Space Rangers 2 GAME OF THE YEAR - Page 6

SackAttack · 05-30-2006, 01:24 PM

Yeah, the version I'm sitting on right now has Starforce, which is why I haven't reviewed it yet - I'd be in way over my head if I tried to mess with that.

If any of the Gamenikki folks who know what they're doing wanna handle it, though (Foz?), I've got a copy waiting.

sachmo71 · 05-30-2006, 01:35 PM

Just a note, in case anyone was wondering, you cannot get the D2D version if you had previously bought another version.

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I can not do this for a few reasons.

1 – starforce is not considered malware. There is no proof that it destroys computers or drives as for we have this game installed on 102 machines in this building.

2- I do not have any copies of the download without the SF on it, thus I can not send you a copy.

3- the D2D version (without SF) has to be installed to one machine and it has a generated code, this helps with the software protection.

All in all, I can not return this game as for it was purchased from somewhere else. If I had the download copy, you would already be playing it by now, but I can not send something that I do not have or not allowed to have. I am truly sorry for this.

WSUCougar · 07-11-2006, 11:09 AM

God, I do love this game.

Schmidty · 07-11-2006, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by WSUCougar

God, I do love this game.

It's really fun, but I'm not very good at it.

It seems like no matter how much I upgrade my ship, I get my ass kicked by random bad guys.

albionmoonlight · 07-11-2006, 11:25 AM

I love the progression. At the beginning, I was simply flying around, trying to trade small amounts of goods, and hoping that no one noticed me.

Now, I'm seeking out attacks into Dominator controlled systems. Let's roll!

Both aspects of the game were very enjoyable. And I imagine that I will continue to enjoy it as I move toward endgame.

The only thing I don't like is when I am caught on a text mission that I just cannot get. But even that feels good when I finally do beat it.

www.spacerangers2.com exists, for those that don't know.

WSUCougar · 07-11-2006, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

It's really fun, but I'm not very good at it.

It seems like no matter how much I upgrade my ship, I get my ass kicked by random bad guys.

One big key is speed. All the weaponry in the world doesn't matter if you can't catch the opponent when they flee, and disengage when you're in deep do-do.

Glengoyne · 07-11-2006, 12:30 PM

I have it, but have spent too much time with Gal Civ and FM lately. Then with the Tour going on, I downloaded the demo for Pro Cycling Manager. I'm apparently not meant to manage a cycling team. I took T-Mobile through a mountain stage of the Tour de France, and I made Jan Ullrich cry like a baby. Under my management he has yet to finish within sight of the stage winner, and has lost as much as thirteen minutes to the Yellow Jersey in my most recent effort.

SunDevil · 07-11-2006, 01:58 PM

I guess you can buy and download the game from Direct2Drive.
http://www.direct2drive.com/443/prod...oad?camp=24ggl

Anybody ever use them before. Are they any good? Thanks.

albionmoonlight · 07-11-2006, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDevil

I guess you can buy and download the game from Direct2Drive.
http://www.direct2drive.com/443/prod...oad?camp=24ggl

Anybody ever use them before. Are they any good? Thanks.

I have my version from Direct2Drive, and I have had no problems. It was the first time that I used them.

mauchow · 07-11-2006, 02:28 PM

I played the shit out of this game for about a month straight and haven't played it since. Probably because I got a corrupt save file(my fault) and also cuz I got some new games since then.

I, too got the game on D2D a while back, and it works great despite a few crashes. The game autosaves after every planet, so, when you crash a game it's usually not tough to make up.

SunDevil · 07-11-2006, 02:38 PM

Thanks guys.

WSUCougar · 07-17-2006, 04:05 PM

Heh. I'm just such a fast bad-ass now. Pirates fear me. Dominators don't faze me, because I can outrun any of them as well as their missiles and torps. My favorite tactic is to lure the Dominator fleet in close to the sun/star of the system, than do a quick orbit and watch 'em cook off. Last night I swear I had around two dozen torpedoes all ignite at once when they burned up. Heh.

I made captain, and the next rank up is something like "Exterminator." Yikes.

I'm having blast and it's hard to not play until the wee hours of the morning. Always a sign of a great game.

VPI97 · 07-17-2006, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by WSUCougar

I'm having blast and it's hard to not play until the wee hours of the morning. Always a sign of a great game.

