WW CXLIX SPAWN IV - GAME OVER (Post 3845)

[Shiggles]

oh, and good morning all! :-)

Vote Darth

In case the previous one didnt still count from yesterday

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

He could claim I was tainted, like dubb was, that;s what I was referring to.

But that;s also impossible. We know Zinto died and the spawn did not remake the queen, so you couldn't be a spawnling.

[Shiggles]

Originally Posted by Shiggles

Mr abe is untained by any spawn. He is cleared

doh, i meant untainted >.<

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Danny

But that;s also impossible. We know Zinto died and the spawn did not remake the queen, so you couldn't be a spawnling.

I thought they could make another spawn queen

[Danny]

Any chance someone could show as exhausted from being infected as a spawn?

[hoopsguy]

They have to give up night actions to make the spawn queen ... going from memory here, as I don't have the 2nd "rules" tab open to quote directly.

[Danny]

"If the Spawn Queen dies, the Spawn Council may designate a new Spawn Queen by forgoing all attacks and secret role actions for one night. The new Spawn Queen may not keep any previous role they had."

[Shiggles]

Originally Posted by Danny

Any chance someone could show as exhausted from being infected as a spawn?

exhausted people from last night are the engineers (of which hoops has been cleared)

and Julio the seargeant at arms

[Danny]

I'm wondering if Shiggles was actually someone who was infected on night 4 making him exhausted for some reason. I'm not sure I see Shiggles as a starting spawn, but he wasn't a bad infection target.

[Abe Sargent]

What about the overlord? Could they have made it on a quiet night?

[Abe Sargent]

Thoughts for training today folkses?

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Shiggles

exhausted people from last night are the engineers (of which hoops has been cleared)

and Julio the seargeant at arms

Not last night, based on Dubb's transition time frame and the spawn scanner, it is likely the spawn bit someone Night four and they became a full spawn at the end of day 5. That happens to be the night you can un unexplained exhausted label.

[hoopsguy]

Danny - if there was a spawnling attack (by queen) that would have a high likelihood of showing spawn as exhausted. Again, going from memory on this one ...

Do you see someone that is exhausted that wasn't working last night? Because that would be noteworthy ...

[JAG]

A new queen could not have been made. The only night they have been queenless they killed saldana and Chief Rum.

[Danny]

It would have been night 4 the spawnling attack though. They couldnt have made a spawnling attack last night.

[Danny]

I don't really like the Abe or DV votes. I am deciding between Shiggles and Britrock. I laid out why I thought brit might be a spawn due to his votes a couple nights ago, and Shiggles for obvious reason.

[Shiggles]

wouldnt i have to be exhausted again though? we were all exhausted during the crew conversion/power down thing, then just me was the suspicious one ill admit, but doesnt that also mean i have to be exhausted to have done a night action to transform and stuff? im gonna go look at spawn roles and try to find that stealth spawn CF was throwin out

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

People sleep a lot better tonight than last night. Part of that is literal: tonight there are beds that they can sleep in. But there is also the bigger sense as you’ve found 2 spawn in 4 days and now have a Spawn detector. Fresh off this success, one of your scientists, britrock, is seen conducting further research.

Hoops & CF, the great Engineering buddy team, work through the night once more, this time on the Power Facilities. Chubby can be seen spending the night by the slave pen, while Chief Rum is seen, and then not seen, and then seen again, around the Crew Quarters.

Your Spawn fighting success is great, but you know that you still will also need to get off this planet before you can truly feel safe.

Locations

Building A:
Warehouse 4 7 cycles required for conversion
40 / 40 units filled
Warehouse 5 7 cycles required for conversion
26 / 40 units filled
Water Supply – 17 units Enough for 1 day at present rate consumption
Crystilium Supply – 49 units (at least 20 required for lift-off)

Slave Pens Fully Operational
Slave Pen 1 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 2 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 3 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 4 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present
Slave Pen 5 2 cycles required for conversion
4 slaves present

Building B:
Power Facilities Fully Operational
Power Facility 1 5 cycles required for conversion
Powering Building B
Power Facility 2 2 cycles required for conversion
Powering Building C
Power Facility 3 5 cycles required for conversion
Powering Building D
Power Facility 4 5 cycles required for conversion
Unused
Power Facility 5 5 cycles required for conversion
Unused

