Beware the Fat Man in Red (Game Over: Village Wins!)

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

Okay where were we? I gotta catch up in the post count department, damn it!

First game in months and I fall asleep at the wheel. Dummy me.

I actually nearly checked in Sunday night when PMs were going out but wanted to wait until CF got their PM before posting and then.. not sure what happened. Packer game I guess

Note this post.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Note this post.

Explaining that I completely forgot about the game? Got it!

[GoldenEagle]

VOTE ABE

I would like to see where the voting goes.

[britrock88]

1 mauboy - CF (211)
4 britrock - DT (185), Autumn (267), Abe (283), CR (293)
4 Abe - mauboy (286), britrock (297), Zinto (299), GE (303)

Working on my answer for ya, JAG.

[Autumn]

Still trying to get kids to bed. Glad to see you Mauboy.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Still trying to get kids to bed. Glad to see you Mauboy.

So, our date tonight, we still on?

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by JAG

If you weren't facing execution Brit, who would you vote for and why?

It's only a hunch, but I still feel most wary about DT. He based his initial D1 vote against Simbo on Simbo's "either DT's lying or he isn't" line. He also shot back at my vote on him today by voting me -- but in the very early going, far before self-preservation would have been the prevailing rationale.

Yeah, he's been active, which is nice, but he's stirred up a lot of doubt thus far. Wolves win by obfuscating things from the village. Yeah, he switched his vote at the deadline. What wolf wouldn't, if it was already obvious that he was in the thread and had a vote sitting on the revealed seer? Also remember that GE had to cajole DT into moving the vote. And all this talk about the wolves changing their NK in response to the reveal? Remember that in this game, only 1 wolf at any given time makes the call for the kill (to my knowledge). So it could easily be the case that a wolf was in the thread, but couldn't get a hold of the other wolf responsible for the kill order before deadline.

[Autumn]

Never mind, no I'm not.

[Autumn]

Good points, Brit, particularly about the kill order thing. Typically the other wolves would be allowed to change kill orders, but it does depend a lot on the ruleset, so that's a possibility.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Never mind, no I'm not.

lol, you're not glad to see me?

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

Explaining that I completely forgot about the game? Got it!

was thinking more the part where you linked yourself to CF in your post...only one reason you'd know somebody else who got a PM...

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

CrimsonFox needs to make space in his inbox. Then I can sinish sending out the roles and the game can begin.

I hopped into the thread on this post -- I didn't want to post until it was official that CF got a pm so I bowed out for the night and never checked in again until tonight.

[GoldenEagle]

A really sick play of the wolves would be to keep me alive and have the village guess if I am or not.

We should get some night 1 answers tonight though.

[Autumn]

Yes, you should really do that wolves! That would show us!

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

I hopped into the thread on this post -- I didn't want to post until it was official that CF got a pm so I bowed out for the night and never checked in again until tonight.

Aaaah - nevermind - I missed that post earlier in the thread obviously.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by britrock88

1 mauboy - CF (211)
4 britrock - DT (185), Autumn (267), Abe (283), CR (293)
4 Abe - mauboy (286), britrock (297), Zinto (299), GE (303)

Working on my answer for ya, JAG.

Ummm....okay.....

[britrock88]

Ha, sorry, Abe. I don't think there's a real beef on you. Mau had a vote, I moved to have someone within 2 votes of me, and Zinto and GE made a real race out of it.

[britrock88]

If I had my way, neither of us would go down tonight...

[DaddyTorgo]

Not liking all these votes on Abe...

[Zinto]

Who would you rather have votes DT? Clearly we cannot all pile on Brit or we will have no meaningful analysis of today.

[Zinto]

I will be on for tenish minutes and then it is off to work I go.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by britrock88

It's only a hunch, but I still feel most wary about DT. He based his initial D1 vote against Simbo on Simbo's "either DT's lying or he isn't" line. He also shot back at my vote on him today by voting me -- but in the very early going, far before self-preservation would have been the prevailing rationale.

Yeah, he's been active, which is nice, but he's stirred up a lot of doubt thus far. Wolves win by obfuscating things from the village. Yeah, he switched his vote at the deadline. What wolf wouldn't, if it was already obvious that he was in the thread and had a vote sitting on the revealed seer? Also remember that GE had to cajole DT into moving the vote. And all this talk about the wolves changing their NK in response to the reveal? Remember that in this game, only 1 wolf at any given time makes the call for the kill (to my knowledge). So it could easily be the case that a wolf was in the thread, but couldn't get a hold of the other wolf responsible for the kill order before deadline.

