Mafia Town - GAME OVER (Town Wins)

[dubb93]

I also hate the 2p deadline. I'm a third shifter nowadays and I generally sleep until around 3 or 4.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Yea, well, the werewolf is "neutral evil." He's bad. He's not working with the mafia, but he's working for himself and I would guess his win condition is likely to kill everyone but himself.

Some of the neutral roles will have village friendly, if not entirely straight villager, win conditions. What I'm saying is that in Town of Salem some of the neutral roles will win with the village, some will win with the baddies, and some will win just by themselves.

It's not just going to be straight win with the mafia or win with the village. All of the neutral roles in Town of Salem have a condition that must first be met and then a "win by" following that.

For instance a role that I'm very familiar with from that game is the exe. It's in basically every Town of Salem game you will play as it's a default role. The exe is one that wins on his own. He must first get the town to lynch his target and then he must get himself lynched after that in order to win. He's not working with the town or the mafia.

Many of the killing roles that are in Town of Salem, such as the serial killer (another default role in that game), intentionally work against the mafia and one of their win conditions is to eliminate all of the mafia.

So by itself neutral doesn't mean bad. It depends on the actual role. With only 8 villagers (9 max if we got lucky with random) it probably is not prudent to just cast away all the neutral roles as evil. We will quickly find ourselves outnumbered and lacking key votes when we need them.

trippy

thanks for the incite

[CrimsonFox]

can any role steal the win and win solo?

the survivor perhaps?

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

can any role steal the win and win solo?

the survivor perhaps?

Yes. The Jester could, though it would take a lot to happen for that but I have seen that happen. A lone serial killer or arsonist could.

Survivor would need many things to fall exactly right to win alone and that would take a game of rainbow to be honest.


Rainbow - a game with 2 town (jailer, veteran), 2 mafia (godfather, mafioso), 2 witches, 2 arsonists, 2 serial killers, 2 survivors, 2 amnesiacs and 1 random any. These games are INTENSE.... AND FUN!!!

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

can any role steal the win and win solo?

the survivor perhaps?

I've never really seen the survivor in Town of Salem, but a quick guess based on how I know that game works I would say the survivor would win either way as long as he's alive, but be more willing to work with the village/non killing roles, since he doesn't want to get lynched or night killed.

I would say that the werewolf would likely be a role that could steal the win and win solo since he's neutral evil and unlikely to be working with anyone.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by dubb93

I've never really seen the survivor in Town of Salem, but a quick guess based on how I know that game works I would say the survivor would win either way as long as he's alive, but be more willing to work with the village/non killing roles, since he doesn't want to get lynched or night killed.

I would say that the werewolf would likely be a role that could steal the win and win solo since he's neutral evil and unlikely to be working with anyone.

Have only seen them in Chaos All Any or Chaos Rainbow (rainbow has 2 in every game, or 3 if random turns up survivor).

[EagleFan]

Oh, now that we are part of the way into the game... we should try getting a group together in Town of Salem sometime.

[CrimsonFox]

what?

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

what?

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[CrimsonFox]

cute but we could, ya know, actually play this game first.
(if you wanna...)

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

cute but we could, ya know, actually play this game first.
(if you wanna...)

Just trying to drum up some interest.

[EagleFan]

Day 3 Deadline

Night actions due by 10 PM EST. Sending out jail notices shortly, will post when they have been sent out.

[EagleFan]

Sent the jail notice. That player may not post in thread until the next day has begun.

Night orders due at 10.

[EagleFan]

I have found out that some friends are getting together tomorrow evening. I will post a work around schedule for tomorrow.

[EagleFan]

deadline

Processing the night results.

[EagleFan]

Night 3 Results

There were no deaths tonight.

Nomination deadline for Day 4 will be 5 PM EST tomorrow as I will be out in the evening so I will extend all deadlines.

The lynch vote deadline will be Midnight tomorrow. The Night deadline will be 1 AM.

Sorry for the late change for tomorrow.

[EagleFan]

Stepping away for a few. Daughter wants me to watch/help her play Batman.

[dubb93]

We either had a block or the mafia missed the deadline.

Either way this far into the game I'm sure there is some good info out there at this point. We really need to nominate today.

[Ragone]

Just got back into town.. gonna read up on this thread.. i'm guessing someone got blocked based off a quick skim

well do some looking around tomorrow morning

[CrimsonFox]

hey raggy ! great! catch up as much as you can ! we need you!

[EagleFan]

Tonight is a full moon.

[timmae]

vote danny

Until there is some proof of life there.

My action was blocked last night. Not sure what that means for other actions. I.e. Night kills.

There will be a ww attack tonight. Not good.

[Ziiggy]

Originally Posted by timmae

vote danny

Until there is some proof of life there.

My action was blocked last night. Not sure what that means for other actions. I.e. Night kills.

There will be a ww attack tonight. Not good.

So in a goodtimmae world that would mean the mafia has an escort role (or a village blocker mistargeted) so at minimum there is the Godfather and an escort and they were either blocked last night, or didn't put in a kill order. Any other pertinent action during the night?

