NFL Week 2 - Page 7

EagleFan · 09-15-2008, 09:50 PM

That may have been beyond stupid. I guess it's first down at the 1 for the Eagles then as the whistle blew so it's like the Broncos game then.

Dr. Sak · 09-15-2008, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

I know people say "you could call holding on any play", but watching games yesterday I was amazed at how many O-Linemen are now allowed to get their arms outside the opponents body and grab his jersey on his upper arms and shove him back without being called. It was all over slow-mo replays of run up the middle after run up the middle by most teams I was watching. It was borderline absurd: apparently you have to tackle the guy to get the call (which one of the Panthers did), although of course I saw one Chicago O-lineman do the same thing with no call on a big play. But really, it's like they just go "hey wait, it's been 15 plays since I called a hold, FLAG!".

That is something I hear each week. "They are grabbing outside the body". For it to be holding the defensive player has to make an attempt to get to the ball. If he is just getting driven backwards or makes no effort to get off the block, holding will never be called.

Jas_lov · 09-15-2008, 09:51 PM

Still Philly's ball so it's not a complete disaster. Very stupid though.

hoopsguy · 09-15-2008, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

lol.

this is an awesome game.

I am pulling for the Eagles but I really hope this gets overturned.

McNabb better grab his facemask and tell him don't ever fucking do that again.

Hmm, I seem to recall your boy Plaxico doing that back in his early days with Steelers ...

sabotai · 09-15-2008, 09:51 PM

What an idiot...

That said, the Dallas players blew a chance by not jumping on it.

tucker rocky · 09-15-2008, 09:51 PM

How is it Eagle's ball? Confusing.

EagleFan · 09-15-2008, 09:51 PM

I like the cocky attitude, but not the dumb move.

Galaxy · 09-15-2008, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

That may have been beyond stupid. I guess it's first down at the 1 for the Eagles then as the whistle blew so it's like the Broncos game then.

This may one of the stupidest bonehead moves in NFL History.

Jas_lov · 09-15-2008, 09:52 PM

At least this is an entertaining game. After last night's clunker, we deserve it.

EagleFan · 09-15-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tucker rocky

How is it Eagle's ball? Confusing.

Whistle blew, see Broncos/Chargers...

Dr. Sak · 09-15-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tucker rocky

How is it Eagle's ball? Confusing.

See the game last night between the Chargers/Broncos where Hoculli blew the whistle.

cartman · 09-15-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

What an idiot...

That said, the Dallas players blew a chance by not jumping on it.

Nope, it still would have been the Eagles ball.

sabotai · 09-15-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tucker rocky

How is it Eagle's ball? Confusing.

Because no one recovered it and the play was blown dead. Since the Eagles were the last to have possession, they get it back. If a Dallas player had jumped on it right away, they would have gotten it.

Galaxy · 09-15-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Whistle blew, see Broncos/Chargers...

Would you put this in the same class? The Jackson play was very close call. But did the whistle blow right away, or did the ref wait a few seconds before blowing it while the ball was out?

tucker rocky · 09-15-2008, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tucker rocky

How is it Eagle's ball? Confusing.

Doesn't matter, scored anyway.

This isn't the Soul and Renagades of the Arena League is it?
48 points and still in the first half.

Lathum · 09-15-2008, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Hmm, I seem to recall your boy Plaxico doing that back in his early days with Steelers ...

not exactly true.

Plax caught a ball diving and thought he was automatcaly down and got up and threw it away.

cartman · 09-15-2008, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

Because no one recovered it and the play was blown dead. Since the Eagles were the last to have possession, they get it back. If a Dallas player had jumped on it right away, they would have gotten it.

Nope, because now I remember, when a touchdown is signalled, that is the same as blowing the play dead. So the spot rule goes into effect.

tucker rocky · 09-15-2008, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

Because no one recovered it and the play was blown dead. Since the Eagles were the last to have possession, they get it back. If a Dallas player had jumped on it right away, they would have gotten it.

Ok thanks.

EagleFan · 09-15-2008, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

This may one of the stupidest bonehead moves in NFL History.

There are a lot of moves tha can take that title...

