Unofficial Official 2012-13 College Basketball Thread - Page 67

Vince, Pt. II · 03-29-2013, 01:09 PM

Hooray coachspeak. That statement is categorically true and does nothing to indicate whether or not he is going to take the UCLA job.

MrBug708 · 03-29-2013, 01:15 PM

UCLA has officially submitted a contract offer to Stevens

MrBug708 · 03-29-2013, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

Brad Stevens staying at Butler despite UCLA overtures - ESPN Chicago

In an earlier text message to ESPN, Stevens reaffirmed his coaching status at Butler, but he also left the door slightly ajar by saying he would not comment on "any other speculation or situation."

"I'm the coach at Butler," he wrote.

I think he probably stays at Butler, but ESPN also originally reported that Smart was offered the job
And I missed Chiefs post earlier

Chief Rum · 03-29-2013, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

Brad Stevens staying at Butler despite UCLA overtures - ESPN Chicago

In an earlier text message to ESPN, Stevens reaffirmed his coaching status at Butler, but he also left the door slightly ajar by saying he would not comment on "any other speculation or situation."

"I'm the coach at Butler," he wrote.

The "I'm the coach at Butler" quote was from earlier in the week. Most of that article doesn't have anything new. The only new thing is the "credible source says he stays at Butler" part.

That may or may not be true, but ESPN has been pretty awful at covering this so far. We'll want to see confirmation elsewhere before this means anything. ESPN doesn't even have a byline attached to this, and they're all about the scoop.

spleen1015 · 03-29-2013, 02:01 PM

Local radio is reporting that 'sources' within Butler say Stevens is staying.

Chief Rum · 03-29-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

Local radio is reporting that 'sources' within Butler say Stevens is staying.

I think the signs are pointing to him staying, too, both locally and nationally.

MrBug708 · 03-29-2013, 02:20 PM

So Chief...what did Tracy mean? Shaka only makes sense?

Chief Rum · 03-29-2013, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

So Chief...what did Tracy mean? Shaka only makes sense?

No clue. I don't think it's Shaka. That makes no sense.

It seems like it's a coach still in the tourney. No idea what that's about.

hoopsguy · 03-29-2013, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

No clue. I don't think it's Shaka. That makes no sense.

It seems like it's a coach still in the tourney. No idea what that's about.

Still in tourney:
No - Boeheim, K, Izzo, Self, Matta
Maybe? - Donovan, Pitino, Marshall, Williams, Beilein
Would Not Chase (at this stage, if ever) - Altman, Enfield

That is my best breakdown of the 12 still in the tournament, subject to zero insider UCLA information.

MrBug708 · 03-29-2013, 03:33 PM

Steve Hartman said it's going to be Pitino. Despite being an LA guy for his whole life, I doubt he has any sources. And he is an alum. Of course, it does explain the flight to Indy.

dawgfan · 03-29-2013, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

That may or may not be true, but ESPN has been pretty awful at covering this so far. We'll want to see confirmation elsewhere before this means anything. ESPN doesn't even have a byline attached to this, and they're all about the scoop.

Does anyone still take ESPN news reporting seriously?

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 03-29-2013, 03:50 PM

i just hope they don't poach hopkins. he's the cuse coach in waiting but boeheim may never retire.

he's our best recruiter and the way bilas was gushing over the zone last night probably caught a few AD ears

Chief Rum · 03-29-2013, 03:52 PM

It appears that it is not Pitino.

Marshall is getting a lot of talk.

The original three targeted were Stevens, Pitino and Donovan. So with two of them not being this new mystery target, you have to wonder on Donovan.

I think we'll know before too long. Whoever it is, apparently he is close to signing to become UCLA's coach.

Keep in mind, the tourney thing is conjecture from a hint or two from those in the know, but they were far from definitive hints. I don't know that we can say if this coach is still in the tourney or not, or if he is even a college coach at all.

Chief Rum · 03-29-2013, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

Does anyone still take ESPN news reporting seriously?

No one who actually follows this stuff. Unfortunately, the masses aren't among that group, and that's where ESPN makes its cash.

