Werewolf XLV - ROME! (Game over, post 3425)

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Ironhead

TOSS PATH12 OFF THE ROCK

Nothing more than a hunch but I felt enough of something to arrest him. I really don't think KWhit is bad, and feel the chances of Path being bad are higher. There really is no proof out there one way or another for either of these two.

I will tell you one thing. If Narcizo is still alive in the morning and no one claims a BG block I am going to start becoming very suspicious of our two lawyers.

That's true, it's been a while since the traitors have offed the 2nd lawyer. Suspicious. Although if we assume Ardentus's sword kill was not bad, the traitors haven't had a kill in two nights, right? How long has Narcizus been lawyer?

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

Autumnus, if you look at the post cited by Mustangus, you'll see that Kayus claims to have been cleared by Coffeus in addition to Abeus.

Right, I think that's what I said above. Abeus duplicating Coffeeus' scan was what was kind of dubious, and in my mind makes it less useful. We never got a chance to find out Coffee's loyalty, or Abe's though.

[Mr. Wednesday]

My problem is that I'm torn on just how much mileage we would be able to get out of any result from tossing KWhit.

[Autumn]

So far I have the vote as 8 for executing Kayus Whitus and 3 for executing Pathus Twelveus, and the rest abstaining. Looks pretty dead around here.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Dola, rather, weighing the probability that a Tarq would be double-vouched as a good guy, vs. whether we actually gain anything by tossing him if he's not a Tarq.

Ultimately, I don't feel like the equation works in our favor.

While I like working with a good-guy path12, and he offers reasonable excuses for lower participation here, I feel like the balance is in favor of tossing him.

Hence,
VOTE EXECUTE Pathus Twelveus

[Autumn]

Well if Kayus Whitus turns up bad, then we've got a pretty clear case on Anxietus it seems. IF he turns up loyal, I agree that doesn't tell us too much. It's just the only lead I've got. Anxietus has had a lot of realy sketchy things going on, and we tried to execute him. So I feel like we have to follow that trail, unless something else turns up.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Autumn

So far I have the vote as 8 for executing Kayus Whitus and 3 for executing Pathus Twelveus, and the rest abstaining.

That's what I have, too.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I'll be back in a little bit to reveal whose services I failed to obtain.

[Autumn]

Here's another reason, I don't think KWhit has even shown up to vote in his execution trial. I'm also wondering why Mustangus hasn't voted.

[st.cronin]

deadline

[st.cronin]

Todays lawsuits (winner underlined):

Ardent sues Anxiety
Ardent sues Grammaticus
Ardent sues Mustang
Ardent sues Autumn
Ardent sues Kwhit
Ardent sues Path12
Ardent sues Ironhead
Ardent sues Barkeep
Ardent sues Narcizo
Ardent sues Passacaglia
Ardent sues Tyrith
Ardent sues Chief Rum
Ardent sues Mr. Wednesday
Grammaticus Atticus sues Barkeepus
Grammaticus Atticus sues Anxieteus
Grammaticus Atticus sues Tyrithus
Grammaticus Atticus sues Pathus
Grammaticus Atticus sues Passus
Grammaticus Atticus sues Ironus Hedus
Grammaticus Atticus sues Mustangus
Grammaticus Atticus sues Mr. Wednesday
Autumn SUES ARDENTUS ENTHUSIASTUS
Autumn SUES KAYUS WHITUS
Autumn SUES ABEUS ANXIETUS
Autumn SUES PATHUS TWELVEUS
Autumn SUES PASCALLIGUS

[st.cronin]

pms coming

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Todays lawsuits (winner underlined):

Ardent sues Anxiety
Ardent sues Grammaticus
Ardent sues Mustang
Ardent sues Autumn
Ardent sues Kwhit
Ardent sues Path12
Ardent sues Ironhead
Ardent sues Barkeep
Ardent sues Narcizo
Ardent sues Passacaglia
Ardent sues Tyrith
Ardent sues Chief Rum
Ardent sues Mr. Wednesday
Grammaticus Atticus sues Barkeepus
Grammaticus Atticus sues Anxieteus
Grammaticus Atticus sues Tyrithus
Grammaticus Atticus sues Pathus
Grammaticus Atticus sues Passus
Grammaticus Atticus sues Ironus Hedus
Grammaticus Atticus sues Mustangus
Grammaticus Atticus sues Mr. Wednesday
Autumn SUES ARDENTUS ENTHUSIASTUS
Autumn SUES KAYUS WHITUS
Autumn SUES ABEUS ANXIETUS
Autumn SUES PATHUS TWELVEUS
Autumn SUES PASCALLIGUS

Holy moly, Ardent is a rich bugger.

