The Democrat Party Headquarters Thread (No Repubs Allowed!!) - Page 7

mccollins · 07-22-2008, 04:37 PM

Alrighty, they're writing up a new bill finally.

At least Henry and Chubby need to make sure to vote for it. Probably Packer as well since that would be good for a Pres. nominee.

path12 · 07-22-2008, 04:39 PM

Anyone know if we can offer amendments?

I'll vote for it if necessary, but would rather not.

Wondering about heinz as well. He's too smart a player to be as rigid as he's been. Render is also pinging my radar.

Chubby · 07-22-2008, 04:41 PM

I'm still kinda miffed and suspicious that they even put that 1st bill up without checking with CR 1st knowing how strong it was.

PackerFanatic · 07-22-2008, 04:41 PM

I am catching up, but I will likely vote for it when I see the amended bill.

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 04:44 PM

And I likely will still have to vote against it.

Chubby · 07-22-2008, 04:46 PM

Being a centrist I'll be voting for it. It will pass, they just have to be friggin careful this time.

chesapeake · 07-22-2008, 04:49 PM

I'll be opposing the new bill.

mccollins · 07-22-2008, 04:51 PM

I'll also be opposing the new bill. I may vote for later GOP bills, but this is the "furthest right wing role"

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 04:52 PM

I worry though that there may not be enough people who chack back in tonight to vote for it. Do we know what it takes to pass a bill? Is it over 50% of congress? Or just more Yes votes than No?

Chubby · 07-22-2008, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

I worry though that there may not be enough people who chack back in tonight to vote for it. Do we know what it takes to pass a bill? Is it over 50% of congress? Or just more Yes votes than No?

I was thinking about the same thing. I think it's over 50% of congress but you'd have to check with CR to be sure I think.

path12 · 07-22-2008, 04:55 PM

I'll vote for this one assuming they write it somewhat sensibly.

Chubby · 07-22-2008, 04:55 PM

How does it work in real life?

PackerFanatic · 07-22-2008, 04:55 PM

I think just majority.

PackerFanatic · 07-22-2008, 04:56 PM

The rules don't specifically state which is the case.

PackerFanatic · 07-22-2008, 05:00 PM

Any guesses as to who they might have chosen for their Prez candidate? I saw they had illini and Mrs. Schmidty as co-sponsors of their bill.

chesapeake · 07-22-2008, 05:00 PM

In real life, a regular bill just needs a majority of those voting.

chesapeake · 07-22-2008, 05:01 PM

My guess is illini, then, for the same reason that we proposed Chubby for Speaker.

BTW, congrats, Chubby.

PackerFanatic · 07-22-2008, 05:03 PM

I e-mailed CR just so we can get it cleared up.

And way to go, Chubby

Chubby · 07-22-2008, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chesapeake

My guess is illini, then, for the same reason that we proposed Chubby for Speaker.

BTW, congrats, Chubby.

Thank you.

If it's one of them it will at least be a close race I think since they are pretty close to PF in being near the center.

KWhit - Have you decided on support and slurry powers? They need to be sent in by 9pm

PackerFanatic · 07-22-2008, 05:07 PM

illni is at the same level as me, so yeah it will be close.

PackerFanatic · 07-22-2008, 05:07 PM

I think me voting yes for this bill will help a little, so we'll see.

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby

Thank you.

If it's one of them it will at least be a close race I think since they are pretty close to PF in being near the center.

KWhit - Have you decided on support and slurry powers? They need to be sent in by 9pm

Haven't decided yet. Do we know if we can send in multiples to the same person or bill? If so, we could load up a couple onto PF.

PackerFanatic · 07-22-2008, 05:10 PM

From CR:

Quote:

Needs the same minimum requirements that is in place for a Speaker to call the vote. Overall majority is needed for quorum. Once those conditions are met, a simple majority is all that’s needed to pass it.

So it looks like it does need 50%.

PackerFanatic · 07-22-2008, 05:12 PM

Maybe a slurry on illini, if we think he is the candidate.

PackerFanatic · 07-22-2008, 05:12 PM

And I would imagine they can be doubled or tripled, since the effects are cumulative.

PackerFanatic · 07-22-2008, 05:12 PM

If not, just put in some conditionals.

Chubby · 07-22-2008, 05:14 PM

conditionals would be good if you are allowed to say
"slurry the republican nominee for president"
I think that's an option

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

From CR:

Needs the same minimum requirements that is in place for a Speaker to call the vote. Overall majority is needed for quorum. Once those conditions are met, a simple majority is all that’s needed to pass it.

So it looks like it does need 50%.

Hmmm... I think that means that at least 50% of the congress has to place a vote (meaning 9 total votes are required today with 18 players). Once at least 9 people have voted, a simple 50% of those voting is required.

Make sense?

PackerFanatic · 07-22-2008, 05:17 PM

That is the way I am viewing it as well, KWhit.

And that would be pretty neat, Chubby. I was more thinking conditionals in case you can't put more than one on a person/bill, but it would be neat to do that too.

chesapeake · 07-22-2008, 05:17 PM

Definitely at least one support each on the bill and PF.

