WW CXXXIX - The Red Death II - GAME OVER, SERVANTS WIN

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

if both Eaglefan and Narc are both Servants, I'm going to believe mauboy's claim more. I mean that's three straight days the Servants will have been lynched if Mauboy turns out to be one too-I would think they would want the attention off them tomorrow, not additional attention given what's happened the last two days. To try a fake reveal at this point just seems to be the wrong decision here at this point in the game if this is what the Servants are trying here.

A fair thought. However please explain this. Why did the "BG" come out in support of the guy who fake claimed his role. Why did the BG vote for the seer who said the guy claiming his role was a wolf?

Please explain this.

[mauchow]

This was explained.. I truly thought, like others that he was converted and was trying to buy trust by giving us a wolf so i didnt want to give in to the wolves and reveal what would have been the biggest role left.. If I didn't think he was converted there is no way i dont come out and say it. Bug was off his rockers that day. It's unfortunately how it went down. I voiced my displeasure at his lynching. I'm not happy about my play. Abe will tell u that as well post game.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

This was explained.. I truly thought, like others that he was converted and was trying to buy trust by giving us a wolf so i didnt want to give in to the wolves and reveal what would have been the biggest role left.. If I didn't think he was converted there is no way i dont come out and say it. Bug was off his rockers that day. It's unfortunately how it went down. I voiced my displeasure at his lynching. I'm not happy about my play. Abe will tell u that as well post game.

I could buy this if it made any sense for a converted seer to gain our trust.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

This was explained.. I truly thought, like others that he was converted and was trying to buy trust by giving us a wolf so i didnt want to give in to the wolves and reveal what would have been the biggest role left.. If I didn't think he was converted there is no way i dont come out and say it. Bug was off his rockers that day. It's unfortunately how it went down. I voiced my displeasure at his lynching. I'm not happy about my play. Abe will tell u that as well post game.

Not to rub salt in the wound if you're a villager and telling the truth, but, dude, you didn't even vote for Narc?!? I mean, here he is, claiming your role, and you vote for an unsteady seer claimant? WTH?

I'm sorry, I'm not very forgiving. You're either definitely a wolf, or you pulled an Arod in the playoffs performance. That's beyond bad play, it's downright irresponsible, and you deserve to be lynched no matter what happens to EF.

Sorry for being a dick, but jeez, man. I still can't believe you did that. By labelling a wolf, I am actually giving you the benefit of the doubt.

[mauchow]

Fair enough.

Enjoy lynching your sheriff.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

Fair enough.

Enjoy lynching your sheriff.

Just saying, you know. I mean, by and large you're a pretty good player, and sure as heck, I have made a ton of mistakes in plenty of games. But WW is an unforgiving game. If you screw up, you deserve the crap you get for it. I sure know I have gotten crap when I have screwed up.

So if you're really the sheriff, I'm not going to be all broken up about lynching you, because you brought this on yourself with the decisions you made. Same goes with EF. If he is really a detective, he sure has done his mightly best to get himself lynched. As you know, Bug hardly handled the seer role well either.

If all of you are villagers and get lynched for odd decisions, really, the whole village has been screwed this game by poor decision making from several people with key roles, and there's not much we can do about that.

[The Jackal]

Mau:

Your mission, if you choose to accept it:

Block a kill tonight. People might buy your story a bit more then!

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Mau:

Your mission, if you choose to accept it:

Block a kill tonight. People might buy your story a bit more then!

Well now you have given them ideas. Fake a blocked night kill!

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Well now you have given them ideas. Fake a blocked night kill!

I'm cool with that too.

[mauchow]

I'm going to block cr. Help me out wolves.

[EagleFan]

unvote mau

vote dubb

[EagleFan]

Unless there is enough of you that can see through mau's deception...

Look closely at the people who steered this decision tonight.

If you come to your senses I will investigate mau tonight, if the wolves don't come after me that is.

[dubb93]

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

If all of you are villagers and get lynched for odd decisions, really, the whole village has been screwed this game by poor decision making from several people with key roles, and there's not much we can do about that.

I've had that thought as well at different points over the past couple of days but figured I would wait to see something like that before lamenting the cruel fates.

