06-24-2012, 02:55 AM | #3101 |
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Unvote Crimsonfox
Vote Darth Tks Chubby :-) |
06-24-2012, 02:56 AM | #3102 | |
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Arent the spawn randomly assigned powers like all the starting spawn were? why does it matter about a starting spawn vs a fully grown spawn? |
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06-24-2012, 02:45 PM | #3103 | |
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I was thinking the day before when Shiggles turned up exhausted (not the above which is today) that "wow. The wolves have it really hard this game because their attacks and stuff will make them seem exhausted. I can't believe it's like that. " But now I think differently. They DO have guards against that. Some ability like cunning or something. Maybe they can only disguise their exhaustion at certain times. But they can definitely disguise it. Maybe they never get exhausted at all unless they do SPECIFIC things. The above list proves that I think. All the people that had visible villager night actions came up exhausted and no one else. |
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06-24-2012, 02:53 PM | #3104 | ||
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Here's the Zinto lynch day "yesterday"
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posting all that. I'm glad saldana came to the same conclusion I did at the same time. And his answer to why he was exhausted wasn't "I don't know". It was made up stuff. |
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06-24-2012, 03:03 PM | #3106 |
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Hell, I would have even shared my bed!
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06-24-2012, 03:06 PM | #3107 |
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actually i'd vote for him for the frequent lol-ing alone.
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06-24-2012, 03:08 PM | #3108 |
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Analyzing the whole "Shiggles didn't make a scan" thing to see if I missed anything.
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bk didn't really answer the question. BK did simbo's work on the doctor facilities that day actually do anything? Did he actually do the work? The thing about this day is shiggles never did say he was going to scan someone. Never did say "I submitted orders and BK said it didn't work". And BK didn't make one of his in-characters posts saying "Shiggles goes to examine X but finds the doctor facilities are still broken." I'd still like confirmation on barkeep as to whether Simbo's "work" was actually work and the doctor facilities DID get fixed this day. But it appears Shiggles did not even attempt to examine anymore. |
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06-24-2012, 06:28 PM | #3110 |
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You can determine whether the doctor facilities were fixed or not from information I've already put out there.
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06-24-2012, 06:37 PM | #3111 |
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Vote Counts
Day 1 No votes for execution Day 2 mauboy 8 - chief (759) simbo (784) abe (918) saldana 923 autumn 1027 jag 1034 chubby (1046) Lonestar 1050 simbo 4 - packerfan (761) CrimsonFox (886) Danny 976 Zinto 1003 schmidty 1 - mauboy (894) LSG 1 - dubb (1011) Day 3 Simbo 1 - Danny (1450) Julio 1 - hoops (1701) hoops 2 - CR (1643) CF (1732) dubb 5 - saldana (1486) Abe (1514) Chubby (1636) Simbo (1697) Danny 8 - Shiggles (1624) JAG (1799) LSG (1802) Autumn (1803) brit (1804) dubb (1814) Zinto (1817) Julio (1836) Day 4 Chubby 5 - CF (2134) Abe (2297) saldana (2357) brit (2422) Simbo (2440) Simbo 10 - Shiggles (2336) LSG (2358) CR (2367) Danny (2378) Julio (2413) hoops (2431) Chubby (2432) GE (2439) DV (2443) JAG (2445) Day 5 Zinto 12 - Julio (2607) JAG (2612) saldana (2633) CR (2640) Abe (2717) Shiggles (2736) hoops (2784) LSG (2802) Chubby (2804) brit (2805) Danny (2811) GE (2859) DV (2866) CF 1 - CF (2902) |
06-24-2012, 06:55 PM | #3112 |
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I didn't get any information on how they are distributed. All I know is they allow an additional two players to function as engineers. We can continue to research the medium level which will result in more tools.
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06-24-2012, 08:06 PM | #3113 |
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Continuing for at least one more day sounds like an excellent idea.
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06-24-2012, 08:13 PM | #3114 |
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A player who is not an engineer may submit that they will use one of the tools and will thus get an engineer bonus.
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06-24-2012, 10:15 PM | #3115 |
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Crimson voted for himself?
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06-24-2012, 10:33 PM | #3116 |
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So if we did something like this for Monday:
DV supervises 6 slaves + Chubby supervises 4 slaves to convert power facility 1 = That's 5/5 cycles needed to convert power facility 1 hoops converts + CF converts + Julio converts wearing engineering tool on water plant = 8/7 cycles needed to convert water plant GE converts wearing engineering tool = 2/2 cycles needed to convert science lab We could conceivably lift off after the day deadline (assuming no faking of work or other mischief of course) if we don't mind not having access to a medical facility or phasers for the remainder of the game. I would say if we end up lynching a spawn today and only have 1 left, that might be a worthy trade-off since we won't have any further mutations to worry about so we'd have very good numerical odds on our side plus the science lab scanner / engineering tools to help us close it out. |
06-24-2012, 10:48 PM | #3117 |
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isnt DV the most likely spawn besides shiggles?