What are folks thinking about slurries? How much does it help us to knock out republicans at this point in the game? Since any bill we seriously propose will probably benefit everyone in either party that isn't a wolf, it probably isn't necessary to lean on their moderates to get their support for our bills. They should do it anyway.

We want to be in a position to stay ahead of them numerically, but I would think the wolves would likely keep the parties fairly balanced anyway.

That said, my money is in illini being their presidential nominee. We have to hit him. Probably Mrs. S, too, just to be safe. The presidential nominee is cannot lose his/her seat, anyway, so that would be a freebie.

I'm thinking 2 slurries on illini and 1 on Mrs. S.

PackerFanatic · 07-22-2008, 05:19 PM

I think that is a good idea, ches.

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 05:20 PM

Me too.

Chubby · 07-22-2008, 05:21 PM

I would say 2 on the repub presidential nominee (if we are allowed to submit them like that) and one on jeheinz since he is closest to the center

chesapeake · 07-22-2008, 05:26 PM

I wrote what I did before reading thoughts on conditionals. Conditionally heaping all 3 slurries on the GOP presidential candidate is a great idea. If that isn't allowed, I'd recommend going with the 2 on illini and 1 on Mrs. S.

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 05:32 PM

I'm out for just a bit (hour or so). But will be back by the deadline. I asked CR about the conditionals and will submit something when I get an answer.

KWhit · 07-22-2008, 05:43 PM

Here's what I'm doing:

Send 2 slurries to the Republican Presidential Candidate
Send 1 slurry to jeheinze72

Send 1 support to the NATIONAL WOLF SECURITY BILL
Send 2 support to PackerFanatic

chesapeake · 07-22-2008, 05:49 PM

Although I think Heinze may (just may) be a wolf, I don't know that whacking republicans is ultimately good for us over the long term. I know that electing our guy president (assuming he isn't a wolf) is good for us. I'm leaning towards urging that all 3 slurries hit the GOP Prez candidate.

henry296 · 07-22-2008, 05:52 PM

That makes sense to me.

mccollins · 07-22-2008, 06:01 PM

Alrighty, I've PM'd Chief Rum and done all my votes.

I'm off to a baseball game with the family - her work is renting out the "Pepsi Deck" for all the employees + family.

Lathum · 07-22-2008, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mccollins

Alrighty, I've PM'd Chief Rum and done all my votes.

I'm off to a baseball game with the family - her work is renting out the "Pepsi Deck" for all the employees + family.

always wanted to watch a game from there.

I have 2 new PM's frpm Pass, checking them now

Lathum · 07-22-2008, 06:22 PM

OK

first message is Pass saying thanks for letting them know they could run the bill by CR, then he says it was his fault it would fail, he was the one pushing for it to be strong...

Lathum · 07-22-2008, 06:23 PM

next one is just a resend to oile and CR

EagleFan · 07-22-2008, 09:13 PM

Any idea for tomorrow? If Chubby get the nomination for SoH that will give us a chance to get two bills propposed. We should be quite busy tomorrow.

PackerFanatic · 07-22-2008, 09:15 PM

When do we announce the prez candidate? Do we let CR know or just announce in the thread?

Chubby · 07-22-2008, 09:23 PM

Yes, we have two bills to propose tomorrow (one from KWhit and one from me) so hopefully everyone brainstorms tonight

PackerFanatic · 07-22-2008, 09:24 PM

'Grats officially Chubby

Chubby · 07-22-2008, 09:32 PM

Thanks all.

I think it's a great doy for the party. We've elected a strong people into our party leadership positions, we've taken the Speaker of the House and I think we have a strong candidate for the Presidency. We've also passed two bills that will aid in our goal of getting rid of the wolves. Our bill was pretty much a slam dunk while the Republicans had problems with their's.

The biggest red flags for me right now come from the Repubs putting that 1st vote up for vote. If Pass gave correct information and that is Pass' fault that he is suspicious in my mind.

PackerFanatic · 07-22-2008, 09:34 PM

Yeah, that is definitely on my radar, but I am going to focus on winning over as many repubs as I can tomorrow and lock in that President spot.

Chubby · 07-22-2008, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Yeah, that is definitely on my radar, but I am going to focus on winning over as many repubs as I can tomorrow and lock in that President spot.

I don't think our votes have anything to do with President. I think it all comes down to popularity and voters.

PackerFanatic · 07-22-2008, 09:38 PM

...oh that's right, we don't vote for Prez. Forgot about that

Well I hope they love me then!

07-22-2008, 04:39 PM	#302
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Anyone know if we can offer amendments? I'll vote for it if necessary, but would rather not. Wondering about heinz as well. He's too smart a player to be as rigid as he's been. Render is also pinging my radar. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-22-2008, 04:41 PM	#304
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I am catching up, but I will likely vote for it when I see the amended bill. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-22-2008, 04:55 PM	#311
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I'll vote for this one assuming they write it somewhat sensibly. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-22-2008, 04:55 PM	#313
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I think just majority. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-22-2008, 04:56 PM	#314
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	The rules don't specifically state which is the case. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-22-2008, 04:37 PM	#301
mccollins College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Nicholasville, KY	Alrighty, they're writing up a new bill finally. At least Henry and Chubby need to make sure to vote for it. Probably Packer as well since that would be good for a Pres. nominee.

