WW XCIII - Mine Wars - Battle of Blair Mountain - SYMPATHIZERS WIN!!!

[EagleFan]

Unless I am missing something I don't see anything overly damning there. Honestly I think the worst voting record there ends up being dubb, a known villager.

[EagleFan]

CR's throw away on what is now a known vilager is a little curious.

I seriously dislike the no votes of ntn and DT. We had 4 no votes that day, that is pretty poor (TheNorm and Schmidty as well).

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I don't understand CR's Autumn vote, seems like a throw away vote.

You should probably go back and read my reasoning then. I explained it a couple times. I also later admitted I was wrong.

[Glengoyne]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

If the goal of arrests is mainly to stop work, then it's entirely possible the wolves would arrest one of their own to prevent the same thing (and possibly gain trust).

I think it's as good of a spot as any at this point.

This is something that has been discussed, wolves arresting themselves to garner trust. You struck on a point there though. It really doesn't matter whether or not the arrestee is a villager. Their work is still missed for the day.

[Glengoyne]

I can't speak for the others, but my vote on NTN is based on he and DT being the only non-cleared folks on PB on Day 5.

I've said this like three times today...but a couple of people were asking "why NTN?". My answer...because I believe it's a fairly reasonable assumption that either he or DT is a wolf.

[Glengoyne]

Vote Count?

Still between NTN and Clap?

[EagleFan]

As of 3056:


Food Distribution: Danny x3 (2750), EagleFan x3 (2757), Lathum x3 (2760), USFLTecmo (2940) (10/10)

Oratory: automatic

Hunting: PurdueBrad (2774) (1/8)

Mission: ntndeacon (2759), Glengoyne (2767), Chief Rum (2773), jeheinz72 (2894), RendeR (2897), Barkeep49 (2899), DaddyTorgo (2908), claphamsa (2910) (8/?)


ntndeacon 3 - Glengoyne (2767), EagleFan (3030), PurdueBrad (3045)
claphamsa 4 - Lathum (2771), Chief Rum (2772), Danny (2801), RendeR (2842)
Danny 1 - clamphamsa (2777)
DaddyTorgo 1 - Barkeep49 (2779)
PurdueBrad 1 - ntndeacon (3017)
USFLTecmo 1 - jeheinz72 (3046)



No vote: DaddyTorgo, USFLTecmo

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I am not sold on the supply the dynamite act. He gave the dynamite to the duke. It seems like it is clear that only a certain role can use it, based on BK's account of having it and not knowing what to do with it until DT used his initial supply. This could very easily be a ploy of trying to gain trust of aknown villager by giving them an item, especially if it looks like the person they are giving it to can't use it. I doubt that multiple roles would be given to the same person, just seems too powerful.

I am still not sold on DT either but his actions seem to benefit us moreso than ntn's.

I first gave the dynamite to someone else who nicely dropped it back to me as they were leaving. I knew BK was a labor person, I did not know how to use thw Dynamyte but thought thatwas due to my skill not a power. Not only have igiven dynamyte I have given weapons to various people as well in addition to the food I found.

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

CR's throw away on what is now a known vilager is a little curious.

I seriously dislike the no votes of ntn and DT. We had 4 no votes that day, that is pretty poor (TheNorm and Schmidty as well).

I have actually it on this before too. I was not able to do anything on this over the weekend. It was work related. I was making examsfor a lot of that time as well as hiding from tornados.

[ntndeacon]

About the vote on PB...
I thought that there were a couple votes on him already, and had gotten more ok with leaving DT and Danny alone. but since iam the sole vote on him that vote will change.

[ntndeacon]

Unvote PB

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Me?

It's partly attrition. I"m really only considering the non-cleareds today. I'm not voting clap, it seems standard fare for him so far and he's given me no real reason. I'm not voting for NTN, likely not DT.

That then leaves the group

Danny, USFL, Glen, PB, RendeR

I'm in agreement on Danny's reasoning that he's likely only a wolf if PB is. So cross Danny off.

Glen just hasn't given me a wolf vibe. I'm not clearing him because of the whole Schmidty-abscence, but just not getting that feel (of course I haven't played with him much)

RendeR I elevate a bit b/c of the Pass arguement and head-to-head votes with Jackal from early on. Not a clearance, but a tick upward.

That leaves PB and You.

So that should make your vote a simple one.

thats for the support... I think,

If this ever becomes my standard fare of play, shootme, and then delete my WW acoutn

media frenzy over nonfactor flu oubreaks at the begining of VERY complicated games = me sucking.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

I have actually it on this before too. I was not able to do anything on this over the weekend. It was work related. I was making examsfor a lot of that time as well as hiding from tornados.

