on it.
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Old 03-02-2022, 02:41 PM   #259
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India is a weird situation. Technically, they've been in violation of CAATSA for years. Trump threatened them a few times but ultimately waivered. Biden has mostly been quiet about it.
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Old 03-02-2022, 02:47 PM   #260
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The UN vote condemning the invasion went 141-5 (Russia, Belarus, North Korea, Syria, Eritrea) with 35 intentional abstentions (China, India most notably) and 12 that didn't vote (surprisingly including Venezuela).

Looking at the list, it's a remarkable show of unity. I don't know if that sort of thing matters to Putin.

With India, there's the persistent narrative on Twitter that middle eastern and Asian students (and Pakistan is expressing the same concern) are not being protected by Ukraine. Coinciding with the Russian claim that they are being used as human shields. Still, an abstention rather than a no vote, and, like China, they are calling for a political solution. Hopefully, there's some way to show the world that those claims are only Russian propaganda.

Unfortunately, none of this helps the Ukrainians today.


India receives a lot of military weapons from Russia, has received Russian support for their claims to Kashmir, and they fear China. So they feel anything that pushes Russia closer to China is bad for their interests in the long run.
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Old 03-02-2022, 02:48 PM   #261
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It's in Africa so you don't have to worry about it.

Africa has more than its share of awful situations, but Eritrea could easily be the worst.

Eritrea - United States Department of State

I've read it compared to North Korea in terms of human rights and isolation many times.
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Old 03-02-2022, 02:49 PM   #262
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I was going to ask "Eritrea? Why? I get the other four but Eritrea seems kinda random".

Google gave me this article from a few years ago.

Russia-Eritrea Relations Grow with Planned Logistics Center

I guess Russia is doing in Eritrea what China is doing in basically the entire rest of the continent.
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Old 03-02-2022, 03:35 PM   #263
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With India, there's the persistent narrative on Twitter that middle eastern and Asian students (and Pakistan is expressing the same concern) are not being protected by Ukraine. Coinciding with the Russian claim that they are being used as human shields. Still, an abstention rather than a no vote, and, like China, they are calling for a political solution. Hopefully, there's some way to show the world that those claims are only Russian propaganda. .

FWIW, specifically for India, I had posted this earlier.

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Interesting discussions going on in the r/India sub. Majority of commentators favor India's neutrality. Russia has supported India politically and militarily so in a way I get it. But lots of commentary on how Ukraine/Europe are racist and therefore, they shouldn't get India's support. I can see that if UK was getting invaded but don't think that should apply to Ukraine. Admittedly, India is in a difficult situation so being neutral is probably best position for them.
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Old 03-02-2022, 03:41 PM   #264
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Old 03-02-2022, 03:46 PM   #265
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WTF is Eritrea? Sounds like a made up land in a childrens book

If you ever had Ethiopian food when you were in Seattle, it may have actually been Eritrean.

(We have an "Ethiopian" restaurant in Boise run by a refugee from Eritrea, and he makes Eritrean food. Which is almost the same thing)
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Old 03-02-2022, 03:47 PM   #266
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Zero desire to eat Ethiopian food.
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Old 03-02-2022, 03:47 PM   #267
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I love it. I may go tonight.

I've been to a bunch of Ethiopian restaurants in Seattle. I bet there's a lot of Eriteran refugees there. (And Ethiopian)

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Old 03-02-2022, 03:53 PM   #268
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Ethiopian food is great. You're missing out, Lathum.
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Old 03-02-2022, 03:53 PM   #269
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Speaking of that area in Africa, I learned about this the other day and it blew my mind: Bir Tawil - Wikipedia
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Old 03-02-2022, 03:55 PM   #270
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NYT is reporting that Russia has taken over Kherson.
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Old 03-02-2022, 04:02 PM   #271
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Another thumbs up for Ethiopian food. Surprised the hell out of me. It's terrific. But I love spicy food.
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Old 03-02-2022, 04:29 PM   #272
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I'll fourth the Ethiopian food recommendation.
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Old 03-02-2022, 04:48 PM   #273
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Can't eat spicy food, so I guess that's a no for me.
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Old 03-02-2022, 04:50 PM   #274
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They do usually have non-spicy "toppings" (that's probably not the right term).

It's basically just your choice of vegetables and meat on a spongy bread that is also the utensil to pick up the veggies and meat with.

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Old 03-02-2022, 04:54 PM   #275
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Looks disgusting. Like piles of dog vomit with spring mix
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Old 03-02-2022, 04:58 PM   #276
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It's just lentils, meat, and veggies.

I love Middle Eastern/Greek food a lot though too. Come to think of it, there isn't much food I don't like.
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Old 03-02-2022, 05:08 PM   #277
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There is a restaurant in Ann Arbor, the Blue Nile, that has the reputation for putting together an authentic and excellent Ethiopian dinner. I meant to try it, but somehow never did because every time I looked at the menu, I wasn't enthused. But maybe I'd love it. There was a time I'd've said the same about Unagi (sushi from eel) and now I look forward to it whenever we do a takeout night (still can't get myself to dine in a restaurant).
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Old 03-02-2022, 05:27 PM   #278
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Unfortunately my genetics work against me. I'm a super-taster, which sounds like it should be awesome, but it fucking sucks. Quite a lot of things taste extremely bitter to me, and if even a little is in something, that's all I can taste. For example, if something has a little bit of green pepper in it, all I can taste is green pepper and it makes me want to vomit.

