Official College Football Thread - Championship Week - Page 7

sterlingice · 12-03-2011, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Anybody that saw Stanford's loss should understand completely why they aren't in the conversation at all.

It's also why Luck doesn't belong in a serious Heisman conversation either.

I know that's how I like to determine the best team in the country- based on one game and not their entire body of work. And by my arbitrary eyes with no actual data or facts.

SI

k0ruptr · 12-03-2011, 11:05 PM

Byu spanks Hawaii , I'm actually happy about it if it brings a coaching change.

mauchow · 12-03-2011, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Bielema is such a bad coach. They aren't running Ball, Cunningham is still always wide open on crossing routes. I told my buddy that going into this game I had MSU up 10-0 based on poor coaching from Wisky. Seems like it's looking like I was right with the assertion.

How do you do it with such ease in the first quarter and then not at all for the rest of the game? YEah, it's a question we'll probably never know the answer to. Hah.

MizzouRah · 12-03-2011, 11:06 PM

You take the top 6 teams in the BCS standings after championship week and you have a playoff. Top two teams get a bye, 3 extra games max.

MizzouRah · 12-03-2011, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Then it's probably good that you aren't involved in the process to select the participants.

That's why I'm in the "we need a playoff system" camp.

DeToxRox · 12-03-2011, 11:08 PM

I don't think Stanford has any room to argue against Okie State at this point. I am not a big Big 12 guy but Okie State has far more impressive wins on their resume than Stanford.

DeToxRox · 12-03-2011, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

How do you do it with such ease in the first quarter and then not at all for the rest of the game? YEah, it's a question we'll probably never know the answer to. Hah.

Last year Wisconsin was carving up State and then in the 3rd they once again gave up running when they got down 7 and it cost them. Bielema is a great program manager; he is recruiting well and selling the school better then it's ever been sold. He is an average at best in game coach though, and that is being nice.

RainMaker · 12-03-2011, 11:10 PM

What if they used some sort of system that the best teams would play each other at the end of the year in a tournament format and then play a championship game with the two teams that made it to the end?

JonInMiddleGA · 12-03-2011, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

That's why I'm in the "we need a playoff system" camp.

Then it's really good that you aren't in the process.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-03-2011, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

What if they used some sort of system that the best teams would play each other at the end of the year in a tournament format and then play a championship game with the two teams that made it to the end?

That's what we have now: A championship game with the top two teams in a single round tournament format.

mauchow · 12-03-2011, 11:16 PM

I'm going to have a heart attack by the end of this one.

k0ruptr · 12-03-2011, 11:18 PM

wow VT laying a fat egg too

DeToxRox · 12-03-2011, 11:19 PM

Hokies played themselves out of the BCS tonight.

Bigsmooth · 12-03-2011, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

I'm happy for D'Antonio. He seems like a good guy.

Yeah same here. Been a fun team to watch all season. He's been able to get some nice athletes for sure. That offense is loaded.

B & B · 12-03-2011, 11:20 PM

Clueless DABO just ran a trick play up by 28 points with 4 minutes left.

Stay Classy Clemson.

Swaggs · 12-03-2011, 11:20 PM

I'm wondering if TCU will be able to break into the top 16 (or do they just have to be ahead of a BCS champ?). There aren't a lot of candidates to drop past them (Houston? the MSU/Wisconsin loser? Georgia? Oklahoma?).

Could be interesting.

DeToxRox · 12-03-2011, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I'm wondering if TCU will be able to break into the top 16 (or do they just have to be ahead of a BCS champ?). There aren't a lot of candidates to drop past them (Houston? the MSU/Wisconsin loser? Georgia? Oklahoma?).

Could be interesting.

TCU is likely in at this point I'd imagine. It seems to be setting up for Michigan/TCU in the Sugar Bowl.

MizzouRah · 12-03-2011, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Then it's really good that you aren't in the process.

You stubborn old man!

RainMaker · 12-03-2011, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

That's what we have now: A championship game with the top two teams in a single round tournament format.

Two top teams as decided by some mystery computer formulas, coaches who don't watch the games, and random people connected to college football.

k0ruptr · 12-03-2011, 11:24 PM

this should be a helluva finish

mauchow · 12-03-2011, 11:25 PM

Time to re-establish the run game please. Another TD for Ball ties Sanders, fyi.

edit: of course in fewer games, but still..

k0ruptr · 12-03-2011, 11:26 PM

Ball deserves to go to NY for the ceremony but Wilson is really having an amazing year as well

RainMaker · 12-03-2011, 11:26 PM

I believe Oklahoma State has more wins over BCS top 25 opponents than Alabama. The SEC is incredibly top heavy. I mean the argument for Alabama getting in is "they didn't get blown out by LSU". I don't know who is 2nd best, but this notion that they are a lock is laughable. They've had one quality win all season. Not like they've blasted through top 10 teams every week.

