The Hattrick Epidemic - Page 7

Vince · 03-02-2003, 01:54 PM

bbor - You get to look forward to my team sucking as much as your team, if that helps

McSweeny · 03-02-2003, 01:56 PM

just picked up this guy to help my defense out. Cost me 100,000

Fred Nowak
104 000 US$, 27 years, inadequate form
Has poor experience and weak leadership abilities [Head]

Stamina: excellent Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: weak Passing: passable
Winger: poor Defending: passable
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: passable

QuikSand · 03-02-2003, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by McSweeny
i just started my team so i'm pretty much looking to rebuild. My current keeper is rated inadequate and i'm looking to get a new one. Should i pay 150,000 for a passable one with solid form?

after this i'm looking to beef up my defense. What should i look for in my back four?

You shouldn't have to pay that much for a passable keeper - probably only about $110,000 for a decent guy. Keep looking.

For your defenders, you probably want to move one of them up to play inner midfield, and essentially get into a 3-5-2 setup. With limited resources, it makes sense to go for either guys with "solid" defending and little else (costing $100k or more), or else guys with "passable" defense and perhaps some complementary decent skills like winger, playmaking or passing. You can pick up guys with two or three ratings of inad or passable fairly affordably/

bbor · 03-02-2003, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vince
bbor - You get to look forward to my team sucking as much as your team, if that helps

Welcome to suckville Vince

bbor · 03-02-2003, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bbor
Welcome to suckville Vince

DOLA!

Hrmm...i should really read what i think in my mind before i type it.....

there are too many lines that could be said after this.

McSweeny · 03-02-2003, 02:56 PM

so you think i should play a 3-5-2 instead of a 4-4-2? my team isn't experienced in 3-5-2, does that matter?

bbor · 03-02-2003, 03:02 PM

4-5-1...and nothing but 4-5-1

The more you play with the line up the better it will get...your team may be disorganized for the first few games

sterlingice · 03-02-2003, 03:53 PM

Quote:

from Vince:
1) How important is it to watch your money? I'm definitely going to kick up my youth squad spending, but should I worry about getting into debt early? If I kick up my youth squad, it looks like I'll be losing about 15k a week...I have 300k right now. Thoughts?

2) I have a passable coach already (woo-hoo), and he is defensive minded. Not to start a war between ardent and HFP, but how much should the fact that he is defensive minded influence my decision to have an offensive or defensive strategy? Should I even care? Also, should I worry too much about his weak leadership rating?

3) My best keeper is rated weak (and everyone else is wretched or disastrous), so I'm definitely in the market for a keeper. Since my team is 5th, and probably only going down in the very near future, should I just go for an inadequate keeper?

4) Finally, how quickly should I expect development to occur? I've got three or four guys who seem pretty good (estimated value in six figures), but two of them are 25 and 26. Are they going to get any better, or should I try to get money for them now?

I see two different paths for the money situation- if you have a pretty good team right now, then go straight for the stadium expansion as soon as next season starts. If you have a weaker team, you'll need to spend that cash on players. It all depends on the hand you were dealt to start. If you need players, the stadium expansion will have to wait until you make your sponsors more happy and get more cash.

I think the key with your coach is "should i even care". You have a passable coach without spending any money. You probably shouldn't care.

The third question relates to number 1. If you have a good team, go put down that $80 to $100K on a passable goalie. It takes time to find one around $80K but can be done and saves you money for other players. Since you aren't going anywhere this year, you don't want to overpay something like $110K-$120K for someone you can get for cheaper and spend on a young trainable player. BTW, if 4th is attainable, you can get a little bit of prize cash at the end of the year.

Lastly, depends on how badly you need them and if you think you can blow out your team and start over without overpaying for stuff. I suspect the answer is no. You learn from mistakes or very careful observation and you don't have the wealth

of experience from the first that some of us do: I almost paid $55K for an inad keeper my first day until the guy, whose keeper I was bidding on, messaged this guy I was in a bidding war with and myself and told us to stop. Thankfully the other guy "won".

