08-07-2007, 04:58 PM | #301 |
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Votes as of Post #300:
Barkeep - JE (152), Pass (283), Purdue (291) Hoops - Barkeep (74), Lathum (75) NTN - KWhit (212), Path (278) Purdue - Cronin (160) Cronin - Torgo (162) Not voted - Celeval, MikeVic, Hoops, NTN, Gonzo |
08-07-2007, 05:00 PM | #302 |
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I want to keep hoopsguy on, since he seems to be doing a lot of the work and helping so far. I'll go with the majority right now and
VOTE BARKEEP so that hoops has a greater chance to survive today. |
08-07-2007, 05:07 PM | #303 |
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I'm going to move my vote, which is out of character for me (normally I never move my vote on day 1 except as self preservation). But I feel pretty strongly that we'll benefit from having Barkeep and hoopsguy both around. So:
unvote Will Purdue Vote ntndeacon |
08-07-2007, 05:19 PM | #304 |
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If we have a tie between NTN and Barkeep then I believe that Barkeep got the earlier vote - don't think there were any unvotes prior to the first listed votes.
Barkeep - JE (152), Pass (283), Purdue (291), MikeVic (302) NTN - KWhit (212), Path (278), Cronin (162) Hoops - Barkeep (74), Lathum (75) Cronin - Torgo (162) Not voted - Celeval, Hoops, NTN, Gonzo |
08-07-2007, 05:23 PM | #305 |
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I have very little interest in posting the vote that buries Barkeep today. I think he is playing a little frustrated at the moment, but I don't think he comes after me with the gusto he did yesterday as a wolf. It just doesn't seem like a value play for their faction to me.
NTN - I have him with a bunch of other people in the middle of my super-solid Day 1 trust list. A spot that he usually occupies in just about every game we play together based on lack of strong impressions. As of right now I'll vote for him instead of BK. And I'll need to put that vote out in about 15-20 minutes as I don't know if I'll be around for the deadline. |
08-07-2007, 05:27 PM | #306 |
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You make a good point hoops, and I was voting for Barkeep to make sure you don't go. I don't think either you, Barkeep, or NTN are wolves at this point. I have early suspicions about a couple others, but nothing concrete yet.
I might do an unvote and vote for someone else before the current hour is up. |
08-07-2007, 05:30 PM | #307 |
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What question? I thought I had quoted you earlier and asked for you to restate any questions you wanted me to answer. Hoops asked a question which I dutifully answered.
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08-07-2007, 05:32 PM | #308 |
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Mike, what have you seen in NTN's play so far that makes you think he is not a wolf, other than just the statistical likelihood that more players are villagers than wolves?
I've obviously put more thought into Barkeep's position/play than just about anyone else in the game, given his early vote on me. If there is something specific about NTN's play that says villager then I'll look hard at voting for another candidate. |
08-07-2007, 05:33 PM | #309 |
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I'm fine with NTN being voted off since he's so dangerous UTR. I'm going to be around at lynch but will move my vote that direction now, though obviously it is in my self defense as well.
Unvote hoopsguy Vote NTN |
08-07-2007, 05:34 PM | #310 |
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UNVOTE HOOPSGUY
VOTE NTNDEACON lets keep it close. Obviously NTN will vote for barkeep and vice versa |
08-07-2007, 05:35 PM | #311 |
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Well, I'd say hoops is off the hook.
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08-07-2007, 05:36 PM | #312 |
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hmmm, interesting.
looks like me and Barkeep are now tied together |
08-07-2007, 05:37 PM | #313 |
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Dueling bandwagons emerging! First Barkeep, now NTN.
Votes as of Post #310: NTN - KWhit (212), Path (278), Cronin (303), Barkeep (309), Lathum (310) Barkeep - JE (152), Pass (283), Purdue (291), MikeVic (302) Cronin - Torgo (162) Not voted - Celeval, Hoops, NTN, Gonzo |
08-07-2007, 05:38 PM | #314 |
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If and when ntn shows up, he'll almost certainly vote for BK, which means that BK is essentially in the lead.
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08-07-2007, 05:39 PM | #315 |
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OK, I'm now in a position where I can post freely in terms of today's vote. With a 5-4 race right now and heading out the door, I'm pretty much compelled to vote for one of these guys or it is a throwaway.
Guys that have personally made me a little nervous: KWhit, Pass, MikeVic. However, I'm not going to be around to lead a largely aimless Day 1 charge at any of these guys so I'll vote on one of the leaders. I'm not expecting deadline voting challenges going forward ... VOTE NTNDEACON |
08-07-2007, 05:40 PM | #316 | |
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I may be wrong, but I believe NTN was first to suggest using 4 step-it-ups at a time. Which we haev been running with since then, and makes so much sense. Why would a wolf give such a key piece of strategy? |
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08-07-2007, 05:42 PM | #317 |
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Is it usually a smart move to mention who you think could be a wolf, and why? Even if it's a wild stab out there?
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08-07-2007, 05:44 PM | #318 |
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Also, I hope that
DaddyTorgo, Celeval, Path, PurdueBrad all put in their step-it-ups! |
08-07-2007, 05:45 PM | #319 |
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Jack Parkman is out until much later tonight.
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08-07-2007, 05:45 PM | #320 |
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08-07-2007, 05:46 PM | #322 |
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08-07-2007, 05:46 PM | #323 |
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dola- I think DT needs to be looked at closer considering his throw away vote.
