Werewolf LI Major League (GAME OVER!!! INDIANS--GOOD GUYS--WIN!!!) - Page 7

hoopsguy · 08-07-2007, 04:58 PM

Votes as of Post #300:
Barkeep - JE (152), Pass (283), Purdue (291)
Hoops - Barkeep (74), Lathum (75)
NTN - KWhit (212), Path (278)
Purdue - Cronin (160)
Cronin - Torgo (162)

Not voted - Celeval, MikeVic, Hoops, NTN, Gonzo

MikeVic · 08-07-2007, 05:00 PM

I want to keep hoopsguy on, since he seems to be doing a lot of the work and helping so far. I'll go with the majority right now and

VOTE BARKEEP

so that hoops has a greater chance to survive today.

st.cronin · 08-07-2007, 05:07 PM

I'm going to move my vote, which is out of character for me (normally I never move my vote on day 1 except as self preservation). But I feel pretty strongly that we'll benefit from having Barkeep and hoopsguy both around. So:

unvote Will Purdue
Vote ntndeacon

hoopsguy · 08-07-2007, 05:19 PM

If we have a tie between NTN and Barkeep then I believe that Barkeep got the earlier vote - don't think there were any unvotes prior to the first listed votes.

Barkeep - JE (152), Pass (283), Purdue (291), MikeVic (302)
NTN - KWhit (212), Path (278), Cronin (162)
Hoops - Barkeep (74), Lathum (75)
Cronin - Torgo (162)

Not voted - Celeval, Hoops, NTN, Gonzo

hoopsguy · 08-07-2007, 05:23 PM

I have very little interest in posting the vote that buries Barkeep today. I think he is playing a little frustrated at the moment, but I don't think he comes after me with the gusto he did yesterday as a wolf. It just doesn't seem like a value play for their faction to me.

NTN - I have him with a bunch of other people in the middle of my super-solid Day 1 trust list. A spot that he usually occupies in just about every game we play together based on lack of strong impressions. As of right now I'll vote for him instead of BK. And I'll need to put that vote out in about 15-20 minutes as I don't know if I'll be around for the deadline.

MikeVic · 08-07-2007, 05:27 PM

You make a good point hoops, and I was voting for Barkeep to make sure you don't go. I don't think either you, Barkeep, or NTN are wolves at this point. I have early suspicions about a couple others, but nothing concrete yet.

I might do an unvote and vote for someone else before the current hour is up.

Barkeep49 · 08-07-2007, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I'm going to go ahead and put a vote in on Barkeep. He didn't really answer my question about his confusing statements yesterday, and he still has his vote on hoops, who really seems to be part of helping the village.

VOTE BARKEEP49

What question? I thought I had quoted you earlier and asked for you to restate any questions you wanted me to answer. Hoops asked a question which I dutifully answered.

hoopsguy · 08-07-2007, 05:32 PM

Mike, what have you seen in NTN's play so far that makes you think he is not a wolf, other than just the statistical likelihood that more players are villagers than wolves?

I've obviously put more thought into Barkeep's position/play than just about anyone else in the game, given his early vote on me. If there is something specific about NTN's play that says villager then I'll look hard at voting for another candidate.

Barkeep49 · 08-07-2007, 05:33 PM

I'm fine with NTN being voted off since he's so dangerous UTR. I'm going to be around at lynch but will move my vote that direction now, though obviously it is in my self defense as well.

Unvote hoopsguy
Vote NTN

Lathum · 08-07-2007, 05:34 PM

UNVOTE HOOPSGUY
VOTE NTNDEACON

lets keep it close.

Obviously NTN will vote for barkeep and vice versa

st.cronin · 08-07-2007, 05:35 PM

Well, I'd say hoops is off the hook.

Lathum · 08-07-2007, 05:36 PM

hmmm, interesting.

looks like me and Barkeep are now tied together

hoopsguy · 08-07-2007, 05:37 PM

Dueling bandwagons emerging! First Barkeep, now NTN.