[st.cronin]

The initial vote in the treason trial is as follows:



9 - KWhit - Narcizo (2899), Tyrith (2939), Autumn (2940), path12 (2960), Chief Rum (2984), Barkeep (3015), Passacaglia (3024), Grammaticus (3027), Mr. Wednesday (3055)

3 - path12 - Ardent (2924), Anxiety (3017), Ironhead (3047)


Narcizus Lispus asks to be heard - he lays out a most convincing case against Kayus Whitus, and another vote is taken. This time the result is unanimous, and Kayus Whitus is hurled to his death.

[path12]

Huh? Why did Narcizus ask for another vote?

[path12]

Dola, not that I don't appreciate it or anything, but it's kind of a surprise.

[st.cronin]

The following Senator has been murdered:

Misterus Wednesdayus, by sword

The following Senators are in jail:

Autumnus Leavus
Abeus Anxietus

[Grammaticus]

I sue:

Anxietus
Barkeepus
Tyrithus
Pathus
Dadeus Torgous
Passus
Ironus Headus
Mustangus
Mr. Wus

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by path12

Huh? Why did Narcizus ask for another vote?

That was Narcizo working as a prosecutor.

[Autumn]

It just means someone hired him to prosecute Kayus I think. Chief Rum said he hired Narcizus I think. THree vote swing.

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by path12

Huh? Why did Narcizus ask for another vote?

He must have been hired to prosecute.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

The following Senator has been murdered:

Misterus Wednesdayus

The following Senators are in jail:

Autumnus Leavus
Abeus Anxietus

Well, that stinks.

And that stinks.

It doesn't say how he was murdered ...

And Passus, I assume you're the one who arrested me. Um, why?

[Mustang]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Here's another reason, I don't think KWhit has even shown up to vote in his execution trial. I'm also wondering why Mustangus hasn't voted.

I screwed up. I should have voted Path directly (obviously since I voted KWhit innocent...)

[Autumn]

Oh was that you that voted to free KWhit? I was thinking it was the late Mr. W. That makes sense then, sorry, I tried to catch you so you could change that.

[path12]

I feel bad for Mr. W coming in and catching up just to get offed.

[st.cronin]

The wealthiest men in Rome are:

Ardentus Enthusiastus
Grammus Atticus


The following men are extremely wealthy:

Abeus Anxietus
Autumnus Leavus


The following men are moderately wealthy:

Ironus Headus
Mustangus Sallus
Narcizus Lispus
Pathus Twelveus


The following (remaining) Senators are of normal wealth:

Barkeepus Valerius Fortynineus
Chiefus Rumus
Passus Caglius
Tyrus Ithus

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by path12

I feel bad for Mr. W coming in and catching up just to get offed.

Yeah, that's a lot of homework for nothing.

Is it normal to have this much turnover in a big game?

[st.cronin]

The following services are available in the Forum today:

Maximus Maximus, ex-legionnaire
Vitus Avidus, ex-legionnaire
Durus Pimpus, dealer in sexual slaves
Macro Gothicus, barbarian turned citizen for his service during wartime
Balbus Senna, political philosopher from Corsica
Faustus Felix, owner of many horses
Bonus Oceanus, owner of many horses

and, of course

Ardentus Enthusiastus
Narcizus Lispus

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Yeah, that's a lot of homework for nothing.

Is it normal to have this much turnover in a big game?

No. It is disheartening for a gm.

[Autumn]

I hope we made the right execution there, since we lost another one. Any bodyguard activity? It seems the poisoning has just stopped, or we've gotten real lucky.

