WW XCIV Group Therapy - Game Over! - Page 67

hoopsguy · 05-21-2009, 06:37 PM

Dola - I might be back before deadline but I'll be picking my kid up at 7PM EST and we are going to the park after that. Then it will be time for dinner. If I'm able to log on for a couple of minutes prior to deadline I'll try to do it. But controlling the schedule of a two year old is at least as hard as controller the votes of villagers.

This game has suggested I'm not as good at the latter as I would like to think.

Lathum · 05-21-2009, 06:43 PM

hmm, no traction on Autumn.

Unvote Autumn
Vote Hoops

Lathum · 05-21-2009, 06:44 PM

PF -4 Autumn (3183), DT (3220), Hoops (3258), CR (3264)
Hoops-4 Dubb ( 3240), PF ( 3256), Saldana ( 3259), Lathum (3302)

no vote: Poli

dubb93 · 05-21-2009, 06:47 PM

I'm out until after deadline. Have training tonight from 7-8.

hoopsguy · 05-21-2009, 06:52 PM

I've got a sinking feeling that it really does not matter where Poli puts his vote. But hopefully I'm wrong and he makes the right call.

Later, all.

DaddyTorgo · 05-21-2009, 06:54 PM

just about 7pm and I gotta say im okay with my vote being on pf and even more with the other people who are on pf with me. so if you 3, or 2 of you are wolves then you've earned it. but I don't think that's the case

Chief Rum · 05-21-2009, 06:58 PM

I do not think Poli is a wolf, not with his Telle crusade.

And I do not think anyone currently on PF is a wolf.

That means, if the three wolves guess is correct, we have all three of those wolves currently on hoops.

So...

If you are a villager AND on hoops, you are the only one. You are the only person with the ability to ensure today's result. And right now, you're on the wrong person.

And Lord help us if Poli votes hoops.

Poli · 05-21-2009, 06:59 PM

This party sucks.

Poli · 05-21-2009, 07:05 PM

I worry I'm being led to the slaughter with hoops and CR. I worry that autumn is doing the same. I worry that dubb is somehow mixed in with this as well.

Poli · 05-21-2009, 07:07 PM

I need to go read up more on PF.

Lathum · 05-21-2009, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I do not think Poli is a wolf, not with his Telle crusade.

And I do not think anyone currently on PF is a wolf.

That means, if the three wolves guess is correct, we have all three of those wolves currently on hoops.

So...

If you are a villager AND on hoops, you are the only one. You are the only person with the ability to ensure today's result. And right now, you're on the wrong person.

And Lord help us if Poli votes hoops.

Who do you think the 3 are?

Chief Rum · 05-21-2009, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

Who do you think the 3 are?

saldana is the only one with a vouching, so I think I have to go with him. If it's two wolves, it's him and dubb, due to voting record, although I agree with the earlier assertion that we may not be able to depend on voting records, the way things have turned out (for instance, PB, clap and The Jackal all had awful voting records, and all were villagers).

It's not so much about who feels wolfish, as who I think we can eliminate. Thusly, whoever is left, no matter how seemingly unlikely, must be the wolves.

dubb93 · 05-21-2009, 07:24 PM

Well I must have missed the memo about training getting canceled b/c when I showed up I was the only one there and there was a memo on the conference room door that said it had been re-scheduled so I will be around for deadline it looks like.

Chief Rum · 05-21-2009, 07:26 PM

saldana being the villager with respect to "go with him", I should clarify, with dubb probably next. By process of elimination, the rest must be wolves if I am right. But I haven't been right often in this game, so take it FWIW.

I know what I am right on right now, though, and that's that Poli and that villager get on PF, if we are to have a chance of pulling this one out.

Lathum · 05-21-2009, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

saldana is the only one with a vouching, so I think I have to go with him. If it's two wolves, it's him and dubb, due to voting record, although I agree with the earlier assertion that we may not be able to depend on voting records, the way things have turned out (for instance, PB, clap and The Jackal all had awful voting records, and all were villagers).

It's not so much about who feels wolfish, as who I think we can eliminate. Thusly, whoever is left, no matter how seemingly unlikely, must be the wolves.

umm, what?

so you think Saldana IS a wolf because he is vouched for?