Yeah...curse you guys for bumping this thread last week. I took a look at the game, liked what I saw and have been playing for about 3-4 hours a night for the past week. I've got a kickass engine (and the acompanying Nozzelator to give me 100 units more of speed), but I haven't found the right hull yet. I guess I want the best of everything (max slots, over 500+ size), but the ones I've seen have one or two things missing.

WSUCougar · 07-17-2006, 05:04 PM

So did you inform Nikki that you have an accompanying Nozzelator?

VPI97 · 07-17-2006, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by WSUCougar

So did you inform Nikki that you have an accompanying Nozzelator?

She wasn't too excited when I initially described it as something that would improve my speed. But when I changed that to say that it would improve my thrust, she was good to go.

SunDevil · 07-17-2006, 05:33 PM

Awesome game. I have not been able to put it down.

moriarty · 07-18-2006, 02:59 PM

Well, you guys suckered me into buying it. Haven't had too much time to play yet, but thumbs up to Direct 2 Drive (or whatever it's called) ... worked seamlessly so far.

One thing I would note for any begginers, after the official 'training' routine is done, land on Venus again for the RTS training. Maybe I just missed it, but I don't recall the trainers telling me to go back to Venus, and I just randomly discovered the RTS training there (probably would have missed it).

WSUCougar · 07-26-2006, 10:58 AM

So, um...(nervous laughter)...anyone know how you actually win this game?

VPI97 · 07-26-2006, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by WSUCougar

So, um...(nervous laughter)...anyone know how you actually win this game?

I assume it's to defeat all three Dominator 'brains'...but I'm having more fun with regular gameplay than to go ahead and try to take one of them out.

WSUCougar · 08-03-2006, 06:16 AM

Well, I finally did it!!! I finished the game.

I really enjoyed playing it out, but it had become something of an obsession to finish. If anyone wants insights into the end game, let me know.

MizzouRah · 08-03-2006, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by WSUCougar

Well, I finally did it!!! I finished the game.

I really enjoyed playing it out, but it had become something of an obsession to finish. If anyone wants insights into the end game, let me know.

Nicely done!

moriarty · 08-03-2006, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WSUCougar

Well, I finally did it!!! I finished the game.

I really enjoyed playing it out, but it had become something of an obsession to finish. If anyone wants insights into the end game, let me know.

Was it worth it? Finishing I mean?

Antmeister · 08-03-2006, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WSUCougar

Well, I finally did it!!! I finished the game.

I really enjoyed playing it out, but it had become something of an obsession to finish. If anyone wants insights into the end game, let me know.

Damn...good job. After a while, I didn't think this game could be finished. I have played for a good month, so now I will probably start it up again.

moriarty · 09-11-2006, 08:00 PM

Inspired by WSUCougar, I just defeated my last Dominator.

Great game. I really don't normally go for these type of space games, but this one had such a nice balance and really captured the 'one more turn' feel for me.

Ah well, now it's back to FM ... but money well spent.

WSUCougar · 09-11-2006, 09:29 PM

Nice job, moriarty!

kmbgolf · 09-27-2006, 06:31 PM

just downloading now ...wondering aafter the download how can I get to play it on my daughters comp..........Im downloading on my laptop...........anybody give spaceempire5 demo a try yet?

Crapshoot · 02-18-2007, 03:17 PM

Bump,
wanted to thank you lot - I'm really enjoying this game, even the heavily accent English and "creative" writing (though it does wear down on you, after a while). I'm tired of going to jail though!

Crapshoot · 02-18-2007, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I love the progression. At the beginning, I was simply flying around, trying to trade small amounts of goods, and hoping that no one noticed me.

Now, I'm seeking out attacks into Dominator controlled systems. Let's roll!

Both aspects of the game were very enjoyable. And I imagine that I will continue to enjoy it as I move toward endgame.

The only thing I don't like is when I am caught on a text mission that I just cannot get. But even that feels good when I finally do beat it.

www.spacerangers2.com exists, for those that don't know.

"". I traded my way up initially, running away from everyone. As I progressed, I'm now definitely seeking out fights, and taking on people. One cool gadget that I got was the victory computer, which gives you odds on every opponent you can scan - its nice when I feel like getting a "Christmas Bonus" from the liner that just passed by.

Uncle Briggs · 11-28-2007, 06:04 PM

I saw this at Target for $9.99. How do I know if it has that starforce protection and should I not get it if it does?

scooter · 11-28-2007, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Uncle Briggs

I saw this at Target for $9.99. How do I know if it has that starforce protection and should I not get it if it does?

hxxp://wiki.boycottstarforce.net/index.php/Game_list

When in doubt, check the list.