But I've also had a hard time rationalizing the moves that the wolves have made with the conflicting information we have ... all in all, the last couple of days have been kind of a mess for me to analyze.

[EagleFan]

If it doesn't fit, you must acquit...

[hoopsguy]

Wow, Danny is only 5th in posts? I thought he would be more involved in a big game like this ...

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Wow, Danny is only 5th in posts? I thought he would be more involved in a big game like this ...

And CF isn't first, what a slacker.

All in all I'm gonna be pretty annoyed if either one of EF or mau are villagers, and I really do have a sinking feeling they will be. I hate games where at the end it's like "oh well the village buried itself". I'm not saying we have much of a choice here, but it sucks.

[J23]

I think everyone is worried one/both of them might be. There's not a whole lot we can do about it though.

[The Jackal]

Yeah, because we killed our seer

[Autumn]

I haven't had a chance to look back like I hoped to today at voting records and posts. Maybe tomorrow will be a bit better. I'll be around to check the results, but will be doing some work now that the kids are asleep.

[hoopsguy]

Just not sure what to discuss at this point - vote isn't moving, want to see results tonight before diving too much into "next steps" posts at this point.

[Abe Sargent]

You could say "I love you."

[hoopsguy]

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[hoopsguy]

Upon further reflection, I'll love our moderator more if the write-up includes the dramatic death of a Servant.

[Autumn]

I'm about to pass out but will check the results before I hit the hay. Little doubt for me here how this will go.

[Abe Sargent]

That is time

[Abe Sargent]

With a great deal of consent, you feel good about tonight. On previous days that were highly contentious, you were often making wrong decisions. Today you have a plan, and you are following through as a group.


There is a comfort to unanimity. There is a safety in numbers. If you all see the same thing, then you know you aren’t crazy, that you aren’t imagining things. Reality does not always reflect perception. But when many of you see it the same way, it’s more likely to.


Today one of you number is about to enter the flame. EagleFan is decided upon.


Before he can enter the flame, his body starts to turn and twist into a human-crocodile mixture. His tremendous jaws snap at you. As a group you push him into the Flame, but his jaw clamps down hard on Chief Rum, and takes him into the Flame with him! Both are destroyed by the Sacred Flame.

When Chief Rum enters the Sacred Flame, his Light Charm is consumed by the Flame. It gives him twice the chance of survival as normal, but it fails. However, the combination of the Dark Charm and the Sacred Flame, with a Servant in the Flame, results in the Flame becoming tainted!

Tomorrow, you are unable to use the Sacred Flame. You may not lynch anyone. To represent this, there will be two Night Actions, back to back.


EagleFan was a Servant of the Red Death
Chief Rum was a Lightbringer and a Scientist


Day Seven has ended and Night Seven has begun. Night Seven ends at 2:00 am. Night Eight will end at 11:00 am or whenever I get a Dayfall pm from every person still alive with a Night Action. Then Day Nine will begin and end at 10 pm EST like normal.

[The Jackal]

Poor form EF, poor form. Awesome though.

[The Jackal]

Glad the facts and evidence did their work. Chicken dance indeed.

[The Jackal]

Two night actions back to back? That's rough.

[J23]

looks like a brutal, not another night action.

[J23]

Oh, nm, I just re-read what it actually said.

[hoopsguy]

Yep, random.org hasn't been particularly kind to us.

[EagleFan]

Oh crap, I wasn't the detective?

The time problems were completely true. I didn't have anywhere near the time for this that I had expected.

[hoopsguy]

The wolves, on the day they went after Bug, looked pretty desperate in their role hunting if they were willing to bluff at multiple villager roles.

Waiting for the write-up on EF's role, but a brutal wolf sounds like a starting role and not a convert.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Yep, random.org hasn't been particularly kind to us.

Real men use dice

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Real men use dice

Your dice hate Lightbringers. Don't make me do math to show how bad the 20% rule has been up to this point!

[Thomkal]

ugh just when we thought we had the upperhand over the Servants. I hope Chief Rum got some more of his inventions passed out to people who can use them.

[Commo_Soldier]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Your dice hate Lightbringers. Don't make me do math to show how bad the 20% rule has been up to this point!

