11-02-2012, 02:57 PM | #251 |
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OK, can you guys buy the game yet on steam and whatīs the current price tag ?
Also, do the changes actually make a difference in terms of "time you need to invest" ? Alas, as an experienced player can i enjoy the game while having to invest less time to move forward (not move forward less, just more quickly) Can you change between classic and normal mode in a career ? And how limited is the classic mode ?
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11-02-2012, 03:05 PM | #252 |
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In the UK it is Ģ22.50 (€28) in the Green Man Gaming store after using a discount code, but I am not sure if that will work for Germans if the game is not sold in your country.
On Steam the game is Ģ29.99 (€37). |
11-02-2012, 03:08 PM | #253 |
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Just noticed that there is a 35% discount voucher on Green Man Gaming which brings the price down to Ģ20 or $26.
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11-02-2012, 03:16 PM | #254 |
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yeah, for steam i know itīll work, wouldnīt take the risk with other game stores.
thanks for the info, iīm still pondering ... (propably will try to sell some other games first on ebay and see what comes up that way, being a student now simply has me at a way smaller budget )
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11-02-2012, 04:32 PM | #256 |
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i doubt thatīs practical with shipping to the US
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I just took the plunge, after playing the demo yesterday and reading about the add/remove league bug being fixed i was sold. Bough a steam key for 29,99 Euros (didnīt know that was possible), now waiting for it to download and install
Can i assume that last years graphic thingies will work this year ? (logos and pictures)
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11-04-2012, 10:30 AM | #260 |
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I took the plunge from Green Man Gaming. I'd planned on waiting for 19.99 but having it now for 26 was enough to get me in motion.
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11-04-2012, 10:53 AM | #261 |
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Damn the whiners are out in full force on the SI boards going on and on about the match engine
I've only played two friendly games (I watch the full 90 minutes) and while I do have an untrained American eye for the game I have been impressed. Beat my reserves 4-1 and had a 1-0 win against and evenly matched side in my last game playing as Burnley in the Championship. So much for all crosses scoring and defenders\keepers being clueless. Hell, I was up 1-0 in my second friendly and hit a beautiful cross into the box with my ST moving towards goal. He got a strong head to the ball at ~3-5 yds away the the keeper was able to deflect the shot. Ball fell to the ground just outside the 6 yd box and I figured with the "dumb" defenders it would be an easy tap in for one of my lads. Not so the defense scrambled to get to the ball and quickly cleared it. Also saw the same type of things from my defenders when the ball gets into the box. With all of the bitching I was looking for almost anything in the box going into the net, crossed or worked into. Hasn't been the case. My defense and the AI defense have been good at reacting and clearing. Again my untrained eye has found the play in the box to be much more realistic. I've read many complaints on wing play. Second game as a 5-4 home favorite (so pretty evenly matched squads) my AMR 18\19 pace\acceleration had no problem dribbling down the sideline even snaking his way past the ML and FB a couple of times all the way to the touchline and hitting beautiful crosses into the box. None of the unexplained back passes that many have complained about. Maybe my small sample size? Maybe not growing up watching the beautiful game I simply don't notice the problems? Sure is possible. Curious what others are seeing? Loving the new gui even if it takes a bit to learn where everything is. New training module is a good change IMHO. Love seeing it all mapped out on the calender and at the same time being able to override the default settings easily. Going to be a huge time saver for me. |
11-04-2012, 11:16 AM | #262 |
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i would wish that they had taken a few elements from the new "FM classic" and made them available for the normal game (f.e. the "instant result" option)
Itīs freaking awesome you can now start managing both a club and a National Team right from the go
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I'm not one of those posting on the SI boards (I am not sure if I have ever posted there before actually), but I have had all kinds of difficulties with the crosses scoring and my defenders being clueless. When I have tried to go with a tactic that I have enjoyed playing for years (4-3-3 modified tactic I created myself and have tweaked through each version), I have simply had no luck at all dealing with things. I think the problems has something to do with players just being out of a defensive position and not understanding how to get back correctly and they just kind of become zombies out there until I get the ball back, or a score occurs. That is the closest thing that I can think of to describe things. After getting frustrated for quite a while tweaking with it, I finally gave up and scrapped my 4-3-3 all together for now. Running a 4-4-2 that I have pretty defensive mentality across the board, I don't seem to be having as much of a problem with it. Perhaps that is due to just having a ton of people back, but I still see the occasional brain-dead marking, but at least it is not 4-5 goals a game worth and feels a little more reasonable to deal with. Once again, I don't know if there is an issue with the match engine, or if I somehow got much worse planning a 4-3-3 in the last month though |
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Downloading from Steam now. Classic Mode might have been introduced with me in mind--I passed on FM 11 and 12 because they expanded on those parts of the game that I'd come to dislike, especially postmatch press conferences. I'm interested to see how the revamped team finances work out.