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08-07-2007, 05:48 PM | #324 | |
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08-07-2007, 05:50 PM | #325 |
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08-07-2007, 05:58 PM | #326 | |
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I replied to that post, and asked a question. You posted later in the thread, but didn't answer the question. Perhaps you missed it? I gave you a while to answer it, before voting for you. |
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08-07-2007, 06:01 PM | #327 |
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Ok, well, the first name that comes to mind is KWhit. He first voted for NTN, who I believe isn't a wolf, with the convenience added that he just didn't want to choose sides in the Barkeep vs hoops battle. But that's the only cause for suspicion I have right now.
The second name that comes to mind is path12. It could just be his character's personality, but he volunteered at least twice to step-it-up. But then he said we should put another high-class player to test out the talent/movie role theory. But someone also mentioned that a wolf could use "I only have a couple step-it-ups left" as a reason why they're hanging around. He voted for hoops without an explanation, until I asked about it. But his reason sounded solid enough. The vote also happened to be NTN, but I would think the wolves would disguise their actions better than back-to-back votes. So that's what I'm thinking right now. I don't think hoops or NTN are wolves, so that leaves me voting for Barkeep right now to keep the other two aboard. |
08-07-2007, 06:02 PM | #328 |
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Dola,
The "but then he said we should put another high-class player to test out the talent/movie role theory" is an argument that he isn't a wolf. It sounds like I made it an argument that supports him being a wolf. |
08-07-2007, 06:02 PM | #329 | |
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For the record, I'm referring to post 249. There's a lot of sentiment in here that we don't want to off Barkeep, since he will be valuable in later days, and I do see that -- ntn always makes me nervous since he doesn't post much, which is a double-edged sword for him, since he makes me suspect him more, and doesn't help the village as much. But I think Barkeep is getting a pass based on his history in previous games. That said, I'm willing to change my vote if he answers my question satisfactorily -- that's always been my MO. |
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08-07-2007, 06:03 PM | #330 |
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Double Dola,
And so right now I think that one of KWhit or path12 are wolves (maybe both?), but as you can see I have nothing solid. |
08-07-2007, 06:24 PM | #331 | |
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sorry if we have the answers to these already, but I think 5 is a good number. we can not have less than 4 I think with 2 wolves and a possible conversion (bribe) to make a collaborator, that 4 would be the minimum but 5 gives us a little safety room. I like it. only other way to do it than by player list is alphabetically by screen name. I think the player list we have is sufficient though. |
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08-07-2007, 06:27 PM | #332 |
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08-07-2007, 06:30 PM | #333 |
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so we are close to the deadline.
who are the 4 people submiting? |
08-07-2007, 06:37 PM | #334 | |
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In my defense, I did mention the need for a schedule for stepping it up early on. (If Iremember right even before you did hoops.) Granted it was just the kernel of that idea, but it was an important thing to look at as we have all seen I believe. |
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08-07-2007, 06:38 PM | #335 |
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08-07-2007, 06:43 PM | #336 |
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Well it looks as if Iam pretty much a goner. I can say how much I liked this chance to be in the bigs. I learned a lot from my mentor, Mr. Taylor.
I do think that path is suspicious. he sems like he is playing an out in front wolf. And he seems to play that role so well. So that is where I am going. Vote Path |
08-07-2007, 06:44 PM | #337 |
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just got in. Will submit now
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08-07-2007, 06:47 PM | #338 |
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08-07-2007, 06:50 PM | #340 |
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nice vote-change there to swing it onto ntn cronin. Managed to sneak it in without much fanfare hmm? interesting...and on D2 you can claim "well it was a D1 vote"
guys...cronin is smelling more and more rotten by the minute to me. And lathum earns a raised-eyebrow for not noticing how hard i've been trying to get people to vote for cronin/trying to throw suspiscion onto me. |
08-07-2007, 06:53 PM | #341 |
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and my vote isn't moving fyi. i've played with cronin enough times as a wolf...something is tickling me about him already this game. now like I said, maybe i'm wrong. But given his extremely defensive reaction to what was a single D1 vote...I don't know. He's too smart a player to make that kind of "mistake" play, but maybe I tweaked something in him and made him defensive when he didn't mean to be? One of those posts where you post it and then go "oh shoot" right after you hit submit...
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08-07-2007, 06:55 PM | #343 |
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08-07-2007, 07:08 PM | #344 |
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quiet deadline
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08-07-2007, 07:09 PM | #345 |
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No vote from Celeval, right? Or PurdueBrad?
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08-07-2007, 07:11 PM | #346 |
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I submitted a "step it up" order, ftr.
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08-07-2007, 07:18 PM | #347 |
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08-07-2007, 07:28 PM | #348 |
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Missed votes also translate into lost "step it ups", which is not ideal.
NTN, assuming that you weren't blowing smoke near the end I'm sorry to hear that we lost a faithful Indian today. So, I'm curious to see if there are going to be surprises with the "step it up" stuff today - did people follow the plan or chase after glory on their own? |
08-07-2007, 07:29 PM | #349 |
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Figures. Probably the one day I will need to rush because of my other job, I hit massive traffic because some boob couldn't hook his boat up to his trailer right.
Sorry for the wait, everyone. Tabulating votes right now. |
08-07-2007, 07:31 PM | #350 |
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Crap - sorry, had some home stuff happen and couldn't get online an hour ago like I planned.
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