Leon Lett times two anyone?

Plaxico Burress with his catch in the open field and then spiking the ball before being down also ties in.

The Vikings defender who picked up the fumble and ran it into the wrong end zone gives it a run for it's money.

Dr. Sak · 09-15-2008, 09:55 PM

BREAK OWENS' FUCKIN KNEES!

sabotai · 09-15-2008, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Nope, it still would have been the Eagles ball.

They changed the rules this year for fumbles on reviews (which is one of the reasons the call in yesterday's Denver-San Diego game was so controversial). On plays where there's a fumble and the play is blown dead, if a player on the defense recovers it right away, they get the ball even though the play was whistled dead.

The change didn't cover QBs with the open palm, which is why Cutler's fumble couldn't have been given to San Diego.

EDIT: Or maybe not. Maybe they didn't think of this when they changed the review rules because most of what I'm finding is saying they changed the review rules for "down-by-contact", and even if the whistle blew, if its obvious the defense would come up with the ball, the ball could be awarded to them. That change might not cover the "bonehead-drops-ball-before-TD" situation.

Lathum · 09-15-2008, 09:59 PM

what is this "punt" thing they speak of?

Draft Dodger · 09-15-2008, 10:07 PM

I'm at work - what did Jackson do?

Dr. Sak · 09-15-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

I'm at work - what did Jackson do?

Caught a long pass...before crossing the EZ dropped the ball in celebration.

Dr. Sak · 09-15-2008, 10:08 PM

That's the old McNabb we know!!

EagleFan · 09-15-2008, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

That's the old McNabb we know!!

+1

EagleFan · 09-15-2008, 10:14 PM

I don't like that they have settled for 3 field goals. That could come back to bite them.

Hey, just saw the Mets lost tonight. Hopefully this will become an overall great night.

cartman · 09-15-2008, 10:17 PM

What a half of football!

Dr. Sak · 09-15-2008, 10:17 PM

Shit...bad to give up points like that at the end of the half.

tucker rocky · 09-15-2008, 10:19 PM

Will the 2nd half be just as exciting?

EagleFan · 09-15-2008, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Shit...bad to give up points like that at the end of the half.

If Dawkins had tried to tackle Whittne instead of trying to strip the ball out he may have been tackled about 5 yards earlier.

On another note, what is Berman talking about for the Broncos game? "Was it a fumble? Was it an interception?" The only thing I could have told you with complete confidence is that it was not an interception.

Dr. Sak · 09-15-2008, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

On another note, what is Berman talking about for the Broncos game? "Was it a fumble? Was it an interception?" The only thing I could have told you with complete confidence is that it was not an interception.

EagleFan · 09-15-2008, 10:23 PM

lol, forgot about that one

EagleFan · 09-15-2008, 10:26 PM

On another note, what is the big freaking deal about the Broncos going for two and the win yesterday? With the way that game was going it would have most likely come down to who-ever wins the coin flip so why not let your team decide it then and there.

cartman · 09-15-2008, 10:26 PM

This is one of those games where the Defensive Coordinators throw out their carefully crafted games plans at halftime and say "Whatever, just go out there and tackle guys in the 2nd half. I don't have a clue on how to stop the other team."

Eaglesfan27 · 09-15-2008, 10:26 PM

I'm behind catching up on the DVR, but as I watch early in the 2nd, this has been a wild game.

EagleFan · 09-15-2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I'm behind catching up on the DVR, but as I watch early in the 2nd, this has been a wild game.

You have no idea...

Lathum · 09-15-2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Hey, just saw the Mets lost tonight. Hopefully this will become an overall great night.

only if a bus hits you

cuervo72 · 09-15-2008, 10:28 PM

I'm out of breath after that first half.

(and a Voo sighting? RAAAAAAAR!)

EagleFan · 09-15-2008, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

only if a bus hits you

Hey now, go play with your half a cup in traffic....

Dr. Sak · 09-15-2008, 10:30 PM

Don't worry...the Mets will win the Wild Card this time

Eaglesfan27 · 09-15-2008, 10:32 PM

DeSean Jackson!!! (I know I'm a few minutes behind still)

Edit: What a stupid rookie mistake!