I'll try anything once (have to in order to expand my range of foods). Never had the chance to try Ethiopian, but I would. I just wouldn't hold out hope that it would be my new favorite thing.
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Old 03-02-2022, 05:38 PM   #279
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Looks disgusting. Like piles of dog vomit with spring mix

Doesn't look any more disgusting than a fajita platter.
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Old 03-02-2022, 05:53 PM   #280
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I’ll try it but agree it doesn’t look that appetizing
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Old 03-02-2022, 06:26 PM   #281
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Doesn't look any more disgusting than a fajita platter.

yes it does

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Old 03-02-2022, 06:52 PM   #282
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I will try anything. I have still never had good Indian food.

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Old 03-02-2022, 06:57 PM   #283
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yes it does

Worse than Skyline Chili?
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Old 03-02-2022, 06:57 PM   #284
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Indian food is pretty good but only once every other week or so for us. My wife and I used to go to a buffet which was pretty decent but haven't been (obviously) for the past 2+ years.

Wish they had more vegetables dishes that aren't mushed up though. The buffet place had regular salad/lettuce off to the side and I'm pretty sure that's not authentic Indian.
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Old 03-02-2022, 07:09 PM   #285
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I'm going to drive up to your side of town Edward, and you take me to a good Indian place and help me order. I am convinced I just don't know where to go and what to get that is good.

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Old 03-02-2022, 07:10 PM   #286
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Worse than Skyline Chili?

All that cabin air must've ruined your sense of taste.
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Old 03-02-2022, 07:18 PM   #287
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I used to feel that Indian food was the exception to the "something excellent in every cuisine" rule. In my last desk job, we had an intern in our group who grew up in India. I mentioned this to him, asked if there was any place around our office that felt authentic to him. He mentioned a place very close to work, so we went for lunch and I asked what he felt they did well there. Apparently there is a cuisine I don't get at all. My wife has a couple of dishes she'll make that use Indian sauces and that's about the only thing she makes that I'd prefer not to eat.
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Old 03-02-2022, 07:34 PM   #288
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I'm going to drive up to your side of town Edward, and you take me to a good Indian place and help me order. I am convinced I just don't know where to go and what to get that is good.

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The key is to go to an Indian restaurant where you see many more Indians than non-Indians. If ever given a choice, don't order mild, not much taste.

Order medium which should be enough to make you sweat just ever so slightly. Never order high heat, you'll regret it.

The ones we go to at Cumming are below. There's probably another 5-7 near by that we haven't tried yet.

Bawarchi Biryanis » Menu
Inchin's Bamboo Garden Indo-Chinese & Pan Asian CuisineInchin's Bamboo Garden | Our Hallmark is Fresh Food
http://www.bukharaa.com/ (buffet, sentimental favorite, the first Indian restaurant when we moved here but there's now a ton of now)

Using Bawarchicumming as an example for me, wife & daughter

1) Butter Chicken or Chicken Curry
2) Garlic Naan appetizer (to dip in your curry)
3) Chicken Fried Rice (this is with chopped up tandoori chicken, daughter's favorite)

The above 3 are "safe". We order a different 3rd entree just to experiment

Bukharaa is okay. Because it was first in the area, I think it overly catered to westerners with the buffet. But check it out, buffet is a good intro to Indian food.
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All that cabin air must've ruined your sense of taste.

Skyline, and all Cincinnati Chili is terrible. It shouldn't even be called chili.
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Old 03-02-2022, 08:41 PM   #290
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Skyline, and all Cincinnati Chili is terrible. It shouldn't even be called chili.

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Old 03-02-2022, 08:50 PM   #291
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Zero desire to eat Ethiopian food.

If this were the 80s, one could hear teenagers making jokes like "You mean an empty plate?"
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Old 03-02-2022, 09:11 PM   #292
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If you are near Atlanta, Bhojanic is pretty good. Also, for Ethiopian, Desta is damn good.
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Old 03-03-2022, 05:12 AM   #293
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I had an Ethiopian curry a few months ago and it surprised the heck out of me. The bread you dip in the curry has a mild sour taste which is right up my alley, and the curry was amazing - I have no idea what is actually in it.
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Old 03-03-2022, 06:50 AM   #294
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The war should end in a matter of days, guys. The international cat federation banned Russian cats from competition.
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Old 03-03-2022, 07:49 AM   #295
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I read a fascinating thread from a former U.S. vehicle mechanic speculating that the convoy was due to the poor maintenance of Russian vehicles. He used some of the pictures of vehicles stuck in the mud to show blown tires and speculated the vehicles were moved regularly prior to the invasion and now the tire walls are brittle and subject to tears when they go off-road.
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Old 03-03-2022, 07:58 AM   #296
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I heard speculation Russian soldiers were punching holes in their own gas tanks.

It is pretty amazing they are trying to fight a war with a ground force that doesn't believe in the purpose.
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Old 03-03-2022, 11:14 AM   #298
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Considering the bravery of the Ukrainians, the unprofessionalism of the Russian military, and the united nature of the world response, things are going about as well as they possibly could at this point.

And Putin still has the ability (and, it appears, the plan based on the French reports of their talks with Russia) to either take over Ukraine, grind it into dust, or some combination of the two.

I'm still wondering about the endgame here. Putin will not turn tail and run. And Ukraine is not giving up. And millions of civilians are in the way.

Someone really, really, really needs to get rid of Putin.
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Old 03-03-2022, 11:21 AM   #299
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Yeah, this is my nagging feeling too. All the sanctions in the world probably aren't going to stop Putin from completely leveling the entire country if that's what it takes. Which it might, but nobody is willing to step in militarily to prevent that, so...
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