Chief Rum · 03-29-2013, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

i just hope they don't poach hopkins. he's the cuse coach in waiting but boeheim may never retire.

he's our best recruiter and the way bilas was gushing over the zone last night probably caught a few AD ears

I would never say never, but I think you can be pretty sure you're safe there. UCLA won't hire an assistant to take over its head coaching job.

You should be more concerned that USC might go after Hopkins.

Thomkal · 03-29-2013, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

It appears that it is not Pitino.

Marshall is getting a lot of talk.

The original three targeted were Stevens, Pitino and Donovan. So with two of them not being this new mystery target, you have to wonder on Donovan.

I think we'll know before too long. Whoever it is, apparently he is close to signing to become UCLA's coach.

Keep in mind, the tourney thing is conjecture from a hint or two from those in the know, but they were far from definitive hints. I don't know that we can say if this coach is still in the tourney or not, or if he is even a college coach at all.

It would not surprise me if its Marshall. I've been aware of him since his Big South days at Winthrop. Seems like he can take any team and bring them success. Is UCLA too big a jump for him? Hard to say.

britrock88 · 03-29-2013, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Uh, Villanova has established a pretty good profile and reputation.

Yeah, totally spaced on their 9-seed when we were talking about the new Big East a while earlier. Mea culpa.

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 03-29-2013, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I would never say never, but I think you can be pretty sure you're safe there. UCLA won't hire an assistant to take over its head coaching job.

You should be more concerned that USC might go after Hopkins.

he's from cali and was on their radar. idk that he's option 1a but he might be 3rd or 4th on that list.

i'm the rare cuse fan that wants boeheim to retire because i think hopkins is going to be really good

MrBug708 · 03-29-2013, 04:19 PM

The knock on Marshall seems to be his just as big of a hardass as Howland, but probably not as good of an X & O's guy.

So ya

Chief Rum · 03-29-2013, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

The knock on Marshall seems to be his just as big of a hardass as Howland, but probably not as good of an X & O's guy.

So ya

No thank you to Howland Part II, agreed.

One of our big insiders is reporting UCLA is making another go of it at Stevens, offering "ridiculous" money.

I would actually prefer to move on. UCLA was already offering him a lot of money, and we know money wasn't his primary consideration. Don't be desperate, UCLA.

(Unless it works, lol)

Lathum · 03-29-2013, 05:43 PM

I bet it is Buzz Williams

hoopsguy · 03-29-2013, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I bet it is Buzz Williams

He already makes pretty good coin at Marquette, somewhere in the 2.5-3 range if I recall correctly from news last offseason.

Just bringing this up because it won't be a case where a 3 million dollar offer (number said for Stevens, right?) will represent a quantum leap in salary.

Chief Rum · 03-29-2013, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

He already makes pretty good coin at Marquette, somewhere in the 2.5-3 range if I recall correctly from news last offseason.

Just bringing this up because it won't be a case where a 3 million dollar offer (number said for Stevens, right?) will represent a quantum leap in salary.

Well, UCLA can afford much more than $3 M. I am not sure why that was the number they offered him at first.

Presumeably this new offer to Stevens is in Coack K/Cal area money.

dawgfan · 03-29-2013, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Well, UCLA can afford much more than $3 M. I am not sure why that was the number they offered him at first.

Presumeably this new offer to Stevens is in Coack K/Cal area money.

I would hope so. Stevens is already reportedly making more than $1M per year, and Butler should be getting more money now with their move to the Big East. Offering $3M is nice, but when you consider cost of living in LA, I don't think it represents the kind of massive pay increase Stevens is going to need to leave his comfort zone of Butler.

Chief Rum · 03-29-2013, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

I would hope so. Stevens is already reportedly making more than $1M per year, and Butler should be getting more money now with their move to the Big East. Offering $3M is nice, but when you consider cost of living in LA, I don't think it represents the kind of massive pay increase Stevens is going to need to leave his comfort zone of Butler.

Agreed, which is why Dan Guerrero is getting crucified right now for not leading with his best offer.

MrBug708 · 03-29-2013, 06:43 PM

Some people have speculated that the coach announcement could come tonight, but I would be surprised.