31% chance that one villager doesn't make it thus far.

Sad to see Chief go though despite the light charm. I'm feeling a little better about Mau being bad now too as it could be him trying to save EF another day. I'm really confused about the scroll of wrath now though as I don't see a wolf using it when it could be that EF was the last original wolf.

[Commo_Soldier]

Dola, after tomorrow we should hopefully be at 7 people at worst and see we have a good Mau because of a successful block. If we wind up with 7 it could be a nice 5-2 or 6-1 margin of villagers to wolves.

[Commo_Soldier]

Day 1

thomkal votes dubb 83
Dzilla votes NTN 84
NTN votes mauboy 88
Narc votes MrBug 105
autumn votes J23 116
EF votes Danny 117
jackal votes Danny 123
Bhlloy votes dubb 125
commo votes Bhlloy 127
hoops votes mauboy 129
SnDvls votes jackal 141
Lathum votes Danny 142
Narc unvotes MrBug 154
Narc votes jackal 154
mauboy votes Lathum 164
Narc unvotes jackal 167
Narc votes Lathum 167
dubb votes Lathum 170
Saldana votes dubb 171
Saldana unvotes dubb 173
Zinto votes J23 178
jackal unvotes Danny 199
jackal votes Bhlloy 199
J23 votes Bhlloy 212
SnDvls unvotes Jackal 213
mckerney votes Bhlloy 222
SnDvls votes J23 225
CF votes mauboy 233
Grammaticus votes NTN 236
Saldana votes J23 242
MrBug votes CF 244
NTN unvotes mauboy 248
NTN votes Bhlloy 248
dubb unvotes Lathum 249
dubb votes Bhlloy 249
mauboy unvotes Lathum 250
mauboy votes dubb 250
Chief Rum votes mauboy 254
((Bhlloy reveals as keeper)) 275
Bhlloy unvotes dubb 275
Bhlloy votes mauboy 275
jackal unvotes Bhlloy 281
jackal votes mauboy 283
EF unvotes Danny 287
EF votes mauboy 287
jackal unvotes mauboy 296
jackal votes J23 296
Danny votes NTN 297
CF unvotes mauboy 306
CF votes J23 306
Lahtum unvotes Danny 310
Lathum votes J23 310
commo unvotes Bhlloy 318
mckerney unvotes Bhlloy 329
mckerney votes mauboy 329
commo votes NTN 334
J23 unvotes Bhlloy 352
J23 votes mauboy 354
Bhlloy unvotes mauboy 357
Bhlloy votes NTN 357
mauboy unvotes dubb 361
mauboy votes NTN 361
j23 unvotes mauboy 364
j23 votes NTN 364
Dzilla unvotes NTN 377
dubb unvotes Bhlloy 386
RA votes NTN 390
CF unvotes J23 393
CF votes NTN 393
dubb votes J23 400
autumn unvotes J23
autumn votes NTN


Dubb - thomkal
NTN - Grammaticus, Danny, commo, Bhlloy, mauboy, J23, RA, CF, autumn
Mauboy - hoops, Chief Rum, EF, mckerney
J23 - Zinto, SnDvls, Saldana, jackal, Lathum, Dubb
Bhlloy - NTNDeacon
Lathum - Narc
Crimson Fox – MrBug

[Commo_Soldier]

