Werewolf: Hunt for Necromancers - GAME OVER! Post #3469 - Page 7

SnDvls · 06-19-2006, 06:06 PM

I see bek here so it should help some now with everyone checking in.

Bek · 06-19-2006, 06:08 PM

Im finally here after a long day...after working in the morning, i am just getting on know...i hope i will be able to catch up on everything that went on...good luck to all of us

Passacaglia · 06-19-2006, 06:14 PM

Okay, Bek's here, so like I said, I'll change my vote.

UNVOTE BEK
VOTE BARKEEP49

Barkeep's been pushing for a lot of reveals that I disagree with.

Bek · 06-19-2006, 06:17 PM

Vote St Cronin

Barkeep49 · 06-19-2006, 06:20 PM

Pass by a lot of votes you mean 1? I've pushed for one reveal, that of the Ruling Class. Furthermore reveals are good. It was the reveals which won us the last game.

Barkeep49 · 06-19-2006, 06:21 PM

Or rather, reveals are often good. In this game I think they're of less value then others, especially with the neutrals. But reveals help to form circles of trust. And that is the time proven effective strategy for villagers winning the game.

Barkeep49 · 06-19-2006, 06:21 PM

So bek any thoughts at all?

Abe Sargent · 06-19-2006, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119

I highly doubt we have multiple EGs...especially with the avatar a possible role based on player choice. Id bet money against it in my mind, as i feel the whole multiple thing applies to some of the other roles like favoured by the gods and what not. I might be wrong, but im playing under the assumption we have 1 EG this game

If we have one, and another reveals, can we be certain that's a fake?

I've seen the protagonists make many mistakes in WW games assuming that a role can't be held by more than one person.

Especially since:

Post 247, hoopsguy says:

Quote:

n terms of multiple holders of the role, the Pharoah can only issue his order to one person - he would not be able to issue two or more sets of orders in hopes that there are multiple parties. If an Elite Guard is moved off his protect by Pharoah's order he will be informed of this via PM.

-Anxiety

Abe Sargent · 06-19-2006, 06:32 PM

As a matter of fact, the more I think about this, the more it just seems like a bad idea, altogether.

Suppose there are two EGs, and the pharoah issues an order. One follows the order. Now, if the other reveals, honestly, then the pharoah would say, "nope" and we'd end up lynching an EG. The strategy would backfire and help the necros.

-Anxiety

Passacaglia · 06-19-2006, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Pass by a lot of votes you mean 1? I've pushed for one reveal, that of the Ruling Class. Furthermore reveals are good. It was the reveals which won us the last game.

I was thinking of two -- for the ruling class, and the elite guard. Granted, the elite guard was something down the road. I wasn't in last game, but it just seems to me that reveals make targets.

SnDvls · 06-19-2006, 06:38 PM

hmmm...here and gone...I'm sticking with my vote

dubb93 · 06-19-2006, 06:44 PM

Just finished catching up with the thread, doesn't seem as random as most day 1's for some reason. However, I'm pretty sure Saldana isn't on the up and up

VOTE SALDANA

Barkeep49 · 06-19-2006, 06:45 PM

Actually I'm not pushing for the EG to reveal at all. Only trying to ensure we don't get caught in a fake reveal.

Anxiety: With all the bad guys have going against them I don't think it's likely that there are two egs out there. Why SHOULD we suppose there are two egs? In your scenrario, sure it's not great. But is it a likely case?

Passacaglia · 06-19-2006, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Actually I'm not pushing for the EG to reveal at all. Only trying to ensure we don't get caught in a fake reveal.

Anxiety: With all the bad guys have going against them I don't think it's likely that there are two egs out there. Why SHOULD we suppose there are two egs? In your scenrario, sure it's not great. But is it a likely case?

Re-reading, you're right -- you weren't pushing for an Elite Guard reveal. I'm going to keep the vote out there, though, since it's the only thing that's really occured to me.