The number of weeks for guys to grow from one level to the next can generally be done by this formula (goalies take a week or two less, defenders take a week or two more) =
(Age - 10) + (Coach's skill below solid, so passable for you = 1). Your 26yo will take a while, as you can see. Also, this is with a full compliment of coaches (ie 6-8 assistants). Adjust your team accordingly.

SI

HornedFrog Purple · 03-02-2003, 08:31 PM

I am the undisputed king of futility.

Once again I will finish 2nd and once again I fell short in trying to win the division 2-1 this week. 2007 can't come fast enough.

DataKing · 03-02-2003, 08:48 PM

If you all want to see the sort of nail-biting finishes that the Hattrick engine can produce, check out my league match from today. I damn near had a heart attack watching this one.

Is it wrong to verbally cheer your players on, or curse at them, even though they're actually nothing more than bits and bytes?

Now if you'll all excuse me, I think I am going to faint...

PilotMan · 03-02-2003, 08:51 PM

I still have a chance to won the division, but its going to come down to the last match of the year and I will have to win. My opponent hasn't allowed a goal in a while (neither have I), but his O is so good. He has 65 goals so far this year.

In fact If I were to win out I would be up for automatic promotion, since my points are high enough.

SO dissapointing, although winning streak is up to 11 matches.

My team is getting old and I am in debt, don't know how long I'll be able to hold on.

Eilim · 03-02-2003, 08:51 PM

I was watching your game along with mine, DK.

Is it wrong to verbally cheer players on, or curse at them, when it isn't even your team?

After those first two goals I was in shock and actually stopped paying attention to my game to focus on yours and try to will your team to win.

McSweeny · 03-02-2003, 08:55 PM

well i got whipped in my first ever league game 5-0. They had possesion 97% of the time. Boooo! looks like i need some mid-field help. My central defense was strong during the game so that's a plus i guess. My strikers played fairly good too. Just couldn't hold onto the ball at all.

2 games left, if i win them both i have a chance of finishing in a tie for last place.

I get my ass kicked and i'm royally addicted!

The_herd · 03-02-2003, 09:37 PM

Have to brag about my defense after this match, a 3-0 win over Toe Jam. And just to keep my head out of the clouds I'll show you how bad my attack usually is too.

Midfield: poor
Right Side Defence: EXCELLENT
Central Defence: OUTSTANDING
Left Side Defence: FORMIDABLE
Right Side Attack: weak
Central Attack: poor
Left Side Attack: weak

And in 9 league matches now, I haven't allowed a goal. If you include friendlies, quiksand has scored the most goals against me with 2. Unfortunately, I haven't scored more than 4 goals in a match yet, and I have 3, ugly 1-0 wins, and a hideous 0-0 tie.

bbor · 03-02-2003, 09:38 PM

Holy Shit!.....97% possesion...that's crazy

mrushh · 03-02-2003, 10:05 PM

Yea for Cowtown!!!!

After taking over a last place team with 1 point, we won tonight, 4-2, to secure a top 4 finish in series.

Actually we are tied for 3rd with 23 points, but the other team is better if you look at the 'star' count.

Question: How much good does Match of Year do (We play that 3rd place tie team last week of the season)?

The_herd · 03-02-2003, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrushh
Yea for Cowtown!!!! After taking over a last place team with 1 point, we won tonight, 4-2, to secure a top 4 finish in series.

Actually we are tied for 3rd with 23 points, but the other team is better if you look at the 'star' count.

Question: How much good does Match of Year do (We play that 3rd place tie team last week of the season)?

Congrats.

I was playing with the effects of MoY and PiC on the match simulator and they had about a .5 goals per game difference + or - from playing a match normal.

PilotMan · 03-04-2003, 07:13 PM

I just need to add that while looking for teams to challenge for my friendly this week, I have one thing to say.

Ardent is a guestbook whore.

Please make sure to check your guestbook for viruses, and get it tested soon. This may save you valuable time and money later.

DataKing · 03-04-2003, 07:20 PM

Has anyone else been having tons of trouble with the Hattrick Conferences?

It seems like nearly every time I try to go there, for weeks now, there are problems.

