werewolf LIV! Terror at the country club (GAME OVER WOLVES WIN) - Page 7

MrBug708 · 09-05-2007, 10:25 PM

Unvote - Barkeep
Vote - RPI-Fan

Barkeep49 · 09-05-2007, 10:25 PM

unvote Neon
Vote DT

For his nonvoting stance.

Crim · 09-05-2007, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

DT, no vote today means you get my vote tomorrow.

I need to think about this more after the dealine. I'm gonna vote, but I don't feel good about it. Nor about what path is saying...

st.cronin · 09-05-2007, 10:26 PM

Just a note, its possible Neon is lying about his role but is still a villager. That would be ballsy, but might work.

RendeR · 09-05-2007, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBug708

People voted for Neon because he seems to want to start a bandwagon on everyone else. From personal experience I would do my best to get anyonet o vote for people other then me so I dont blame him

The problem here is that with his reveal he shows himself to have played really poorly here. As the seer he really shouldn't have been leapfrog-voting all damned night. it just caused suspicion that he couldn;t turn away because its day 1 and there is no evidence to protect him.

Barkeep49 · 09-05-2007, 10:27 PM

FTR I think this was a reveal that shouldn't have happened. It looked like we were going to go down with a tie (as Neon could have changed his vote in self preservation). Now we've burned the friggin seer day 1.

Alan T · 09-05-2007, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Just a note, its possible Neon is lying about his role but is still a villager. That would be ballsy, but might work.

Worst move ever.

Out yourself and the real seer and do all of the wolves work for them.. Anyone doing that would be my day one vote forever.

Crim · 09-05-2007, 10:28 PM

VOTE PATH

explanation to follow, gotta get it in quick.

RendeR · 09-05-2007, 10:28 PM

VOTE COUNT?

Barkeep49 · 09-05-2007, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Just a note, its possible Neon is lying about his role but is still a villager. That would be ballsy, but might work.

That would be ballsy.

RendeR · 09-05-2007, 10:28 PM

Note to self, when running a game don't multitask near deadline.

Neon_Chaos · 09-05-2007, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RendeR

The problem here is that with his reveal he shows himself to have played really poorly here. As the seer he really shouldn't have been leapfrog-voting all damned night. it just caused suspicion that he couldn;t turn away because its day 1 and there is no evidence to protect him.

I DIDN'T LEAPFROG!

AlanT voted for me because he said I was bandwagoning, and OF COURSE I would switch my vote over to him.

Crap. Get your facts straight people.

RendeR · 09-05-2007, 10:29 PM

UNVOTE ST CRONIN
VOTE DADDYTORGO

Barkeep49 · 09-05-2007, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T

Worst move ever.

Out yourself and the real seer and do all of the wolves work for them.. Anyone doing that would be my day one vote forever.

Really? If you're the seer you announce the lie? Why not scan him that night instead? At least that way you get the confirmed 1-1? Also makes Neon a more likely night kill. No if I'm the seer I don't announce there at all and wouldn't after he came up clear from the scan.

st.cronin · 09-05-2007, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Really? If you're the seer you announce the lie? Why not scan him that night instead? At least that way you get the confirmed 1-1? Also makes Neon a more likely night kill. No if I'm the seer I don't announce there at all and wouldn't after he came up clear from the scan.

Exactly.

Barkeep49 · 09-05-2007, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

I DIDN'T LEAPFROG!

AlanT voted for me because he said I was bandwagoning, and OF COURSE I would switch my vote over to him.

Crap. Get your facts straight people.

See this sort of defense would have been better a little while ago

. I'd have loved to have worked through this with you.

Alan T · 09-05-2007, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Really? If you're the seer you announce the lie? Why not scan him that night instead? At least that way you get the confirmed 1-1? Also makes Neon a more likely night kill. No if I'm the seer I don't announce there at all and wouldn't after he came up clear from the scan.

If I am the seer and someone claims they are the seer when about to be lynched, I dont waste a seer scan on them. I assume they are bad.

Whether or not I reveal right away depends on where in the game we are, but I definitly chalk that person up to be a wolf.

RendeR · 09-05-2007, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

I DIDN'T LEAPFROG!

AlanT voted for me because he said I was bandwagoning, and OF COURSE I would switch my vote over to him.

Crap. Get your facts straight people.

Facts or not, you brought negative attention to yourself and if you are indeed the seer it was a bad play. As the seer you have to protect yourself. if you want to be the out front in the open seer (like I tried to do in the clue game) you have to make sure people aren't coming after YOU because then you end up outing yourself.

When you saw the votes coming your way you should have just relaxed a bit and let the flow move to someone else.

Lathum · 09-05-2007, 10:31 PM

deadline

st.cronin · 09-05-2007, 10:31 PM

I lost count, but we may very well have got a tie there.

RendeR · 09-05-2007, 10:32 PM

DINGALINGALING!

Neon_Chaos · 09-05-2007, 10:32 PM

I don't need people lecturing me.

As a note, I am scanning Hoopsguy tonight.

Lathum · 09-05-2007, 10:32 PM

will be a minute to calculate results.

