Werewolf XIX: Return to the Forest - Night(4)

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

Nope... the only thing I can think of is that once you post in a thread, the envelope next to it on the main "Gen Discussion" page has a dot.

I do see/know that...hmm just never noticed the green dot. If you move the mouse over it it says you are online...duh. I guess green means online and blue means not online.

[RPI-Fan]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

I do see/know that...hmm just never noticed the green dot. If you move the mouse over it it says you are online...duh. I guess green means online and blue means not online.

Which "skin" do you use? (i.e. Sideline Green, Day at the Office, etc.)

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

Which "skin" do you use? (i.e. Sideline Green, Day at the Office, etc.)

You are such a tease! Everytime I see you post in the thread I'm hoping it's the lynch.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

Which "skin" do you use? (i.e. Sideline Green, Day at the Office, etc.)

I don't know...it's a grey/blue

[RPI-Fan]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

You are such a tease! Everytime I see you post in the thread I'm hoping it's the lynch.

Sorry, stuff keeps coming in preventing me from getting it all sorted out!

[RPI-Fan]

sndvls VOTE ARDENT
saldana VOTE DUBB
dacman VOTE DUBB
gram VOTE SALDANA
ardent VOTE SNDVLS
dubb VOTE SALDANA
raiders VOTE PENNY
blade VOTE SALDANA
mcsweeny VOTE SALDANA
wvufan VOTE SALDANA
blade UNVOTE SALDANA
blade VOTE MCSWEENY
sndvls UNVOTE ARDENT
ardent UNVOTE SNDVLS
sndvls VOTE RAIDERS
ardent VOTE RAIDERS
barkeep VOTE RAIDERS
penny VOTE RAIDERS
taztfw VOTE RAIDERS
schmidty VOTE SALDANA
dacman UNVOTE DUBB
dacman VOTE SALDANA
saldana UNVOTE DUBB
saldana VOTE RAIDERS
dubb UNVOTE SALDANA
dubb VOTE DACMAN
ardent UNVOTE RAIDERS
ardent VOTE BARKEEP
barkeep UNVOTE RAIDERS
barkeep VOTE SALDANA
sndvls UNVOTE RAIDERS
sndvls VOTE SALDANA


dacman (1): dubb
saldana (7): gram, mcsweeny, wvufan, schmidty, dacman, saldana, sndvls
penny (1): raiders
mcsweeny (1): blade
raiders (3): penny, taztfw, saldana
barkeep (1): ardent

At the end of the day, after much discussion, wavering, and clammering, you all gather around saldana. He pleads his innocence, but as he reaches the gallows he morphs into a werewolf before he is finally hung!

saldana was a werewolf!


Playerlist

1) st.cronin: Lynched, Day(1), Regular Villager
2) Raiders Army
3) dacman
4) pennywisesb
5) Schmidty
6) Blade6119
7) McSweeny
8) ardent enthusiast
9) SnDvls
10) Grammaticus
11) TazTFW
12) saldana: Lynched, Day(2), Werewolf
13) Barkeep49
14) kingfc22: Killed, Night(1)
15) WVUFAN
16) dubb93

It is now Night(2). Night actions are due by 10:30pm EST on Tuesday, December 20th.

[dacman]

small correction:

saldana (7): gram, mcsweeny, wvufan, schmidty, dacman, barkeep, sndvls

[SnDvls]

YES!!!!!

[SnDvls]

when do night actions stop and voting begins?

[SnDvls]

double dola-

someone needs to protect Grammaticus tonight...hint, hint

[pennywisesb]

Nice, got ourselves a werewolf!

[Raiders Army]

Very nice!

[Poli]

Yippee! Werewolf down!

And it looks like we have new user titles as well. Rock on.

[pennywisesb]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

And it looks like we have new user titles as well. Rock on.

Yeah, too bad I'm a college benchwarmer.....hopefully a few more werewolf games will change that!

[Blade6119]

Pro Prospect blade feels mighty happy he didnt switch his vote to raiders...sorry for believing you, starting the bandwagon on saldana, then almost killing it too gramat...now today where does that leave us? I was one of the bigger supporters of salana, so you can come after me...

pennny taz ardent raiders and dubb also didnt vote for saldana so id bet there is one wolf in there, and more then likely one did vote for saldana, and he was one of the 2-3 late swaps after it was clear saldana was dyng.

