The Trump Presidency – 2016

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Wonder if Kyle Rittenhouse gets a pardon.

I doubt he could afford one

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Wonder if Kyle Rittenhouse gets a pardon.

Probably not.

In the wake of President Donald Trump presidential pardon spree for political allies and the well-connected on Tuesday evening, social media users began speculating about the possibility that the president would also be granting clemency to Kyle Rittenhouse, the Illinois teen drove across state lines in August and killed two men in Kenosha, Wisconsin. As several attorneys went on to point out on Twitter, however, the presidential pardon power extends only to federal crimes and the 17-year-old Rittenhouse does not face federal charges.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

I doubt he could afford one

Hah, this is a good one.

[Lathum]

derp- thats right

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Assange is not expected to get a pardon per the article. (It may have changed/updated though).

I am okay with Assange spending the rest of his life hiding in an embassy (or wherever is he now). I know there was something about a minor (?) but personally, it would have been fascinating for it to play out in US courts re: wiki leaks and 1A argument.

Earlier version did say he was expected, that paragraph has changed.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Wonder if Kyle Rittenhouse gets a pardon.

he probably gets a penisswinging display pardon with trump not realizing that it can't help him.

[Ghost Econ]

I see Stephen Miller released his race bating term paper on MLK day.

[Ghost Econ]

Originally Posted by molson

Even if servers make $20/hour, people would still tip and ruin it. It's too engrained in culture.

It's more likely to spread further into other services.

I mean, I went to Thailand and wasn't expected to tip and it was super easy not to tip.

[whomario]

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ

I see Stephen Miller released his race bating term paper on MLK day.

A term paper usually comes with a bibliography and foot/endnotes. This is essentially a elaborate right wing blog post. Which is where a lot of the framework and narratives originate.

The whole list of participants gets creepier the closer you look. And the whole "no one sided history ! Except the original version of course, because that's the true one and truth only has one side" narrative is just insane.

[JediKooter]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Of course, California among many other states already have $13-14 dollars minimum wage. Anybody there have a report of large restaurant closing (before covid)? Was the food at McDonald's too expensive to afford?
Most resurants in my area, including McDonald's are offering $10-12 dollars an hour to start.

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Nope, all was pretty normal up until covid. No dogs and cats raining from the sky or anything like that as well.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ

I mean, I went to Thailand and wasn't expected to tip and it was super easy not to tip.

FWIW, whenever I go to Asia, I tip regardless - restaurants, tour guides, tuk-tuk drivers etc. Your $ goes a way lot further than in Europe.

I always have to go google it to see if it's "appropriate" or "okay" or an "insult" (e.g. Japan) for a particular country.

[molson]

Originally Posted by Edward64

FWIW, whenever I go to Asia, I tip regardless - restaurants, tour guides, tuk-tuk drivers etc. Your $ goes a way lot further than in Europe.

I always have to go google it to see if it's "appropriate" or "okay" or an "insult" (e.g. Japan) for a particular country.

Ya, I've learned it's just easier to tip then stress over whether to.

I try very much in my travels to embrace and respect the local customs with this one exception - I'm going to be a typical idiot American and give people money when don't have to. I'm fine with that, especially in poorer countries.

Except Japan. I was told not to do it in Japan. Do you know of any others where it should be avoided so as not to offend?

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by molson

Ya, I've learned it's just easier to tip then stress over whether to.

I try very much in my travels to embrace and respect the local customs with this one exception - I'm going to be a typical idiot American and give people money when don't have to. I'm fine with that, especially in poorer countries.

Except Japan. I was told not to do it in Japan. Do you know of any others where it should be avoided so as not to offend?

I was told one drawback to doing it elsewhere is it leads to staff giving better treatment to tourists than locals.

[NobodyHere]

I just avoid situations where I'm expected to tip. It's like a stealth guilty tax.

[MrBug708]

Anyone catch this?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-conten...nal-Report.pdf

[bhlloy]

That’s a fun read knowing what happened at the Capitol. I’m surprised they didn’t manage to get a paragraph in there about the right way the founding fathers intended us to vote.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by Edward64

FWIW, whenever I go to Asia, I tip regardless - restaurants, tour guides, tuk-tuk drivers etc. Your $ goes a way lot further than in Europe.

I always have to go google it to see if it's "appropriate" or "okay" or an "insult" (e.g. Japan) for a particular country.

