2014 FIFA World Cup - Page 64

Abe Sargent · 07-08-2014, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Almost 6-0.

Now it is....

Bobble · 07-08-2014, 04:25 PM

Sechs

SirFozzie · 07-08-2014, 04:28 PM

Always Look on the Bright Side of Life - Monty Python's Life of Brian - YouTube

Hey Brazil, look on the bright side of life...

Arles · 07-08-2014, 04:28 PM

Jeez, this is beyond embarrassing. At this point, you just have to hope that Rio doesn't go up in flames.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-08-2014, 04:31 PM

Go for two, put 'em away.

Abe Sargent · 07-08-2014, 04:34 PM

Dang - no end to teh scoring now

Abe Sargent · 07-08-2014, 04:35 PM

This is the biggest win opf any team at this World Cup, right

AlexB · 07-08-2014, 04:35 PM

Brazil! It's just like watching Brazil, it's just like watching Brazil...

ColtCrazy · 07-08-2014, 04:36 PM

Wow. Just….wow. I got a fussy kid down for a nap and ended up snoozing myself. Woke up to 5-0. And now two more goals? 7??????? Maybe against San Marino but Brazil???

MIJB#19 · 07-08-2014, 04:36 PM

Will they go for 10?

The previous highest score in a semi final was 6-1:
1930 Argentina 6-1 USA
1930 Uruguay 6-1 Yugoslavia
1954 West Germany 6-1 Austria

Galaxy · 07-08-2014, 04:37 PM

Just wait until the World Cup goes to Qatar and Qatar gets to play against Germany...

kingfc22 · 07-08-2014, 04:38 PM

So when do the corruption investigations begin for throwing a match?

ColtCrazy · 07-08-2014, 04:38 PM

Went to wikipedia to look up worst defeats in World Cup history. Someone has already edited the page to put Germany in there (although it's not listed right and will get deleted).

kingfc22 · 07-08-2014, 04:40 PM

And now the fans are cheering for Germany. Who do they think they are? Bandwagon Miami Heat fans?

Arles · 07-08-2014, 04:41 PM

I feel like Brazil would have been better off with this guy as the captain:

ColtCrazy · 07-08-2014, 04:42 PM

Germany scored 7 goals in the three group games combined.

AlexB · 07-08-2014, 04:42 PM

Wonder if Scolari regrets saying they had one hand on the cup?

MIJB#19 · 07-08-2014, 04:42 PM

If this 7-0 score stands, this game joins the top10 biggest wins in World Cup history:
1982 Hungary 10-1 El Salvador
1954 Hungary 9-0 South Korea
1974 Yugoslavia 9-0 Zaire
1938 Sweden 8-0 Cuba
1950 Uruguay 8-0 Bolivia
2002 Germany 8-0 Saudi Arabia
1954 Turkey 7-0 South Korea
1954 Uruguay 7-0 Scotland
1974 Poland 7-0 Haiti
2010 Portugal 7-0 North Korea

All but one of these games were group stage games. Sweden-Cuba was a quarter-final.

EagleFan · 07-08-2014, 04:43 PM

Gotta give the fans credit. They are just trying to entertain themselves now. Loved the oles.

MIJB#19 · 07-08-2014, 04:46 PM

Heh, offside goal.

Abe Sargent · 07-08-2014, 04:46 PM

The re-venge has begun! Just need another 70minutes or so...

tucker rocky · 07-08-2014, 04:47 PM

A tiny consolation goal for Brazil.

Abe Sargent · 07-08-2014, 04:48 PM

The Brazilian emo-gasm has begun

MIJB#19 · 07-08-2014, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Gotta give the fans credit. They are just trying to entertain themselves now. Loved the oles.

