The Trump Presidency – 2016

[CrescentMoonie]

Gorsuch is obviously qualified for the position. So was Garland. Trump may be the king of the idiots, but there are still partisan jackoffs populating most of both sides of the aisle.

[tarcone]

Originally Posted by Atocep

You mean, like emails?

Was it 4 or 5 months? I cant remember.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by Edward64

I'm not sure I understand the big deal about Gorsuch other than its sour grapes by the Dems. He seems to be well qualified, well thought of, and doesn't seem to be as extreme as Scalia.

Are you talking about the politicians or the people? I suspect that the main issue for the politicians is concern about getting primaried from the left, because many of the *people* on the left are bitter about Garland and they want their politicians to fight at all costs.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by tarcone

Was it 4 or 5 months? I cant remember.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/28/politi...mail-timeline/

Investigation into her emails began late 2012.

[Brian Swartz]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Are you talking about the politicians or the people? I suspect that the main issue for the politicians is concern about getting primaried from the left, because many of the *people* on the left are bitter about Garland and they want their politicians to fight at all costs.

I think they should be bitter about Garland. I'd be right behind Schumer(for probably the third or fourth time in his career, ever) if he went the 'we're filibustering until Trump sends us the rightful nominee Garland' route. Instead, he basically said that Gorsuch didn't convince him that he would be independent and follow the law. I think that's namby-pamby horse manure. Will be interesting to watch, because I think Gorsuch is exactly the kind of justice that should be on the court ... but I hate the idea of anyone benefitting from the kind of stonewalling nonsense that got us to this point in the first place.

[JPhillips]

You can't bring a knife to a gun fight. Remember that several GOP senators were laying the groundwork for never confirming a Dem nominee and reducing the court to seven members. Not only would the politics within the party be bad if the Dems cave, but capitulating on Gorsuch rewards the behavior of the GOP. They'll still get Gorsuch, but the Dems better make them own the end of the judicial filibuster. In the end that's at least a decent consolation prize.

[tarcone]

Yay. More stupidity by the legislative branch. Games and more games.

We need to reform our system. But Im afraid this system is almost broken beyond being fixed.

[Jas_lov]

The right move for the Dems is to filibuster Gorsuch. Keeps the base energized and is payback for Garland. I get a kick out of the argument that the Dems should play nice and wait for the next SC nominee to filibuster. McConnell will just invoke the nuclear option for that pick. He held up Obama's nominee for almost a year. Dems can't just roll over on this one. Playing to the middle doesn't work as Trump showed.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by tarcone

Here is a way to save money AND protest our borders.
Shut down bases in foreign countries and bring all those soldiers home and place them on the mexican border. Cut off aid to other countries and spend it at home.

Problem solved.

Having bases throughout the world is how we protect our borders. Tough to start a war with us when we can strike from so many places and have so many allies.

[tarcone]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Having bases throughout the world is how we protect our borders. Tough to start a war with us when we can strike from so many places and have so many allies.

We can do that from here already. I think the technology has made that possible.

Time to put up the laser sats.

[Edward64]

Trump was quoted below today.

The current NK stalemate will eventually lead to intercontinental missile capability and will be a much bigger threat then. I like Trump's bravado about not kicking the can down the road for another admin to deal with. Somehow, I don't think this is a bluff so China starts applying more pressure, he would keep all options on the table.

Trump Says United States Can 'Solve' North Korea Without China - NBC News

President Donald Trump said he can "solve" North Korea's weapons testing program without the help of that country's strongest ally, according to an interview published Sunday in the Financial Times.

"If China is not going to solve North Korea, we will," Trump told the British broadsheet. "That is what I am telling you."

When the interviewer followed up, pressing Trump on whether such unilateral action could be successful, the president responded with a single word: "Totally."

Trump did not provide a larger strategy or additional details, telling the paper: "I don't have to say anymore."

"I'm not going to tell you," Trump said when asked about various strategies the U.S. could use to motivate North Korea. "You know, I am not the United States of the past where we tell you where we are going to hit in the Middle East. Where they say — I used it in the speeches — 'We will be attacking Mosul in four months'. A month later, 'We will be attacking Mosul in three months, in two months, in one month.' And why are they talking? There is no reason to talk."

[JPhillips]

The WH is saying Kushner is currently in Iraq.

Of all the strange things in the Trump admin, Kushner as defacto Secretary of State is the weirdest.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

The WH is saying Kushner is currently in Iraq.

Of all the strange things in the Trump admin, Kushner as defacto Secretary of State is the weirdest.