RendeR · 11-28-2007, 06:59 PM

This better be good, Its my first video game purchase in a year!

mauchow · 11-28-2007, 08:07 PM

Prepare to be dissappointed...

NOT!

Schmidty · 11-28-2007, 09:06 PM

I had fun with it for a week or two, and then forgot about it.

I guess for 9.99 you'll be getting a decent value.

PilotMan · 11-29-2007, 12:09 AM

Without reading the entire thread, did anyone actually have any problems with the Starforce protection with SR2?

Surtt · 11-29-2007, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

Without reading the entire thread, did anyone actually have any problems with the Starforce protection with SR2?

At the risk of being boxed,....

Um, I know this guy who bought copy of the game, but did not want Starforce on his computer.
Um,... who did a google...
Um,... and was able to install it without starforce.

Calis · 02-10-2008, 09:18 PM

Not sure if people are interested in this, but somehow I never heard about it until today and I'm pretty excited.

http://www.1cpublishing.eu/game/king...egend/overview

The makers of Space Rangers next game is a spiritual sequel to King's Bounty, which was the precursor to Heroes of Might and Magic, and was a game I spent many many hours playing. I don't know much else about it, but it's definitely worth keeping an eye on. I think it's actually due to be released in Russia here very shortly, but no idea on the American release.

Atocep · 02-10-2008, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calis

Not sure if people are interested in this, but somehow I never heard about it until today and I'm pretty excited.

http://www.1cpublishing.eu/game/king...egend/overview

The makers of Space Rangers next game is a spiritual sequel to King's Bounty, which was the precursor to Heroes of Might and Magic, and was a game I spent many many hours playing. I don't know much else about it, but it's definitely worth keeping an eye on. I think it's actually due to be released in Russia here very shortly, but no idea on the American release.

Been keeping an eye on it, NA release is supposed to be in late April.

Calis · 12-12-2008, 06:46 AM

Anyone who missed this and has interest, Stardock is running a sale through the weekend where you can pick up Space Rangers 2 plus the expansion for $3.99.

That's quite a gaming value.

Space Rangers 2 Complete

Also some other good sales going on there also for GalCiv, Political Machine, and a few others.

Pumpy Tudors · 12-13-2008, 02:39 AM

Shit, I didn't even know there was an expansion!

Icy · 12-13-2008, 03:41 AM

I have always been interested on this game and never bought it for one reason or another, i might pick it up now.

Edward64 · 12-13-2008, 07:53 AM

Thanks for the heads up. Bought SR2 complete ... haven't installed it yet but the online page did not specifically say the expansion was part of the SR2 complete package?

Flasch186 · 12-13-2008, 09:05 AM

had to buy it at that price.

Calis · 12-13-2008, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Shit, I didn't even know there was an expansion!

It's more of a beefy patch than an expansion, but for the price it's hard to argue. Here's the features of the expansion.

* Five new text quests.
* 27 new planetary battle maps.
* 10 new hyperspace battle maps.
* More than 50 new governmental missions of different types to complete.
* New unique equipment.
* Two new game modes: text-quests and planetary battles.
* Improved galaxy searching system.

It wasn't released as a standalone as far as I can tell, it was just retooled into the normal game which is probably why they don't specify it on the "Complete" package, but that's the only thing that sets the complete apart from just Space Rangers, so it's there.

Flasch186 · 12-13-2008, 09:21 AM

coolest part for me is that im on a new computer now and after installing their DL client, Impulse, found out I have GalCiv2 in there just waiting for a new install on this laptop. Nice.

Calis · 12-13-2008, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186

coolest part for me is that im on a new computer now and after installing their DL client, Impulse, found out I have GalCiv2 in there just waiting for a new install on this laptop. Nice.

Sad thing for me is every time I run Impulse it does that reminding me I have Sins of a Solar Empire which I've never played. That might be my record for longest time owning a game without playing it. Heard nothing but good things about it also.

Someday...

Axxon · 12-13-2008, 11:37 AM

I've gotta say 1C is rapidly becoming my favorite game house. With this, fantasy wars and kings bounty I always have something to play.