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Some guy on the si forums created an FMC skin for the regular version of the game. The instant result button stayed and works. My system can switch between skins easily, so I swap my skin to FMC if it's one of the ones I don't care to watch. Like end of the year games I have no desire to watch. |
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thanks for the info, iīll have a look at that might be at least an option for preseason had a nice run with southampton in the demo and might go with them full game.
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11-04-2012, 07:29 PM | #268 |
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hxxp://forum.fm-view.net/topic/15507-fmc-skin-for-fm13-updated/ (I used xx for safety there, not sure if anything on the site is bad or not)
FMC for FM13 is what it is called. My FAVORITE skin of all time has also been released. It's called Steklo X3. Last year he didn't make it until December and it killed me. This year, it has already been released. hxxp://sortitoutsi.net/downloads/view/1598/steklo-x3-v1.1 The link has screenshots. |
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on that forum thereīs also the default dark skin with the instant result button (so not the FMC skin for normal mode, but the normal mode skion with just that 1 change)
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just spent an hour adjusting training and then the fucking game crashes on me when trying to talk to a player. I literally never had a crash with FM, ever ...
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Thought I'd post some of the SI forum discussion from wwfan (the most knowledgeable person IMHO about the match engine) about why we're seeing tactics from older versions of FM no longer work with the new match engine. Also responses from a couple of users who, once they adjusted their tactics because of advice from wwfan are now having success.
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Interesting - maybe I will try to tweak my tactic. I don't think this is the key problem with my lack of goals this year - I scored a ton in the first year I played through, but my goals have dropped off this year. Maybe I should make sure I have a DLF on "Support" rather than "Attack" though, as I have been getting "gaps between the lines" messages and I am struggling to score in my second year. I still think it's largely down to personnel though, as my team is struggling to adapt to feeding Fernando Llorente (who I picked up on a free transfer) instead of my other strikers.
But maybe some tactical tweaks (and attacking movement training) will have him pouring in goals for me. Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 11-05-2012 at 06:06 PM. |
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Does seem to explain why when I went back to the drawing board with a fairly simple 4-2-2, I am having really good success. After I get used to this for a bit, I'll try to figure out a new 4-3-3 that works better again. |
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That was a good read, thanks for posting it over here Sweed.
Once the beta was patched, I had to ditch my tactic from the beta that gave me my only unbeaten season in FM history. Of course the only point of the tactic was to have the right winger run down then touchline, floating past the defenders and then crossing it to a crowded middle for tap-ins. And this formation didn't really deserve to work, I knew I was just exploiting flaws in the game but I wasn't sticking with the save long term and just wanted to see how far it'd go. -------------FC------------ -----AMC---AMC----------- --------MC------MC-----MR ---------------------------- DL-------DC-----DC------DR --------------------------- -------------GK-------------- Now I have a deep squad that could play several kinds of formations but I just can't settle on one. Last edited by Big Fo : 11-05-2012 at 09:01 PM. |
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Playing LLM with Peterhead in the lowest Scottish division. So far, so good, but I think that I am missing something involving scouting--my scout has been wandering around the UK for six months, and he has not recommended or, as far as I can tell, looked at a single player, and he seems to have come to his position knowing only eight players in the entire country. I'd love for him to stick to Scotland, but I am not sure how I can make him do that. Granted, players who want to play for Peterhead should be few and far between, but surely there must be someone, somewhere, who would be willing to suit up for The Blue Toon.
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first cancel all his current scouting assignments. then assign him to just scout scotland. a scout cant be assigned to scout a region and a country at the same time. i bet your scout is assigned to scout the UK Last edited by bulletsponge : 11-06-2012 at 02:39 PM. |
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ok, either iīm stupid or someone at SI might a horendous decicion : Canīt you set filters in a "match 4 of 6 attributes" kind of fashinon anymore ?