[Raiders Army]

I already stated why I didn't swap my vote to saldana. FWIW, I think dubb is on the level at this point since:

1. He was vocal on day 1.
2. saldana voted for him.

[Blade6119]

dola, when day three starts i still heartily intend to vote for Mcsweeney until i see a better reason on someone else

[Poli]

Grammaticus, I'd like to suggest you let us know who you looked at. That way, we have a list of "cleared" people. "Known goods" if you will.

The rest of us knowing who you've scanned helps our chances, in my opinion. Anyone else?

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Grammaticus, I'd like to suggest you let us know who you looked at. That way, we have a list of "cleared" people. "Known goods" if you will.

The rest of us knowing who you've scanned helps our chances, in my opinion. Anyone else?

agreed, but only because he's probally a gonner in then next couple of nights, unless there are two protectors.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Grammaticus, I'd like to suggest you let us know who you looked at. That way, we have a list of "cleared" people. "Known goods" if you will.

The rest of us knowing who you've scanned helps our chances, in my opinion. Anyone else?

I was under the impression he was the witness, which is a one time viewing... So now hes useless

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

I was under the impression he was the witness, which is a one time viewing... So now hes useless

that is what he said, so I guess that is true, although he could have bluffed to fool the wolves too and is the seer thus maknig the wolves think he's a worthless villager with no power.

I hope for the latter.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

that is what he said, so I guess that is true, although he could have bluffed to fool the wolves too and is the seer thus maknig the wolves think he's a worthless villager with no power.

I hope for the latter.

Ever hear of being subtle? We all are thinking the same thing, so stop reporting that fact...theres a reason i said what i did, and you should think about it before making comments like that again

[dacman]

The idea is to stay quiet until the next "day" cycle, yes?

[Schmidty]

Well, that was a great start!

[RPI-Fan]

Originally Posted by dacman

The idea is to stay quiet until the next "day" cycle, yes?

Don't know the nature of this question, but...

From a rules perspective, in my mind, it's always been A-Ok to chat it up, even during the night phase.

[Blade6119]

not at all, we can all talk now...just cant vote until the day comes around...i think its more quiet as we all wait to see who the wolves kill....i honestly dont know who they will target, and it could be pretty random...i can talk if everyone wants me to(everyone knows i can talk), but its going to come down to my accusing mcsweeney as my leading canidate and barring him being the night kill hes going to get my vote when the day starts.


I WILL SAY THIS FOR THOUGHT....would the wolves sacrifice one of their own to save the others? Gramat, or the others that pushed his death could be wolves....not as likely with the close vote, but a thought...

[Poli]

Blade, why McSweeny?

[pennywisesb]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Blade, why McSweeny?

I was wondering the same thing myself...

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Ever hear of being subtle? We all are thinking the same thing, so stop reporting that fact...theres a reason i said what i did, and you should think about it before making comments like that again

Whatever...reread your own relpy to ardent.

ever hear of putting doubt in the wolves night kill?

if we are all "thinking" the same thing why ever bring up the witness as a one time only action anyhow?

we're just giving the wolves fodder to pick one of us off and blame the other anyhow.

[Grammaticus]

Out of game - Good play Saldana

[Raiders Army]

I'm staying quiet right now. I've drunken some beers so I won't make the same mistake twice in two nights in a row.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Out of game - Good play Saldana

........

(never got to do that before )

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Blade, why McSweeny?

Originally Posted by pennywisesb

I was wondering the same thing myself...

This is not all quoted, as im just copying the edit page on all these since i dont want to requote...everything from here on out is from previous posts until i note at end:

Originally Posted by McSweeny

starting a bandwagon on the first day is a pretty wolfish move don't you think? No one is sure about who to vote for on the first day, so a wolf comes along and starts piling on a villager. The rest of us just want to stay alive so we figure "better him than me". "Sorry st. cronin, you know how it is... day 1 and all..." is how we rationalize it. I'm not falling for your little trap Dubb

so with that

VOTE DUBB93

Originally Posted by McSweeny

dola

why else would Dubb want to be the first one to cast a second vote? weird logic

Im sorry, i for one believe spreading votes around(we already had 6 different votes at the time) is what the wolves want. We only find out roles in a lynch, thought we can assume all night kills are villagers. These two posts sound wolfish to me, as hes basically asking why anyone would want to vote for someone with a vote on them already. if we dont we dont have a lynch(tiebreaker?) and the wolves get another night. We find out far more in close votes then everyone has 1...just absolutely the opposite of what i feel a villager would say. im still reading, but hes my new #1 after this

Originally Posted by McSweeny

nope, i don't buy this at all. on the first day the wolves want to lynch a villager. spreading out the vote only increases the chance of a wolf being lynched. the wolves know who the villagers are, so they have the most to gain by NOT spreading the votes out.