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06-24-2012, 11:57 PM | #3118 | |
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Are we going to have water if we adopt this plan to push for the rapid liftoff? |
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06-25-2012, 12:41 AM | #3119 |
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06-25-2012, 12:58 AM | #3120 | |
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I like this plan.
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06-25-2012, 01:31 AM | #3121 |
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Jag, I am in full support of getting off of this planet as quickly as possible. The medical facilities aren't that important anymore with two doctors gone and the third a possible wolf.
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06-25-2012, 01:31 AM | #3122 |
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The last thing we want is more spawnling attempts to undermine whatever kind of circle of trust we can create.
I'll try and get some voting records tonight before I go to sleep or tomorrow. Feeling kind of lazy right now |
06-25-2012, 01:32 AM | #3123 |
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I was throwing Zinto a bone.
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06-25-2012, 01:32 AM | #3124 |
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DON'T be lazy Danny. DO IT! DO IT! DOIT DO IT! DOIT!
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06-25-2012, 01:34 AM | #3125 |
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You could have waited until he was dead, you necro you.
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06-25-2012, 01:35 AM | #3126 |
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I am drunk on Italian food and diet vanilla coke
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06-25-2012, 01:37 AM | #3127 |
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06-25-2012, 01:37 AM | #3128 |
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Holy crap a hair from my moustache just got caught in the coke can, damn that hurt.
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06-25-2012, 01:37 AM | #3129 |
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ouch I hate that!
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06-25-2012, 01:41 AM | #3130 |
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You watch Doctor Who? I'm watching them on netflix and am addicted. Just finished season 2.
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06-25-2012, 01:42 AM | #3131 |
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of COURSE I watch it! It is awesome! are you talking the REAL season 2 from the 60's? Or the new ones with Christopher eccleston
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06-25-2012, 01:43 AM | #3132 |
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The new ones. Only ones on Netflix. Eccleston was season 1. Season 2-5 is David Tennant.
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06-25-2012, 01:47 AM | #3133 |
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You need to watch Pertwee, Tom Baker and Davison.
If you really like Tennant (and who doesn't), you must watch Tom Baker. He really made the series and is no doubt who influenced Tennant with his performance. |
06-25-2012, 01:50 AM | #3134 |
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Yeah, those seasons aren't on netflix as far as I can tell
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06-25-2012, 03:35 AM | #3135 |
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Ok defense time. For starters, i have taken no night actions this game, i dont have any night action points.
Point two. I was "Unable to find a bed to sleep in" for the night i was exhausted. Im not sure WHY, but thats the reason why i was exhausted. Said that before, you omitted it. Ok for this cunning stuff, your gonna have to link me some combos, not throw out some speculations on what you believe. cause being LOCKED IN THE BRIG would be a nice alliby for not being able to kill anyone. Did anyone check if i was still IN the brig? i didnt move, and i guess if you check the HQ cameras, i would be still in there eh? You find a spawn where it can kill two people and not be exhausted, otherwise, silencio because its nearing lunacy and paranoia. I would like to point out that at least 3 times that day the medical facilities got fixed, i asked if i could scan, and barkeep said one doctor, which you posted. it says they could be used TOMORROW. not that day. so it means im SOL. I sat on an action point because they didnt even take me on a mission for water and stuff that day. that was the night where i didnt get a bed, and zinto took us in the morning so i was unable to scan anyone. so yes, i have been unable to scan anyone since ive been a doctor. and of course the facilities were broke, simbo wouldnt fix them, he was spawn. get your head in the game and quit tryin to blackball me. the only "loose end" in my case is that stupid night where i couldnt find a bed, which ive PMed barkeep about, and am trying to find out any sort of details on that night that i can use to prove my innocence. JAG, is there any sort of camera feed that could be used to track me around the compound that night? maybe some security cameras? not like i was hiding, should be public areas or something. would be interesting to know. Now. ill check this thread tomorrow morning and afternoon, but im seein the avengers again at 3, and dinner afterwords, so ill make sure to get my scan orders in early. If im out of the brig at that point. If not, then my vote will stand and ill just sit and draw more protective runes all over my cell. its starting to look like an egyptian temple in here there are so many pictographs on the walls. |
06-25-2012, 03:37 AM | #3136 |
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oh, and crimsonfox. L O L :-P
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Okay Barkeep This is the information I found. You said "tomorrow". Okay guy can you guys figurethis out? I did my work that day and barkeep said in thread I did work. Saldana scanned that day. Then jag asked his question. BK's answer included the word "tomorrow". We were told Simbo did more work that day and the next morning (shown above) shows it fixed. So that means Simbo's work DID count and it WAS fixed. Since my fix allowed saldana to scan, does anyone else see why simbo's fix shouldn't let shiggles scan? BK there are no rules listed about the realtime stuff of any cutoffs. Is there a reason that a after a certain time someone's fixes won't apply the same day but the next day? Anyone else find an explanation for this? Oh yeah, all of shiggles' comments of that day are there too just for analysis. |
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06-25-2012, 05:06 AM | #3138 |
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There is nothing in the rules or information about "not finding a bed" unless someone can find something? BK never put anything in thread in a little storyblurb about it either.