Someone else mentioned Tony Benentt

MrBug708 · 03-29-2013, 06:43 PM

Butler's Brad Stevens stays philosophical on profession

mauchow · 03-29-2013, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Some people have speculated that the coach announcement could come tonight, but I would be surprised.

Someone else mentioned Tony Benentt

Prepare for an offense as slow as Wisconsin if thats the case. That said I was hoping he'd one day take after Bo at Wisconsin. I doubt he'd leave UCLA for WI though.

dawgfan · 03-29-2013, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Someone else mentioned Tony Benentt

Interesting. Obviously a good coach. I wonder how the high level Cali recruits would respond to his coaching philosophies, or would he modify his philosophies?

Radii · 03-29-2013, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Someone else mentioned Tony Benentt

Please yes. Get that 40 point shit out of the ACC.

MrBug708 · 03-29-2013, 07:13 PM

I dont think he's a serious candidate, but he's been on the West Coast

Certainly would make Howland seem like he's doing 40 minutes of hell

Chief Rum · 03-29-2013, 07:15 PM

I am pretty sure the Bennett rumors are BS. UCLA is not hiring a slow ball coach.

Honestly, I would be shocked if the new coach at UCLA, whoever he ends up being, has even one thing in common with Ben Howland.

Matthean · 03-29-2013, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Butler's Brad Stevens stays philosophical on profession

Sure doesn't read like somebody trying to be wishy washy. Another aspect outside of the higher cost of living, there's always that chance he never sees the end of his contract with UCLA. The odds he completes his contract with Butler would have to be much higher.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 03-29-2013, 07:28 PM

Pretty good read on Flip over at Rock M Nation for any Mizzou fans that might be interested......

The State of Mizzou Basketball: Flipadelphia - Rock M Nation

Matthean · 03-29-2013, 08:19 PM

Michigan is playing like a team with no rhythm.

MizzouRah · 03-29-2013, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Pretty good read on Flip over at Rock M Nation for any Mizzou fans that might be interested......

The State of Mizzou Basketball: Flipadelphia - Rock M Nation

Good read, thanks.

Matthean · 03-29-2013, 08:30 PM

Michigan needs to play more of their 1-3-1 zone. Their regular defense sure isn't helping.

Matthean · 03-29-2013, 09:06 PM

Tough to watch your team play when it is obvious they aren't in the same league as their opponent.

mauchow · 03-29-2013, 09:13 PM

Michigan just can't get over the hump when they do start to make a move..

Matthean · 03-29-2013, 09:24 PM

I'm not sure why Michigan is so hellbent to not run the 1-3-1. Michigan's interior defense is so laughable at points it has to help to switch.

MrBug708 · 03-29-2013, 09:35 PM

DeToxRox · 03-29-2013, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

All ball.

bob · 03-29-2013, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

When I saw this, I had a flashback to basketball camp at Lipscomb. Coaches told us that if someone set a pick on us like this without protecting themselves, nail them in the nuts. Then tell them you are helping them work on their game.

Lathum · 03-29-2013, 09:44 PM

holy shit, he hit that one from Grand Rapids

DeToxRox · 03-29-2013, 09:45 PM

Fun game.

mauchow · 03-29-2013, 09:45 PM

WHAT A FUCKIN COMEBACK!

mauchow · 03-29-2013, 09:46 PM

I hope Tom Crean is watching this. With 1:15 to go and down 12 Crean gave up. Down 9 with just over a minute to go and Michigan ties it up. Sweet fuckin deal.

Scoobz0202 · 03-29-2013, 09:46 PM

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS

mauchow · 03-29-2013, 09:46 PM

Overrrrtimmmme!

mauchow · 03-29-2013, 09:47 PM

That's the first we've seen that commercial...You know Buffalo Wild Wings waiting for that one.

03-29-2013, 01:09 PM	#3301
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Hooray coachspeak. That statement is categorically true and does nothing to indicate whether or not he is going to take the UCLA job. Last edited by Vince, Pt. II : 03-29-2013 at 01:09 PM.