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just found it ... for some reason you can only change it after choosing the attributes, could swear you could in the "pick attributes" screen last version.
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One thing I've always wondered is just how much effect a player's position familiarity matters and how much effectiveness does a player lose being played out of position.
Like a central midfielder, if you play them in hole or in the DMC spot, which are at least close to M (C), are they hindered less than if you were to put them in at fullback? (just positionally, ignoring how suitable the player's attributes are for the various positions). Or how much do you lose by playing one of those strikers who is accomplished at one of the wing spots (like an SC/AML) but unfamiliar with the ML role in the ML role? |
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Strange--I cannot do that. I cancel all his assignments, but I still cannot assign him to a country. (I'm playing Classic mode.) When I click New Assignment and then choose my scout, I get a choice of three assignments: Next Opposition, Known Talent, and New Talent. If I choose New Talent, I am not given any options about where my scout goes. He goes straight to Northern Ireland, then the Republic, then England--all without his having given me any information about players in Scotland, where his knowledge is 100 percent (whatever that means). Basically, if that's how the scouting system really works, it makes playing LLM in Classic mode impossible. And the fact that there are now 2 FM modes makes it hard to figure out much. When you go onto the SI forums, much of the advice pertains to one mode but not the other, and it's not always clear which mode is being discussed--sometimes, both modes are being discussed without anyone realizing it, and everyone is talking past one another. And the manual does not seem to have specific information regarding the Classic mode; in the section on scouting assignments, for example, it has a picture of a screen that must be what you get when you play in the non-classic mode, because it is not what you see in thre Classic mode.. As a lapsed FMer coming back to the fold, I have to say that I am finding FMC 2013 to be very frustrating--something that I never found with FM 2010, or any of the earlier versions that I played. End of rant, and probably the end of my FMC playing.
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Update on Steam.
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isnīt it by default that they are more likely to have orange (rather then red) colour when putting them to a position near them ? Still canīt decide a club to start with ... Did a couple weeks with Southampton but then also a few with AJ Auxerre and then Sochaux. Might do Sochaux, but will use the editor to at least give me some coaches (they are a first division team but have zero senior coaches) Question : In the new FM training, when you assign coaches, i canīt find a way to assign coaches for youth training or senior training. It lumbs all players together ? Does that mean that U19 coaches assigned to (say) tactics, do tactic for all players or just U19 ? If so, how do i get the different tables back, otherwise itīs tough to keep track.
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So I get an in-game email message that lists all of my players with under six months to go on their contracts. The message also has a "set to release" button.
1) What does the set to release button do? I searched the manual without luck. Does hitting the button free up salary so that I can sign transfers whose contracts begin when the released players' contracts end? 2) Is there any option other than hitting the button and setting all of them to release, or not hitting the button and setting none of them to release? A few of those players I would rather resign and not set to release, others I am happy to let go. While I admire the players' mutual loyalty in demanding that I either resign all of them or none of them, that's not very realistic. The manual is really of no help for Classic mode. It just has one page asserting that "Classic mode is different, and all the changes are entirely intentional." I think that SI, instead of releasing two games under the guise of different modes, would have been better off releasing a single game/mode in which people had the option to select or deselect various options currently limited to one mode or the other.
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11-07-2012, 06:48 PM | #291 |
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I wonder if it's a notice that you have no intention of resigning them
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Set to release means you tell them you have no intention to resign them when their contract ends, so they will be more aggressive about accepting bosman offers and/or transfer offers probably
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might also hold some weight when you have contract negotiation as part of your assistant managers responsibilitíes ?
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In past versions, you could change your team kit colours (or, translated into American - your uniform colors) with a .lnc file in mid-game. Can you not still do that? Did I just dream that? I've taken over Gainsborough and ugh! Them unis are tough to take.
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Saw this while my game was running operations. Hmm.
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Had something funny happen. An agent offered me a GK from Russia. (not Akeenfiv) He said the team would be willing to let him go for 320 million dollars. I look up the kid to see how special he is. I had to scout him and when the report came back, he showed up as 2.5 stars with the potential for 4 stars. He's a 19 year old kid.
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