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Blade's right dude. What you're doing is thinking one step at a time. The wolves are thinking down the road. The votes begin to distinguish you. If we can't tell the wolves' voting patterns (which is much harder to do by spreading out the vote) then it gives them an advantage in the long run. The sacrifice of one wolf to remain anonymous is highly appealing.

Not only that, but remember they could change their votes if a wolf was being threatened.

Originally Posted by McSweeny

ok i hadn't really considered that because i always figured day 1 votes were too random to help establish any patterns.

Originally Posted by McSweeny

ok i think i missed post 101 the first time around

and i didn't even remember it was you that outed me last time around

Sorry, i dont like how he at first vehemently fought back after one person called him out(while he was supporting dubb bandwagon), but as soon as another jumped on he was all agreeable and nice....by the time dubb commented he like puddy. Seems really fishy, avoiding conflict and agreeing with whoever has support at the time in question. Not how you played last time when you were a wolf, but still very odd to me

Originally Posted by McSweeny

sorry if i've only played 3 games of werewolf. i know most of you have played far more than i have and have a better grasp of the finer points of the game than i do.

on day 1 i thought dubb made an weird play. you called me out on it and did a poor job explaining why dubb had NOT made a weird play. Raiders Army did a far better job explaining it, and then dubb pointed out that he had explained himself as well in an earlier post. If that progression of logic seems suspicious to you, i don't really know what else to say.

This is your 5th game(checked your post history) dating as far back as game 2, which is far before i got in(think i entered around 7-8). Either way i just think of you as a more experienced player who should know better. if you claim not to, i cant argue that fact...but i cant ignore my thoughts on the matter either. Your not new after two games, left alone 4...arguing ignorance to the ways of the game is not a sound strategy if you ask me, but hey...ill be dead soon enough as usual and ill be out of your hair

Originally Posted by dubb93

And Blade, I'm with you on McSweeney too. I think someone needs to take a good look at him. His play has been the strangest I've ever seen in a werewolf game other than RPI 2 games ago. He pleads newbie, when I know I've played in alot of games with him.

DONE WITH QUOTES So ya, that pretty much sums it up...i think hes been quick to jump on any bandwagon(dubb) off it when we resist it(raiders dubb and i) and then pleads ignorance...just seems fishy....i havent reviewed saldanas posts yet, and there may be someone better after i do that...but without that thats why i lean mcsweeney...sorry for long post...any thoguhts?

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by saldana

I know this is to be expected from me at some point, but I think we need to really look at all the talking dubb did yesterday, and specifically, what he was saying. he had several posts talking about what a wolf would do, and what a wolf wouldnt do. That can be interpreted in two ways....

1. he was trying to educate the newer players in the game

2. he was trying to hide himself by seeming to educate the newer players in the game, when in fact, he is a wolf himself.

seems to me that it would be a great strategy for a wolf to come out to all the new guys in this game as a mentor type, insuring that they would never think that he was a wolf and never vote to lynch him, and if a vote did swing towards him, he could just say "look at all the help i was giving you all game".

this theory also explains why king got whacked last night, as he is usually very good at picking up on people and very active in posting.

this is just a theory, but it makes more sense than anything else i can make of yesterday.

VOTE DUBB

Originally Posted by saldana

dola, the more i look at things, the more and more confident i become that dubb is a wolf

Originally Posted by saldana

i thought about this as well, but then i saw something i thought was equally telling...i voted for st cronin on day one for no reason other than he voted for me for no reason in the last game we played. everyone that had voted before or immediately after me picked someone else (either by choice or accident) until Dubb, he was the first one to vote for Cronin after me, which essentially started the bandwagon.

In my mind that clears dubb, and prob. sundvls too...this was before saldana had heat on himself, so he wolves wouldnt be worried about associating with him yet.

[Barkeep49]

Call me obtuse, but what are you seeing that clears SnDvls?