Or is it just me?

3ric · 03-05-2003, 01:43 AM

No, I couldn't get into the conferences either when I was trying to schedule a friendly with someone last night.

damnMikeBrown · 03-05-2003, 02:04 AM

The conferences are just hellish. Have been for a while now

Oh, Hattrick pet peeve. Your coach going defensive. Nothing like snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. My git (note, english term there) has used the ploy 5 times. He felt we were so far ahead, and safe, that we should pull everybody back, and 'D' up.

In these occasions we've managed to win a mere 2 of the 5 games. 2 losses, and 1 tie. The moron did it again in my league game this week, causing the tie. We're condemed to relegation now, though with a win, we would have had a great chance at a qualification match. I think I know who Mike Brown is looking for after Marvin Lewis runs out of town screaming bloody murder...

Wait, that's no good. Bengals would have to get a lead first.

dacman · 03-05-2003, 08:14 AM

Marc Lavoie (7719970)
45 years, passable form, healthy
A passable coach who prefers a strong defensive game

And you wonder why your coach goes defensive, dMB?

Have you might tried setting your wingers and best offensive wing back/defender to offensive? I'm curious as to whether that might help the situation.

I can't recall my coach (passable, goes all out) going defensive ever, but he hasn't had more then a 2-0 lead at this point (new guy).

NevStar · 03-05-2003, 10:06 AM

My coach goes all out and he pulls back, too. Fortunately, I haven't lost a game he's pulled back, yet, although there's been a close one or two.

Easy Mac · 03-05-2003, 10:37 AM

My coach goes all out every game. Ahh I love those 7 goal games

HornedFrog Purple · 03-06-2003, 01:40 PM

Shameless plug. I have begun the rebuilding:

Don Yancey (4079786)
21 years, passable form, healthy

A sympathetic guy who is temperamental and upright.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 161 000 US$
Wage: 1 400 US$/week
Owner: Cedar Pond Horned Toads
Warnings: 0

Stamina: poor Goaltending: passable
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: wretched Defending: wretched
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: wretched

Listed at $90616, Deadline: 3/9/2003 at 20:37

If any of you guys buy him, he is class!

daedalus · 03-06-2003, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HornedFrog Purple
I have begun the rebuilding

The 21YO doesn't cut it for rebuilding?

bbor · 03-06-2003, 10:41 PM

He like em young

HornedFrog Purple · 03-07-2003, 11:43 AM

YoungER.

But really it is because I pulled that 18 year old passable last week and I have the 20 year old passable anyways. One of these decades I will buy a solid forward, since mine generally play hopscotch and pass out in the 2nd half waiting to get the ball.

daedalus · 03-07-2003, 02:40 PM

Hopscotch? He DOES like 'em young!

illinifan999 · 03-09-2003, 08:19 AM

Expansions next season

During the winter the HT-Team have been focusing on fixing problems and performance issues. We've been digging into the database, into the code and tuning the system in small adjustments. Each change have not been having a huge impact but the sum of 2 months of such work means that we are not only fully able to deal with the current load, but also capable of accomodating more users.

So, we feel happy to announce the expansion of a bunch of leagues. Which ones? More about that in a moment.

-"Hey, wait a minute - the site is still slow on Sundays and let's not talk about the conference, it gives me time-outs all the time!".

Yes, you are right. However, these are two separate things and won't really be affected by an expansion. The problem with the slow site has been vastly reduced the last 2 weeks since we made a couple of code improvents. It can still be a bit slow when Sweden plays matches on Sundays and Wednesdays. Around early next season we will have more web server capacity installed. That should eliminate even that problem.

However, we will NOT be expanding Sweden this season. Even though we will soon be having the capacity to deal wih an expansion of Sweden, we do not expand until we really have that capacity installed. It is a lesson we've learnt.

The second problem, the apalling state of the conference is not really a performance problem. Considering the type of problems with the conference database we have, just adding more hardware or limiting the number of users does not help. What we need to do is to make some fundamental design changes to the conference system. We've spent quite some time analyzing and tracking down what the problem is and what needs to be done. We will now begin to make those changes. It will take time - months. But since this is not really a performance issue, it would not make sense to let the expansion of the leagues wait on that work to be completed.