Votes as of Post #310:
NTN - KWhit (212), Path (278), Cronin (303), Barkeep (309), Lathum (310)
Barkeep - JE (152), Pass (283), Purdue (291), MikeVic (302)
Cronin - Torgo (162)

Not voted - Celeval, Hoops, NTN, Gonzo

st.cronin · 08-07-2007, 05:38 PM

If and when ntn shows up, he'll almost certainly vote for BK, which means that BK is essentially in the lead.

hoopsguy · 08-07-2007, 05:39 PM

OK, I'm now in a position where I can post freely in terms of today's vote. With a 5-4 race right now and heading out the door, I'm pretty much compelled to vote for one of these guys or it is a throwaway.

Guys that have personally made me a little nervous: KWhit, Pass, MikeVic. However, I'm not going to be around to lead a largely aimless Day 1 charge at any of these guys so I'll vote on one of the leaders. I'm not expecting deadline voting challenges going forward ...

VOTE NTNDEACON

MikeVic · 08-07-2007, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Mike, what have you seen in NTN's play so far that makes you think he is not a wolf, other than just the statistical likelihood that more players are villagers than wolves?

I've obviously put more thought into Barkeep's position/play than just about anyone else in the game, given his early vote on me. If there is something specific about NTN's play that says villager then I'll look hard at voting for another candidate.

I may be wrong, but I believe NTN was first to suggest using 4 step-it-ups at a time. Which we haev been running with since then, and makes so much sense. Why would a wolf give such a key piece of strategy?

MikeVic · 08-07-2007, 05:42 PM

Is it usually a smart move to mention who you think could be a wolf, and why? Even if it's a wild stab out there?

MikeVic · 08-07-2007, 05:44 PM

Also, I hope that

DaddyTorgo, Celeval, Path, PurdueBrad

all put in their step-it-ups!

path12 · 08-07-2007, 05:45 PM

Jack Parkman is out until much later tonight.

Lathum · 08-07-2007, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVic

Is it usually a smart move to mention who you think could be a wolf, and why? Even if it's a wild stab out there?

absolutly.

It is very suspiscous to hit and run as we call it.

It is also considered bad form, even though there are times I do it on purpose.

path12 · 08-07-2007, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVic

Also, I hope that

DaddyTorgo, Celeval, Path, PurdueBrad

all put in their step-it-ups!

Jack Parkman did.

Lathum · 08-07-2007, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVic

Also, I hope that

DaddyTorgo, Celeval, Path, PurdueBrad

all put in their step-it-ups!

I still think we need 5

Lathum · 08-07-2007, 05:46 PM

dola- I think DT needs to be looked at closer considering his throw away vote.

st.cronin · 08-07-2007, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

dola- I think DT needs to be looked at closer considering his throw away vote.

It was hardly a throw away vote, he tried very hard to talk people into voting for me.

Lathum · 08-07-2007, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

It was hardly a throw away vote, he tried very hard to talk people into voting for me.

lol, true.

Passacaglia · 08-07-2007, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

What question? I thought I had quoted you earlier and asked for you to restate any questions you wanted me to answer. Hoops asked a question which I dutifully answered.

I replied to that post, and asked a question. You posted later in the thread, but didn't answer the question. Perhaps you missed it? I gave you a while to answer it, before voting for you.

MikeVic · 08-07-2007, 06:01 PM

Ok, well, the first name that comes to mind is KWhit. He first voted for NTN, who I believe isn't a wolf, with the convenience added that he just didn't want to choose sides in the Barkeep vs hoops battle. But that's the only cause for suspicion I have right now.

The second name that comes to mind is path12. It could just be his character's personality, but he volunteered at least twice to step-it-up. But then he said we should put another high-class player to test out the talent/movie role theory. But someone also mentioned that a wolf could use "I only have a couple step-it-ups left" as a reason why they're hanging around. He voted for hoops without an explanation, until I asked about it. But his reason sounded solid enough. The vote also happened to be NTN, but I would think the wolves would disguise their actions better than back-to-back votes.

So that's what I'm thinking right now. I don't think hoops or NTN are wolves, so that leaves me voting for Barkeep right now to keep the other two aboard.