I understand the weekend thing but day three was a Thursday.

[ntndeacon]

I thought Day Three was Friday through Sunday

[EagleFan]

As of 3063:


Food Distribution: Danny x3 (2750), EagleFan x3 (2757), Lathum x3 (2760), USFLTecmo (2940) (10/10)

Oratory: automatic

Hunting: PurdueBrad (2774) (1/8)

Mission: ntndeacon (2759), Glengoyne (2767), Chief Rum (2773), jeheinz72 (2894), RendeR (2897), Barkeep49 (2899), DaddyTorgo (2908), claphamsa (2910) (8/?) (7/?)


ntndeacon 3 - Glengoyne (2767), EagleFan (3030), PurdueBrad (3045)
claphamsa 4 - Lathum (2771), Chief Rum (2772), Danny (2801), RendeR (2842)
Danny 1 - clamphamsa (2777)
DaddyTorgo 1 - Barkeep49 (2779)
USFLTecmo 1 - jeheinz72 (3046)



No vote: DaddyTorgo, USFLTecmo, ntndeacon

Bold is for DT being arrested.

[Lathum]

NTN is always quiet, I find nothing out of characture about his play

[ntndeacon]

it is odd to see that arrest taking place. did the sympathizers thimk 7 wasnt going to be enough?

[PurdueBrad]

Abe- Can a person that is arrested be lynched?

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

The clap vote on Pass makes him look a little better as he would be pushing a fellow wolf into the lead with that vote, though it was early.

SEE LATHUM hes saying not me

It was a total throw away, I was buys, had no idea who to vote for, and didnt want to not vote

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

it is odd to see that arrest taking place. did the sympathizers thimk 7 wasnt going to be enough?

I agree, it does seem like a very odd choice.

I would have guessed a x3 would have been arrested. Maybe the couldn't arrest me a second time. Not sure about why not Danny and Lathum though.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I agree, it does seem like a very odd choice.

I would have guessed a x3 would have been arrested. Maybe the couldn't arrest me a second time. Not sure about why not Danny and Lathum though.

why arents n X3? there were 3 of them... even if one is gone, they can still do 12 uits over 2 days.... 3d one is gravy

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

it is odd to see that arrest taking place. did the sympathizers thimk 7 wasnt going to be enough?

Another thought is that they were worried about this reward and took a chance that one less would hurt us. This makes USFL's move a little more curious.

unvote ntn

vote USFL

[EagleFan]

As of 3072:


Food Distribution: Danny x3 (2750), EagleFan x3 (2757), Lathum x3 (2760), USFLTecmo (2940) (10/10)

Oratory: automatic

Hunting: PurdueBrad (2774) (1/8)

Mission: ntndeacon (2759), Glengoyne (2767), Chief Rum (2773), jeheinz72 (2894), RendeR (2897), Barkeep49 (2899), DaddyTorgo (2908), claphamsa (2910) (8/?) (7/?)


ntndeacon 2 - Glengoyne (2767), PurdueBrad (3045)
claphamsa 4 - Lathum (2771), Chief Rum (2772), Danny (2801), RendeR (2842)
Danny 1 - clamphamsa (2777)
DaddyTorgo 1 - Barkeep49 (2779)
USFLTecmo 2 - jeheinz72 (3046), EagleFan (3072)



No vote: DaddyTorgo, USFLTecmo, ntndeacon

[b]Bold is for DT being arrested.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

SEE LATHUM hes saying not me

It was a total throw away, I was buys, had no idea who to vote for, and didnt want to not vote

your vote was the 5th one cast at that time, so with about 11 more votes to come I really don't give you credit for voting Pass

[USFLTecmo]

Vote Claphamsa

I tend to trust Lathum and CR in their positions, and ntn has less cleared people voting for him. I also gather that voting anywhere beyond clap-ntn is going to be viewed as a "wasted" vote, so that clinches it.

[USFLTecmo]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Hopefully USFL will show up and go food dist. If we get the mission completed successfully all we would then have to worry about is on of the x3's faking. If this happens we will at least have the culprit narrowed down.

EF, here are the words out of your own mouth that I followed, given I showed up less than 5 minutes ahead of the mission deadline.