07-22-2008, 04:41 PM	#303
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	I'm still kinda miffed and suspicious that they even put that 1st bill up without checking with CR 1st knowing how strong it was.

07-22-2008, 04:44 PM	#305
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	And I likely will still have to vote against it.

07-22-2008, 04:46 PM	#306
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	Being a centrist I'll be voting for it. It will pass, they just have to be friggin careful this time.

07-22-2008, 04:49 PM	#307
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	I'll be opposing the new bill.

07-22-2008, 04:51 PM	#308
mccollins College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Nicholasville, KY	I'll also be opposing the new bill. I may vote for later GOP bills, but this is the "furthest right wing role"

07-22-2008, 04:52 PM	#309
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I worry though that there may not be enough people who chack back in tonight to vote for it. Do we know what it takes to pass a bill? Is it over 50% of congress? Or just more Yes votes than No?

07-22-2008, 04:55 PM	#312
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	How does it work in real life?

07-22-2008, 05:00 PM	#315
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Any guesses as to who they might have chosen for their Prez candidate? I saw they had illini and Mrs. Schmidty as co-sponsors of their bill. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-22-2008, 05:00 PM	#316
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	In real life, a regular bill just needs a majority of those voting.

07-22-2008, 05:01 PM	#317
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	My guess is illini, then, for the same reason that we proposed Chubby for Speaker. BTW, congrats, Chubby.

07-22-2008, 05:03 PM	#318
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I e-mailed CR just so we can get it cleared up. And way to go, Chubby __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-22-2008, 05:07 PM	#320
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	illni is at the same level as me, so yeah it will be close. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-22-2008, 05:07 PM	#321
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I think me voting yes for this bill will help a little, so we'll see. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-22-2008, 05:12 PM	#324
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Maybe a slurry on illini, if we think he is the candidate. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-22-2008, 05:12 PM	#325
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	And I would imagine they can be doubled or tripled, since the effects are cumulative. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-22-2008, 05:12 PM	#326
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	If not, just put in some conditionals. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-22-2008, 05:14 PM	#327
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	conditionals would be good if you are allowed to say "slurry the republican nominee for president" I think that's an option

07-22-2008, 05:17 PM	#329
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	That is the way I am viewing it as well, KWhit. And that would be pretty neat, Chubby. I was more thinking conditionals in case you can't put more than one on a person/bill, but it would be neat to do that too. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-22-2008, 05:17 PM	#330
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	Definitely at least one support each on the bill and PF. What are folks thinking about slurries? How much does it help us to knock out republicans at this point in the game? Since any bill we seriously propose will probably benefit everyone in either party that isn't a wolf, it probably isn't necessary to lean on their moderates to get their support for our bills. They should do it anyway. We want to be in a position to stay ahead of them numerically, but I would think the wolves would likely keep the parties fairly balanced anyway. That said, my money is in illini being their presidential nominee. We have to hit him. Probably Mrs. S, too, just to be safe. The presidential nominee is cannot lose his/her seat, anyway, so that would be a freebie. I'm thinking 2 slurries on illini and 1 on Mrs. S.

07-22-2008, 05:19 PM	#331
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I think that is a good idea, ches. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-22-2008, 05:20 PM	#332
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Me too.

07-22-2008, 05:21 PM	#333
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	I would say 2 on the repub presidential nominee (if we are allowed to submit them like that) and one on jeheinz since he is closest to the center

07-22-2008, 05:26 PM	#334
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	I wrote what I did before reading thoughts on conditionals. Conditionally heaping all 3 slurries on the GOP presidential candidate is a great idea. If that isn't allowed, I'd recommend going with the 2 on illini and 1 on Mrs. S.

07-22-2008, 05:32 PM	#335
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I'm out for just a bit (hour or so). But will be back by the deadline. I asked CR about the conditionals and will submit something when I get an answer.

07-22-2008, 05:43 PM	#336
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Here's what I'm doing: Send 2 slurries to the Republican Presidential Candidate Send 1 slurry to jeheinze72 Send 1 support to the NATIONAL WOLF SECURITY BILL Send 2 support to PackerFanatic

07-22-2008, 05:49 PM	#337
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	Although I think Heinze may (just may) be a wolf, I don't know that whacking republicans is ultimately good for us over the long term. I know that electing our guy president (assuming he isn't a wolf) is good for us. I'm leaning towards urging that all 3 slurries hit the GOP Prez candidate.

07-22-2008, 05:52 PM	#338
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	That makes sense to me. __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

07-22-2008, 06:01 PM	#339
mccollins College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Nicholasville, KY	Alrighty, I've PM'd Chief Rum and done all my votes. I'm off to a baseball game with the family - her work is renting out the "Pepsi Deck" for all the employees + family.

07-22-2008, 06:22 PM	#341
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	OK first message is Pass saying thanks for letting them know they could run the bill by CR, then he says it was his fault it would fail, he was the one pushing for it to be strong...