Blade6119 · 06-19-2006, 06:51 PM

UNVOTE ST.CRONIN
VOTE ANXIETY

Qwikshot · 06-19-2006, 06:55 PM

I don't have any particular reason for anything, but I'll vote the new guy

{b]Vote Bek[/b]

1st day voting stinks

Qwikshot · 06-19-2006, 06:55 PM

er

Vote Bek

stupid typo

Barkeep49 · 06-19-2006, 06:58 PM

Well he posted a vote and then disappeared. Basically the same, I feel, as a nonvote.

Vote Bek

Barkeep49 · 06-19-2006, 06:58 PM

So with my vote I think we've started to see some consolidation. hint hint, nudge nudge.

saldana · 06-19-2006, 06:59 PM

qwik, the deadline is 10pm in eastern TZ, to answer your question

Alan T · 06-19-2006, 07:01 PM

Anxiety, lets follow out your logic a little further here and look at all possible scenerios..

A - 1 Guard
B - 2 Guards
C - 0 Guards

Now A.1 - 1 guard and we do this strat. When they reveal themselves later on, we can verify they are telling the truth. Win for us

A.2 - If we do not do this strat, and they reveal later on, we have no way to be sure if they are still telling the truth or not... We will say this is a Draw

B.1 - Person reveals they are a guard, we do this strat, but they didnt end up being the guard who got the ordered. They end up not being trusted, and we lynch someone that hurts us. Loss for us

B.2 - Person reveals they are a guard, we do not do the strat, the other guard reveals they are the guard, so we end up in a trust war, where likely end up still lynching one of our two guards. Loss for us.

C.1 or C.2 its a draw either way since it does not end up impacting anything..

So in my mind, it only benefits us to go with barkeep's plan here. I can't see any downside from it that wouldn't already be there in the case of multiple guards and a reveal.

Blade6119 · 06-19-2006, 07:02 PM

Chubby 7
dubb93 6
Lathum 5
kingfc22 5
Tyrith 4
Bek 3

He hasnt been all that quiet, comparitively. I just think you guys are making a move off hypocritic views of posting quantity

Alan T · 06-19-2006, 07:03 PM

This is what I see as the current vote totals. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

St. cronin (4) - Anxiety (178), Schmidty (200), Chubby (227), Bek (304)
Bulletsponge (1) - Tyrith (196)
tyrith (1) - Kingfc (276)
Vince (1) - Coffee Warlord (220)
Dubb93 (1) - Saldana (248)
Tanglewood (1) - Lathum (256)
Bek (4) - Sndvls (266), Vince (285), Qwikshot (317), Barkeep (318)
Anxiety (2) - Alan T (275), Blade (315)
Barkeep (1) - Passacaglia (303)
Saldana (1) - dubb93 (312)

Blade6119 · 06-19-2006, 07:04 PM

dola, dont take hypocritic the wrong way...just saying others are quiet too, no offense to anyone!

Tyrith · 06-19-2006, 07:06 PM

My tally has it the same except that I'm counting bullet's vote for me at the moment. No votes are path, swaggs, and tangle.

Barkeep49 · 06-19-2006, 07:07 PM

Blade: That includes pregame activity. Bek has had NO game related activity besides the vote. Everyone else I see has at least posted a vote and a sentence or two.

Blade6119 · 06-19-2006, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrith

My tally has it the same except that I'm counting bullet's vote for me at the moment. No votes are path, swaggs, and tangle.

Bullets vote does not count in my mind...but this is what i mean. Everyone jumps on bek, when we have 4 non-voters right now...

Tyrith · 06-19-2006, 07:08 PM

Right now I think everyone has just made way, way, waaaay too much out of the whole possibility of two EGs. Hoops couldn't come out and say that there would only be one because it would go against the nature of how he did roles, however, it seems unlikely there would be two because of the likelyhood it would unbalance the game later and the interaction with the pharaoh order. We shouldn't be making dollars out of pennies, here.

Blade6119 · 06-19-2006, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Blade: That includes pregame activity. Bek has had NO game related activity besides the vote. Everyone else I see has at least posted a vote and a sentence or two.

4 non voters(granted, bullet tried) should be looked at before bek to me. I think tangle and swaggs have done less then bek

Barkeep49 · 06-19-2006, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T

Anxiety, lets follow out your logic a little further here and look at all possible scenerios..