[EagleFan]

Nomination Votes

7 required to send to lynch vote

As of post 322:

Danny 1 - timmae (322)

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by Ziiggy

So in a goodtimmae world that would mean the mafia has an escort role (or a village blocker mistargeted) so at minimum there is the Godfather and an escort and they were either blocked last night, or didn't put in a kill order. Any other pertinent action during the night?

(This conjecture doesn't account for the random role.)

Shoveler was the Escort and was killed by the WW. A role-block of someone in timmae's probably came from a Consort. As for the mafia, they may have failed to put in an order; had that order thwarted by the Doctor or Jailor; or been unsuccessful in attempting to NK the Survivor, Serial Killer, or Executioner.

[britrock88]

nominate Danny

Would like to see him join in, too.

[Ziiggy]

Originally Posted by britrock88

(This conjecture doesn't account for the random role.)

Shoveler was the Escort and was killed by the WW. A role-block of someone in timmae's probably came from a Consort. As for the mafia, they may have failed to put in an order; had that order thwarted by the Doctor or Jailor; or been unsuccessful in attempting to NK the Survivor, Serial Killer, or Executioner.

Right, meant consort, not escort, and forgot about the immune roles. Vote Danny's my first choice too, but I wouldn't be against nominating utr lighthousekeeper. He's posted a couple times and put in a drive-by vote and that's about it.

[lighthousekeeper]

Originally Posted by timmae

My action was blocked last night. Not sure what that means for other actions. I.e. Night kills.

well here's a paranoid theory: you are the godfather, your action was blocked last night, there were no kills last night. and you're just having fun by revealing some clues in broad daylight.

[cheekimonk]

At best, he's under the radar because he's shady. At worst, we know what role we're missing.

vote danny

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Danny

I will play. I just have to be better about remembering to come here and read and participate

Hey, guys, let's not be so quick to lynch him. It's likely Danny has forgotten to check back in. He did post after the game start, but it was only to offer condolences to EF over his friend's passing.

I sent Danny a FB message to remind him. Hopefully he will check in today.

[EagleFan]

Nomination Votes

7 required to send to lynch vote

As of post 322:

Danny 3 - timmae (322), britrock88 (326), cheekimonk (329)

[timmae]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Hey, guys, let's not be so quick to lynch him. It's likely Danny has forgotten to check back in. He did post after the game start, but it was only to offer condolences to EF over his friend's passing.

I sent Danny a FB message to remind him. Hopefully he will check in today.

I am def willing to reassess based on Danny showing up.

[timmae]

I think we have 3 hours left to nomination.

[britrock88]

vote Danny

He can always appear and relieve us, too.

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by lighthousekeeper

well here's a paranoid theory: you are the godfather, your action was blocked last night, there were no kills last night. and you're just having fun by revealing some clues in broad daylight.

I don't think he would have known the identities of the folks that visited Autumn on N1 if he were the godfather, though.

[timmae]

Chief... if Danny is our only viable candidate are you unwilling to vote him?

[dubb93]

Yea I'm down to role with the theory that mafia didn't put in an order. I think I'm the one that started that train. Danny can always show up and we can vote him innocent if we need to.

Vote Danny

[Zinto]

Sure I will vote Danny. Just so we keep discussions open for the rest of the day.

Vote Danny

[EagleFan]

Nomination Votes

7 required to send to lynch vote

As of post 338:

Danny 6 - timmae (322), britrock88 (326), cheekimonk (329), britrock88 (334), dubb93 (337), Zinto (338)

[Ziiggy]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Nomination Votes

7 required to send to lynch vote

As of post 338:

Danny 6 - timmae (322), britrock88 (326), cheekimonk (329), britrock88 (334), dubb93 (337), Zinto (338)

Post 327 - is putting votes in the middle of a sentence a faux pas? If so, sorry won't do it again.

[lighthousekeeper]

Originally Posted by britrock88

I don't think he would have known the identities of the folks that visited Autumn on N1 if he were the godfather, though.

right i forgot about that.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Ziiggy

Post 327 - is putting votes in the middle of a sentence a faux pas? If so, sorry won't do it again.

Didn't see it. Generally best not to, for just such a reason.

[EagleFan]

Danny is up for lynch. We have moved into the Lynch vote stage.

Please vote guilty or innocent on Danny.

Vote deadline is midnight.

[lighthousekeeper]

^

lunch

confirmed eaglefan is werewolf

[EagleFan]

I've been discovered!

[CrimsonFox]

i don't care if danny is playing or not or maybe we can get a sub but i don't care of that right now either.
My thought is this. If he's a good role and we kill him, that's bad.
If he's a bad role that isn't sending in his orders and we kill him it doesn't matter

i can't believe danny would just not post in a game and is only sending in pm actions and not juice up the thread with dannyness.

[The Jackal]

sorry guys i'm running a fever today, cooped up in my apartment napping

[CrimsonFox]

you caught it from me :P

[The Jackal]

the internet is transmitting real viruses now? someone get me some holy water

[The Jackal]

i agree that it would be unlike danny to be submitting actions as a bad guy and being silent in the thread