Remember if you have a night action you must submit it ASAP

Neon_Chaos · 09-05-2007, 10:33 PM

So the bodyguard better keep my ass protected.

Crim · 09-05-2007, 10:33 PM

Only because (in 1.5 pages of frantic scanning of posts, plus quick-posting as needed) path seemed to jump on people for 1. Not posting (I can see how this is an indicator though) and 2. Saying they didn't want a day one lynch...

I need to give this more thought, because I see that others are agreeing with path (specifically about DT not voting is suspicious) but I don't see how a day one lynch helps us. I only ever remember reading one game with a day one wolf lynch. Is it common at all?

Well I guess we're about to find out...

And, path, once I read the thread I'll comment further about suspecting you or not. I just felt pressured to vote someone, and have some reason for it, so there ya go.

RendeR · 09-05-2007, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

So the bodyguard better keep my ass protected.

only saves you for tonight, tomorrow night you end up dead.

molson · 09-05-2007, 10:35 PM

I hate the nonvoting stance, but I don't see how that makes DT a wolf. Why would he want to stand out?

Alan T · 09-05-2007, 10:36 PM

Is Render playing this way because he's the hidden convert and trying to draw attention to himself?

path12 · 09-05-2007, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crim

Only because (in 1.5 pages of frantic scanning of posts, plus quick-posting as needed) path seemed to jump on people for 1. Not posting (I can see how this is an indicator though) and 2. Saying they didn't want a day one lynch...

I need to give this more thought, because I see that others are agreeing with path (specifically about DT not voting is suspicious) but I don't see how a day one lynch helps us. I only ever remember reading one game with a day one wolf lynch. Is it common at all?

Well I guess we're about to find out...

And, path, once I read the thread I'll comment further about suspecting you or not. I just felt pressured to vote someone, and have some reason for it, so there ya go.

I've got no problem with your vote, Crim. I'm pretty consistent on my stance -- a) that those who don't check in are my first day 1 choices and b) except in very rare cases (the clue game for example), I'm one of those who supports the idea that lynches are a good thing.

Now I guess I can add c) not voting on purpose. That both helps you hide a voting record and is not helpful for the village.

PurdueBrad · 09-05-2007, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson

I hate the nonvoting stance, but I don't see how that makes DT a wolf. Why would he want to stand out?

I agree with this, I only see how it would've pointed that way if he purposely unbroke a tie to lynch someone.

Neon_Chaos · 09-05-2007, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RendeR

only saves you for tonight, tomorrow night you end up dead.

I still have my item. It's a 25% chance to save me from the wolves. I'm not using it tonight, guys. Will reserve it for tomorrow.

path12 · 09-05-2007, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

I agree with this, I only see how it would've pointed that way if he purposely unbroke a tie to lynch someone.

Or by not voting preserved a tie, or knew we were villager/villager and it didn't matter.

Neon_Chaos · 09-05-2007, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T

Is Render playing this way because he's the hidden convert and trying to draw attention to himself?

God, I hope not. With the BG busy keeping my ass safe...

well, at least we'll know if a conversion occurs, right?

DaddyTorgo · 09-05-2007, 10:38 PM

blah. This is a fustercluck

RendeR · 09-05-2007, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T

Is Render playing this way because he's the hidden convert and trying to draw attention to himself?

Think about that post for a bit Alan. If I were the hidden convert why would I bring attention to myself. If I'm lynched I'm lynched, that doesn't help the wolves. I want them to try killing me, this certainly isn't a the play style that would garner me a wolf targeting, they'd be more inclined to ignore me as the rest of you will probably lynch me at some point.

PurdueBrad · 09-05-2007, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

Or by not voting preserved a tie, or knew we were villager/villager and it didn't matter.

Yea, true and better explained than my post.

DaddyTorgo · 09-05-2007, 10:39 PM

well, this should be interesting

Neon_Chaos · 09-05-2007, 10:40 PM

has anyone a quick vote count?

EagleFan · 09-05-2007, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RendeR

Think about that post for a bit Alan. If I were the hidden convert why would I bring attention to myself. If I'm lynched I'm lynched, that doesn't help the wolves. I want them to try killing me, this certainly isn't a the play style that would garner me a wolf targeting, they'd be more inclined to ignore me as the rest of you will probably lynch me at some point.

I kind of agree with this.

If one was the hidden convert they may come out and declare themselves to be the seer.

molson · 09-05-2007, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

blah. This is a fustercluck

You certainly didn't do much to help clear things up.

RendeR · 09-05-2007, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I kind of agree with this.

If one was the hidden convert they may come out and declare themselves to be the seer.

**CLANK**

*picks up jaw*

DaddyTorgo · 09-05-2007, 10:42 PM

I'm the vote-winner. But I'm not going to die.

path12 · 09-05-2007, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I kind of agree with this.

If one was the hidden convert they may come out and declare themselves to be the seer.

That's a helluva good point. I hadn't thought of that.

Crim · 09-05-2007, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

except in very rare cases (the clue game for example), I'm one of those who supports the idea that lynches are a good thing.

Okee... that was my only game.

Neon_Chaos · 09-05-2007, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I kind of agree with this.