Nothing is mentioned about the dr's office except that simbo did more work, that it would be "ready tomorrow" which still awaits explanation, and that the medbay was indeed completely working that next morning. I"m only anylizing shiggles because both things he has said aren't in the rules and BK has said nothing to confirm it. Shiggles did not make a scan. It was never announced that he tried and wasn't able. Shiggles was Exhausted with no telling us he was doing anything. saldana (confirmed good) said doctors get no night actions. Shiggles said the reason was he couldn't find a bed. (Nothing in rules or bk posts say anything like that. There was a bed available. That's what I'm working with. Not attacking. Just trying to analyze this. And the statments made I have to vote shiggles. |
06-25-2012, 05:08 AM | #3139 |
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Still need to do my votey thing, but one thing I want to look back at is who ZInto chose to send on his mission on Friday. At the time I thought it was likely he chose one fellow or soon to be spawn to go out there in order to mix things up.
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06-25-2012, 05:08 AM | #3140 |
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Only other people I suspect based on just a couple weird responses.
Britrock - had a couple very defensive comments but he has done work for us every night. Without him we would not have got engineering tools and spawn detector LSG - Very reserved. Not pointing fingers. Shiggles - Has mentioned wanting to vote for known wolves a lot. This is nothing extremely strong. But indeed possible coaching by others. That post about wanting to vote Zinto and SImbo. |
06-25-2012, 05:10 AM | #3141 | |
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Found this while looking for mission. I think it's likely a convert came from this list of people. |
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06-25-2012, 05:11 AM | #3142 |
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"Hoops, Crimson, Saldana, and Shigggles" were the ones sent on the mission
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06-25-2012, 05:13 AM | #3143 |
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If it were me, i likely would have included one spawn on that mission somewhere cause sending out four villagers might be bad.
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06-25-2012, 06:22 AM | #3144 | |
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I think we can remove Saldana from this list. Something I've heard a couple of times, and I can't quite recall the logic why, is that Crimson cannot be starting Spawn. Can someone map that out for me, just to put my paranoid mind at ease? |
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06-25-2012, 06:33 AM | #3145 |
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Glad you guys are here. Hoops, Danny, Jag, etc please let me know what you think of all this analysis. I really thought it was a slam dunk. And there seem to be a couple big holes in our knowledge of what was going on.
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We don't really have a choice as we have to use an engineer to lead slaves, only DV and CF are left for that. We can't use the engineering tools to have someone supervise slaves for conversion (at least that's my understanding). Quote:
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Just an FYI, on that list, CF was never scanned, it was actually dubb day 3. |
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06-25-2012, 06:41 AM | #3147 |
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And if DV fakes his work, we'll vote him out the following day. There aren't many spawn left, so that's a big risk for them to take at this point.
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06-25-2012, 06:44 AM | #3148 | |
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DV has not done any work at night until last night when we didn't really want him to. He hasn't really been checking in this game at all with what he's doing. So very possible wolf. |
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06-25-2012, 06:45 AM | #3149 | |
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Yes I was the one that pointed out that it was dubb and not me. As for tools, can we get a description? Are the tools strictly for repair? If it was said already, sorry. |
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06-25-2012, 06:47 AM | #3150 |
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CF, the whole 'Shiggles didn't make a scan' argument really seems lacking to me. If he's a spawn, I can't imagine why he wouldn't want to fake his duties and 'clear' people for us rather than out himself in such an obvious way. We saw an example of what happened when Simbo faked his work the day he did it, Barkeep writes it up exactly like he were a regular guy performing his duties.
If you want to argue his being exhausted that other night, yeah, I don't have an explanation for that. |
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