South Korea as well.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

I just avoid situations where I'm expected to tip. It's like a stealth guilty tax.

so you cook your own meals and maybe get take out then?

[whomario]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Anyone catch this?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-conten...nal-Report.pdf

Yeah, that's what was mentioned above as "Millers term paper". Was too lazy to post the link.

It's an atrocity and in combination with that "garden of statues" declaration speaks volumes to a certain group of peoples understanding of History as sth that needs to be enshrined as unchanging based on a Status Quo agreed from above. With the intent to try and entertain just enough ideas of "good opposition" to create the illusion of neutrality.
And to do that you paint the "other side" in a way that's just very typical of right wing narratives. And shows a profound lack of understanding or lots of ignorance/strategy when it comes to the actual grievances.

[whomario]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

That’s a fun read knowing what happened at the Capitol. I’m surprised they didn’t manage to get a paragraph in there about the right way the founding fathers intended us to vote.

There has to be an opening about opposition to the Stamp Act and propping up the Postal Service with more mail voting. Then again, god kinda did send Moses a letter and letters feature prominently in the bible. So maybe they were conflicted here.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by molson

Ya, I've learned it's just easier to tip then stress over whether to.

I try very much in my travels to embrace and respect the local customs with this one exception - I'm going to be a typical idiot American and give people money when don't have to. I'm fine with that, especially in poorer countries.

Except Japan. I was told not to do it in Japan. Do you know of any others where it should be avoided so as not to offend?

When I travel, I google on "tipping in (country)".

But here is a general article

https://www.lonelyplanet.com/article...ound-the-world

[miked]

Originally Posted by Edward64

FWIW, whenever I go to Asia, I tip regardless - restaurants, tour guides, tuk-tuk drivers etc. Your $ goes a way lot further than in Europe.

I always have to go google it to see if it's "appropriate" or "okay" or an "insult" (e.g. Japan) for a particular country.

I went to a restaurant in Beijing with a co-worker and she tried to tip the server. She followed us out and walked halfway down the block trying to give it back to us. Our tour guide for the great wall enjoyed the tip though.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Anyone catch this?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-conten...nal-Report.pdf

Umm, that is interesting. Now I know the other side's perspective I guess.

[albionmoonlight]

As I saw someone remark the other night, that "essay" has strong "Webster's Dictionary defines 'American' as . . . " vibes.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by stevew

Seems fairly straightforward why Lil Wayne backed Trump. Much like all of the other greaseballs associated with this administration, he needs a federal pardon.

https://www.eonline.com/ca/news/1209...and-ammunition

If the reports are correct, I want to make sure stevew gets full credit.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

so you cook your own meals and maybe get take out then?

yup.

For example today I'm expecting to get a shipment from HomeChef.

[JPhillips]

Pompeo takes the opportunity to tweet that multiculturalism is not who America is.

White nationalism till the end.

[PilotMan]

I mean the Puritans, by literal definition, weren't exactly multi-culturalists. One thing I've learned is that the definition of what makes "America" is malleable and has been fought over for centuries.

[whomario]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

As I saw someone remark the other night, that "essay" has strong "Webster's Dictionary defines 'American' as . . . " vibes.

I liked Booker in an unrelated Interview calling this whole greater strategy/leaning a tendency to, instead of confronting shitty stuff in ones history and acounting for it (as every nation had to do and most did at some point*), create "Disneyland versions of america".

*and not alway immediately, this CAN happen even after X years or decades or even centuries have passed. Like how Germany failed to confront it after WWII apart from the bare minimum (as 'forced' by the allies) but then under pressure from a younger generation (and this wasn't always pretty) made big strides eventually. Or how New Zealand is at least trying to atone for past grievances and resulting structural and cultural issues with regard to the Maori population.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

I mean the Puritans, by literal definition, weren't exactly multi-culturalists. One thing I've learned is that the definition of what makes "America" is malleable and has been fought over for centuries.

Even if you want to start at 1620 you also have to include the native populations, the Spanish, the Dutch, and enslaved Africans.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Pompeo takes the opportunity to tweet that multiculturalism is not who America is.

White nationalism till the end.

Also this

There are consequences for interfering in the democratic process. Starting today, we are imposing visa restrictions on those involved in election interference in Tanzania. We remain committed to working together to advance democracy and mutual prosperity for both our countries.