I'm bummed I got thrown in jail, but I guess in this game everyone's going to take a turn before we get an idea what's going on. I'll be back in the morning to find out why I'm in the slammer, and to see what else we found out last night.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

No. It is disheartening for a gm.

I can imagine, I've run other online roleplaying games and turnover is a killer, and an extra headache chasing down new people. God knows I've spent more time on this than I probably should ahve, so I can't really blame anyone though.

[Mustang]

Originally Posted by Autumn

I hope we made the right execution there, since we lost another one. Any bodyguard activity? It seems the poisoning has just stopped, or we've gotten real lucky.

Doesn't make sense for the Tarqs to stop poisoning. Seems they could win the swordsman and poison someone and kill 2 a night. So, are they being blocked or are body guards doing a good job or what?

[Mustang]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Oh was that you that voted to free KWhit? I was thinking it was the late Mr. W. That makes sense then, sorry, I tried to catch you so you could change that.

Yep.. thought I had my bases covered but, 9-3 turned to 12-0 so.. it would have been 12-1 or 13-0... *shrug*

[st.cronin]

Primer:

Today you must vote for one of the players in jail. You must also elect two new Consuls.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Mustang

Doesn't make sense for the Tarqs to stop poisoning. Seems they could win the swordsman and poison someone and kill 2 a night. So, are they being blocked or are body guards doing a good job or what?

I've been wondering about that myself. I can't imagine that there is not a mechanism that would let you know if the bodyguard you hired blocked an attack......yet I don't recall one person saying that they know their BG's made a block.

But really, I think we've just not done a good job (with exceptions for CR, Narcizo and a few others) in being able to effectively compile all the disparate bits of information that are floating around. I feel if we were all just able to get organized and on the same page we could win this. I blame myself as much as anybody, but I'm trying to get there now.

For example, we need a list of who claimed to hire what each day -- and who actually claimed to get each service each day -- and then what actual affects we saw from that service. I'm sure being able to look at that in a table would help us, and I'm trying to put it together tonight and tomorrow, but it's slow going with 60-odd pages.

We need a lawsuit standings list. We need voting records. We maybe need to track wealth movements (though the hire list should help with that). You get the idea.

There is a TON of information in this game. There may be too much. This game is going to take pure logic to put it together. I don't know that I'm smart enough.

[Abe Sargent]

Well, we're 90 minutes after deadline and no messages, so it doesn;t look like I got the sword killer in order to hold on to it. Ah well.

[Grammaticus]

Maybe Narc should just veto all of the lynches until we run a lawyer scan to hit someone who is showing a negative hit?

[Tyrith]

We need to find out what killed Mr.W and what side KWhit was on,before anything else.

[Mustang]

Maybe the swordsman is a guarantee kill but, poison isn't or there is a chance that they could be caught in the act??

Just trying to think of alternate possibilities...

[path12]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

We need to find out what killed Mr.W and what side KWhit was on,before anything else.

Cronin has said before what killed people. I wonder why he hasn't this time?

[st.cronin]

GM NOTE:

I WOULD LIKE TO RUN TODAY'S DEADLINE 1 HOUR EARLY. NIGHTFALL VOTES WILL BE HONORED.

[path12]

I'm OK with that.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by path12

Cronin has said before what killed people. I wonder why he hasn't this time?

post edited, Mr. W was killed by sword

[Grammaticus]

What is a nightfall vote?

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

What is a nightfall vote?

Example:

EXECUTE PLAYER A
VOTE PLAYERS B AND C FOR CONSUL
NIGHTFALL

"Nightfall" indicates you will not change your vote. If everybody votes nightfall, the deadline can be processed immediately.

[path12]

It's a signal that your vote is final. If there are a majority of nightfall votes then the GM can (depending on their policy) end the day before deadline.

[path12]

Our GM is quick.

[path12]

Dammit. I shoulda put Welcome to Hollywood after that.

[Grammaticus]

I see

[Poli]

Balbus Senna visited me. Boring.

Kwhit was loyal. I guess we lynched him.

Back to catching up.

BTW, I didn't get a service tonight. I wasn't told what to bid on and forgot to do it. Sorry.