[RPI-Fan]

Most of the village got a good night's rest after an evening of partying from lynching the werewolf, but deep into their dreams they were once again awoken by shrieks of terror. In the morning, they all gather and realize that SnDvls has been eaten by the wolves.

Playerlist

1) st.cronin: Lynched, Day(1), Regular Villager
2) Raiders Army
3) dacman
4) pennywisesb
5) Schmidty
6) Blade6119
7) McSweeny
8) ardent enthusiast
9) SnDvls: Killed, Night(2)
10) Grammaticus
11) TazTFW
12) saldana: Lynched, Day(2), Werewolf
13) Barkeep49
14) kingfc22: Killed, Night(1)
15) WVUFAN
16) dubb93

It is now Day(3). Lynch Votes are due by 10:30pm EST on Wednesday, December 21st.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Call me obtuse, but what are you seeing that clears SnDvls?

You're obtuse. He died last night. That pretty much clears him.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

You're obtuse. He died last night. That pretty much clears him.

Oh ok. No need to name call.

[Barkeep49]

All joking aside I'm glad to see both Raiders and Grammaticus alive.

[dubb93]

Glad to see we got a wolf, even if I did take my vote off of him last night. I just thought dacman's play was way too suspecious. Today we all need to take a serious look at McSweeney and his blatant lieing and Dacman's desire to hang me up and then switch at last second and turn on his bandwagon buddy Saldana with no explanation. My guess is at that point he figured Saldana was a goner and didn't want to be allied with Saldana once the ship was sinking. I'm not going to cast a vote at this point, but I'm leaning heavily toward Dacman.

[Blade6119]

My thoughts dont quite fit with yours on dacman...he actually changed his vote after about 5 guys had just voted for raiders...the two who swapped onto saldana after it looked like he was a goner were raiders and barkeep...those are the two who could be considered swapping late if you ask me. in a second i will do vote strikes, as who voted for known villagers and who voted for known wolves and who is random so far

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

My thoughts dont quite fit with yours on dacman...he actually changed his vote after about 5 guys had just voted for raiders...the two who swapped onto saldana after it looked like he was a goner were raiders and barkeep...those are the two who could be considered swapping late if you ask me. in a second i will do vote strikes, as who voted for known villagers and who voted for known wolves and who is random so far

Maybe my thoughts on him are a bit different than yours since he has voted for me every freakin time and only took his vote off of me late this last time. Still if he was a wolf, he had to know at some time Gram would come out and claim witness. Prehaps in the morning him and Saldana discussed it and decided to attempt to railroad me, and then the other wolf came in and told dacman he better get his vote on Saldana before the witness comes clean.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

okay let's get this started.

Vote Ardent

he's laying a little too low for just a villager.

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Wow, that reeks of ardent and hes from tenn too....we sure ardent doesnt have 2 board names like some of us?

Outside of that, ardent is someone who has acted odd so far this game. Both rounds so far he has voted in spite due to a vote on him. With schmidty in game and ardent didnt vote for him its off his normal play style. Just a thought, as what villager still votes off spite after day 1?

Originally Posted by SnDvls

This is why I voted for him. Usually if he's a villager he's very active, all of the sudden he throws in a vote on day one...then nothing. He throws a vote on me...then runs off again....nothing. It's not his normal "villager" role.

just something to note with his late swap onto saldana after it was sure he was going down...and since sun is now dead

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

After a day that began suspiciously quiet, finger pointing began as the sun made the turn in the sky. By the end of the day, the group had centered around st.cronin. They carried him to the gallows, where he was hanged. The village waited, anticipating his change into a devilish werewolf. But it never occured, and it's revealed that st.cronin was merely a regular villager.

Schmidty (1): Barkeep
Barkeep (2): ardent, Schmidty
st.cronin (4): saldana, dubb, Raiders, kingfc22
Raiders Army (1): st.cronin
ardent (1): Grammaticus
dubb (3): McSweeny, dacman, WVUFAN
dacman (1): TazFTW

Non-voters: Blade, pennywisesb, SnDvls (Jeez, I change the deadlines for two of these people and can't even get a goddamn vote from them!)

It is now Night(1). Players with night actions please have them in by the deadline. The deadline for Night(1) is Monday, December 19th @ 10am.