I think he maybe misunderstood his father-in-law when he told him "Check out that rack"

[SplitPersonality1]

Originally Posted by cartman

I think he maybe misunderstood his father-in-law when he told him "Check out that rack"

Regardless of your political bent, that was a very funny line. Well played cartman

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by SplitPersonality1

Regardless of your political bent, that was a very funny line. Well played cartman

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by tarcone

We can do that from here already. I think the technology has made that possible.

Time to put up the laser sats.

Militarizing space won't have negative ramifications with Russia or China at ALL.

I see no way that proposal can possibly fail.

[CrescentMoonie]

Bannon Removed From The National Security Council

Is Putin starting to lose his grip on the White House?

[Easy Mac]

I'm willing to praise Trump when he does smart, reasonable things. This seems smart and reasonable (although with the caveat that it shouldn't have gotten this far). So well done.

Now, lets move on to infrastructure and stop with the tax reform and health care.

[JPhillips]

For fuck's sake.

The EPA is proposing to eliminate some rules limiting child exposure to lead. The total cost of the rules is about the same as half a dozen trips to Mar-a-Lago, with the bonus that we'll pay a lot more later for the costs of the low IQ and increased crime!

[bronconick]

Everyone's children can turn out like Flint now.

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by bronconick

Everyone's children can turn out like Flint now.

I'm sure some of them will be like Lady Jaye.

[stevew]

Welcome to Virginia Joe, and to your fate!

[Easy Mac]

So Devin Nunes can go back to organizing his sock drawer, or whatever else he's mentally capable of doing for 2 minutes a day.

[SirFozzie]

Seriously, even if nothing's there that would directly implicate the Trump team, they're doing a fantastic job of making it seem like there is :/

[tarcone]

Originally Posted by SackAttack

Militarizing space won't have negative ramifications with Russia or China at ALL.

I see no way that proposal can possibly fail.

Who cares? We will have laser sats. Knock out thos nukes. Take out a leader or 2.

I see nop downside.

[Edward64]

Interesting read in internal "family" politics. I think Trump needs to be careful, I can see Bannon being spiteful and dishing out some real dirt.

Attention Required! | Cloudflare

Donald Trump’s chief strategist Stephen Bannon has called the president’s senior advisor and son-in-law Jared Kushner a “cuck” and a “globalist” during a time of high tension between the two top aides, several Trump administration officials told The Daily Beast.

The fighting between Kushner and Bannon has been “nonstop” in recent weeks, according to sources who spoke on condition of anonymity. It’s been an “open secret” that Bannon and Kushner often clash “face-to-face,” according to senior officials.

One official said Bannon has lately complained about Kushner trying to “shiv him and push him out the door” and likened him to a fifth column in the White House.

“[Steve] recently vented to us about Jared being a ‘globalist’ and a ‘cuck’…He actually said ‘cuck,’ as in “cuckservative,’” the administration official told The Daily Beast.

“Cuck,” a portmanteau of “cuckold” and “conservative,” has become a favorite slur on the right, used like a sexually and racially charged version of “RINO,” a Republican In Name Only. “Globalist” is a term typically used by nationalist, pro-Trump right-wingers against political opponents; however, the term has also come under fire for at times carrying anti-Semitic tones. (Kushner is Jewish.)
:
A Republican source close to Trump told The Daily Beast confirmed this level of insecurity over Bannon’s reputation coming from the president, and mentioned that the president was “irked” after catching a glimpse of a recent cold-open on Saturday Night Live.

Bannon was depicted as a Grim Reaper character who manipulates Alec Baldwin’s President Trump into sowing global chaos and diplomatic breakdown. At the end of the scene, “Bannon” tells Trump to give him his Oval Office desk back. Baldwin’s Trump calls the Reaper “Mr. President,” and then proceeds to go sit at his own much smaller, shorter desk, where the president plays with a kid’s toy instead of governing.

"Did you see this crap?" Trump asked the confidante, referring to the SNL sketch.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Learn something new every day. Never seen/heard that portmanteau until just now. Clearly I'm not associated with enough conservatives I guess.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Learn something new every day. Never seen/heard that portmanteau until just now. Clearly I'm not associated with enough conservatives I guess.

It's the word of choice for the 4chan/T_D subreddit part of the Trump base.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by tarcone

Who cares? We will have laser sats. Knock out thos nukes. Take out a leader or 2.

I see nop downside.

Your thinking is too small. Build a time machine and kill our enemies when they were babies.