1. Most D1 votes are based on nothing so I don't take much from that.
2. He did vote you early, but his reason was for more than self-preservation, as you were in a group of suspects he had.
3. I think instead of creating doubt, DT's been trying to create order from chaos. I'm not sold on his theory, but I see the logic of what he's saying and can't say for sure he's wrong (he's right about me at least, so that's a good start).

I don't think it necessarily makes you a wolf that I don't agree with your opinion of DT, just trying to work out who to vote for. Not sure I really time or inclination to make a case for third party, so I'm probably going with you or Abe. On one hand I had some minor suspicion of you earlier today, Abe not so much though I'm pretty much just neutral on him. Out of time for now, so I'll go Brit for now and hopefully pop back in to see if anything comes up closer to deadline.

Vote Britrock88

[britrock88]

1 mauboy - CF (211)
5 britrock - DT (185), Autumn (267), Abe (283), CR (293), JAG (322)
4 Abe - mauboy (286), britrock (297), Zinto (299), GE (303)

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Zinto

Who would you rather have votes DT? Clearly we cannot all pile on Brit or we will have no meaningful analysis of today.

Someone on my list of suspects. Hell...put two of them up against each other and we'd learn a whole hell of a lot - if we had two of them up and lynched one we'd be a long way towards uncovering the wolves.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by JAG

3. I think instead of creating doubt, DT's been trying to create order from chaos. I'm not sold on his theory, but I see the logic of what he's saying and can't say for sure he's wrong (he's right about me at least, so that's a good start).

Yes, this. Just trying to create some order out of this and give us a direction to go on that seems the most logical based on the evidence we have so far.

[mauchow]

We have two players that at this point in time have about the same chance of being a wolf in my opinion so I'm not sure why your top two suspects would be the best to put up compared to what we've got.

[Zinto]

I would be willing to move off of Abe since enough people do not seem to think that he is a wolf at this point but I need to make a quick decision.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

We have two players that at this point in time have about the same chance of being a wolf in my opinion so I'm not sure why your top two suspects would be the best to put up compared to what we've got.

Based on my analysis of last night.

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by Zinto

I would be willing to move off of Abe since enough people do not seem to think that he is a wolf at this point but I need to make a quick decision.

I know that the odds are higher that Abe's a wolf than I am...

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by britrock88

I know that the odds are higher that Abe's a wolf than I am...

Lol

[britrock88]

So who do we go after, Abe?

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by britrock88

So who do we go after, Abe?

I wish for self serving-ness I had a great answer, something really insightful ,but I don't have it, sorry

[mauchow]

Quiet deadline.

[britrock88]

I'd be happy to talk.

[britrock88]

DT, it might be worth knowing at least one of the two people you suspect (other than me).

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

Quiet deadline.

typically means villager vs. villager...especially if it's close. not always though.

[mauchow]

Two from here according to DT:



brit
CR
CF
mau
autumn

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by britrock88

DT, it might be worth knowing at least one of the two people you suspect (other than me).

I named them earlier.

Autumn, you, CF, Chief Rum, and mauboy were the five

[britrock88]

Well, we have five in the thread, so perhaps enough to get some momentum going...

[mauchow]

unvote abe
vote bitrock

[britrock88]

unvote Abe Sargent

vote CrimsonFox

If I explained, it'd render this useless.

[mauchow]

I'll probably take hell for that, but it's all good!

Abe and britrock..wait I thought it was bitrock?

[britrock88]

as of 341:

1 mauboy - CF (211)
6 britrock - DT (185), Autumn (267), Abe (283), CR (293), JAG (322), mau (340)
2 Abe - Zinto (299), GE (303)
1 CF - britrock (341)

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by britrock88

unvote Abe Sargent

vote CrimsonFox

If I explained, it'd render this useless.

.....

[GoldenEagle]

UNVOTE ABE

VOTE CRIMSONFOX

[GoldenEagle]

Oops

UNVOTE ABE

VOTE CRIMSONFOX

Let's see what happens.

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

.....

Put it this way... either you, DT, or CF is getting lynched.

[Abe Sargent]

What the hell is going on?

[britrock88]

as of 347:

1 mauboy - CF (211)
6 britrock - DT (185), Autumn (267), Abe (283), CR (293), JAG (322), mau (340)
1 Abe - Zinto (299)
2 CF - britrock (341), GE (347)

[Abe Sargent]

It's like everyone is moving and shifting all of the sudden - makes me start doubting my views of who is what