Another factor in determining whether a particlar league can be expanded is GM resources. The number of Game-masters have been growing to now almost 50 GMs! All the major leagues have their own GM and some have more than one. Having enough GMs is crucial before expanding a league and the expansion plans below have been discussed and cleared with the GMs.

So, after some explanation of our reasoning as to what CAN be expanded, a few words about what NEEDS to be expanded:

Some leagues are obvious: Romania and Argentina were close to getting an expansion already last season. They now get it.

België also has a huge waiting list and will of course be expanded.

Then there is the rising star in the Hattrick sky: Nederland. The league has been growing at stunning speed for many months now and we see no sign of it slowing down. Normally we'd be reluctant to expand a league at this level two seasons in a row, but it is clear that Nederland really needs it. So, there will be an expansion of Nederland from 11,000 to 19,000 teams.

Denmark, Norge, USA and Schweiz are also getting an expansion from 2700 to 11,000 teams.

These are the major expansions (each involving 8192 new teams). Apart from those, a bunch of leagues will be expanding from a lower level:

From 680 to 2727 teams
Hrvatska
France
Mexico
Magyarország

From 168 to 680 teams
Slovenija
Chile
Israel
Bulgaria
Rossiya
Türkiye
Wales

The expansion of all these leagues will have to mean some adjustments to match and update times. Details in a separate document about new match times.

This is taken from the hattrick website. Does that mean that there will be a D6?

damnMikeBrown · 03-09-2003, 10:44 AM

Yes Virginia, there is going to be a VI now

DataKing · 03-09-2003, 01:11 PM

illinifan999: You are correct. This means that the U.S. will have a sixth division.

bbor · 03-09-2003, 01:27 PM

Wooohoo...something for Hornedfrog to shoot for

Easy Mac · 03-09-2003, 05:30 PM

Am I the only person here who buys no one over the age of 21?

And when training, should I train skills 6 weeks (or the recommended for that skill) in a row, or alternate skills weekly?

sterlingice · 03-09-2003, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Am I the only person here who buys no one over the age of 21?

I'll occasionally snag a 22 or 23yo but, in general, yeah, I only buy 21yo and less.

SI

vex · 03-09-2003, 07:07 PM

I try to only get 19 and under. 20 if I must.

Eilim · 03-09-2003, 07:10 PM

I used to be that way, but I modified it a bit. I won't get anyone over 20 in a position I'm training, or position affected by training. But, if theres a position that won't be affected.. I don't worry so much about the age as long as their not a year or two away from decline. The training time plays no part on them and you can get some great deals on mutli-passable skillset players in the 24-27 range.

Someone had mentioned it on the board, and it just made too much sense for me not to try.

Vince · 03-09-2003, 07:12 PM

Damn it...my inadequate keeper just took a knee injury, and my weak replacement immediately allows two goals. To go from a reachable 1-0 defecit to 3-0 in less than three minutes sucks ass.

vex · 03-09-2003, 07:15 PM

Up 4-1 right now!

McSweeny · 03-09-2003, 07:16 PM

down 2-0 on the road

Easy Mac · 03-09-2003, 07:41 PM

I was down 3-0 after 36 minutes, but I have 4-4 now in the 86th minute. I was actually able to grab the lead for a minute, and I have a 2nd straight game with a player with a hattrick.

edit: I kissed my sister at 4-4. Oh well, during the game I signed 2 young swedes for $5,000 total, and one I'm training at D, so all's well.

And my stadium sold out this game, does anyone know how much larger the stadium should be in relation to your supporters. I have like 550 supporters and sold out my 7000 seat stadium?

illinifan999 · 03-09-2003, 07:48 PM

Hallejuha!! I handed a team a huge 9-0 can of whoop-ass. 9 to freakin zip. Poor guy never had a chance. That is a confidence booster.

illinifan999 · 03-09-2003, 07:52 PM

Oh and I pulled my highest revenue next to the sale of Tom Sanders. I make at least 100,000 this week. That will leave me with 76,000 in the bank.