MikeVic · 08-07-2007, 06:02 PM

Dola,

The "but then he said we should put another high-class player to test out the talent/movie role theory" is an argument that he isn't a wolf. It sounds like I made it an argument that supports him being a wolf.

Passacaglia · 08-07-2007, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I replied to that post, and asked a question. You posted later in the thread, but didn't answer the question. Perhaps you missed it? I gave you a while to answer it, before voting for you.

For the record, I'm referring to post 249. There's a lot of sentiment in here that we don't want to off Barkeep, since he will be valuable in later days, and I do see that -- ntn always makes me nervous since he doesn't post much, which is a double-edged sword for him, since he makes me suspect him more, and doesn't help the village as much. But I think Barkeep is getting a pass based on his history in previous games. That said, I'm willing to change my vote if he answers my question satisfactorily -- that's always been my MO.

MikeVic · 08-07-2007, 06:03 PM

Double Dola,

And so right now I think that one of KWhit or path12 are wolves (maybe both?), but as you can see I have nothing solid.

ntndeacon · 08-07-2007, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

We'll get some information on who "steps up" based on the results post from Chief Rum. That should help us start getting a sense of who ranks where in terms of importance. The Scout should be able to augment that if/when he reveals info. I think his value comes in helping us catch a wolf in a lie - viewing someone as high talent who doesn't get their result to come into play when they say they step up, for example. But we should be able to start working on a rough list without his info as we get deeper in the game.

I'm clearly in favor of a structured approach to the "step it up" performances, but I don't want to cram it down people's throats. So, here are some questions I have on how to examine what I've put out there:
- is five the right number of people to have submit a "step it up" performance per night? Too many or too few?
- is there a better way of selecting who goes each night than the number listed in the "Player List"?

sorry if we have the answers to these already, but I think 5 is a good number. we can not have less than 4 I think with 2 wolves and a possible conversion (bribe) to make a collaborator, that 4 would be the minimum but 5 gives us a little safety room. I like it.

only other way to do it than by player list is alphabetically by screen name. I think the player list we have is sufficient though.

ntndeacon · 08-07-2007, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I agree that we want a random distribution for step ups today, and likely tomorrow. I still think 5 is too many to give us good info though.

However 3 is too few. I would be ok with 4 but not less than that.

Lathum · 08-07-2007, 06:30 PM

so we are close to the deadline.

who are the 4 people submiting?

ntndeacon · 08-07-2007, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I have very little interest in posting the vote that buries Barkeep today. I think he is playing a little frustrated at the moment, but I don't think he comes after me with the gusto he did yesterday as a wolf. It just doesn't seem like a value play for their faction to me.

NTN - I have him with a bunch of other people in the middle of my super-solid Day 1 trust list. A spot that he usually occupies in just about every game we play together based on lack of strong impressions. As of right now I'll vote for him instead of BK. And I'll need to put that vote out in about 15-20 minutes as I don't know if I'll be around for the deadline.

In my defense, I did mention the need for a schedule for stepping it up early on. (If Iremember right even before you did hoops.) Granted it was just the kernel of that idea, but it was an important thing to look at as we have all seen I believe.

MikeVic · 08-07-2007, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

so we are close to the deadline.

who are the 4 people submiting?

I listed who I thought is supposed to submit a little further up this page:

DaddyTorgo, Celeval, Path, PurdueBrad. Those were taken from the last post I saw with names listed on the previous page.

ntndeacon · 08-07-2007, 06:43 PM

Well it looks as if Iam pretty much a goner. I can say how much I liked this chance to be in the bigs. I learned a lot from my mentor, Mr. Taylor.

I do think that path is suspicious. he sems like he is playing an out in front wolf. And he seems to play that role so well.
So that is where I am going.