Swaggs · 12-03-2011, 11:27 PM

Dabo is corny, but I like him.

larrymcg421 · 12-03-2011, 11:28 PM

How about we assign the champions like boxing? This one guy did it:

http://collegefootballbelt.com/index.htm

It started with the winner of the very first title game being the first champion. From there they held the championship until they lost and so on...

Virginia Tech is the current titleholder after taking it from Ga Tech earlier this year. That means Clemson is about to win the national championship. Congrats!

DeToxRox · 12-03-2011, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

I believe Oklahoma State has more wins over BCS top 25 opponents than Alabama. The SEC is incredibly top heavy. I mean the argument for Alabama getting in is "they didn't get blown out by LSU". I don't know who is 2nd best, but this notion that they are a lock is laughable. They've had one quality win all season. Not like they've blasted through top 10 teams every week.

I'm with you on that. Bama doesn't have much of a resume to speak of. They passed the eyeball test most of the time, but it wasn't vs a bunch of world beaters.

mauchow · 12-03-2011, 11:29 PM

Jesus, Oglesby, all night long... ugh, a senior, no less.

Lathum · 12-03-2011, 11:31 PM

wow, what a catch!

Swaggs · 12-03-2011, 11:31 PM

I'm no BCS wizard, but it looks like Alabama and OSU were pretty damn close i the BCS rankings (.950 to .930). With OSU certainly jumping Virginia Tech and probably Stanford (based on the strength of their win tonight) and picking up some SOS from beating Oklahoma (who the computers love), I'd be surprised if they don't jump Alabama.

Julio Riddols · 12-03-2011, 11:31 PM

I love these announcers. What a catch there. You guys should stop worrying about the BCS and just watch this shit.

mauchow · 12-03-2011, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

I love these announcers. What a catch there.

Gus Johnson --- he is ridiculous, lol

mauchow · 12-03-2011, 11:33 PM

Much like the first go around with MSU - I ain't sleeping tonight for a LLOOoOOOONG time.

Grover · 12-03-2011, 11:33 PM

Gus Johnson is my favorite football announcer. CBS should have never let him go.

k0ruptr · 12-03-2011, 11:34 PM

I would not want to face either of these teams in a bowl game.

Julio Riddols · 12-03-2011, 11:35 PM

They ought to find a way for these two to play a 3rd time.

mauchow · 12-03-2011, 11:35 PM

I would LOVE a pick six right now - I had the flu yesterday and getting over it yet still with no sleep last night. I need the pick six for sleep. k thx WI defense.

Tigercat · 12-03-2011, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I'm no BCS wizard, but it looks like Alabama and OSU were pretty damn close i the BCS rankings (.950 to .930). With OSU certainly jumping Virginia Tech and probably Stanford (based on the strength of their win tonight) and picking up some SOS from beating Oklahoma (who the computers love), I'd be surprised if they don't jump Alabama.

OSU will win every, or 95%+ of the computer polls over Bama. That means they can get in with 100% 3rd place votes or higher with 25% of those being 2nd ahead of Bama. (For every 4th place they have, they need one more 2nd place above that 25% mark.)

I think it's very possible. It may come down to how many voters sleep walk Stanford into staying above OSU.

cuervo72 · 12-03-2011, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

"they didn't get blown out by LSU"

Heh, that really is the criteria, isn't it? It's not about who you've beaten, it's who has the least offensive loss.

mauchow · 12-03-2011, 11:40 PM

Surprise run there. Thank you.

Big stop here. Please. One big 3rd down stop.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-03-2011, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigercat

OSU will win every, or 95%+ of the computer polls over Bama. That means they can get in with 100% 3rd place votes or higher with 25% of those being 2nd ahead of Bama. (For every 4th place they have, they need one more 2nd place above that 25% mark.)

I think it's very possible. It may come down to how many voters sleep walk Stanford into staying above OSU.

Interesting, with VT losing tonight, I could see some of their voters shifting to OSU. Maybe, we won't get stuck with a snoozer of a National Championship after all.

mauchow · 12-03-2011, 11:40 PM

Really? That better be reviewed.

Incredible regardless. But, c'mon, review the damn thing.

VPI97 · 12-03-2011, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

wow VT laying a fat egg too

Well, we had injury issues going into tonight, but when you lose your best defensive player in the first half AND your best offensive player gets hobbled as well, these things happen. We just don't have the depth to overcome those deficiencies against a good team like Clemson. On the bright side, we should end up going bowling right down the street in the Chicken Bowl, so I know where I'll be for New Year's Eve.

Lathum · 12-03-2011, 11:41 PM

wow, very interesting review coming up

Julio Riddols · 12-03-2011, 11:41 PM

HOLY HELL IF THATS A CATCH

mauchow · 12-03-2011, 11:42 PM

Incomplete 100% with the bobble.

Julio Riddols · 12-03-2011, 11:43 PM

Incredible effort despite the lack of a catch.

mauchow · 12-03-2011, 11:43 PM

At least in my Rose-colored biased glasses.