Fantasy Wars is a Fantasy General type game and Kings Bounty is, well, a Kings Bounty type game. Two of my favorite games remade so to speak.

thesloppy · 12-13-2008, 01:05 PM

Thanx from me too. Quite a bargain. I played this game a ton, and then lost it when I re-installed windows, never bothering to pick it up again, but with the expansion pack it's well worth a couple bucks to give it another run-through with a fresh character.

Pumpy Tudors · 12-13-2008, 08:47 PM

OK, now that I know what's in the expansion (thanks, Calis!), I absolutely have to buy this. Very excited!

thesloppy · 12-14-2008, 08:35 AM

Lookit my pride and joy:

Spoiler

MizzouRah · 12-14-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by thesloppy

Thanx from me too. Quite a bargain. I played this game a ton, and then lost it when I re-installed windows, never bothering to pick it up again, but with the expansion pack it's well worth a couple bucks to give it another run-through with a fresh character.

I lost my copy somewhere or sold it.. but with the expansion and for the price, time to install it again!

07-11-2006, 11:09 AM	#253
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	God, I do love this game. __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

07-17-2006, 04:05 PM	#262
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	Heh. I'm just such a fast bad-ass now. Pirates fear me. Dominators don't faze me, because I can outrun any of them as well as their missiles and torps. My favorite tactic is to lure the Dominator fleet in close to the sun/star of the system, than do a quick orbit and watch 'em cook off. Last night I swear I had around two dozen torpedoes all ignite at once when they burned up. Heh. I made captain, and the next rank up is something like "Exterminator." Yikes. I'm having blast and it's hard to not play until the wee hours of the morning. Always a sign of a great game. __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

07-17-2006, 05:04 PM	#264
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	So did you inform Nikki that you have an accompanying Nozzelator? __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

07-26-2006, 10:58 AM	#268
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	So, um...(nervous laughter)...anyone know how you actually win this game? __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

08-03-2006, 06:16 AM	#270
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	Well, I finally did it!!! I finished the game. I really enjoyed playing it out, but it had become something of an obsession to finish. If anyone wants insights into the end game, let me know. __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

05-30-2006, 01:24 PM	#251
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Yeah, the version I'm sitting on right now has Starforce, which is why I haven't reviewed it yet - I'd be in way over my head if I tried to mess with that. If any of the Gamenikki folks who know what they're doing wanna handle it, though (Foz?), I've got a copy waiting.

07-11-2006, 11:25 AM	#255
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	I love the progression. At the beginning, I was simply flying around, trying to trade small amounts of goods, and hoping that no one noticed me. Now, I'm seeking out attacks into Dominator controlled systems. Let's roll! Both aspects of the game were very enjoyable. And I imagine that I will continue to enjoy it as I move toward endgame. The only thing I don't like is when I am caught on a text mission that I just cannot get. But even that feels good when I finally do beat it. www.spacerangers2.com exists, for those that don't know.

07-11-2006, 12:30 PM	#257
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	I have it, but have spent too much time with Gal Civ and FM lately. Then with the Tour going on, I downloaded the demo for Pro Cycling Manager. I'm apparently not meant to manage a cycling team. I took T-Mobile through a mountain stage of the Tour de France, and I made Jan Ullrich cry like a baby. Under my management he has yet to finish within sight of the stage winner, and has lost as much as thirteen minutes to the Yellow Jersey in my most recent effort.

07-11-2006, 02:28 PM	#260
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	I played the shit out of this game for about a month straight and haven't played it since. Probably because I got a corrupt save file(my fault) and also cuz I got some new games since then. I, too got the game on D2D a while back, and it works great despite a few crashes. The game autosaves after every planet, so, when you crash a game it's usually not tough to make up.

07-18-2006, 02:59 PM	#267
moriarty College Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: A negative place	Well, you guys suckered me into buying it. Haven't had too much time to play yet, but thumbs up to Direct 2 Drive (or whatever it's called) ... worked seamlessly so far. One thing I would note for any begginers, after the official 'training' routine is done, land on Venus again for the RTS training. Maybe I just missed it, but I don't recall the trainers telling me to go back to Venus, and I just randomly discovered the RTS training there (probably would have missed it).

09-11-2006, 08:00 PM	#274
moriarty College Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: A negative place	Inspired by WSUCougar, I just defeated my last Dominator. Great game. I really don't normally go for these type of space games, but this one had such a nice balance and really captured the 'one more turn' feel for me. Ah well, now it's back to FM ... but money well spent.