Vote Path

DaddyTorgo · 08-07-2007, 06:44 PM

just got in. Will submit now

DaddyTorgo · 08-07-2007, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVic

Is it usually a smart move to mention who you think could be a wolf, and why? Even if it's a wild stab out there?

yes. I find it can help stimulate other people's thoughts. And if you die, best not to take anything to the grave with you

Barkeep49 · 08-07-2007, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I know we've got a lot going on now, but I want to get back to this point, which I didn't get to reply to this morning. First off, sorry I accused you of whining! Secondly, while I didn't follow a lot of what you said earlier yesterday, the thing that really makes me scratch my head is where you talk about hoops gunning for you, when all he had done was talk about the rules, and you had already put a vote on him, leading a mini-bandwagon (maybe lathum's vote would have come out for hoops either way, but the point remains that hoops is in the lead now). Can you explain what you meant by that?

Of course. People naturally go after those who have gone after them. To me hoops was very subtly building a case against me at that time. I referenced this, when asked before, with post numbers of where he was giving innuendo against me without actually giving a vote. I'll further point out that this has played out largely in the way that I stated, where others would pick up his banner and vote against me, without him having to do so. Nothing in this game, right now, is different for me than how hoops would play this as a wolf, such as sidetracking us to this discussion of stepping it up, rather than concentrating on finding the wolves. This is not to say he is a wolf, since part of what makes him a good wolf is how villagerish he is, but again nothing says to me "aha, he must be human".

DaddyTorgo · 08-07-2007, 06:50 PM

nice vote-change there to swing it onto ntn cronin. Managed to sneak it in without much fanfare hmm? interesting...and on D2 you can claim "well it was a D1 vote"

guys...cronin is smelling more and more rotten by the minute to me. And lathum earns a raised-eyebrow for not noticing how hard i've been trying to get people to vote for cronin/trying to throw suspiscion onto me.

DaddyTorgo · 08-07-2007, 06:53 PM

and my vote isn't moving fyi. i've played with cronin enough times as a wolf...something is tickling me about him already this game. now like I said, maybe i'm wrong. But given his extremely defensive reaction to what was a single D1 vote...I don't know. He's too smart a player to make that kind of "mistake" play, but maybe I tweaked something in him and made him defensive when he didn't mean to be? One of those posts where you post it and then go "oh shoot" right after you hit submit...

st.cronin · 08-07-2007, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

nice vote-change there to swing it onto ntn cronin. Managed to sneak it in without much fanfare hmm? interesting...and on D2 you can claim "well it was a D1 vote"

guys...cronin is smelling more and more rotten by the minute to me. And lathum earns a raised-eyebrow for not noticing how hard i've been trying to get people to vote for cronin/trying to throw suspiscion onto me.

Ladies and gentlemen, playing the role of Alan T this game ... DaddyTorgo!

DaddyTorgo · 08-07-2007, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Ladies and gentlemen, playing the role of Alan T this game ... DaddyTorgo!

LOL

DaddyTorgo · 08-07-2007, 07:08 PM

quiet deadline

st.cronin · 08-07-2007, 07:09 PM

No vote from Celeval, right? Or PurdueBrad?

st.cronin · 08-07-2007, 07:11 PM

I submitted a "step it up" order, ftr.

PurdueBrad · 08-07-2007, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

No vote from Celeval, right? Or PurdueBrad?

I submitted and submitted my baseball powers. Thanks for switching your vote btw, wasn't quite sure what I did to deserve it.

hoopsguy · 08-07-2007, 07:28 PM

Missed votes also translate into lost "step it ups", which is not ideal.

NTN, assuming that you weren't blowing smoke near the end I'm sorry to hear that we lost a faithful Indian today.

So, I'm curious to see if there are going to be surprises with the "step it up" stuff today - did people follow the plan or chase after glory on their own?

Chief Rum · 08-07-2007, 07:29 PM

Figures. Probably the one day I will need to rush because of my other job, I hit massive traffic because some boob couldn't hook his boat up to his trailer right.

Sorry for the wait, everyone. Tabulating votes right now.

Celeval · 08-07-2007, 07:31 PM

Crap - sorry, had some home stuff happen and couldn't get online an hour ago like I planned.