SFL Cat · 12-03-2011, 11:44 PM

Sorry...still don't see OSU supplanting Bama for the title game...love to be proved wrong though.

Honolulu_Blue · 12-03-2011, 11:44 PM

Mike wasn't right. Or the refs weren't right.

Mike said the toe in bounds was enough and it wasn't a catch because of the bobble at the end.

The Refs just said that his foot came down out of bounds.

Same decision but two totally different reasons.

Either way, it was the right call.

Julio Riddols · 12-03-2011, 11:44 PM

Wisconsin needs to go smash mouth and seal this. Go goalline and see what those boys are made of up front.

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k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	this should be a helluva finish __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

12-03-2011, 11:06 PM	#304
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	You take the top 6 teams in the BCS standings after championship week and you have a playoff. Top two teams get a bye, 3 extra games max.

12-03-2011, 11:08 PM	#306
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	I don't think Stanford has any room to argue against Okie State at this point. I am not a big Big 12 guy but Okie State has far more impressive wins on their resume than Stanford.

12-03-2011, 11:10 PM	#308
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	What if they used some sort of system that the best teams would play each other at the end of the year in a tournament format and then play a championship game with the two teams that made it to the end?

12-03-2011, 11:16 PM	#311
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	I'm going to have a heart attack by the end of this one.

12-03-2011, 11:19 PM	#313
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Hokies played themselves out of the BCS tonight.

12-03-2011, 11:25 PM	#321
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Time to re-establish the run game please. Another TD for Ball ties Sanders, fyi. edit: of course in fewer games, but still.. Last edited by mauchow : 12-03-2011 at 11:25 PM.

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k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	Ball deserves to go to NY for the ceremony but Wilson is really having an amazing year as well __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

12-03-2011, 11:26 PM	#323
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	I believe Oklahoma State has more wins over BCS top 25 opponents than Alabama. The SEC is incredibly top heavy. I mean the argument for Alabama getting in is "they didn't get blown out by LSU". I don't know who is 2nd best, but this notion that they are a lock is laughable. They've had one quality win all season. Not like they've blasted through top 10 teams every week.

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12-03-2011, 11:28 PM	#325
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	How about we assign the champions like boxing? This one guy did it: http://collegefootballbelt.com/index.htm It started with the winner of the very first title game being the first champion. From there they held the championship until they lost and so on... Virginia Tech is the current titleholder after taking it from Ga Tech earlier this year. That means Clemson is about to win the national championship. Congrats! __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

12-03-2011, 11:29 PM	#327
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Jesus, Oglesby, all night long... ugh, a senior, no less.

12-03-2011, 11:31 PM	#328
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	wow, what a catch!

12-03-2011, 11:31 PM	#329
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I'm no BCS wizard, but it looks like Alabama and OSU were pretty damn close i the BCS rankings (.950 to .930). With OSU certainly jumping Virginia Tech and probably Stanford (based on the strength of their win tonight) and picking up some SOS from beating Oklahoma (who the computers love), I'd be surprised if they don't jump Alabama. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

12-03-2011, 11:31 PM	#330
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	I love these announcers. What a catch there. You guys should stop worrying about the BCS and just watch this shit. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA Last edited by Julio Riddols : 12-03-2011 at 11:32 PM.

12-03-2011, 11:33 PM	#332
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Much like the first go around with MSU - I ain't sleeping tonight for a LLOOoOOOONG time.

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12-03-2011, 11:34 PM	#334
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12-03-2011, 11:35 PM	#335
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	They ought to find a way for these two to play a 3rd time. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

12-03-2011, 11:35 PM	#336
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	I would LOVE a pick six right now - I had the flu yesterday and getting over it yet still with no sleep last night. I need the pick six for sleep. k thx WI defense.

12-03-2011, 11:40 PM	#339
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Surprise run there. Thank you. Big stop here. Please. One big 3rd down stop.

12-03-2011, 11:40 PM	#341
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Really? That better be reviewed. Incredible regardless. But, c'mon, review the damn thing.

12-03-2011, 11:41 PM	#343
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	wow, very interesting review coming up

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Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	HOLY HELL IF THATS A CATCH __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

12-03-2011, 11:42 PM	#345
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Incomplete 100% with the bobble. Last edited by mauchow : 12-03-2011 at 11:42 PM.

12-03-2011, 11:43 PM	#346
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	Incredible effort despite the lack of a catch. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

12-03-2011, 11:43 PM	#347
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	At least in my Rose-colored biased glasses.

12-03-2011, 11:44 PM	#348
SFL Cat College Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: South Florida	Sorry...still don't see OSU supplanting Bama for the title game...love to be proved wrong though.

12-03-2011, 11:44 PM	#349
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	Mike wasn't right. Or the refs weren't right. Mike said the toe in bounds was enough and it wasn't a catch because of the bobble at the end. The Refs just said that his foot came down out of bounds. Same decision but two totally different reasons. Either way, it was the right call. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

12-03-2011, 11:44 PM	#350
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