McSweeny · 03-09-2003, 07:54 PM

i made over 100,000 this week and i'm still 92,000 in debt

illinifan999 · 03-09-2003, 08:00 PM

So nice to be out of debt.

Too bad, I need a miracle to finish third in my division. But this is a promising sign of things to come.

Coffee Warlord · 03-09-2003, 08:00 PM

HELL YES.

MOTS'd twice in a row. TS went down to murderous, so I fire my coach. Take a look what I get in 2 tries.

Ian Hogan (8754342)
50 years, disastrous form, healthy
A solid coach who prefers a strong defensive game
A pleasant guy who is balanced and honest.
Has brilliant experience and solid leadership abilities.

Muah.

FrogMan · 03-09-2003, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Easy Mac
And my stadium sold out this game, does anyone know how much larger the stadium should be in relation to your supporters. I have like 550 supporters and sold out my 7000 seat stadium?

Go to this site:
http://www.databased.at/hattrick/index.asp
Then go to tools then arenasizer

numbers they use are 30 times your supporters if you're winning a lot, 20 times if you're average and 15 times if you're a loser

Ratios of the different types of seating are respectively 63%, 25%, 10% and 2% for terraces, basic, inder roof, and VIP.

Later, FrogMan.

illinifan999 · 03-09-2003, 08:08 PM

My team rules with a poor coach who goes all out.

Mwahahaha!!!!

TredWel · 03-09-2003, 08:13 PM

Well, my loss puts me out of contention for promotion. Even if I won, Qwikshot's team nailed my coffin shut with their win.

On the plus side, my youth squad just hit solid, and this week's selection is the best I've ever had (and I think is Al Pacino in disguise):

Guo Huu-Hanh
19 years, passable form, healthy

A pleasant guy who is fiery and infamous.
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 68 000 US$
Wage: 860 US$/week
Owner: Scranton Slime
Warnings: 0

Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: inadequate
Winger: passable Defending: poor
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: wretched

Our team suddenly has a new starting winger.

illinifan999 · 03-09-2003, 08:21 PM

I miss Tom Sanders

That $600,000 did come in useful though.

03-02-2003, 01:54 PM	#301
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	bbor - You get to look forward to my team sucking as much as your team, if that helps __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

03-02-2003, 03:02 PM	#307
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	4-5-1...and nothing but 4-5-1 The more you play with the line up the better it will get...your team may be disorganized for the first few games __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

03-02-2003, 08:31 PM	#309
HornedFrog Purple Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Worthless, Tx	I am the undisputed king of futility. Once again I will finish 2nd and once again I fell short in trying to win the division 2-1 this week. 2007 can't come fast enough. __________________ King of All FOFC Media!!! IHOF: Fort Worthless Fury- 2004 AOC Deep South Champions (not acknowledged via conspiracy)

03-02-2003, 08:48 PM	#310
DataKing Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Chicago	If you all want to see the sort of nail-biting finishes that the Hattrick engine can produce, check out my league match from today. I damn near had a heart attack watching this one. Is it wrong to verbally cheer your players on, or curse at them, even though they're actually nothing more than bits and bytes? Now if you'll all excuse me, I think I am going to faint... __________________ Current Games Diablo III (BattleTag: DataKing#1685) Allegiances: Chicago Bears - Detroit Red Wings - Kansas Jayhawks Awards: 2011 Golden Scribe - Other Sports Category (The Straight(away) and Narrow - A Forza Motorsport 3 Dynasty)

03-02-2003, 08:51 PM	#311
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	I still have a chance to won the division, but its going to come down to the last match of the year and I will have to win. My opponent hasn't allowed a goal in a while (neither have I), but his O is so good. He has 65 goals so far this year. In fact If I were to win out I would be up for automatic promotion, since my points are high enough. SO dissapointing, although winning streak is up to 11 matches. My team is getting old and I am in debt, don't know how long I'll be able to hold on. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

03-02-2003, 01:56 PM	#302
McSweeny College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerville, MA	just picked up this guy to help my defense out. Cost me 100,000 Fred Nowak 104 000 US$, 27 years, inadequate form Has poor experience and weak leadership abilities [Head] Stamina: excellent Keeper: wretched Playmaking: weak Passing: passable Winger: poor Defending: passable Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: passable

03-02-2003, 02:56 PM	#306
McSweeny College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerville, MA	so you think i should play a 3-5-2 instead of a 4-4-2? my team isn't experienced in 3-5-2, does that matter?