Definitely. Nearly everywhere else in the world, a lot of fans would have left the stadium at the 80th minute.

bulletsponge · 07-08-2014, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB

Wonder if Scolari regrets saying they had one hand on the cup?

what wasnt translated was it was the cup used in the "2 girls 1 cup" video he was referring too

ColtCrazy · 07-08-2014, 04:54 PM

Yeah, nothing even remotely like this has happened so late in the World Cup. Guessing Oscar becomes a symbol for national pride with his goal to give the Brazilians something…anything.

Abe Sargent · 07-08-2014, 04:57 PM

Words continue to elude me

Critch · 07-08-2014, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB

Wonder if Scolari regrets saying they had one hand on the cup?

He's going to regret telling the press that if they didnt like what he was doing they could go to hell. The press will have their knives out.

Grover · 07-08-2014, 05:12 PM

Germany scored like a Brazilian goals tonight.

albionmoonlight · 07-08-2014, 05:29 PM

The Onion's Tweet: "Impoverished country clinging to soccer probably going to take this well."

JonInMiddleGA · 07-08-2014, 05:49 PM

This won't be the first time that thousands of Germans will have to lie low in Brazil for a while for their own safety.
— Ricky Gervais (@rickygervais) July 8, 2014

Alf · 07-08-2014, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

So do we think Brazil just cratered since Neymar's not on? Or Thiago Silva being gone?

Because I mean...Germany hasn't looked THIS good all tournament or anything.

Not to say they're not playing great offensively, but I mean...it looks like Brazil's not even on the pitch.

Germany has improved dramatically since Lahm moved back to his natural wingback position. You can check my posts in this thread and you will notice me saying that when Lahm had to move to wingback in the Algeria-Germany game.

They ARE impressive. Against France, I never ever thought that we (France could win).

whomario · 07-08-2014, 06:12 PM

Brazil simply cracked under the pressure and i am not sure you can blame them. I don´t think there ever has been such an impossible mix of soccer-related and socially-related pressure on a host team. And Silva and Neymar took on the brunt of this pressure and deflected it off the team in different ways. One as the teams captain, the other as the Golden Boy.

On the other hand, the german team took those struggles and punished the brazilian team for their weakness. They were decisive in their attacking from the first minute, they looked for cracks in the defense and attacked those with a purpose. Lots of overlaps, lots of rotation up front, lots of early pressure on the passed and his recipients.

All the old guard are taking responsibility (Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Klose) and guys like Hummels, Kroos and Müller are playing as good as anybody at their position.

I am absolutely excited for Sunday, there is nothing bigger for me as a sports fan than a WC final.

Dutch · 07-08-2014, 06:14 PM

This was unbelievable. I mean, for Germany to do this to Saudi Arabia is one thing, but to do it to Brazil...in Brazil...during the semi-finals of the World Cup is pretty epic. They will talk about this one for decades.

bhlloy · 07-08-2014, 07:38 PM

That was amazing. I'm trying to think of a live sport event that was that stunning and had so much of an impact on the sport

Marc Vaughan · 07-08-2014, 07:45 PM

Did not see that coming - amazing display by Germany and Brazil went totally to pieces for around 25 minutes ...

Butter · 07-08-2014, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22

So when do the corruption investigations begin for throwing a match?

Surprised it took this long to come up. No one thinks this match was rigged? Brazil and its players are too proud for that? I'm not so sure.

bhlloy · 07-08-2014, 07:55 PM

In the semi finals of the World Cup? Yeah, I don't buy that for a second. Unless all the Brazilian players families were taken hostage yesterday and we just haven't heard of it yet

ISiddiqui · 07-08-2014, 07:56 PM

This is the most shocking result I've ever witnessed in sport. Just... whoa.

It's like Brazil was a high school team in the back - no challenging the offense, having the ball passed around in the 18.

Galaxy · 07-08-2014, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch

This was unbelievable. I mean, for Germany to do this to Saudi Arabia is one thing, but to do it to Brazil...in Brazil...during the semi-finals of the World Cup is pretty epic. They will talk about this one for decades.

