WW CLVI - Clue: Master Detective - GAME OVER! MURDERERS WIN! (Post 1817)

[Danny]

Interesting to how how three different people answer the same question.

[Danny]

four

[saldana]

how many more of us can explain this for Bullet? lmao

[saldana]

i think i still owe him for the alone in the dark game

vote jag

[Chief Rum]

Y'all are post whores!

[Danny]

bullet, do you need further clarification?

[Coffee Warlord]

4 - murrayyyy
4 - britrock
3 - Chubby
2 - JAG
1 - Zinto
1 - Chief Rum
1 - path12

[Chubby]

hey, did you guys know that a soothsayer can check to see if someone is telling the truth?

[Coffee Warlord]

For what it's worth, a soothsayer can determine whether or not someone is telling the truth.

[PackerFanatic]

Now we got the official explanation from CW. Thanks.

[bulletsponge]

hmm still confused

[Lathum]

Question for Saldana. Is your attempted vote for autumn based off of last game?

[path12]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

For what it's worth, a soothsayer can determine whether or not someone is telling the truth.

What if the soothsayer is a yak? I mean, those fuckin' things, right?

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Question for Saldana. Is your attempted vote for autumn based off of last game?

hell yeah

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by path12

What if the soothsayer is a yak? I mean, those fuckin' things, right?

Did you just insult a yak in my presence?

[Lathum]

I find that interesting since Murray5Y posted an incorrect vote count that led to that spiral.

[Chief Rum]

Day One vote, so it's worthless. But I waited this long just to see who popped up. I don't like the run on Chubby, even though I would guess it is innocent. If I had to choose between murrayyyyy and britrock, I would likely go with britrock, simply because I have been a wolf with him, and I know he can be a good one. Plus, this is my first time playing with murrayyyyy.

But I would rather see what other reactions we can get to a tighter vote. So I'll vote JAG and get him up even with Chubby. He can handle it.

VOTE JAG

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I find that interesting since Murray5Y posted an incorrect vote count that led to that spiral.

yeah, i havent forgotten him either, but am willing to give him a pass til next game since he is new to our group, after which he is on the list.

[Lathum]

Wtf?

[fontisian]

Alright. My powers aren't all that useful and I don't really want to become a murderer, so giving you guys this information is probably the most helpful thing I can do.

I'm a member of the Big Six. I can try to kill one person at one point in the game. If the character fulfills some pretty general conditions, they will die and I will still be a towny. If they are my informant, they will die and I will become a murderer.

[Lathum]

My wtf was in response to the multiple posts. Not Sals answer.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by fontisian

Alright. My powers aren't all that useful and I don't really want to become a murderer, so giving you guys this information is probably the most helpful thing I can do.

I'm a member of the Big Six. I can try to kill one person at one point in the game. If the character fulfills some pretty general conditions, they will die and I will still be a towny. If they are my informant, they will die and I will become a murderer.

Are you like Meg from Family Guy, with the amazing ability to grow your fingernails?

Interesting reveal, considering we have stated it as a likely goal of ours to eliminate the Big Six.

[fontisian]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Interesting reveal, considering we have stated it as a likely goal of ours to eliminate the Big Six.

My point is that your premise (that the Big Six are trying to kill their informants) is flawed.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by fontisian

Alright. My powers aren't all that useful and I don't really want to become a murderer, so giving you guys this information is probably the most helpful thing I can do.

I'm a member of the Big Six. I can try to kill one person at one point in the game. If the character fulfills some pretty general conditions, they will die and I will still be a towny. If they are my informant, they will die and I will become a murderer.

Originally Posted by fontisian

My point is that your premise (that the Big Six are trying to kill their informants) is flawed.

how is the premise flawed? (bolded part mine)

[fontisian]

I would only try to kill my informant if I wanted to be a murderer. Since I want to stay town, I'm trying to avoid killing my informant.

[Coffee Warlord]

About to head home. Availability limited until closer to deadline.

4 - murrayyyy
4 - britrock
3 - Chubby
3 - JAG
1 - Zinto
1 - Chief Rum
1 - path12

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by fontisian

I would only try to kill my informant if I wanted to be a murderer. Since I want to stay town, I'm trying to avoid killing my informant.