03-02-2003, 08:51 PM	#312
Eilim High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Foxboro,MA	I was watching your game along with mine, DK. Is it wrong to verbally cheer players on, or curse at them, when it isn't even your team? After those first two goals I was in shock and actually stopped paying attention to my game to focus on yours and try to will your team to win.

03-02-2003, 08:55 PM	#313
McSweeny College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerville, MA	well i got whipped in my first ever league game 5-0. They had possesion 97% of the time. Boooo! looks like i need some mid-field help. My central defense was strong during the game so that's a plus i guess. My strikers played fairly good too. Just couldn't hold onto the ball at all. 2 games left, if i win them both i have a chance of finishing in a tie for last place. I get my ass kicked and i'm royally addicted!

03-02-2003, 09:37 PM	#314
The_herd College Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Fort Lackland, Texas (San Antonio)	Have to brag about my defense after this match, a 3-0 win over Toe Jam. And just to keep my head out of the clouds I'll show you how bad my attack usually is too. Midfield: poor Right Side Defence: EXCELLENT Central Defence: OUTSTANDING Left Side Defence: FORMIDABLE Right Side Attack: weak Central Attack: poor Left Side Attack: weak And in 9 league matches now, I haven't allowed a goal. If you include friendlies, quiksand has scored the most goals against me with 2. Unfortunately, I haven't scored more than 4 goals in a match yet, and I have 3, ugly 1-0 wins, and a hideous 0-0 tie. __________________ Oakland Raiders: HFL's 1970 AC West Champs

03-02-2003, 09:38 PM	#315
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Holy Shit!.....97% possesion...that's crazy __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

03-02-2003, 10:05 PM	#316
mrushh High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Dallas,Tx	Yea for Cowtown!!!! After taking over a last place team with 1 point, we won tonight, 4-2, to secure a top 4 finish in series. Actually we are tied for 3rd with 23 points, but the other team is better if you look at the 'star' count. Question: How much good does Match of Year do (We play that 3rd place tie team last week of the season)? __________________ Visit "Cowtown, Arise. A TCU- TCY Dynasty" in the Dynasty section.

03-04-2003, 07:13 PM	#318
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	I just need to add that while looking for teams to challenge for my friendly this week, I have one thing to say. Ardent is a guestbook whore. Please make sure to check your guestbook for viruses, and get it tested soon. This may save you valuable time and money later. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

03-04-2003, 07:20 PM	#319
DataKing Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Chicago	Has anyone else been having tons of trouble with the Hattrick Conferences? It seems like nearly every time I try to go there, for weeks now, there are problems. Or is it just me? __________________ Current Games Diablo III (BattleTag: DataKing#1685) Allegiances: Chicago Bears - Detroit Red Wings - Kansas Jayhawks Awards: 2011 Golden Scribe - Other Sports Category (The Straight(away) and Narrow - A Forza Motorsport 3 Dynasty)

03-05-2003, 01:43 AM	#320
3ric College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sweden	No, I couldn't get into the conferences either when I was trying to schedule a friendly with someone last night. __________________ San Diego Chargers (HFL) - Lappland Reindeers (WOOF) - Gothenburg Giants (IHOF) Indiana: A TCY VC - year 2044 - the longest running dynasty ever on FOFC!