08-07-2007, 05:07 PM	#303
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I'm going to move my vote, which is out of character for me (normally I never move my vote on day 1 except as self preservation). But I feel pretty strongly that we'll benefit from having Barkeep and hoopsguy both around. So: unvote Will Purdue Vote ntndeacon __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

08-07-2007, 05:35 PM	#311
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Well, I'd say hoops is off the hook. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

08-07-2007, 05:38 PM	#314
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	If and when ntn shows up, he'll almost certainly vote for BK, which means that BK is essentially in the lead. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

08-07-2007, 05:45 PM	#319
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Jack Parkman is out until much later tonight. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

08-07-2007, 07:09 PM	#345
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	No vote from Celeval, right? Or PurdueBrad? __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

08-07-2007, 04:58 PM	#301
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Votes as of Post #300: Barkeep - JE (152), Pass (283), Purdue (291) Hoops - Barkeep (74), Lathum (75) NTN - KWhit (212), Path (278) Purdue - Cronin (160) Cronin - Torgo (162) Not voted - Celeval, MikeVic, Hoops, NTN, Gonzo

08-07-2007, 05:00 PM	#302
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	I want to keep hoopsguy on, since he seems to be doing a lot of the work and helping so far. I'll go with the majority right now and VOTE BARKEEP so that hoops has a greater chance to survive today.

08-07-2007, 05:19 PM	#304
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	If we have a tie between NTN and Barkeep then I believe that Barkeep got the earlier vote - don't think there were any unvotes prior to the first listed votes. Barkeep - JE (152), Pass (283), Purdue (291), MikeVic (302) NTN - KWhit (212), Path (278), Cronin (162) Hoops - Barkeep (74), Lathum (75) Cronin - Torgo (162) Not voted - Celeval, Hoops, NTN, Gonzo

08-07-2007, 05:23 PM	#305
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I have very little interest in posting the vote that buries Barkeep today. I think he is playing a little frustrated at the moment, but I don't think he comes after me with the gusto he did yesterday as a wolf. It just doesn't seem like a value play for their faction to me. NTN - I have him with a bunch of other people in the middle of my super-solid Day 1 trust list. A spot that he usually occupies in just about every game we play together based on lack of strong impressions. As of right now I'll vote for him instead of BK. And I'll need to put that vote out in about 15-20 minutes as I don't know if I'll be around for the deadline.

08-07-2007, 05:27 PM	#306
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	You make a good point hoops, and I was voting for Barkeep to make sure you don't go. I don't think either you, Barkeep, or NTN are wolves at this point. I have early suspicions about a couple others, but nothing concrete yet. I might do an unvote and vote for someone else before the current hour is up.

08-07-2007, 05:32 PM	#308
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Mike, what have you seen in NTN's play so far that makes you think he is not a wolf, other than just the statistical likelihood that more players are villagers than wolves? I've obviously put more thought into Barkeep's position/play than just about anyone else in the game, given his early vote on me. If there is something specific about NTN's play that says villager then I'll look hard at voting for another candidate.

08-07-2007, 05:33 PM	#309
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I'm fine with NTN being voted off since he's so dangerous UTR. I'm going to be around at lynch but will move my vote that direction now, though obviously it is in my self defense as well. Unvote hoopsguy Vote NTN

08-07-2007, 05:34 PM	#310
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	UNVOTE HOOPSGUY VOTE NTNDEACON lets keep it close. Obviously NTN will vote for barkeep and vice versa

08-07-2007, 05:36 PM	#312
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	hmmm, interesting. looks like me and Barkeep are now tied together

08-07-2007, 05:37 PM	#313
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Dueling bandwagons emerging! First Barkeep, now NTN. Votes as of Post #310: NTN - KWhit (212), Path (278), Cronin (303), Barkeep (309), Lathum (310) Barkeep - JE (152), Pass (283), Purdue (291), MikeVic (302) Cronin - Torgo (162) Not voted - Celeval, Hoops, NTN, Gonzo

08-07-2007, 05:39 PM	#315
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	OK, I'm now in a position where I can post freely in terms of today's vote. With a 5-4 race right now and heading out the door, I'm pretty much compelled to vote for one of these guys or it is a throwaway. Guys that have personally made me a little nervous: KWhit, Pass, MikeVic. However, I'm not going to be around to lead a largely aimless Day 1 charge at any of these guys so I'll vote on one of the leaders. I'm not expecting deadline voting challenges going forward ... VOTE NTNDEACON

08-07-2007, 05:42 PM	#317
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Is it usually a smart move to mention who you think could be a wolf, and why? Even if it's a wild stab out there?