03-29-2013, 02:01 PM	#3305
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Local radio is reporting that 'sources' within Butler say Stevens is staying. __________________ Why choose failure when success is an option?

03-29-2013, 03:52 PM	#3313
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	It appears that it is not Pitino. Marshall is getting a lot of talk. The original three targeted were Stevens, Pitino and Donovan. So with two of them not being this new mystery target, you have to wonder on Donovan. I think we'll know before too long. Whoever it is, apparently he is close to signing to become UCLA's coach. Keep in mind, the tourney thing is conjecture from a hint or two from those in the know, but they were far from definitive hints. I don't know that we can say if this coach is still in the tourney or not, or if he is even a college coach at all. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

03-29-2013, 07:15 PM	#3332
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I am pretty sure the Bennett rumors are BS. UCLA is not hiring a slow ball coach. Honestly, I would be shocked if the new coach at UCLA, whoever he ends up being, has even one thing in common with Ben Howland. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

03-29-2013, 08:19 PM	#3335
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Michigan is playing like a team with no rhythm. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

03-29-2013, 01:15 PM	#3302
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	UCLA has officially submitted a contract offer to Stevens

03-29-2013, 02:20 PM	#3307
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	So Chief...what did Tracy mean? Shaka only makes sense?

03-29-2013, 03:33 PM	#3310
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Steve Hartman said it's going to be Pitino. Despite being an LA guy for his whole life, I doubt he has any sources. And he is an alum. Of course, it does explain the flight to Indy.

03-29-2013, 03:50 PM	#3312
NorvTurnerOverdrive College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2008	i just hope they don't poach hopkins. he's the cuse coach in waiting but boeheim may never retire. he's our best recruiter and the way bilas was gushing over the zone last night probably caught a few AD ears

03-29-2013, 04:19 PM	#3319
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	The knock on Marshall seems to be his just as big of a hardass as Howland, but probably not as good of an X & O's guy. So ya

03-29-2013, 05:43 PM	#3321
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I bet it is Buzz Williams

03-29-2013, 06:43 PM	#3326
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Some people have speculated that the coach announcement could come tonight, but I would be surprised. Someone else mentioned Tony Benentt

03-29-2013, 06:43 PM	#3327
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Butler's Brad Stevens stays philosophical on profession

03-29-2013, 07:13 PM	#3331
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I dont think he's a serious candidate, but he's been on the West Coast Certainly would make Howland seem like he's doing 40 minutes of hell

03-29-2013, 07:28 PM	#3334
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Pretty good read on Flip over at Rock M Nation for any Mizzou fans that might be interested...... The State of Mizzou Basketball: Flipadelphia - Rock M Nation

03-29-2013, 08:30 PM	#3337
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Michigan needs to play more of their 1-3-1 zone. Their regular defense sure isn't helping. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

03-29-2013, 09:06 PM	#3338
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Tough to watch your team play when it is obvious they aren't in the same league as their opponent. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

03-29-2013, 09:13 PM	#3339
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Michigan just can't get over the hump when they do start to make a move..

03-29-2013, 09:24 PM	#3340
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	I'm not sure why Michigan is so hellbent to not run the 1-3-1. Michigan's interior defense is so laughable at points it has to help to switch. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table. Last edited by Matthean : 03-29-2013 at 09:24 PM.

03-29-2013, 09:35 PM	#3341
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier

03-29-2013, 09:44 PM	#3344
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	holy shit, he hit that one from Grand Rapids

03-29-2013, 09:45 PM	#3345
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Fun game.

03-29-2013, 09:45 PM	#3346
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	WHAT A FUCKIN COMEBACK!

03-29-2013, 09:46 PM	#3347
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	I hope Tom Crean is watching this. With 1:15 to go and down 12 Crean gave up. Down 9 with just over a minute to go and Michigan ties it up. Sweet fuckin deal.

03-29-2013, 09:46 PM	#3348
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS

03-29-2013, 09:46 PM	#3349
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Overrrrtimmmme!

03-29-2013, 09:47 PM	#3350
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	That's the first we've seen that commercial...You know Buffalo Wild Wings waiting for that one.

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