Can you just list 3 names.

dubb93 · 05-21-2009, 07:27 PM

CR's posts are getting increasingly desperate. I think they know we have them all in our sights now.

Chief Rum · 05-21-2009, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

umm, what?

so you think Saldana IS a wolf because he is vouched for?

Can you just list 3 names.

Read to the bottom, slick.

Chief Rum · 05-21-2009, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

CR's posts are getting increasingly desperate. I think they know we have them all in our sights now.

Says one of the guys who is likely a wolf.

Lathum · 05-21-2009, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Read to the bottom, slick.

we posted at the same time, bub.

dubb93 · 05-21-2009, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Says one of the guys who is likely a wolf.

Easy there wolfy.

Chief Rum · 05-21-2009, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

we posted at the same time, bub.

Then correct yourself.

Poli · 05-21-2009, 07:31 PM

Lathum · 05-21-2009, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Then correct yourself.

what are you talking about?

Chief Rum · 05-21-2009, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

Easy there wolfy.

lol...getting confident, eh? You and PF and Lathum know what the deal is, and you know how important it is you get this lynch. You also know if you don't...you wolves are going down.

I guess you better hope Poli hasn't been paying attention. Or that saldana won't come back before deadline.

Lathum · 05-21-2009, 07:33 PM

Saldana won't be back.

I agree with Dubb, CR stinks of desperation right now

Chief Rum · 05-21-2009, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

what are you talking about?

Pretty clear if you read back through. I'm not going to hold the hand of a wolf anymore. You go figure it out yourself.

Chief Rum · 05-21-2009, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

Saldana won't be back.

I agree with Dubb, CR stinks of desperation right now

And you stink of fear. Fear Poli's going to see through your bull.

You're the only guy in this whole thing who doesn't have one bit of vouching or clearance to him. Just your word about some mysterious role you have, and how that's supposed to be some clear for you.

The fact you're on hoops should tell him everything he needs to know.

Lathum · 05-21-2009, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Pretty clear if you read back through. I'm not going to hold the hand of a wolf anymore. You go figure it out yourself.

are you freaking kidding me?

I ask you to clarify something at the same moment you are, you make a snide comment then expect me to go back and correct myself?

hoopsguy · 05-21-2009, 07:39 PM

Dubb, you are usually a more rational player than your posts so far today.

Lathum · 05-21-2009, 07:39 PM

so Poli, where ya leaning?

hoopsguy · 05-21-2009, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

And you stink of fear. Fear Poli's going to see through your bull.

You're the only guy in this whole thing who doesn't have one bit of vouching or clearance to him. Just your word about some mysterious role you have, and how that's supposed to be some clear for you.

The fact you're on hoops should tell him everything he needs to know.

I feel like I have known about Lathum for awhile now. But the rest of the villagers don't seem to want to explore it. I hope that we have the opportunity to do so tomorrow, assuming there is a tomorrow.

Chief Rum · 05-21-2009, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

are you freaking kidding me?

I ask you to clarify something at the same moment you are, you make a snide comment then expect me to go back and correct myself?

I don't expect you to do anything. You were asking me a question. I answered you. I had to clarify it. You have not responded to the clarified answer, just got chippy in your usual way. If you don't want to respond to my actual answer, fine. Since you're a wolf, it doesn't really matter what you think.

Poli · 05-21-2009, 07:41 PM

I feel like I'm getting played.

Chief Rum · 05-21-2009, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I feel like I have known about Lathum for awhile now. But the rest of the villagers don't seem to want to explore it. I hope that we have the opportunity to do so tomorrow, assuming there is a tomorrow.

Had the same suspicions myself, but I'll admit I got tunnel vision on voting records. Figured he was going so hard at it, I would give him a pass. For crying out loud, he even voted a villager in his "mysterious role clear" move. And here we are, days later, and he's still around. Amazing huh?

It's a testament to the title under his name.

Lathum · 05-21-2009, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I don't expect you to do anything. You were asking me a question. I answered you. I had to clarify it. You have not responded to the clarified answer, just got chippy in your usual way. If you don't want to respond to my actual answer, fine. Since you're a wolf, it doesn't really matter what you think.