— Secretary Pompeo (@SecPompeo) January 19, 2021

[Ben E Lou]

The last sentence of this article might be the perfect epitaph for the Trump Presidency.

Trump supporter shocked after president commutes sentence of man who swindled him out of his life savings - Raw Story - Celebrating 16 Years of Independent Journalism

Pugmire also said that the president's decision to commute the fraudster's sentence had shaken his faith in whether Trump has been truthful with his supporters.

"I had been trying to forget all this, but it makes you wonder, even being a Trump supporter, about his honesty," he said.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

The last sentence of this article might be the perfect epitaph for the Trump Presidency.

Trump supporter shocked after president commutes sentence of man who swindled him out of his life savings - Raw Story - Celebrating 16 Years of Independent Journalism

Yep that all folks

[sterlingice]

r/LeopardsAteMyFace

SI

[cuervo72]

Yeah, that's getting reposted.

[QuikSand]

I Prosecuted Robert Bales. He Should Never Receive a Pardon | Military.com

oh no reason

[Thomkal]

Sidney Powell drops her lawsuit to overturn Georgia's election 24 hours before Biden takes over. I really hope she represents her self in the Dominion Voting machines lawsuit

[GrantDawg]

As we leave the Trump presidency, this thread has over 31k posts. That is a huge number in 4 years on a message board with an ever shrinking number of posters. One thing Trump did. He definitely kept people talking.

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[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

As we leave the Trump presidency, this thread has over 31k posts. That is a huge number in 4 years on a message board with an ever shrinking number of posters. One thing Trump did. He definitely kept people talking.

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And a whole fifth of some forumites' posts.

[albionmoonlight]

Can we get another 31k for his second term?

#QforLife

[GrantDawg]

How about a new political party? https://twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/...045134851?s=19

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[CrimsonFox]

Here is a complete catelogued and recorded history of this administration. I warn you it is difficult to get through without shouting or gritting your teeth. I recommend excessive beverage and emotional support cookies

Lest We Forget the Horrors: A Catalog of Trump’s Worst Cruelties, Collusions, Corruptions, and Crimes: The Complete Listing (So Far): Atrocities 1-1,053 - McSweeney’s Internet Tendency

[GrantDawg]

I want this Patriot party to happen. It will hurt the GOP so much, but leave them both pretty weak. Of course, it also could leave me wishing I hadn't asked for it, but less likely.

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[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

I want this Patriot party to happen. It will hurt the GOP so much, but leave them both pretty weak. Of course, it also could leave me wishing I hadn't asked for it, but less likely.

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I am not sure about it hurting the GOP necessarily just because I am not sure about the viability of any third party in the U.S. However, I would like to see the platform.

[GrantDawg]

The platform will be whatever Trump says.

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[GrantDawg]

Dola: a Trump party would pull at least 15%. Heck, in Georgia it might actually outdraw the GOP.

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[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

How about a new political party? https://twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/...045134851?s=19

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One of the hardest things about fighting Al-Qaeda was that they had no land, and they had no country. There was no easy place with which to wage war. ISIS was itself very difficult to deal with until they declared their location, as in their caliphate. The battle could then be fought in a place, against them. I bring this up, because this would be the very best thing for both major parties. It defines the support, breaks it away from the main political parties, and allows the fight against them and their craziness to be fought more cleanly. As long as they are undefined, and existing within the R party, they will both exist as a cancer, and as a symbiotic parasite able to survive and live off of it.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Here is a complete catelogued and recorded history of this administration. I warn you it is difficult to get through without shouting or gritting your teeth. I recommend excessive beverage and emotional support cookies

Lest We Forget the Horrors: A Catalog of Trump’s Worst Cruelties, Collusions, Corruptions, and Crimes: The Complete Listing (So Far): Atrocities 1-1,053 - McSweeney’s Internet Tendency

The fact that he got elected after all the shit he pulled on the campaign trail, in addition to being a total moron, shows just how morally bankrupt a huge portion of our country is.

[Edward64]

I think a Trump Patriot Party will be fascinating in how it impacts US politics for the next 4-8-12 years. Overall, it will help the Dems and hurt the GOP.

However, I do think the party will quickly lose steam once Trump is gone into the dirt. I personally don't see Ivanka or Jr. having the cult-like-following that Trump has.

[Thomkal]

trump and Melania leave the White House for the last time at 8 am tomorrow morning.