Day 2

RA votes Dzilla 568
jackal votes Saldana 594
Grammaticus votes Dzilla 599
Lathum votes dubb 601
Saldana votes mauboy 602
mauboy votes dubb 611
commo votes Dzilla 612
Danny votes autumn 634
Narcizo votes mckerney 645
Zinto votes jackal 654
dubb votes Lathum 660
EF votes Saldana 662
autumn votes mckerney 665
SnDvls votes Dzilla 669
Crimson Fox votes Saldana 674
Danny unvotes autumn 684
hoops votes mckerney 693
Zinto unvotes jackal 698
Danny votes MrBug 702
Saldana unvotes mauboy 710
Saldana votes Dzilla 710
jackal unvotes Saldana 719
jackal votes mckerney 719
RA unvotes Dzilla 720
RA votes Dzilla 738
jackal unvotes mckerney 742
jackal votes Dzilla 742
mckerney votes Dzilla 743
CF unvotes saldanda 750
CF votes MrBug 750
Danny unvotes MrBug 751
Danny votes mckerney 751
Danny unvotes mckerney 752
Danny votes MrBug 752
((Dzilla reveals as exorcist)) 753
MrBug votes mckerney 758
Saldana unvotes Dzilla 759
Saldana votes jackal 759
jackal unvotes Dzilla 764
jackal votes Bug 764
commo unvotes Dzilla 766
commo votes mckerney 766
jackal unvotes MrBug 768
jackal votes Lathum 768
mckerney nvotes Dzilla 771
mckerney votes MrBug 771
Danny unvotes MrBug 772
Danny votes Lathum 772
Grammaticus unvotes Dzilla 779
Grammaticus votes autumn 779
SnDvls unvotes Dzilla 789
SnDvls votes Saldana 789
Dzilla votes mckerney 790
RA unvotes Dzilla 794
RA votes Lathum 794
mauboy unvotes dubb 809
CF unvotes MrBug 820
CF votes autumn 82

[Commo_Soldier]

Day 2 CONT

((mckerney reveals as martyr)) 836
CF unvotes autumn 841
autumn unvotes mckerney 843
autumn votes jackal 843
mauboy votes Saldana 851
Lathum unvotes dubb 860
Lathum votes Saldana 860
CF votes Saldana 861
hoops unvotes mckerney 864
Dzilla unvotes mckerney 867
Dzilla votes Saldana 867
mckerney unvotes MrBug 874
mckerney votes Saldana 874
Saldana unvotes jackal 894
Saldana votes Lathum 894
thomkal votes Lathum 905
commo unvotes mckerney 908
commo votes jackal 908
Saldana unvotes Lathum 921
Saldana votes jackal 921
hoops votes SnDvls 928
Dzilla unvotes Saldana 933
Danny unvotes Lathum 938
Danny votes SnDvls 938
jackal unvotes Lathum 945
jackal votes SnDvls 945
Zinto votes jackal 950
jackal unvotes SnDvls 967
jackal votes Lathum 967
jackal unvotes lahtum
jackal votes mckerney
jackal unvotes mckerney
jackal votes Saldana
jackal unvotes Saldana
jackal votes Lathum
jackal unvotes Lathum 980
jackal votes Saldana 980
Dzilla votes jackal 991
J23 votes jackal 993
jackal unvotes Saldana 1000
jackal votes Lathum 1000
Lathum unvotes Saldana 1012
Lathum votes jackal 1012
Danny unvotes SnDvls 1018
Danny votes Lathum 1018
Lathum unvotes jackal 1022
Lathum votes Saldana 1022
Lathum unvotes Saldana 1023
Lathum votes jackal 1023
Chief votes Saldana 1054
jackal unvotes Lathum 1063
jackal votes Saldana 1063
jackal unvotes Saldana 1066
jackal votes Lathum 1066
Lathum unvotes jackal 1080
Lathum votes Saldana 1080
Zinto unvotes jackal 1082
Zinto votes Lathum 1082
hoops uvnotes SnDvls 1083
hoops votes Lathum 1083
((Lathum reveals as minister) 1086
jackal unvotes Lathum 1088
jckal votes Saldana 1088
Zinto unvotes Lathum 1095
Zinto votes jackal 1095
commo unvotes jackal 1107
commo votes Saldana 1107
Grammaticus unvotes autumn 1108
Grammaticus votes Lathum 1108



Saldana - EF, SnDvls, mauboy, CF, mckerney, Chief, Lathum, jackal, commo
mckerney - Narcizo, MrBug
jackal - autumn, Saldana, Dzilla, J23, Zinto
Lathum - dubb, RA, thomkal, Danny, hoops, Grammaticus

[hoopsguy]

Day 4 is looking really, really interesting to me at the moment. Working on some stuff from posts/votes on that day now ... the day we let EF off the hook to go after RA under "convert logic".