Water Plant Fully Operational 7 cycles required for conversion
Producing enough water for all Survivors each day

Building C:
Security HQ Fully Operational 2 cycles required for conversion

Armory Fully Operational 4 cycles required for conversion
18 phasers accounted for

Brig Fully Operational 4 cycles required for conversion
No crew being held

Building D:

Medical Facilities Fully Operational 4 cycles required for conversion

Scientists’ Lab Fully Operational 2 cycles required for conversion
2 Spawn Detected

Peremiter Fence
Offline

Ship
Warehouse 1 Converted Inaccessible
Warehouse 2 Converted Inaccessible
Warehouse 3 Converted Inaccessible

Officers’ Offices Fully Operational Converted
Crew Quarters Damaged; 9 sleeping berths; 11 cycles to repair Converted



The Crew

Command Staff
Captain - JAG
First Officer - Lonestargirl
Second Officer - Danny
Security Chief - Zinto Exhausted Armed with a 3 shot phaser


Chief Engineer - hoopsguy Exhausted
Engineers
Crimson Exhausted
Darth

Medical Staff
Doctor - saldana
Doctor - Shiggles Exhausted

Security Staff
Slavemaster - Chubby Exhausted
Sargent-at-Arms - Chief Rum Exhausted
Security Crewman - Julio

Scientists
GoldenEagle
britrock Exhausted
Trainer - Abe Sargent
Slaves
20 slaves accounted for

Deceased
mauboy - Lynched Day 2 SURVIVOR
Danny- Lynched Day 3 SURVIVOR
Autumn Killed Night 3 SURVIVOR
dubb Killed Night 3 SPAWN
Simbo Klice Lynched Day 4 SCRYING SPAWN

Day 5 has begun

Both Zinto and SHiggles with exhausted the night a likely spawn attack was made. Shiggles with n oway to explain it.

vote shiggles

[Danny]

"spawnling attack increases the chance that all spawns will become exhausted, especially those spawns who participate in a Spawnling Attack."

[Danny]

I'm sorry Shiggles, but that is a pretty damning piece of evidence there.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Danny

I don't really like the Abe or DV votes. I am deciding between Shiggles and Britrock. I laid out why I thought brit might be a spawn due to his votes a couple nights ago, and Shiggles for obvious reason.

Now that Shiggles has cleared me, I doubt the votes on me will stick. If Shiggy is a villager, then my clearing is good, and if not, then its meaningless. You find out two people by lynching Shiggles if he's a villager, rather than by lynching me. So basic WW math says vote elsewhere. I'd be okay voting him still, but I'd prefer to look elsewhere now.

[Barkeep49]

Julio becomes the first to try out one of the new tools created by the scientists as he goes down to the Water Plant.

[JAG]

Danny, you're arguing Shiggles is starting spawn with that argument. Can you explain how Shiggles performed an attack last night while in the brig? This morning Barkeep said repairs and conversions are done at the end of a cycle.

[Barkeep49]

Chubby takes some slaves down to Power Facility 1, hoping there is an engineer to oversee his work.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by JAG

Danny, you're arguing Shiggles is starting spawn with that argument. Can you explain how Shiggles performed an attack last night while in the brig? This morning Barkeep said repairs and conversions are done at the end of a cycle.

Hmmm, I didn't realize that. Then I am torn on it. Either there is some unknown mechanic which made shiggles become exhausted as a villager or there is some unknown mechanic that allowed a second wolf attack last night.

[Abe Sargent]

BK, if I forget to pm a Rest Command, at night, doe sit happen automatically?

I can't remember if this was answered earlier or not anymore, sorry.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Thoughts for training today folkses?

I would recommend making yourself security. Once we lift off, we won't really need much different than we already have and we're low on security personnel without anyone else we can spare for that duty.

[Danny]

That gives me enough doubt for now though

unvote shiggles

[Shiggles]

Only thing i see in spawn roles is the mind leech that can appear to not be exhausted, but will only not exhaust if not successful, or i think if the other spawn kill its target. And the unaware spawn, which, lightbulb, if that were the case, couldnt i still scan a spawn, and have us kill eachother? that would be an lol/stick it the the spawn move eh?