At least it's better than this World Cup being remember for the biting incident.

bbgunn · 07-08-2014, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Surprised it took this long to come up. No one thinks this match was rigged? Brazil and its players are too proud for that? I'm not so sure.

Definitely rigged. We already know the Cameroon-Croatia game was rigged.

Marc Vaughan · 07-09-2014, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Surprised it took this long to come up. No one thinks this match was rigged? Brazil and its players are too proud for that? I'm not so sure.

I don't think it was rigged, apart from anything else all the Brazilian players are multi-millionaires already, do you really think they need the money considering the likely hassle they and their families are likely to get after that defeat?

(bear in mind that Football is taken quite passionately in Brazil ...)

AlexB · 07-09-2014, 01:36 AM

I'm assuming that it was a tongue in cheek comment: zero chance of it actually being rigged. Just a culmination of what we have seen so far:

Brazil over invested in the emotion of their home WC, as evidenced by their tears and reaction to the anthems, against a German side known for calmness, efficiency - the polar opposite

At the same time no Neymar, no Thiago Silva, and the leader was David Silva who is again a wild spirit, not the level headed attitude required

And Brazil not really in form, while Germany played a blinder

Perfect storm, that was all

whomario · 07-09-2014, 01:38 AM

This is like saying the canada hockey Team could be bought at the vancouver olympics. Multi millionairs with a shot at god-status in their home country (and a collective hundreds of mio in endorsements waiting, just as a bonus)

thesloppy · 07-09-2014, 05:34 AM

Heck, why wouldn't you spend billions to bid/bribe/maneuver your way through the years of WC selection process, build a bunch of stadiums in your poor-ass country, and get your populace all fired up, in order to take a historically humiliating dive to Germany, at home in the semi-finals? It just makes too much sense.

jaygr · 07-09-2014, 06:03 AM

A classic long con

rowech · 07-09-2014, 06:14 AM

You might rig to lose, but you would never rig to be humiliated like that.

tucker rocky · 07-09-2014, 06:18 AM

Toddzilla · 07-09-2014, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Warhammer

So if this happened in FM, people would claim it was a bug, right?

This didn't get the credit it deserves - well played, good sir.

bbgunn · 07-09-2014, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB

I'm assuming that it was a tongue in cheek comment: zero chance of it actually being rigged. Just a culmination of what we have seen so far:

Brazil over invested in the emotion of their home WC, as evidenced by their tears and reaction to the anthems, against a German side known for calmness, efficiency - the polar opposite

Whoa, whoa, whoa. So you're saying that Brazil was a bunch of wimps and Germany was a group of robots?

I have a hard time believing that even this Brazil team, which undoubtedly is not as good as the 1994-2002 version, is so mentally weak that they would just collapse after a goal in the 11th minute. We're talking about one of the most passionate soccer nations in the world.

Can you imagine the Heat losing LeBron and Battier, and going out and losing to the Spurs in the Finals 132-52? In Miami? Didn't think so.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB

At the same time no Neymar, no Thiago Silva, and the leader was David Silva who is again a wild spirit, not the level headed attitude required

Neymar doesn't play defense. And even with no Thiago Silva, and with David Luis as captain, the defense was supposed to be the stronger part of this Brazil team. How much difference does a captain really make? It's not cricket.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB

And Brazil not really in form

Brazil beat a really, really good Colombia team. Not in form?

Definitely some of the players were paid off. The last five or six goals, it looked like only Julio Cesar was giving any effort to stop those goals. The Brazilian back line were standing around doing nothing, like policemen in New Orleans.

You want to tell me that Germany is that good? They couldn't even beat Ghana! They should have pasted the U.S. 4-0 or 5-0.