No downside.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Your thinking is too small. Build a time machine and kill our enemies when they were babies.

No downside.

Yeah they could always build a wall to keep lasers out.

[Easy Mac]

If Steve Bannon thinks Jared Kushner is a "cuck"... what does that mean he thinks about Ivanka?

Also, I'm glad to be alive in a time when "cuck" and "globalist" are equal insults to a certain part of the population.

[tarcone]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Your thinking is too small. Build a time machine and kill our enemies when they were babies.

No downside.

Now this is thinking.

We need this technology for when the machines take over. So let us get on it now.

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

If Steve Bannon thinks Jared Kushner is a "cuck"... what does that mean he thinks about Ivanka?

That he thinks he has a shot with her?

[bob]

So, predictions if / what we do in Syria?

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by bob

So, predictions if / what we do in Syria?

Unless Russia/Syria backs down, Trump will have to do some sort of military action. My guess is some sort of no-fly zone plus additional US troops on the ground in friendly areas.

He's already said a red line has been crossed so don't see him not do anything.

[tarcone]

Tired of the Middle East.

Ban muslims from coming here and pull everything and everybody out. Start drilling here and become self sufficient and let them and God sort it out.

[HomerSimpson98]

lol

[ISiddiqui]

lol, indeed. Especially since this current crisis was only brought upon because the Administration said we'll let the Russians take the lead in the Middle East. Oh wait, they don't give a shit that Assad is going to use chemical weapons? Oops... Surprise!

[tarcone]

He isnt the 1st to use them and wont be the last.
So we get Assad out. The what? We have another unstable country that some extremist group will claim as their own.
And things will be worse.

It is a broken record. Never should have taken Hussein out of Iraq or Amin out of Libya.
Strong men in those countries are a must. But the stupidity that keeps happening because they are tribal people, will continue to happen.

Artificial borders placed by the West dont mean squat to them.

The Middle East is a money pit that takes lives.

What does any of this intervention do?

[JPhillips]

“I think we’ve had one of the most successful 13 weeks in the history of the presidency”

DJT to pool reporters

[SirFozzie]

We're headed for a shutdown, aren't we?

Freedom Caucus chair: Government shutdown isn't likely - POLITICO

Caucus Chairman Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), who helped orchestrate the last government shutdown, said the Caucus has "six or seven" leverage points with the Trump administration to get what they wanted attached to a spending bill.

"The reason why I don't believe that there will be a shutdown is because of the other leverage points," said Meadows, who sat alongside Freedom Caucus members Reps. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) and Justin Amash (R-Mich.). " … In any Congress, you have only two or three leverage points on must-pass pieces of legislation. This year, we've got six or seven different leverage points, and so those leverage points provide another opportunity."

Those leverage points, Jordan said earlier during the panel, included repealing and replacing Obamacare, overhauling the U.S. tax code and securing funding for the border wall, all of which President Donald Trump repeatedly promised during his presidential campaign.

"I think those other leverage points allows the shutdown talk to be minimized in a couple of weeks because there are other things that are following right behind," Meadows said.

This almostsounds like "We have so much leverage. So much much leverage. People will be tired of leverage"

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Atocep

It's the word of choice for the 4chan/T_D subreddit part of the Trump base.

Wait ... that exists?

Srsly?

I had no idea.

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Wait ... that exists?

Srsly?

I had no idea.

Much like TV channels and podcasts, everything exists in those places now.

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Wait ... that exists?

Srsly?

I had no idea.

Yeah. 4chan has a huge (YUUUUGE) Trump supporting contingent. Basically angry white dudes mad that they've failed at life and that no girls will ever fuck them.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

DJT to pool reporters

It's only been 11 weeks Donald, come back when its 13.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by Izulde

Yeah. 4chan has a huge (YUUUUGE) Trump supporting contingent. Basically angry white dudes mad that they've failed at life and that no girls will ever fuck them.

Don't forget the subreddit algebra for the_donald (correlation of overlapping subreddits amongst users of the primary sub when you add or subtract another subreddit to see what remains).



(source: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ine-following/ )


4chan/reddit's trump userbase are just bad people, basically.

[SirFozzie]

sounds like a Syria strike is coming soon.

[SirFozzie]

Dola:

It has begun.

Jesse Rodriguez on Twitter: "NBC News: US military has launched more than 50 missile strikes on al-Shayrat military airfield near Homs, Syria"

[Easy Mac]

#syriahoax

[Edward64]

Seems to be measured as its focused on the airbase responsible for the chemical attack.