[Commo_Soldier]

Day 3

CF votes MrBug 1209
Thomkal votes mauboy 1239
EF votes thomkal 1241
jackal votes MrBug 1244
thomkal unvotes mauboy 1255
autumn votes J23 1264
SnDvls votes EF 1266
Narc votes EF 1271
Danny votes Zinto 1305
commo votes Zinto 1322
SnDvls unvotes EF 1325
hoops votes Zinto 1345
J23 votes MrBug 1347
SnDvls votes Zinto 1351
Zinto votes EF 1372
dubb votes Zinto 1375
Grammaticus votes Zinto 1380
thomkal votes MrBug 1383
Danny unvotes Zinto 1387
Danny votes thomkal 1387
CF unvotes MrBug 1389
CF votes thomkal
jackal unvotes MrBug 1398
jackal votes thomkal 1398
j23 unvotes MrBug 1401
j23 votes Zinto 1401
MrBug votes thomkal 1402
Zinto unvotes EF 1405
Zinto votes thomkal 1405
mauboy votes thomkal 1407
Danny unvotes thomkal 1417
Danny votes Zinto 1417
Dzilla votes thomkal 1431
mckerney votes thomkal 1438
Danny unvotes Zinto 1442
Danny votes j23 1442
Crimson Fox unvotes thomkal 1445
CF votes j23 1445
thomkal unvotes MrBug 1468
thomkal votes Zinto 1468
Danny unvotes J23 1472
Danny votes Zinto 1472
autumn unvotes J23 1478
autumn votes Zinto 1478
CF unvotes J23 1484
CF votes thomkal 1484
RA votes thomkal 1494
Chief votes thomkal 1523
CF unvotes thomkal 1526
CF votes Zinto 1526
jackal unvotes thomkal 1533
jackal votes Zinto 1533

Thomkal - EF, MrBug, Zinto, mauboy, Dzilla, mckerney, RA, Chief
EF - Narcizo
Zinto - commo, hoops, SnDvls, dubb, Grammaticus, J23, thomkal, Danny, autumn, CF, jackal

[Commo_Soldier]

Day Four

#1678 Commo votes Bug (1)
#1701 Dzilla votes Bug (2)
#1708 Thomkal votes Raiders (1)
#1718 Narcizo votes Chief Rum (1)
#1725 Autumn votes Raiders (2)
#1756 Gramm voes Bug (3)
#1758 Eagle votes Bug (4)
#1760 Jackal votes Raiders (3)
#1769 Dubb votes Crimson (1)
#1784 Hoops votes Eagle (1)
#1791 Crimson votes Bug (5)
#1813 Bug Reveal
#1819 Gramm unvotes Bug (4)
#1819 Gramm votes Eagle (2)
#1820 Crimson unvotes Bug (3)
#1826 Commo unvotes Bug (2)
#1829 Narcizo unvotes Chief (0)
#1829 Narcizo votes Eagle (3)
#1837 J23 votes Eagle (4)
#1845 SnDvls votes Eagle (5)
#1865 commo votes Crimson (2)
#1867 Dzilla unvotes Bug (1)
#1867 Raiders votes Eagle (6)
#1887 Dzilla votes Chief (1)
#1889 Dzilla unvotes Chief (0)
#1889 Dzilla votes Raiders (4)
#1891 Crimson votes Raiders (5)
#1906 Commo unvotes Crimson (1)
#1945 Chief votes Raiders (6)
#1947 mckerney votes Raiders (7)
#1954 Bug votes Chief (1)
#1963 Mau votes Raiders (8)
#1967 Commo votes Chief (2)
#1980 Dubb votes Crimson (0)
#1980 Dubb votes Chief (3)
#1984 Hoops unvotes Eagle (5)
#1984 Hoops votes Chief (4)
#1997 Bug unvotes Chief (3)
#1997 Bug votes Raiders (9)


Raiders Army (9) - Thomkal (1708), Autumn (1725), Jackal (1756), Dzilla (1889), Crimson (1891), Chief Rum (1945), Mckerney (1947), Mauboy (1963), Bug (1997)
EF (5) - Gramma (1819), Narcizo (1829), J23 (1837), SnDvls (1845), Raiders (1867)
Chief Rum (3) - Commo (1967), Dubbs (1980), Hoops (1984)