07-08-2014, 04:28 PM	#3153
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Always Look on the Bright Side of Life - Monty Python's Life of Brian - YouTube Hey Brazil, look on the bright side of life... __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

07-08-2014, 04:28 PM	#3154
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Jeez, this is beyond embarrassing. At this point, you just have to hope that Rio doesn't go up in flames. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

07-08-2014, 04:31 PM	#3155
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Go for two, put 'em away. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

07-08-2014, 04:34 PM	#3156
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Dang - no end to teh scoring now __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

07-08-2014, 04:35 PM	#3157
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	This is the biggest win opf any team at this World Cup, right __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

07-08-2014, 04:25 PM	#3152
Bobble College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: High and outside	Sechs

07-08-2014, 04:35 PM	#3158
AlexB Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	Brazil! It's just like watching Brazil, it's just like watching Brazil... __________________ 'A song is a beautiful lie', Idlewild, Self Healer. When you're smiling, the whole world smiles with you. Sports! Last edited by AlexB : 07-08-2014 at 04:36 PM.

07-08-2014, 04:36 PM	#3159
ColtCrazy College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midwest	Wow. Just….wow. I got a fussy kid down for a nap and ended up snoozing myself. Woke up to 5-0. And now two more goals? 7??????? Maybe against San Marino but Brazil??? __________________ The Field Generals and Statis Pro Basketball Super League

07-08-2014, 04:36 PM	#3160
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	Will they go for 10? The previous highest score in a semi final was 6-1: 1930 Argentina 6-1 USA 1930 Uruguay 6-1 Yugoslavia 1954 West Germany 6-1 Austria __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

07-08-2014, 04:37 PM	#3161
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Just wait until the World Cup goes to Qatar and Qatar gets to play against Germany...

07-08-2014, 04:38 PM	#3162
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	So when do the corruption investigations begin for throwing a match? __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-08-2014, 04:38 PM	#3163
ColtCrazy College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midwest	Went to wikipedia to look up worst defeats in World Cup history. Someone has already edited the page to put Germany in there (although it's not listed right and will get deleted). __________________ The Field Generals and Statis Pro Basketball Super League

07-08-2014, 04:40 PM	#3164
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	And now the fans are cheering for Germany. Who do they think they are? Bandwagon Miami Heat fans? __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-08-2014, 04:41 PM	#3165
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	I feel like Brazil would have been better off with this guy as the captain: __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

07-08-2014, 04:42 PM	#3166
ColtCrazy College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midwest	Germany scored 7 goals in the three group games combined. __________________ The Field Generals and Statis Pro Basketball Super League

07-08-2014, 04:42 PM	#3167
AlexB Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	Wonder if Scolari regrets saying they had one hand on the cup? __________________ 'A song is a beautiful lie', Idlewild, Self Healer. When you're smiling, the whole world smiles with you. Sports!

07-08-2014, 04:42 PM	#3168
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	If this 7-0 score stands, this game joins the top10 biggest wins in World Cup history: 1982 Hungary 10-1 El Salvador 1954 Hungary 9-0 South Korea 1974 Yugoslavia 9-0 Zaire 1938 Sweden 8-0 Cuba 1950 Uruguay 8-0 Bolivia 2002 Germany 8-0 Saudi Arabia 1954 Turkey 7-0 South Korea 1954 Uruguay 7-0 Scotland 1974 Poland 7-0 Haiti 2010 Portugal 7-0 North Korea All but one of these games were group stage games. Sweden-Cuba was a quarter-final. __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail Last edited by MIJB#19 : 07-08-2014 at 04:43 PM.

07-08-2014, 04:43 PM	#3169
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Gotta give the fans credit. They are just trying to entertain themselves now. Loved the oles. __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

07-08-2014, 04:46 PM	#3170
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	Heh, offside goal. __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

07-08-2014, 04:46 PM	#3171
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	The re-venge has begun! Just need another 70minutes or so... __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

07-08-2014, 04:47 PM	#3172
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	A tiny consolation goal for Brazil.