Aww, but that's the rub. You, fontisian the player, being someone who doesn't feel like becoming a murderer, will desire to avoid your informant and thus not become a murderer. But you, fontisian in your role as a Big Six member, have an obligation to your character to find and eliminate your Informant, regardless of the cost, because your character is being blackmailed.

And, we, as the village in general, cannot trust that you will successfully avoid your Informant, even if you attempt to do so, nor can we control what happens if you fail to avoid your Informant.

[bulletsponge]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I find that interesting since Murray5Y posted an incorrect vote count that led to that spiral.

as a wolf with him THAT game, he paniked when he did that and was afraid his mistake would be taken as a wolf move and get him killed. it wasnt intentional

[bulletsponge]

Originally Posted by fontisian

Alright. My powers aren't all that useful and I don't really want to become a murderer, so giving you guys this information is probably the most helpful thing I can do.

I'm a member of the Big Six. I can try to kill one person at one point in the game. If the character fulfills some pretty general conditions, they will die and I will still be a towny. If they are my informant, they will die and I will become a murderer.

dude wtf? save that for when your about to hang. i suspect this rookie wont live long

[britrock88]

Updating CR's good work.

britrock88 (4) -- JAG (132), PackerFanatic (194), path12 (278), Darth Vilus (292)
Zinto (1) -- mauchow (141)
murrayyyyy (4)-- ntndeacon (150), Lathum (204), DQ_BOY1000 (231), Chubby (291)
JAG (3) -- britrock88 (152), saldana (304), Chief Rum (317)
Chief Rum (1) -- bulletsponge (216)
Chubby (3) -- Danny (238), Autumn (248), murrayyyyy (251)
path12 (1) -- hoopsguy (276)




Day One Vote History

JAG votes britrock (132)-- britrock 1
Danny votes hoopsguy (137)-- hoopsguy 1
mauchow votes Zinto (141)-- Zinto 1
ntndeacon votes murrayyyyy (150)-- murrayyyyy 1
britrock88 votes JAG (152)-- JAG 1
Danny unvotes hoopsguy (154)-- hoopsguy 0
PackerFanatic votes britrock88 (194)-- britrock88 2
bulletsponge votes britrock88 (203)-- britrock88 3
Lathum votes murrayyyyy (204)-- murrayyyyy 2
murrayyyyy votes DQ_BOY1000 (210)-- DQ_BOY1000 1
bulletsponge unvotes britrock88 (216)-- britrock88 2
bulletsponge votes Chief Rum (216)-- Chief Rum 1
Danny votes hoopsguy (226)-- hoopsguy 1
Danny unvotes hoopsguy (229)-- hoopsguy 0
DQ_BOY1000 votes murrayyyyy (231)-- murrayyyyy 3
Danny votes Chubby (238)-- Chubby 1
Autumn vors Chubby (248)-- Chubby 2
murrayyyyy unvotes DQ_BOY1000 (251)-- DQ_BOY1000 0
murrayyyyy votes Chubby (251)-- Chubby 3
saldana votes Autumn Not Eligible (272)-- No Vote
hoopsguy votes path12 (276)-- path12 1
path12 votes britrock88 (278)-- britrock88 3
saldana unvotes Autumn Not Eligible (281)-- No Vote
Chubby votes murrayyyyy (291)-- murrayyyyy 4
Darth Vilus votes britrock88 (292)-- britrock88 4
saldana votes JAG (304)-- JAG 2
Chief Rum votes JAG (317)-- JAG 3

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

as a wolf with him THAT game, he paniked when he did that and was afraid his mistake would be taken as a wolf move and get him killed. it wasnt intentional

I don't think Lathum was suggesting murrayyyyy intentionally did that. He was suggesting (I believe, Lathum, correct me if I am wrong) that saldana should have been more interested in voting out murrayyyyy because of that mishap instead of Autumn.

[mauchow]

A reveal already !

