A Wererolf, a Vampire, and a Villager Walk Into a Bar (Game Over, Vampires Win)

[GoldenEagle]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

4-3 Telle over Henry? I'm not moving, I think over the last 30 mins I'm feeling really good about a henry lynch

I feel the same way about Telle, but it is day 1 and its a random guess.

[britrock88]

Day 1 rarely offers much, but henry and render have called telle into question in a persuasive way. Unsure whether we would look next at render (as telle wishes) or bhlloy voters if telle turns up good.

[Telle]

Ok... we don't know the tie mechanism but I know I'm good and I know if I don't switch then I'm dead. Sooo..

unvote RendeR
vote henry296

[RendeR]

I saw THAT coming.

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by britrock88

Day 1 rarely offers much, but henry and render have called telle into question in a persuasive way. Unsure whether we would look next at render (as telle wishes) or bhlloy voters if telle turns up good.

I wouldn't look at me voters day 1 as voting off the inactive is 100% the right strategy. I would however look at who moved the voting off henry late

[EagleFan]

Deadline

[bhlloy]

deadline?

[britrock88]

A tie!?

[RendeR]

10:01

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by britrock88

Day 1 rarely offers much, but henry and render have called telle into question in a persuasive way. Unsure whether we would look next at render (as telle wishes) or bhlloy voters if telle turns up good.

It seems to me that Render and Telle were having a spat, but even if one of them is bad, i don't see any reason they would go out of their way to argue with the other and get them voted out. Neither knows each other role either way.

[EagleFan]

Day 1 Final:

Telle 4 - henry296 (261), GoldenEagle (277), RendeR (283), britrock88 (286)
henry296 4 - Autumn (82), timmae (93), bhlloy (259), Telle (303)
RendeR 2 - Chief Rum (221), LoneStarGirl (267)

[Telle]

I'm beginning to realize I'm likely the only data analyst by trade in this group....

[EagleFan]

We have a tie... thank you for this wonderful welcome back gift...

Results pending...

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Telle

I'm beginning to realize I'm likely the only data analyst by trade in this group....

And you are an amazing data analyst, however you put far too much emphasis on day 1 votes which, while they can offer some information, is mostly garbage anyway because, Day 1.

The best move was the plan I stated, keep everyone safe and still gain information lest we make a bad judgement call and kill off someone valuable by accident with no real info.

[henry296]

Originally Posted by Telle

I'm beginning to realize I'm likely the only data analyst by trade in this group....

Me too

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

We have a tie... thank you for this wonderful welcome back gift...

Was that sarcasm?

[EagleFan]

The deadline has approached. You cannot make up your mind on who is the evil among you. Is it Telle, is it TendeR, is it henry... Telle is on the blocks but a last minute attempt to save herself is made... Did it work? Or did it cause havoc? Major havoc?

The gate opens. Everyone is summoned to a different location in the yard by a different member of the village.

The elder recites a chant in some ancient dialect... All light is gone...

Everyone feels weird, they feel a change from within... what is happening...

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by RendeR

Was that sarcasm?

Not sarcasm at all...

[RendeR]

Oh no he didn't.........

[EagleFan]

These results may take a few... a bit longer than a normal night... and this is only the 1st tie mechanic... it changes if there is another tie...

[Telle]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

is it TendeR

RendeR, we totally missed an opportunity when naming our children!

[bhlloy]

Let's stay away from ties moving forward, mkay?

[RendeR]

LOL

[RendeR]

TendeR Vittles Moyer?



obviously a cat lover?

[Autumn]

If you had asked, telle, I could have warned you a tie in an EF game was not going to be a good idea.

[Telle]

Originally Posted by Autumn

If you had asked, telle, I could have warned you a tie in an EF game was not going to be a good idea.

Without the tie, I'm guaranteed dead. With the tie, I'm guessing at worst it's both of us? Started thinking towards the end that henry's in league with RendeR, so figured that was better than just me dead... and there's a chance I live through this. Or we're both good guys and I fucked it all up

[Telle]

Originally Posted by RendeR

TendeR Vittles Moyer?



obviously a cat lover?

How could our child NOT be a cat lover? And if it had been our first? That girl can't pass by a cat without stopping to pick it up and smother it with love... and with four cats in the house, it's a wonder she ever gets anything done

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

The deadline has approached. You cannot make up your mind on who is the evil among you. Is it Telle, is it TendeR, is it henry... Telle is on the blocks but a last minute attempt to save herself is made... Did it work? Or did it cause havoc? Major havoc?

The gate opens. Everyone is summoned to a different location in the yard by a different member of the village.

The elder recites a chant in some ancient dialect... All light is gone...

Everyone feels weird, they feel a change from within... what is happening...

"Everyone is summoned..."

This sounds like any one of us could be goners tonight.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Telle

Without the tie, I'm guaranteed dead. With the tie, I'm guessing at worst it's both of us? Started thinking towards the end that henry's in league with RendeR, so figured that was better than just me dead... and there's a chance I live through this. Or we're both good guys and I fucked it all up

"But this is what actually happened...."