A - 1 Guard
B - 2 Guards
C - 0 Guards

Now A.1 - 1 guard and we do this strat. When they reveal themselves later on, we can verify they are telling the truth. Win for us

A.2 - If we do not do this strat, and they reveal later on, we have no way to be sure if they are still telling the truth or not... We will say this is a Draw

B.1 - Person reveals they are a guard, we do this strat, but they didnt end up being the guard who got the ordered. They end up not being trusted, and we lynch someone that hurts us. Loss for us

B.2 - Person reveals they are a guard, we do not do the strat, the other guard reveals they are the guard, so we end up in a trust war, where likely end up still lynching one of our two guards. Loss for us.

C.1 or C.2 its a draw either way since it does not end up impacting anything..

So in my mind, it only benefits us to go with barkeep's plan here. I can't see any downside from it that wouldn't already be there in the case of multiple guards and a reveal.

I would actually categorize C.1 and C.2 differently:

C.1 we do this strategy. Someone tries to do a fake reveal and we find out that they're a lying liar who lies. Win for us.

C.2 we don't do this strategy and it's a draw.

Barkeep49 · 06-19-2006, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119

4 non voters(granted, bullet tried) should be looked at before bek to me. I think tangle and swaggs have done less then bek

I would be amenable to Swaggs. Tangle I feel some sympathy for due to time zone issues and will cut a little D1 slack.

Alan T · 06-19-2006, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I would actually categorize C.1 and C.2 differently:

C.1 we do this strategy. Someone tries to do a fake reveal and we find out that they're a lying liar who lies. Win for us.

C.2 we don't do this strategy and it's a draw.

You're right.

saldana · 06-19-2006, 07:11 PM

anyone have a way of getting a hold of tanglewood....he always misses the deadline on the first day...he never knows what time it is here, and then we always hold it against him, so if we start trying with 3 hours to go, maybe we can actually get him here before the deadline is past.

Barkeep49 · 06-19-2006, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Right now I think everyone has just made way, way, waaaay too much out of the whole possibility of two EGs. Hoops couldn't come out and say that there would only be one because it would go against the nature of how he did roles, however, it seems unlikely there would be two because of the likelyhood it would unbalance the game later and the interaction with the pharaoh order. We shouldn't be making dollars out of pennies, here.

I agree 100% with this post. KISS is an excellent way to look at WW and has guided me well.

path12 · 06-19-2006, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Right now I think everyone has just made way, way, waaaay too much out of the whole possibility of two EGs. Hoops couldn't come out and say that there would only be one because it would go against the nature of how he did roles, however, it seems unlikely there would be two because of the likelyhood it would unbalance the game later and the interaction with the pharaoh order. We shouldn't be making dollars out of pennies, here.

I agree with this, and since it seems to me that Anxiety has been pushing this idea the most:

Vote Anxiety

It's really the only thing I have to go on right now. I don't think quiet posters on day 1 are as bad as if it continues into days 2 or 3. There's so much that is unknown at this point that speculation just for the point of posting can create as many red herrings as helpful leads.

Bek · 06-19-2006, 07:38 PM

sry that i have been on and off today...the toilet and i are making good friends...i do have some ideas...i dont see a need to reveal roles this early in the game...we should be voting for those that havent been logged in today...

Unvote St Cronin

Vote bullet

Blade6119 · 06-19-2006, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bek

sry that i have been on and off today...the toilet and i are making good friends...i do have some ideas...i dont see a need to reveal roles this early in the game...we should be voting for those that havent been logged in today...

Unvote St Cronin

Vote bullet

Ive been supporting you until this one. Bullet was around and voted, just incorrectly. Really, its swaggs and tanglewood with no votes yet, bullet just needs to re-post his vote.

Alan T · 06-19-2006, 07:40 PM

So interestingly enough, Bek moving his vote now makes him leader for the lynch.