Unfortunetly i have no other information about the exhausted night other than what ive stated, i wasnt able to find a bed to sleep in. there was no attacks, i was not wounded, just tired. i figure SOMETHING would have keyed me into being suspicious about that, but i saw no evidence that leads to that route. so unless they are super gentle about how they abduct people or uber clean afterwords, someone would have witnessed something

[Shiggles]

off to lunch and gaming, ill check back periodically through it (cause i think itll be civ 4, and my friend takes really really long turns lol)

[Danny]

shiggles, an unaware spawn will not explode, it will show as clean.

[JAG]

Or Abe, you could hold off today and make Shiggles security tomorrow (assuming he isn't lynched) since a doctor won't be useful without the medical facility, but that would take a couple days to get benefit from it.

[Danny]

I am off as well, need to get smog check. be back after.

[hoopsguy]

BK - would a doctor scan on Unaware Spawn blow up both parties like it would for any other spawn role? Or would he show up like a villager to the doctor, allowing both parties to walk out of the room?

[Chubby]

Jag - do u want to order darth to work with me? Since its realtime he hopefully can't fake it

[Darth Vilus]

You wanna go chubster?

[JAG]

Darth, if you haven't already, please PM BK and let him know you would like to supervise 6 slaves for the conversion of power facility 1.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

BK, if I forget to pm a Rest Command, at night, doe sit happen automatically?

I can't remember if this was answered earlier or not anymore, sorry.

If someone does not send any PM it is assumed they want to sleep.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

BK - would a doctor scan on Unaware Spawn blow up both parties like it would for any other spawn role? Or would he show up like a villager to the doctor, allowing both parties to walk out of the room?

I recommend scanning an Unaware Spawn and finding out

[Darth Vilus]

Originally Posted by JAG

Darth, if you haven't already, please PM BK and let him know you would like to supervise 6 slaves for the conversion of power facility 1.

*mumbles*
Grrrrr, engineer, always under appreciated. Should have went to med school

[Barkeep49]

6 slaves are rounded up by DV to do work down at Power Facility 1.

[JAG]

During the day, is unaware of being a Spawn (and may not communicate with other Spawn), but will not seem to be a Spawn when tested by other players. At night, assumes normal Spawn powers.

The bolded part seems to indicate they will not be identified as Spawn by the doctor, spawn aware players, etc...

[Barkeep49]

"I notice one of the engineering tools is still available. GE use that on the science lab," JAG commands.

[JAG]

Assuming no faked work, we should be finished with conversion work after the day's deadline.

[JAG]

I also don't think anyone else should do other work now. No reason to potentially mutate yourselves for anything other than the vital work being done by folks who have already submitted their actions. If we get a bad roll and someone is mutated, it will be easier to find them in the days to come with fewer potential suspects.

[JAG]

Current vote as best I can tell:

4 Shiggles: CF (3081), Julio (3096), Chubby (3155), DV (3203)
2 DV: Shiggles (3101), Abe Sargent (3296)
1 Abe Sargent: JAG (3285)

[Shiggles]

Ok, i asked for clarification on the night where i was exhausted, and it was said that there were no available beds for use.

Oh and i was wondering if I was an unaware spawn, if i scan someone who is a spawn would i blow up as well? But no worries, because i would know if i was attacked, and i wasnt, i was just trying to find a bed. JAG or Julio could check security footage of that night, i would be in the quarters ^.^

[hoopsguy]

So since we have a few of the involved folks here ...

JAG, does your vote on Abe at this point suggest that you are playing for Abe = starting/unknown spawn? And that you think this is a better play than going after other players who could be starting spawn, unknown or otherwise?

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by Shiggles

Ok, i asked for clarification on the night where i was exhausted, and it was said that there were no available beds for use.

Oh and i was wondering if I was an unaware spawn, if i scan someone who is a spawn would i blow up as well? But no worries, because i would know if i was attacked, and i wasnt, i was just trying to find a bed. JAG or Julio could check security footage of that night, i would be in the quarters ^.^

9 beds, 8 people rested.

try again

[JAG]

I'm going with who I think is the most likely Spawn of the remaining players but yeah, I would not vote for someone who could not have possibly been starting Spawn just because it's a smaller pool of players than the mutated Spawn. My vote is based on Abe's poor voting history, other things about his posts (not much effort put into finding Spawn, other than performing his role of trainer not doing as much to help the survivors as others), and my inability to explain why he would not have been a target of the Spawn to this point.