03-05-2003, 02:04 AM	#321
damnMikeBrown College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cincinnati, OH	The conferences are just hellish. Have been for a while now Oh, Hattrick pet peeve. Your coach going defensive. Nothing like snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. My git (note, english term there) has used the ploy 5 times. He felt we were so far ahead, and safe, that we should pull everybody back, and 'D' up. In these occasions we've managed to win a mere 2 of the 5 games. 2 losses, and 1 tie. The moron did it again in my league game this week, causing the tie. We're condemed to relegation now, though with a win, we would have had a great chance at a qualification match. I think I know who Mike Brown is looking for after Marvin Lewis runs out of town screaming bloody murder... Wait, that's no good. Bengals would have to get a lead first.

03-05-2003, 08:14 AM	#322
dacman College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: speak to the trout	Marc Lavoie (7719970) 45 years, passable form, healthy A passable coach who prefers a strong defensive game And you wonder why your coach goes defensive, dMB? Have you might tried setting your wingers and best offensive wing back/defender to offensive? I'm curious as to whether that might help the situation. I can't recall my coach (passable, goes all out) going defensive ever, but he hasn't had more then a 2-0 lead at this point (new guy). __________________ No signatures allowed.

03-05-2003, 10:06 AM	#323
NevStar High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Raleigh, NC	My coach goes all out and he pulls back, too. Fortunately, I haven't lost a game he's pulled back, yet, although there's been a close one or two. __________________ I can't think of a clever signature.

03-05-2003, 10:37 AM	#324
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	My coach goes all out every game. Ahh I love those 7 goal games

03-06-2003, 01:40 PM	#325
HornedFrog Purple Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Worthless, Tx	Shameless plug. I have begun the rebuilding: Don Yancey (4079786) 21 years, passable form, healthy A sympathetic guy who is temperamental and upright. Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities Nationality: USA Assessed value: 161 000 US$ Wage: 1 400 US$/week Owner: Cedar Pond Horned Toads Warnings: 0 Stamina: poor Goaltending: passable Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous Winger: wretched Defending: wretched Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: wretched Listed at $90616, Deadline: 3/9/2003 at 20:37 If any of you guys buy him, he is class! __________________ King of All FOFC Media!!! IHOF: Fort Worthless Fury- 2004 AOC Deep South Champions (not acknowledged via conspiracy)

03-06-2003, 10:41 PM	#327
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	He like em young __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

03-07-2003, 11:43 AM	#328
HornedFrog Purple Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Worthless, Tx	YoungER. But really it is because I pulled that 18 year old passable last week and I have the 20 year old passable anyways. One of these decades I will buy a solid forward, since mine generally play hopscotch and pass out in the 2nd half waiting to get the ball. __________________ King of All FOFC Media!!! IHOF: Fort Worthless Fury- 2004 AOC Deep South Champions (not acknowledged via conspiracy)

03-07-2003, 02:40 PM	#329
daedalus Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000	Hopscotch? He DOES like 'em young!