07-08-2014, 04:48 PM	#3173
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	The Brazilian emo-gasm has begun __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

07-08-2014, 04:54 PM	#3176
ColtCrazy College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midwest	Yeah, nothing even remotely like this has happened so late in the World Cup. Guessing Oscar becomes a symbol for national pride with his goal to give the Brazilians something…anything. __________________ The Field Generals and Statis Pro Basketball Super League

07-08-2014, 04:57 PM	#3177
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Words continue to elude me __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

07-08-2014, 05:12 PM	#3179
Grover Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Lisboa, ME	Germany scored like a Brazilian goals tonight. __________________ Come On You Irons! West Ham United \| Philadelphia Flyers \| Cincinnati Bengals \| Kansas City Royals FOFC Greatest Band Draft Runner Up FOFC Movie Remake Draft Winner FOFC Movie Comedy Draft Winner

07-08-2014, 05:29 PM	#3180
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	The Onion's Tweet: "Impoverished country clinging to soccer probably going to take this well."

07-08-2014, 05:49 PM	#3181
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	This won't be the first time that thousands of Germans will have to lie low in Brazil for a while for their own safety. — Ricky Gervais (@rickygervais) July 8, 2014 __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

07-08-2014, 06:12 PM	#3183
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	Brazil simply cracked under the pressure and i am not sure you can blame them. I don´t think there ever has been such an impossible mix of soccer-related and socially-related pressure on a host team. And Silva and Neymar took on the brunt of this pressure and deflected it off the team in different ways. One as the teams captain, the other as the Golden Boy. On the other hand, the german team took those struggles and punished the brazilian team for their weakness. They were decisive in their attacking from the first minute, they looked for cracks in the defense and attacked those with a purpose. Lots of overlaps, lots of rotation up front, lots of early pressure on the passed and his recipients. All the old guard are taking responsibility (Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Klose) and guys like Hummels, Kroos and Müller are playing as good as anybody at their position. I am absolutely excited for Sunday, there is nothing bigger for me as a sports fan than a WC final. __________________ “The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!” Last edited by whomario : 07-08-2014 at 06:19 PM.

07-08-2014, 06:14 PM	#3184
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	This was unbelievable. I mean, for Germany to do this to Saudi Arabia is one thing, but to do it to Brazil...in Brazil...during the semi-finals of the World Cup is pretty epic. They will talk about this one for decades. Last edited by Dutch : 07-08-2014 at 06:15 PM.

07-08-2014, 07:38 PM	#3185
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	That was amazing. I'm trying to think of a live sport event that was that stunning and had so much of an impact on the sport

07-08-2014, 07:45 PM	#3186
Marc Vaughan SI Games Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Melbourne, FL	Did not see that coming - amazing display by Germany and Brazil went totally to pieces for around 25 minutes ...

07-08-2014, 07:55 PM	#3188
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	In the semi finals of the World Cup? Yeah, I don't buy that for a second. Unless all the Brazilian players families were taken hostage yesterday and we just haven't heard of it yet

07-08-2014, 07:56 PM	#3189
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	This is the most shocking result I've ever witnessed in sport. Just... whoa. It's like Brazil was a high school team in the back - no challenging the offense, having the ball passed around in the 18. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-09-2014, 01:36 AM	#3193
AlexB Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	I'm assuming that it was a tongue in cheek comment: zero chance of it actually being rigged. Just a culmination of what we have seen so far: Brazil over invested in the emotion of their home WC, as evidenced by their tears and reaction to the anthems, against a German side known for calmness, efficiency - the polar opposite At the same time no Neymar, no Thiago Silva, and the leader was David Silva who is again a wild spirit, not the level headed attitude required And Brazil not really in form, while Germany played a blinder Perfect storm, that was all __________________ 'A song is a beautiful lie', Idlewild, Self Healer. When you're smiling, the whole world smiles with you. Sports! Last edited by AlexB : 07-09-2014 at 02:05 AM.

07-09-2014, 01:38 AM	#3194
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	This is like saying the canada hockey Team could be bought at the vancouver olympics. Multi millionairs with a shot at god-status in their home country (and a collective hundreds of mio in endorsements waiting, just as a bonus) __________________ “The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!”