Bek - 4
St. Cronin - 3
Anxiety - 3
Bullet - 2
Lots of others - 1

hoopsguy · 06-19-2006, 07:42 PM

OK, I show one difference from Alan T's votes post above - Cronin voting for Schmidty. Here is what I have listed as of Post #336:

Cronin - Anxiety (178), Schmidty (200), Chubby (227)
Schmidty - Cronin (195)
Bulletsponge - Tyrith (196), Bek (336)
Tyrith - Kingfc (276)
Vince - Coffee (220)
Dubb - Saldana (248)
Tanglewood - Lathum (256)
Bek - SnDvls (266), Vince (285), Qwikshot (316), Barkeep (318)
Barkeep - Passacaglia (303)
Saldana - Dubb (312)
Anxiety - Alan T (275), Blade (315), Path (335)

Bad vote - bulletsponge (216)

I'm hoping that Bullet comes back to update his vote (include both VOTE and the NAME in bold) before the deadline.

Barkeep49 · 06-19-2006, 07:50 PM

I'd be up for a shift to Swaggs, BTW. Still plenty of time before lynch.

Oh kind moderator could we have one of your (in)famous vote counts?

Blade6119 · 06-19-2006, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I'd be up for a shift to Swaggs, BTW. Still plenty of time before lynch.

Oh kind moderator could we have one of your (in)famous vote counts?

Id swap to swaggs as well, but on your second point isnt the post above yours a vote count from hoops

Hoops, can you include no-votes in your list in the future by chance?

path12 · 06-19-2006, 07:54 PM

If Blade switches to Swaggs I'd be willling to also, since at that point the Anxiety vote is wasted. But I leave in about 6 minutes so it'll have to be soon.

Barkeep49 · 06-19-2006, 07:55 PM

Ok. So I can't read. I thought it was someone other than hoops doing the vote count. My bad.

Blade6119 · 06-19-2006, 07:55 PM

Fair enough

UNVOTE ANXIETY
VOTE SWAGGS

Barkeep49 · 06-19-2006, 07:55 PM

To get the ball rolling then

Unvote Bek
Vote Swaggs

Barkeep49 · 06-19-2006, 07:56 PM

Damn you blade. I was supposed to get the change of votes in their first

You weren't even in the thread according ot the thing when I submitted

saldana · 06-19-2006, 07:56 PM

just to weigh in on the elite guard conversation, since i realize i have been in and out of the thread twice without actually contributing...i think it is highly unlikely that there are 2 or more EG's...that would unbalance the game significantly if you consider the fact that there are other ways of being protected at night (favored by the gods, scarab of protection, protected by the avatar) it just seems to me that given all those ways of protecting players, and that there is only a 50% chance of a kill on an unprotected player, that it would tilt the scales to far to us if we had more than 1 guard

Blade6119 · 06-19-2006, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Damn you blade. I was supposed to get the change of votes in their first

You weren't even in the thread according ot the thing when I submitted

My evil plan worked then, the plan to undermine barkeep at every corner

hoopsguy · 06-19-2006, 07:59 PM

To update the voting, I show only Swaggs and Tanglewood on the "Not Voted" list at the moment. I'll have all future vote updates tonight include that info.

Barkeep49 · 06-19-2006, 07:59 PM

Building off the reasons saldana just mentioned I think it more likely for their to be no EGs than 2.

06-19-2006, 06:32 PM	#309
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	As a matter of fact, the more I think about this, the more it just seems like a bad idea, altogether. Suppose there are two EGs, and the pharoah issues an order. One follows the order. Now, if the other reveals, honestly, then the pharoah would say, "nope" and we'd end up lynching an EG. The strategy would backfire and help the necros. -Anxiety __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

06-19-2006, 06:51 PM	#315
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	UNVOTE ST.CRONIN VOTE ANXIETY __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

06-19-2006, 06:55 PM	#316
Qwikshot Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ...down the gravity well	I don't have any particular reason for anything, but I'll vote the new guy {b]Vote Bek[/b] 1st day voting stinks __________________ "General Woundwort's body was never found. It could be that he still lives his fierce life somewhere else, but from that day on, mother rabbits would tell their kittens that if they did not do as they were told, the General would get them. Such was Woundwort's monument, and perhaps it would not have displeased him." Watership Down, Richard Adams

06-19-2006, 06:55 PM	#317
Qwikshot Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ...down the gravity well	er Vote Bek stupid typo __________________ "General Woundwort's body was never found. It could be that he still lives his fierce life somewhere else, but from that day on, mother rabbits would tell their kittens that if they did not do as they were told, the General would get them. Such was Woundwort's monument, and perhaps it would not have displeased him." Watership Down, Richard Adams

06-19-2006, 07:02 PM	#322
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	Chubby 7 dubb93 6 Lathum 5 kingfc22 5 Tyrith 4 Bek 3 He hasnt been all that quiet, comparitively. I just think you guys are making a move off hypocritic views of posting quantity __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

06-19-2006, 06:06 PM	#301
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	I see bek here so it should help some now with everyone checking in.