I got chippy because you told me to go correct myself so stop trying to make me look like the manufactured bad guy.

hoopsguy · 05-21-2009, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poli

I feel like I'm getting played.

Me too.

Lathum · 05-21-2009, 07:45 PM

Poli, you see how hard Hoops and CR are doing the old 1-2?

It's almost like they can chat on AIM and coordinate with each other

Chief Rum · 05-21-2009, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poli

I feel like I'm getting played.

Is there really any doubt about that? There's a group here playing with you. You have to decide which.

If I were you, I would ignore anything here that isn't dealing with the facts. You know what's happened in this game, and can make your own informed judgment.

I won't lie, it's an absolutely critical decision, and it's not clear to you, how could it be. So I am going to rely on your instincts myself. I am hopeful you'll make the right choice.

hoopsguy · 05-21-2009, 07:46 PM

Lathum, just try to be classy when you win tonight. K, thx.

Lathum · 05-21-2009, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Lathum, just try to be classy when you win tonight. K, thx.

Have i EVER. ONCE. gloated in this game or on either side won as a poor sport?

Ever?

I resent the implication that I would even think about doing that.

Chief Rum · 05-21-2009, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

I got chippy because you told me to go correct myself so stop trying to make me look like the manufactured bad guy.

You got chippy when you responded with "are you freakin' kidding me?" to my response. What followed was from that. Sorry if I don't sit back and take your constant attitude like some sheep.

And in the context of this game, there is nothing manufactured about your badness.

Poli · 05-21-2009, 07:49 PM

Question to help me understand:

What's the reasoning for going with PF instead of Lathum?

Autumn · 05-21-2009, 07:50 PM

Saldana, I believe i know that you're a villager. I can say that based on the same info that allows me to say that about CR and Hoops, and Jackal before that. I really think you're in the wrong crowd there.

Poli, the desperation to go after Hoops today by those who are on my distrust list speaks a lot to me. This is near endgame and suddenly we have three people I've targeted all going after the closest we have to a cleared villager. It's a little too neat, don't you think? They know they don't have the numbers to do anything else.

hoopsguy · 05-21-2009, 07:50 PM

I think the wolves are going to have a lot to puff out their chests about when this day is done.

I think both of us have engaged in a little smack talk in the past and I would certainly expect some after this one is over.

That said, I'm really frustrated with how this game has played out. The last couple of days have been pretty exasperating.

dubb93 · 05-21-2009, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Dubb, you are usually a more rational player than your posts so far today.

I have been very rational, but it seems the choice is either I'm a wolf or you three are blowing smoke up my ass. I know I am not a wolf so I have been working and will continue to work with the assumption that you three are blowing smoke up my ass.

Autumn · 05-21-2009, 07:52 PM

Poli, I thik that was somewhat manufactured by me. Hoops at least wanted to go Lathum and couldn't get a lot of traction. Lathum is on my border list, I was not sure at the beginning of the day where to put him and I think by tomorrow I may have a better idea so I suggested we go elsewhere today.

Lathum · 05-21-2009, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Read to the bottom, slick.

I was responding to your comment that was dripping with your usual condescending smugness.

Poli · 05-21-2009, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

Poli, I thik that was somewhat manufactured by me. Hoops at least wanted to go Lathum and couldn't get a lot of traction. Lathum is on my border list, I was not sure at the beginning of the day where to put him and I think by tomorrow I may have a better idea so I suggested we go elsewhere today.

What's the argument for PF then?

hoopsguy · 05-21-2009, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poli

Question to help me understand:

What's the reasoning for going with PF instead of Lathum?

At this point, the fact that we aren't going to get enough movement to make it happen?

If I got my pick, it would have been Lathum today but Autumn did not want to go there because he was uncertain about his read on Lathum. And since Chief and I need allies to try and drum up a wolf lynch, we kind of took what we could get.

Honestly, I think we are running villager/villager at this point. But I don't think anyone on me is moving off so I think the villagers have to hope that Autumn's instincts were good on this one.

Autumn · 05-21-2009, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

Poli, you see how hard Hoops and CR are doing the old 1-2?

It's almost like they can chat on AIM and coordinate with each other

This is a rather disingenuous post. You've already suggested they have a Lovers-type role.