08-07-2007, 05:44 PM	#318
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Also, I hope that DaddyTorgo, Celeval, Path, PurdueBrad all put in their step-it-ups!

08-07-2007, 05:46 PM	#323
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	dola- I think DT needs to be looked at closer considering his throw away vote.

08-07-2007, 06:01 PM	#327
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Ok, well, the first name that comes to mind is KWhit. He first voted for NTN, who I believe isn't a wolf, with the convenience added that he just didn't want to choose sides in the Barkeep vs hoops battle. But that's the only cause for suspicion I have right now. The second name that comes to mind is path12. It could just be his character's personality, but he volunteered at least twice to step-it-up. But then he said we should put another high-class player to test out the talent/movie role theory. But someone also mentioned that a wolf could use "I only have a couple step-it-ups left" as a reason why they're hanging around. He voted for hoops without an explanation, until I asked about it. But his reason sounded solid enough. The vote also happened to be NTN, but I would think the wolves would disguise their actions better than back-to-back votes. So that's what I'm thinking right now. I don't think hoops or NTN are wolves, so that leaves me voting for Barkeep right now to keep the other two aboard.

08-07-2007, 06:02 PM	#328
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Dola, The "but then he said we should put another high-class player to test out the talent/movie role theory" is an argument that he isn't a wolf. It sounds like I made it an argument that supports him being a wolf.

08-07-2007, 06:03 PM	#330
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Double Dola, And so right now I think that one of KWhit or path12 are wolves (maybe both?), but as you can see I have nothing solid.

08-07-2007, 06:30 PM	#333
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	so we are close to the deadline. who are the 4 people submiting?

08-07-2007, 06:43 PM	#336
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Well it looks as if Iam pretty much a goner. I can say how much I liked this chance to be in the bigs. I learned a lot from my mentor, Mr. Taylor. I do think that path is suspicious. he sems like he is playing an out in front wolf. And he seems to play that role so well. So that is where I am going. Vote Path

08-07-2007, 06:44 PM	#337
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	just got in. Will submit now

08-07-2007, 06:50 PM	#340
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	nice vote-change there to swing it onto ntn cronin. Managed to sneak it in without much fanfare hmm? interesting...and on D2 you can claim "well it was a D1 vote" guys...cronin is smelling more and more rotten by the minute to me. And lathum earns a raised-eyebrow for not noticing how hard i've been trying to get people to vote for cronin/trying to throw suspiscion onto me.

08-07-2007, 06:53 PM	#341
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	and my vote isn't moving fyi. i've played with cronin enough times as a wolf...something is tickling me about him already this game. now like I said, maybe i'm wrong. But given his extremely defensive reaction to what was a single D1 vote...I don't know. He's too smart a player to make that kind of "mistake" play, but maybe I tweaked something in him and made him defensive when he didn't mean to be? One of those posts where you post it and then go "oh shoot" right after you hit submit...

08-07-2007, 07:08 PM	#344
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	quiet deadline

08-07-2007, 07:11 PM	#346
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I submitted a "step it up" order, ftr. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

08-07-2007, 07:28 PM	#348
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Missed votes also translate into lost "step it ups", which is not ideal. NTN, assuming that you weren't blowing smoke near the end I'm sorry to hear that we lost a faithful Indian today. So, I'm curious to see if there are going to be surprises with the "step it up" stuff today - did people follow the plan or chase after glory on their own?

08-07-2007, 07:29 PM	#349
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Figures. Probably the one day I will need to rush because of my other job, I hit massive traffic because some boob couldn't hook his boat up to his trailer right. Sorry for the wait, everyone. Tabulating votes right now.

08-07-2007, 07:31 PM	#350
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	Crap - sorry, had some home stuff happen and couldn't get online an hour ago like I planned.

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