06-19-2006, 06:08 PM	#302
Bek High School JV Join Date: Aug 2005	Im finally here after a long day...after working in the morning, i am just getting on know...i hope i will be able to catch up on everything that went on...good luck to all of us

06-19-2006, 06:14 PM	#303
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Okay, Bek's here, so like I said, I'll change my vote. UNVOTE BEK VOTE BARKEEP49 Barkeep's been pushing for a lot of reveals that I disagree with.

06-19-2006, 06:17 PM	#304
Bek High School JV Join Date: Aug 2005	Vote St Cronin

06-19-2006, 06:20 PM	#305
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Pass by a lot of votes you mean 1? I've pushed for one reveal, that of the Ruling Class. Furthermore reveals are good. It was the reveals which won us the last game.

06-19-2006, 06:21 PM	#306
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Or rather, reveals are often good. In this game I think they're of less value then others, especially with the neutrals. But reveals help to form circles of trust. And that is the time proven effective strategy for villagers winning the game.

06-19-2006, 06:21 PM	#307
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	So bek any thoughts at all?

06-19-2006, 06:38 PM	#311
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	hmmm...here and gone...I'm sticking with my vote

06-19-2006, 06:45 PM	#313
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Actually I'm not pushing for the EG to reveal at all. Only trying to ensure we don't get caught in a fake reveal. Anxiety: With all the bad guys have going against them I don't think it's likely that there are two egs out there. Why SHOULD we suppose there are two egs? In your scenrario, sure it's not great. But is it a likely case?

06-19-2006, 06:58 PM	#318
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Well he posted a vote and then disappeared. Basically the same, I feel, as a nonvote. Vote Bek

06-19-2006, 06:58 PM	#319
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	So with my vote I think we've started to see some consolidation. hint hint, nudge nudge.

06-19-2006, 06:59 PM	#320
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	qwik, the deadline is 10pm in eastern TZ, to answer your question

06-19-2006, 07:01 PM	#321
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Anxiety, lets follow out your logic a little further here and look at all possible scenerios.. A - 1 Guard B - 2 Guards C - 0 Guards Now A.1 - 1 guard and we do this strat. When they reveal themselves later on, we can verify they are telling the truth. Win for us A.2 - If we do not do this strat, and they reveal later on, we have no way to be sure if they are still telling the truth or not... We will say this is a Draw B.1 - Person reveals they are a guard, we do this strat, but they didnt end up being the guard who got the ordered. They end up not being trusted, and we lynch someone that hurts us. Loss for us B.2 - Person reveals they are a guard, we do not do the strat, the other guard reveals they are the guard, so we end up in a trust war, where likely end up still lynching one of our two guards. Loss for us. C.1 or C.2 its a draw either way since it does not end up impacting anything.. So in my mind, it only benefits us to go with barkeep's plan here. I can't see any downside from it that wouldn't already be there in the case of multiple guards and a reveal.

06-19-2006, 07:03 PM	#323
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	This is what I see as the current vote totals. Someone correct me if I am wrong. St. cronin (4) - Anxiety (178), Schmidty (200), Chubby (227), Bek (304) Bulletsponge (1) - Tyrith (196) tyrith (1) - Kingfc (276) Vince (1) - Coffee Warlord (220) Dubb93 (1) - Saldana (248) Tanglewood (1) - Lathum (256) Bek (4) - Sndvls (266), Vince (285), Qwikshot (317), Barkeep (318) Anxiety (2) - Alan T (275), Blade (315) Barkeep (1) - Passacaglia (303) Saldana (1) - dubb93 (312)

06-19-2006, 07:04 PM	#324
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	dola, dont take hypocritic the wrong way...just saying others are quiet too, no offense to anyone! __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

06-19-2006, 07:06 PM	#325
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	My tally has it the same except that I'm counting bullet's vote for me at the moment. No votes are path, swaggs, and tangle.