[Commo_Soldier]

Day 5

commo votes Chief 2153
commo unvotes Chief 2157
thomkal votes EF 2187
jackal votes EF 2196
EF votes MrBug 2211
autumn votes Chief 2213
MrBug votes Narcizo 2224
autumn unvotes Chief 2237
autumn votes Narcizo 2237
jackal unvotes EF 2244
jackal votes Narcizo 2244
J23 votes Narcizo 2257
SnDvls votes EF 2285
commo votes Narc 2290
Grammaticus votes Narc 2294
commo unvotes Narc 2344
commo votes MrBug 2354
Narcizo votes MrBug 2368
jackal unvotes Narc 2375
jackal vote EF 2375
mckerney unvotes Narcizo 2387
mckerney votes EF 2387
thomkal unvotes EF 2415
thomkal votes MrBug 2415
hoops guy votes MrBug 2423
autumn unvotes Narcizo 2441
autumn votes MrBug 2442
J23 unvotes Narcizo 2444
J23 votes MrBug 2444
SnDvls unvotes EF 2445
SnDvls votes MrBug 2445
mauboy votes MrBug 2456
jackal unvotes EF 2457
jackal votes MrBug 2457
SnDvls unvotes MrBug 2489
SnDvls votes EF 2499
autumn unvotes MrBug 2507
autumn votes EF 2507
jackal unvotes MrBug 2511
jackal votes EF 2511
mauboy unvotes MrBug 2512
mauboy votes EF 2512
cheif votes EF 2526
dubb votes MrBug 2536
autumnunvotes EF 2600
autumn votes MrBug 2600
mauboy unvotes EF 2601
mauboy votes Bug 2601

4 EF - mckerney, SnDvls, jackal, Chief
9 MrBug - EF, commo, Narcizo, thomkal, hoops, J23, dubb, autumn, mauboy
2 Narcizo - MrBug, Grammaticus

[Commo_Soldier]

Day 6

hoops votes Narcizo 2757
Grammaticus votes Narcizo 2761
dubb votes EF 2762
mauboy votes Narcizo 2763
jackal votes EF 2764
J23 votes EF 2767
autumn votes Narc 2779
thomkal votes EF 2816
Narcizo votes Narcizo 2823
mckerney votes Narcizo 2837
Narcizo votes nightfall 2839
Chief votes EF 2842
commo votes Narc 2847
dubb unvotes EF 2857
dubb otes commo 2857
dubb unvotes commo 2869
dubb votes EF 2869
autumn unvotes Narcizo 2905
autumn votes EF 2905


6 Narcizo - hoops, Grammaticus, mauboy, Narcizo, mckerney, commo
6 EF - jackal, J23, thomkal, Chief, dubb, autumn

[Commo_Soldier]

Day 7

mckerney votes EF 3030
commo votes EF 3039
thomkal votes EF 3046
thomkal votes nightfall 3046
jackal votes EF 3049
J23 votes EF 3053
Chief votes EF 3057
Chief votes nightfall 3057
autumn vote EF 3059
autumn votes nightfall 3059
jakcal votes nightfall 3063
mauboy votes autumn 3070
Chief unvotes nightfall 3079
jakcal unvotes nightfall 3081
J23 votes nightfall 3104
Chief votes nightfall 3105
jackal votes nightfall 3110
dubb votes EF 3113
dubb votes nightfall 3116
mauboy unvotes autumn 3141
mauboy votes EF 3141
mauboy votes nightfall 3141
EF votes mauboy 3152
J23 unvotes nightfall 3168
J23 unvotes EF 3168
J23 votes Mauboy 3168
Chief unvotes nightfall 3170
Chief unvotes EF 3170
Chief votes mauboy 3170
hoops votes EF 3178
EF unvotes mauboy 3211
EF votes dub 3211

8 Eagle Fan - mckerney, commo, thomkal, jackal, autumn, dubb, mauboy, hoops
2 mauboy - J23, Chief
1 Dubb - Eagle Fan

5 nightfall - thomkal, autumn, jackal, dubb, mauboy

[Chief Rum]

Oh well, sorry for tainting the Flame folks, and good luck village!