I have a game at 630 & 730 but only if we win. Chances are we will lose and I'll be around at deadline. With that said my vote is meaningless on zinto so...

unvote zinto
Vote chubby

Pcjbl shoutout.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

dude wtf? save that for when your about to hang. i suspect this rookie wont live long

Actually the two games I have seen fontisian play so far, she has played very well. I don't know if this reveal will end up helping her much, but I have also in the past found myself at odds between my character's goals and my own natural tendencies.

[britrock88]

Yet to vote: Zinto, DaddyTorgo, KatyLied, fontisian, bhlloy

[ntndeacon]

I don't know if I will be back on til late... So let me make a move that will lessen the threeway
...
Unvote murrayyyyy
Vote britrock

[fontisian]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

dude wtf? save that for when your about to hang. i suspect this rookie wont live long

How that information save me if I were about to be lynched? With the way the thread has been going, it's much more likely that it would seal the deal.

One kill in a game this large is not that helpful, especially considering that it can easily fail should those general conditions not be fulfilled. I judged my chances of being killed early because of this, which are admittedly high, against the usefulness of the information for town and decided to reveal.

Vote: murrayyyyy to keep this competitive

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Actually the two games I have seen fontisian play so far, she has played very well. I don't know if this reveal will end up helping her much, but I have also in the past found myself at odds between my character's goals and my own natural tendencies.

Yeah, it can be tough, but I think its important to try and play according to your character.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I don't think Lathum was suggesting murrayyyyy intentionally did that. He was suggesting (I believe, Lathum, correct me if I am wrong) that saldana should have been more interested in voting out murrayyyyy because of that mishap instead of Autumn.

Correct. I never for a second thought Murry5y did that on purpose.

[Zinto]

I guess the question I have is do the big six have a victory condition to kill the informant that they are targeting? It is an easy way to keep them wanting to kill the informant regardless of becoming a wolf or villager because of it.

[fontisian]

I do not have an additional victory condition, unless I kill my informant and become a murderer. Seriously, if I did I wouldn't have role revealed.

[Zinto]

I assume that at this point Font is a villager and is not worth voting on today but she is someone to keep an I on in the near future.

[Zinto]

I think I am going to vote for murrayyyyy, mainly because he was a wolf last game and kicked the village's collective butt by playing so well.

Vote murrayyyyy

[Danny]

I will actively vote to help make sure Murray does not get voted out. I would prefer not to lynch him day 1 in his second game.

[Coffee Warlord]

5 - murrayyyy
5 - britrock
4 - Chubby
3 - JAG
1 - Chief Rum
1 - path12

[fontisian]

Fine, pile on the guilt Danny.
Unvote murrayyyyy
Vote Chubby

[Danny]

Originally Posted by fontisian

Fine, pile on the guilt Danny.
Unvote murrayyyyy
Vote Chubby

[path12]

Originally Posted by fontisian

Alright. My powers aren't all that useful and I don't really want to become a murderer, so giving you guys this information is probably the most helpful thing I can do.

I'm a member of the Big Six. I can try to kill one person at one point in the game. If the character fulfills some pretty general conditions, they will die and I will still be a towny. If they are my informant, they will die and I will become a murderer.

Do you have to specifically request to try and kill that person? Or do you have to search?

And if you have to search do you have to do it every night?

Speaking for myself I appreciate the info since most of my day has been speculating on the Big Six.

[fontisian]

Originally Posted by path12

Do you have to specifically request to try and kill that person? Or do you have to search?

And if you have to search do you have to do it every night?

Speaking for myself I appreciate the info since most of my day has been speculating on the Big Six.

My power basically consists of "pick a player to kill and hope they meet the requirements." If they don't, nothing happens and my one-shot ability is wasted. Maybe CW will tell me some more info later, but for now that's all I know.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by fontisian

I would only try to kill my informant if I wanted to be a murderer. Since I want to stay town, I'm trying to avoid killing my informant.

font, only issue I have with your reveal is we don't know if there are any other means by which you could be converted, in which case you may have helped the murderers' side out inadvertently even though you want to remain on the non-murderer's side.

[KatyLied]

Vote Chief Rum

Done. I'm going to drink now.