03-09-2003, 08:19 AM	#330
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	Expansions next season During the winter the HT-Team have been focusing on fixing problems and performance issues. We've been digging into the database, into the code and tuning the system in small adjustments. Each change have not been having a huge impact but the sum of 2 months of such work means that we are not only fully able to deal with the current load, but also capable of accomodating more users. So, we feel happy to announce the expansion of a bunch of leagues. Which ones? More about that in a moment. -"Hey, wait a minute - the site is still slow on Sundays and let's not talk about the conference, it gives me time-outs all the time!". Yes, you are right. However, these are two separate things and won't really be affected by an expansion. The problem with the slow site has been vastly reduced the last 2 weeks since we made a couple of code improvents. It can still be a bit slow when Sweden plays matches on Sundays and Wednesdays. Around early next season we will have more web server capacity installed. That should eliminate even that problem. However, we will NOT be expanding Sweden this season. Even though we will soon be having the capacity to deal wih an expansion of Sweden, we do not expand until we really have that capacity installed. It is a lesson we've learnt. The second problem, the apalling state of the conference is not really a performance problem. Considering the type of problems with the conference database we have, just adding more hardware or limiting the number of users does not help. What we need to do is to make some fundamental design changes to the conference system. We've spent quite some time analyzing and tracking down what the problem is and what needs to be done. We will now begin to make those changes. It will take time - months. But since this is not really a performance issue, it would not make sense to let the expansion of the leagues wait on that work to be completed. Another factor in determining whether a particlar league can be expanded is GM resources. The number of Game-masters have been growing to now almost 50 GMs! All the major leagues have their own GM and some have more than one. Having enough GMs is crucial before expanding a league and the expansion plans below have been discussed and cleared with the GMs. So, after some explanation of our reasoning as to what CAN be expanded, a few words about what NEEDS to be expanded: Some leagues are obvious: Romania and Argentina were close to getting an expansion already last season. They now get it. België also has a huge waiting list and will of course be expanded. Then there is the rising star in the Hattrick sky: Nederland. The league has been growing at stunning speed for many months now and we see no sign of it slowing down. Normally we'd be reluctant to expand a league at this level two seasons in a row, but it is clear that Nederland really needs it. So, there will be an expansion of Nederland from 11,000 to 19,000 teams. Denmark, Norge, USA and Schweiz are also getting an expansion from 2700 to 11,000 teams. These are the major expansions (each involving 8192 new teams). Apart from those, a bunch of leagues will be expanding from a lower level: From 680 to 2727 teams Hrvatska France Mexico Magyarország From 168 to 680 teams Slovenija Chile Israel Bulgaria Rossiya Türkiye Wales The expansion of all these leagues will have to mean some adjustments to match and update times. Details in a separate document about new match times. This is taken from the hattrick website. Does that mean that there will be a D6? __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

03-09-2003, 10:44 AM	#331
damnMikeBrown College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cincinnati, OH	Yes Virginia, there is going to be a VI now

03-09-2003, 01:11 PM	#332
DataKing Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Chicago	illinifan999: You are correct. This means that the U.S. will have a sixth division. __________________ Current Games Diablo III (BattleTag: DataKing#1685) Allegiances: Chicago Bears - Detroit Red Wings - Kansas Jayhawks Awards: 2011 Golden Scribe - Other Sports Category (The Straight(away) and Narrow - A Forza Motorsport 3 Dynasty)

03-09-2003, 01:27 PM	#333
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Wooohoo...something for Hornedfrog to shoot for __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

03-09-2003, 05:30 PM	#334
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Am I the only person here who buys no one over the age of 21? And when training, should I train skills 6 weeks (or the recommended for that skill) in a row, or alternate skills weekly?

03-09-2003, 07:07 PM	#336
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	I try to only get 19 and under. 20 if I must.

03-09-2003, 07:10 PM	#337
Eilim High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Foxboro,MA	I used to be that way, but I modified it a bit. I won't get anyone over 20 in a position I'm training, or position affected by training. But, if theres a position that won't be affected.. I don't worry so much about the age as long as their not a year or two away from decline. The training time plays no part on them and you can get some great deals on mutli-passable skillset players in the 24-27 range. Someone had mentioned it on the board, and it just made too much sense for me not to try.

03-09-2003, 07:12 PM	#338
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	Damn it...my inadequate keeper just took a knee injury, and my weak replacement immediately allows two goals. To go from a reachable 1-0 defecit to 3-0 in less than three minutes sucks ass. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

03-09-2003, 07:15 PM	#339
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Up 4-1 right now!

03-09-2003, 07:16 PM	#340
McSweeny College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerville, MA	down 2-0 on the road

03-09-2003, 07:41 PM	#341
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	I was down 3-0 after 36 minutes, but I have 4-4 now in the 86th minute. I was actually able to grab the lead for a minute, and I have a 2nd straight game with a player with a hattrick. edit: I kissed my sister at 4-4. Oh well, during the game I signed 2 young swedes for $5,000 total, and one I'm training at D, so all's well. And my stadium sold out this game, does anyone know how much larger the stadium should be in relation to your supporters. I have like 550 supporters and sold out my 7000 seat stadium? Last edited by Easy Mac : 03-09-2003 at 07:49 PM.

03-09-2003, 07:48 PM	#342
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	Hallejuha!! I handed a team a huge 9-0 can of whoop-ass. 9 to freakin zip. Poor guy never had a chance. That is a confidence booster. __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"