Yer both baddies and we caught you.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Telle

How could our child NOT be a cat lover? And if it had been our first? That girl can't pass by a cat without stopping to pick it up and smother it with love... and with four cats in the house, it's a wonder she ever gets anything done

This does explain a LOT....

[EagleFan]

The light has returned. You are all still here and everyone has a puzzled look on their face.

"We dislike indecision. Another tie may not be met so kindly."

You all feel somehow different... maybe...

[EagleFan]

Day 2 has begun

Deadline 10 PM EST 4/30

[RendeR]

SON OF A>>>>>>

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

"Everyone is summoned..."

This sounds like any one of us could be goners tonight.

I have a feeling the entire game is about to be turned on it's head. You were very quiet up to and around deadline tonight Chief...

[Autumn]

A lot to unpack but one thing is that there was no apparent night action, so the idea that the villagers do not have a night kill by default seems legit. Might be coincidence and it was forgotten or blocked or something also

[bhlloy]

Or it was blocked or cancelled by whatever the tie mechanic was?

[RendeR]

Welcome to day 1B......

[henry296]

Groundhog day

[britrock88]

...it just goes on and on, my friend...

[Autumn]

Well, I am probably the only person who can viably discuss what happened due to the tie because of my particular position. When the game started, I was a newly converted werewolf, meaning I was a neutral party. I won by surviving to the end if my Maker died. If my Maker died, I would become a villager, or a werewolf, depending on how the Maker died.

I say this because as of Night 1, I am now a Wolf. It seems clear to me that the magic spell "reset" everyone's roles, as if restarting the game. Because I had a neutral role but am now on the side of good, I can come clean about my switch. Understandably, others may not be able to discuss it.

This will make analyzing the votes of Day 1 nearly impossible. But we at least know the neutral role exists in the game. Hopefully others have something useful they can share. We may eventually be able to learn something from Day 1.

I am going to bed now but will answer any questions for me in the morning.

[GoldenEagle]

I can confirm what Autumn said. I was the wolf seer but now I am just a vanilla werewolf. Hopefully we didn't lose the seer, but if we did then that tie might be pretty costly.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

I have a feeling the entire game is about to be turned on it's head. You were very quiet up to and around deadline tonight Chief...

I wasn't around for most of it. Was back not long before lynch. What exactly did you want me to do or say?

I put in my vote for Render earlier, and saw no reason to switch. Unless you wanted me to jump on the suspicious Telle bandwagon that for some reason no one is talking about now? Four last hour votes?

[Chief Rum]

Ah crap, just read my PM from EagleFan. Yup looks like a reset.

I'll gladly tell you all I was a villager! But now I'm a plain vanilla wolf too. Feels weird to say that.

[RendeR]

Well SOMEONE is lying already......

There can't be that many vanilla wolves out there. 10 players? 3 people claiming to be good guys right away?

ponderous indeed.

[bhlloy]

Took the words right out of my mouth - I would be very certain at least one of those 3 claims is shady if not more.

Very suspicious of anyone rushing in to claim vanilla right now, as it’s the one role that can’t really be CC’d. Even if telling the truth, potentially all you are doing is prompting the potential reveal of more important good guy roles that can then be targeted.

[Chief Rum]

I'm speaking the truth. I can't speak for the others.

That said, understand there are those playing the game who will jump on someone NOT saying they're a vanilla wolf, even if they are. At first, I wasn't going to add that part and then I decided on at least a couple of players in our game today who would be silly enough to jump on the omission. So I decided to be clear.

[bhlloy]

If you are vanilla, I’m not sure you mind getting jumped on to protect those who have more critical roles, if you get what I’m saying. Maybe if there’s no really no NK mechanism then the seer has time to work through these claims, but I don’t like them.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

If you are vanilla, I’m not sure you mind getting jumped on to protect those who have more critical roles, if you get what I’m saying. Maybe if there’s no really no NK mechanism then the seer has time to work through these claims, but I don’t like them.

I don't mind getting jumped on, if a critical role is indeed at risk. But if I know I'm good, it doesn't do the good guys much good to kill me. It would better instead to kill a villager or a vampire.

As a former villager, my understanding is that we had a kill. We should plan for that eventuality again.

I suspect EF will have changed it up completely, as in where before maybe we had a vampire AND villagers, and this time we have just villagers. He probably re-rolled the entire game. That would be my guess.

But I have to believe villagers are a non-negotiable part of the game. Assuming that is true, and knowing what I understand from my time as a villager, they have a kill.

We need to be prepared for that and not act like it possibly won't happen.

[LoneStarGirl]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

The light has returned. You are all still here and everyone has a puzzled look on their face.

"We dislike indecision. Another tie may not be met so kindly."

You all feel somehow different... maybe...

Eaglefan games always have amazing twists... I am for another tie just to see what ominous fate we will be met with

[LoneStarGirl]

Originally Posted by RendeR

Well SOMEONE is lying already......

There can't be that many vanilla wolves out there. 10 players? 3 people claiming to be good guys right away?

ponderous indeed.

Well I agree this is highly suspicious.... especially since I just checked my PMs and I am also a 'vanilla wolf'