[EagleFan]

As of 3076:


Food Distribution: Danny x3 (2750), EagleFan x3 (2757), Lathum x3 (2760), USFLTecmo (2940) (10/10)

Oratory: automatic

Hunting: PurdueBrad (2774) (1/8)

Mission: ntndeacon (2759), Glengoyne (2767), Chief Rum (2773), jeheinz72 (2894), RendeR (2897), Barkeep49 (2899), DaddyTorgo (2908), claphamsa (2910) (8/?) (7/?)


ntndeacon 2 - Glengoyne (2767), PurdueBrad (3045)
claphamsa 5 - Lathum (2771), Chief Rum (2772), Danny (2801), RendeR (2842), USFTecmo (3075)
Danny 1 - clamphamsa (2777)
DaddyTorgo 1 - Barkeep49 (2779)
USFLTecmo 2 - jeheinz72 (3046), EagleFan (3072)



No vote: DaddyTorgo, ntndeacon

Bold is for DT being arrested.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by USFLTecmo

EF, here are the words out of your own mouth that I followed, given I showed up less than 5 minutes ahead of the mission deadline.

I'll give you that. I was an idiot when I posted that. I didn't see until your unvote that you had been on the mission (I had you and Lathum incorrectly still in the not worked column as I didn't erase your name). I seriously need to stop trying to multi-task when I do those updates.

[USFLTecmo]

All's well that ends well, in this case. I don't think it's going to cost me my spot in the game, and we got an extra worker out of it, as well.

[ntndeacon]

Vote clap

basically a not me vote. but he has also been one that is uncleared and there does not seem to be any vibe fron

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Abe- Can a person that is arrested be lynched?

They are removed from the game

[EagleFan]

Not really liking a runaway vote.

[EagleFan]

As of 3082:


Food Distribution: Danny x3 (2750), EagleFan x3 (2757), Lathum x3 (2760), USFLTecmo (2940) (10/10)

Oratory: automatic

Hunting: PurdueBrad (2774) (1/8)

Mission: ntndeacon (2759), Glengoyne (2767), Chief Rum (2773), jeheinz72 (2894), RendeR (2897), Barkeep49 (2899), DaddyTorgo (2908), claphamsa (2910) (8/?) (7/?)


ntndeacon 2 - Glengoyne (2767), PurdueBrad (3045)
claphamsa 6 - Lathum (2771), Chief Rum (2772), Danny (2801), RendeR (2842), USFTecmo (3075), ntndeacon (3080)
Danny 1 - clamphamsa (2777)
DaddyTorgo 1 - Barkeep49 (2779) - doesn't count due to the DT arrest
USFLTecmo 2 - jeheinz72 (3046), EagleFan (3072)



No vote: DaddyTorgo

Bold is for DT being arrested.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

it is odd to see that arrest taking place. did the sympathizers thimk 7 wasnt going to be enough?

I think the wolves wanted to stop things from going boom tonight

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Danny

I think the wolves wanted to stop things from going boom tonight

Throwing out more possibilities.


or...

Wanted to give DT an excuse for why things didn't go boom.

[RendeR]

Its not really a runaway as much as its a lot of attrition votes coming down to clap and someone else and clap has the least in his favor.

[claphamsa]

and we lose nothing when I die... except my fabulous spelling

[claphamsa]

I doubt this stuff will ever matter... but im Italian and my bribe price is 1K

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by RendeR

Its not really a runaway as much as its a lot of attrition votes coming down to clap and someone else and clap has the least in his favor.

As it stands we better hope clap is a sympathiser as I don't see us learning much from this vote (at first glance at least).

I've been wrong before and I know I'll be wrong again.

[claphamsa]

I hoep you all can figure something out of it....

[EagleFan]

I think the wolves are laughing right about now. Hopefully I'm wrong.

[EagleFan]

Of course, with that said. I didn't suspect Jackal either and I see how that turned out.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I think the wolves are laughing right about now. Hopefully I'm wrong.

I think you're probably right. I know you said it earlier and I agree, but I think our other wolves are quite likely in our trusted list and sitting back.

[claphamsa]

I agree!

[Barkeep49]

Vote USFLTecmo

No doubt it's too late, but the lack of anything to save clap suggests, like dubb, we're up the wrong tree.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Lathum

NTN is always quiet, I find nothing out of characture about his play

I agree. I still think his being quiet is a reason to vote for him.

[Danny]

Unvote Clap
Vote USFL

Clap is still in the lead, but lets see if this changes anything.

[EagleFan]

BK, I don't kow if you have to unvote or not.

[Danny]

ntndeacon 2 - Glengoyne (2767), PurdueBrad (3045)
claphamsa 5 - Lathum (2771), Chief Rum (2772), RendeR (2842), USFTecmo (3075), ntndeacon (3080)
Danny 1 - clamphamsa (2777)
DaddyTorgo 1 - Barkeep49 (2779) - doesn't count due to the DT arrest
USFLTecmo 4 - jeheinz72 (3046), EagleFan (3072), Barkeep, Danny

[USFLTecmo]

It seems to be the popular thing to vote-rush me at the end. You do remember my Union Firebrand reveal earlier, right? I'm thinking this wave has at least one wolf in it.