05-21-2009, 06:54 PM	#3306
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	just about 7pm and I gotta say im okay with my vote being on pf and even more with the other people who are on pf with me. so if you 3, or 2 of you are wolves then you've earned it. but I don't think that's the case __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

05-21-2009, 06:58 PM	#3307
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I do not think Poli is a wolf, not with his Telle crusade. And I do not think anyone currently on PF is a wolf. That means, if the three wolves guess is correct, we have all three of those wolves currently on hoops. So... If you are a villager AND on hoops, you are the only one. You are the only person with the ability to ensure today's result. And right now, you're on the wrong person. And Lord help us if Poli votes hoops. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

05-21-2009, 06:59 PM	#3308
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	This party sucks. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

05-21-2009, 07:05 PM	#3309
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I worry I'm being led to the slaughter with hoops and CR. I worry that autumn is doing the same. I worry that dubb is somehow mixed in with this as well. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

05-21-2009, 07:07 PM	#3310
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I need to go read up more on PF. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

05-21-2009, 06:37 PM	#3301
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Dola - I might be back before deadline but I'll be picking my kid up at 7PM EST and we are going to the park after that. Then it will be time for dinner. If I'm able to log on for a couple of minutes prior to deadline I'll try to do it. But controlling the schedule of a two year old is at least as hard as controller the votes of villagers. This game has suggested I'm not as good at the latter as I would like to think.

05-21-2009, 06:43 PM	#3302
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	hmm, no traction on Autumn. Unvote Autumn Vote Hoops

05-21-2009, 06:44 PM	#3303
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	PF -4 Autumn (3183), DT (3220), Hoops (3258), CR (3264) Hoops-4 Dubb ( 3240), PF ( 3256), Saldana ( 3259), Lathum (3302) no vote: Poli

05-21-2009, 06:52 PM	#3305
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I've got a sinking feeling that it really does not matter where Poli puts his vote. But hopefully I'm wrong and he makes the right call. Later, all.

05-21-2009, 07:26 PM	#3314
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	saldana being the villager with respect to "go with him", I should clarify, with dubb probably next. By process of elimination, the rest must be wolves if I am right. But I haven't been right often in this game, so take it FWIW. I know what I am right on right now, though, and that's that Poli and that villager get on PF, if we are to have a chance of pulling this one out. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

05-21-2009, 07:31 PM	#3322
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	gah __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

05-21-2009, 07:33 PM	#3325
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Saldana won't be back. I agree with Dubb, CR stinks of desperation right now

05-21-2009, 07:39 PM	#3329
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Dubb, you are usually a more rational player than your posts so far today.

05-21-2009, 07:39 PM	#3330
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	so Poli, where ya leaning?

05-21-2009, 07:41 PM	#3333
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I feel like I'm getting played. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

05-21-2009, 07:45 PM	#3337
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Poli, you see how hard Hoops and CR are doing the old 1-2? It's almost like they can chat on AIM and coordinate with each other

05-21-2009, 07:46 PM	#3339
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Lathum, just try to be classy when you win tonight. K, thx.

05-21-2009, 07:49 PM	#3342
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Question to help me understand: What's the reasoning for going with PF instead of Lathum? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

05-21-2009, 07:50 PM	#3343
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Saldana, I believe i know that you're a villager. I can say that based on the same info that allows me to say that about CR and Hoops, and Jackal before that. I really think you're in the wrong crowd there. Poli, the desperation to go after Hoops today by those who are on my distrust list speaks a lot to me. This is near endgame and suddenly we have three people I've targeted all going after the closest we have to a cleared villager. It's a little too neat, don't you think? They know they don't have the numbers to do anything else.

05-21-2009, 07:50 PM	#3344
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I think the wolves are going to have a lot to puff out their chests about when this day is done. I think both of us have engaged in a little smack talk in the past and I would certainly expect some after this one is over. That said, I'm really frustrated with how this game has played out. The last couple of days have been pretty exasperating.

05-21-2009, 07:52 PM	#3346
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Poli, I thik that was somewhat manufactured by me. Hoops at least wanted to go Lathum and couldn't get a lot of traction. Lathum is on my border list, I was not sure at the beginning of the day where to put him and I think by tomorrow I may have a better idea so I suggested we go elsewhere today.

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