EagleFan · 09-15-2008, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

DeSean Jackson!!! (I know I'm a few minutes behind still)

You have no idea...

Lathum · 09-15-2008, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

DeSean Jackson!!! (I know I'm a few minutes behind still)

i was waiting for you to get there

Lathum · 09-15-2008, 10:35 PM

Lathum · 09-15-2008, 10:35 PM

wait.

Lathum · 09-15-2008, 10:35 PM

wait..

Lathum · 09-15-2008, 10:35 PM

here it comes...

MJ4H · 09-15-2008, 10:37 PM

JeeberD · 09-15-2008, 10:37 PM

Fuckin' defense needs to step up and do something. And that includes learning how to take down McNabb. You would think after all these years of his breaking tackles they would have learned by now...

09-15-2008, 10:07 PM	#323
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	I'm at work - what did Jackson do? __________________ Mile High Hockey

09-15-2008, 10:17 PM	#328
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	What a half of football! __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

09-15-2008, 10:26 PM	#335
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	This is one of those games where the Defensive Coordinators throw out their carefully crafted games plans at halftime and say "Whatever, just go out there and tackle guys in the 2nd half. I don't have a clue on how to stop the other team." __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint Last edited by cartman : 09-15-2008 at 10:26 PM.

09-15-2008, 10:26 PM	#336
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I'm behind catching up on the DVR, but as I watch early in the 2nd, this has been a wild game. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

09-15-2008, 10:28 PM	#339
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	I'm out of breath after that first half. (and a Voo sighting? RAAAAAAAR!) __________________ null

09-15-2008, 09:50 PM	#301
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	That may have been beyond stupid. I guess it's first down at the 1 for the Eagles then as the whistle blew so it's like the Broncos game then.

09-15-2008, 09:51 PM	#303
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Still Philly's ball so it's not a complete disaster. Very stupid though.

09-15-2008, 09:51 PM	#305
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	What an idiot... That said, the Dallas players blew a chance by not jumping on it.

09-15-2008, 09:51 PM	#306
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	How is it Eagle's ball? Confusing.

09-15-2008, 09:51 PM	#307
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I like the cocky attitude, but not the dumb move.

09-15-2008, 09:52 PM	#309
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	At least this is an entertaining game. After last night's clunker, we deserve it.

09-15-2008, 09:55 PM	#320
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	BREAK OWENS' FUCKIN KNEES!

09-15-2008, 09:59 PM	#322
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	what is this "punt" thing they speak of?

09-15-2008, 10:08 PM	#325
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	That's the old McNabb we know!!

09-15-2008, 10:14 PM	#327
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I don't like that they have settled for 3 field goals. That could come back to bite them. Hey, just saw the Mets lost tonight. Hopefully this will become an overall great night.

09-15-2008, 10:17 PM	#329
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Shit...bad to give up points like that at the end of the half.

09-15-2008, 10:19 PM	#330
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Will the 2nd half be just as exciting?

09-15-2008, 10:23 PM	#333
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	lol, forgot about that one

09-15-2008, 10:26 PM	#334
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	On another note, what is the big freaking deal about the Broncos going for two and the win yesterday? With the way that game was going it would have most likely come down to who-ever wins the coin flip so why not let your team decide it then and there.

09-15-2008, 10:30 PM	#341
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Don't worry...the Mets will win the Wild Card this time

09-15-2008, 10:32 PM	#342
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	DeSean Jackson!!! (I know I'm a few minutes behind still) Edit: What a stupid rookie mistake! __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen. Last edited by Eaglesfan27 : 09-15-2008 at 10:34 PM.

09-15-2008, 10:35 PM	#345
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	wait

09-15-2008, 10:35 PM	#346
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	wait.

09-15-2008, 10:35 PM	#347
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	wait..

09-15-2008, 10:35 PM	#348
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	here it comes...

09-15-2008, 10:37 PM	#349
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	fail

09-15-2008, 10:37 PM	#350
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Fuckin' defense needs to step up and do something. And that includes learning how to take down McNabb. You would think after all these years of his breaking tackles they would have learned by now... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

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