If one was the hidden convert they may come out and declare themselves to be the seer.

True. But the hidden convert wouldn't have an item to help block wolf attacks now, would he?

path12 · 09-05-2007, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crim

Okee... that was my only game.

And why I didn't mind the vote.

Neon_Chaos · 09-05-2007, 10:44 PM

DT's most probably the "duke" role.

path12 · 09-05-2007, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

True. But the hidden convert wouldn't have an item to help block wolf attacks now, would he?

Depends on if it's random distribution or not. I'll have to recheck the rules but I don't remember it being said one way or the other.

Alan T · 09-05-2007, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

DT's most probably the "duke" role.

Thats my assumption based on his comment

Lathum · 09-05-2007, 10:45 PM

RPI-Fan- 5 Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107), St.Cronin (296) Path12 (298) MrBug (301)
AlanT 3 MrDNA (143), Neon Chaos (292), PerdueBrad (297)
DaddyTorgo 3- alanT (299), Barkeep (302), render (313)
ChiefRum- 1 Passacaglia (115)
EagleFan-1 RaidersArmy (140)
MrDNA- 1 ArlingtonColt
HoopsGuy -1 EagleFan (167),
Path12- 1 Crim (308)
Neon_Chaos- 1 Oliegirl (199)
St.Cronin- 2 Molson (148) RPIFan (291)

Final vote count. Writeup coming

09-05-2007, 10:26 PM	#304
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Just a note, its possible Neon is lying about his role but is still a villager. That would be ballsy, but might work. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

09-05-2007, 10:28 PM	#309
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	VOTE COUNT? __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

09-05-2007, 10:28 PM	#311
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Note to self, when running a game don't multitask near deadline. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

09-05-2007, 10:29 PM	#313
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	UNVOTE ST CRONIN VOTE DADDYTORGO __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

09-05-2007, 10:31 PM	#320
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I lost count, but we may very well have got a tie there. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

09-05-2007, 10:25 PM	#301
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Unvote - Barkeep Vote - RPI-Fan

09-05-2007, 10:25 PM	#302
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	unvote Neon Vote DT For his nonvoting stance.

09-05-2007, 10:27 PM	#306
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	FTR I think this was a reveal that shouldn't have happened. It looked like we were going to go down with a tie (as Neon could have changed his vote in self preservation). Now we've burned the friggin seer day 1.

09-05-2007, 10:28 PM	#308
Crim College Benchwarmer Join Date: Dec 2003	VOTE PATH explanation to follow, gotta get it in quick.

09-05-2007, 10:31 PM	#319
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	deadline

09-05-2007, 10:32 PM	#321
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	DINGALINGALING! __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

09-05-2007, 10:32 PM	#322
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	I don't need people lecturing me. As a note, I am scanning Hoopsguy tonight. __________________ Come and see.

09-05-2007, 10:32 PM	#323
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	will be a minute to calculate results. Remember if you have a night action you must submit it ASAP

09-05-2007, 10:33 PM	#324
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	So the bodyguard better keep my ass protected. __________________ Come and see.

09-05-2007, 10:33 PM	#325
Crim College Benchwarmer Join Date: Dec 2003	Only because (in 1.5 pages of frantic scanning of posts, plus quick-posting as needed) path seemed to jump on people for 1. Not posting (I can see how this is an indicator though) and 2. Saying they didn't want a day one lynch... I need to give this more thought, because I see that others are agreeing with path (specifically about DT not voting is suspicious) but I don't see how a day one lynch helps us. I only ever remember reading one game with a day one wolf lynch. Is it common at all? Well I guess we're about to find out... And, path, once I read the thread I'll comment further about suspecting you or not. I just felt pressured to vote someone, and have some reason for it, so there ya go.

09-05-2007, 10:35 PM	#327
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I hate the nonvoting stance, but I don't see how that makes DT a wolf. Why would he want to stand out?

09-05-2007, 10:36 PM	#328
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Is Render playing this way because he's the hidden convert and trying to draw attention to himself?

09-05-2007, 10:38 PM	#334
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	blah. This is a fustercluck

09-05-2007, 10:39 PM	#337
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	well, this should be interesting

09-05-2007, 10:40 PM	#338
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	has anyone a quick vote count? __________________ Come and see.

09-05-2007, 10:42 PM	#342
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I'm the vote-winner. But I'm not going to die.

09-05-2007, 10:44 PM	#347
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	DT's most probably the "duke" role. __________________ Come and see.

09-05-2007, 10:45 PM	#350
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	RPI-Fan- 5 Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107), St.Cronin (296) Path12 (298) MrBug (301) AlanT 3 MrDNA (143), Neon Chaos (292), PerdueBrad (297) DaddyTorgo 3- alanT (299), Barkeep (302), render (313) ChiefRum- 1 Passacaglia (115) EagleFan-1 RaidersArmy (140) MrDNA- 1 ArlingtonColt HoopsGuy -1 EagleFan (167), Path12- 1 Crim (308) Neon_Chaos- 1 Oliegirl (199) St.Cronin- 2 Molson (148) RPIFan (291) Final vote count. Writeup coming

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