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

sndvls VOTE ARDENT
saldana VOTE DUBB
dacman VOTE DUBB
gram VOTE SALDANA
ardent VOTE SNDVLS
dubb VOTE SALDANA
raiders VOTE PENNY
blade VOTE SALDANA
mcsweeny VOTE SALDANA
wvufan VOTE SALDANA
blade UNVOTE SALDANA
blade VOTE MCSWEENY
sndvls UNVOTE ARDENT
ardent UNVOTE SNDVLS
sndvls VOTE RAIDERS
ardent VOTE RAIDERS
barkeep VOTE RAIDERS
penny VOTE RAIDERS
taztfw VOTE RAIDERS
schmidty VOTE SALDANA
dacman UNVOTE DUBB
dacman VOTE SALDANA
saldana UNVOTE DUBB
saldana VOTE RAIDERS
dubb UNVOTE SALDANA
dubb VOTE DACMAN
ardent UNVOTE RAIDERS
ardent VOTE BARKEEP
barkeep UNVOTE RAIDERS
barkeep VOTE SALDANA
sndvls UNVOTE RAIDERS
sndvls VOTE SALDANA


dacman (1): dubb
saldana (7): gram, mcsweeny, wvufan, schmidty, dacman, barkeep, sndvls
penny (1): raiders
mcsweeny (1): blade
raiders (3): penny, taztfw, saldana
barkeep (1): ardent

At the end of the day, after much discussion, wavering, and clammering, you all gather around saldana. He pleads his innocence, but as he reaches the gallows he morphs into a werewolf before he is finally hung!

saldana was a werewolf!

My Playerlist

1) st.cronin: Lynched, Day(1), Regular Villager
2) Raiders Army Suspicious for being last unclear st cronin killer in my mind, but a lot comes down to him and barkeep since sun knew what the posse was that now becomes hugely important.
3) dacman helped kill saldana, but voted dubb day one...depends on who you trust
4) pennywisesb with sun dead, he and i are only two left from first vote missers...voted raiders on day 2 so a lot comes down to raiders
5) Schmidty WAYYYYYYYY UNDER RADAR
6) Blade6119 Me, simple villager thnx to rpi
7) McSweeny My thoughts on him are well documented
8) ardent enthusiast My thoughts are right above..has acted out of character
9) SnDvls Killed, Night(2)
10) Grammaticus seems on the up and up after saldana...i doubt he would give in another wolf so hes clear to me
11) TazTFW WAYYYY UNDER RADAR
12) saldana: Lynched, Day(2), Werewolf
13) Barkeep49 Late vote swap to saldana(last swap actually)...as suspicious as raiders due to me not knowing posse and vote swap
14) kingfc22: Killed, Night(1)
15) WVUFAN WAYYY UNDER RADAR
16) dubb93 I think hes clean due to saldana going after him so much

[Blade6119]

dola 2 up it was ardent and barkeep, not raiders and barkeep

[dubb93]

I'm also scared by the people that are listed as WAY under the radar in Blade's post. They are either a wolf trying not to draw attention, or a villager not helping us at all at the moment.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by dubb93

I'm also scared by the people that are listed as WAY under the radar in Blade's post. They are either a wolf trying not to draw attention, or a villager not helping us at all at the moment.

Or they are people who are extremely busy trying to get as much work done as they possibly can before they start Christmas vacation. In fact, I am leaving on friday for relatives in California.

This was a last minute thing (thank my wife), and I apologize. I don't want to quit, as I should have internet access there, but if you don't recieve a vote from me two days in a row, feel free to replace me.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Or they are people who are extremely busy trying to get as much work done as they possibly can before they start Christmas vacation. In fact, I am leaving on friday for relatives in California.

This was a last minute thing (thank my wife), and I apologize. I don't want to quit, as I should have internet access there, but if you don't recieve a vote from me two days in a row, feel free to replace me.

Assuming you aren't a wolf, then this would fall under the..or a villager not helping us at all at the moment...part of my last post.

[WVUFAN]

I thought I did my part when I voted to kill the wolf.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by WVUFAN

I thought I did my part when I voted to kill the wolf.

If your only contribution to this game is to vote, then im sad to say i wish you hadnt signed up...as villagers we cant afford that to be all our companions do

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Assuming you aren't a wolf, then this would fall under the..or a villager not helping us at all at the moment...part of my last post.

So vote me off then, ass.