06-19-2006, 07:07 PM	#326
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Blade: That includes pregame activity. Bek has had NO game related activity besides the vote. Everyone else I see has at least posted a vote and a sentence or two.

06-19-2006, 07:08 PM	#328
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Right now I think everyone has just made way, way, waaaay too much out of the whole possibility of two EGs. Hoops couldn't come out and say that there would only be one because it would go against the nature of how he did roles, however, it seems unlikely there would be two because of the likelyhood it would unbalance the game later and the interaction with the pharaoh order. We shouldn't be making dollars out of pennies, here.

06-19-2006, 07:11 PM	#333
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	anyone have a way of getting a hold of tanglewood....he always misses the deadline on the first day...he never knows what time it is here, and then we always hold it against him, so if we start trying with 3 hours to go, maybe we can actually get him here before the deadline is past.

06-19-2006, 07:38 PM	#336
Bek High School JV Join Date: Aug 2005	sry that i have been on and off today...the toilet and i are making good friends...i do have some ideas...i dont see a need to reveal roles this early in the game...we should be voting for those that havent been logged in today... Unvote St Cronin Vote bullet

06-19-2006, 07:40 PM	#338
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	So interestingly enough, Bek moving his vote now makes him leader for the lynch. Bek - 4 St. Cronin - 3 Anxiety - 3 Bullet - 2 Lots of others - 1

06-19-2006, 07:42 PM	#339
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	OK, I show one difference from Alan T's votes post above - Cronin voting for Schmidty. Here is what I have listed as of Post #336: Cronin - Anxiety (178), Schmidty (200), Chubby (227) Schmidty - Cronin (195) Bulletsponge - Tyrith (196), Bek (336) Tyrith - Kingfc (276) Vince - Coffee (220) Dubb - Saldana (248) Tanglewood - Lathum (256) Bek - SnDvls (266), Vince (285), Qwikshot (316), Barkeep (318) Barkeep - Passacaglia (303) Saldana - Dubb (312) Anxiety - Alan T (275), Blade (315), Path (335) Bad vote - bulletsponge (216) I'm hoping that Bullet comes back to update his vote (include both VOTE and the NAME in bold) before the deadline.

06-19-2006, 07:50 PM	#340
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I'd be up for a shift to Swaggs, BTW. Still plenty of time before lynch. Oh kind moderator could we have one of your (in)famous vote counts?

06-19-2006, 07:54 PM	#342
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	If Blade switches to Swaggs I'd be willling to also, since at that point the Anxiety vote is wasted. But I leave in about 6 minutes so it'll have to be soon. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

06-19-2006, 07:55 PM	#343
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Ok. So I can't read. I thought it was someone other than hoops doing the vote count. My bad.

06-19-2006, 07:55 PM	#344
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	Fair enough UNVOTE ANXIETY VOTE SWAGGS __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

06-19-2006, 07:55 PM	#345
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	To get the ball rolling then Unvote Bek Vote Swaggs

06-19-2006, 07:56 PM	#346
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Damn you blade. I was supposed to get the change of votes in their first You weren't even in the thread according ot the thing when I submitted

06-19-2006, 07:56 PM	#347
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	just to weigh in on the elite guard conversation, since i realize i have been in and out of the thread twice without actually contributing...i think it is highly unlikely that there are 2 or more EG's...that would unbalance the game significantly if you consider the fact that there are other ways of being protected at night (favored by the gods, scarab of protection, protected by the avatar) it just seems to me that given all those ways of protecting players, and that there is only a 50% chance of a kill on an unprotected player, that it would tilt the scales to far to us if we had more than 1 guard

06-19-2006, 07:59 PM	#349
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	To update the voting, I show only Swaggs and Tanglewood on the "Not Voted" list at the moment. I'll have all future vote updates tonight include that info.