09-11-2006, 09:29 PM	#275
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	Nice job, moriarty! __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

09-27-2006, 06:31 PM	#276
kmbgolf n00b Join Date: Oct 2003	just downloading now ...wondering aafter the download how can I get to play it on my daughters comp..........Im downloading on my laptop...........anybody give spaceempire5 demo a try yet?

02-18-2007, 03:17 PM	#277
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Bump, wanted to thank you lot - I'm really enjoying this game, even the heavily accent English and "creative" writing (though it does wear down on you, after a while). I'm tired of going to jail though!

11-28-2007, 06:04 PM	#279
Uncle Briggs Mascot Join Date: Nov 2006	I saw this at Target for $9.99. How do I know if it has that starforce protection and should I not get it if it does?

11-28-2007, 06:59 PM	#281
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	This better be good, Its my first video game purchase in a year! __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

11-28-2007, 08:07 PM	#282
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Prepare to be dissappointed... NOT!

11-28-2007, 09:06 PM	#283
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	I had fun with it for a week or two, and then forgot about it. I guess for 9.99 you'll be getting a decent value.

11-29-2007, 12:09 AM	#284
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Without reading the entire thread, did anyone actually have any problems with the Starforce protection with SR2? __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

02-10-2008, 09:18 PM	#286
Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	Not sure if people are interested in this, but somehow I never heard about it until today and I'm pretty excited. http://www.1cpublishing.eu/game/king...egend/overview The makers of Space Rangers next game is a spiritual sequel to King's Bounty, which was the precursor to Heroes of Might and Magic, and was a game I spent many many hours playing. I don't know much else about it, but it's definitely worth keeping an eye on. I think it's actually due to be released in Russia here very shortly, but no idea on the American release.

12-12-2008, 06:46 AM	#288
Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	Anyone who missed this and has interest, Stardock is running a sale through the weekend where you can pick up Space Rangers 2 plus the expansion for $3.99. That's quite a gaming value. Space Rangers 2 Complete Also some other good sales going on there also for GalCiv, Political Machine, and a few others. Last edited by Calis : 12-12-2008 at 06:47 AM.

12-13-2008, 02:39 AM	#289
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Shit, I didn't even know there was an expansion! __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

12-13-2008, 03:41 AM	#290
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	I have always been interested on this game and never bought it for one reason or another, i might pick it up now. __________________

12-13-2008, 07:53 AM	#291
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	Thanks for the heads up. Bought SR2 complete ... haven't installed it yet but the online page did not specifically say the expansion was part of the SR2 complete package?

12-13-2008, 09:05 AM	#292
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	had to buy it at that price. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

12-13-2008, 09:21 AM	#294
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	coolest part for me is that im on a new computer now and after installing their DL client, Impulse, found out I have GalCiv2 in there just waiting for a new install on this laptop. Nice. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

12-13-2008, 11:37 AM	#296
Axxon Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Phoenix, AZ	I've gotta say 1C is rapidly becoming my favorite game house. With this, fantasy wars and kings bounty I always have something to play. Fantasy Wars is a Fantasy General type game and Kings Bounty is, well, a Kings Bounty type game. Two of my favorite games remade so to speak. __________________ There are no houris, alas, in our heaven.

12-13-2008, 01:05 PM	#297
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	Thanx from me too. Quite a bargain. I played this game a ton, and then lost it when I re-installed windows, never bothering to pick it up again, but with the expansion pack it's well worth a couple bucks to give it another run-through with a fresh character.

12-13-2008, 08:47 PM	#298
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	OK, now that I know what's in the expansion (thanks, Calis!), I absolutely have to buy this. Very excited! __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

12-14-2008, 08:35 AM	#299
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	Lookit my pride and joy: Spoiler I stumbled on this lady pretty early on, in pretty much this exact shape (there's a micromodule attached that increased the size from 297 to 317, and that's the only modification I made). Comparable hulls, at the time and since cost at least 4 times more, with only 1 point of cladding and without that mighty fine speed boost, which I have grown to absolutely love. I dunno why it was so cheap...even hulls of the exact same type (and bonuses) with less armor usually cost more. The size starting out below 300 seems to make a big difference on price point, but whatever the case, I have been reaping the benefits. Not only is the hull cheap, but you can get big savings from that speed boost, which allows you to stick a cheap-ass engine in there and save on the endless cost of engine repair from boosting, and still be faster than anything available on the market.

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