College Football Bowl Games/Playoffs discussion - Page 7

cartman · 01-01-2015, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Ok, this begs the question... who ARE the good defenses in the SEC this year? Because everyone except for Mizzou has given up quite a bit of points in their bowl games this year.

Arkansas did a pretty good job of shutting Texas completely down, plus they had the back-to-back shutouts in conference play.

ISiddiqui · 01-01-2015, 10:20 PM

Ok, I forgot about Arkansas... but a bowl game between Texas and Arkansas is bound to be forgettable anyway.

But is it just Arkansas that was supposed to have a good defense?

JonInMiddleGA · 01-01-2015, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Which begs the question. Why was the west coast game started at 5pm est and the central time zone game started at 9 est? Just seemed back asswards to me.

Tradition, most likely.

Maintaining the 5pm timeslot was actually discussed when the Rose Bowl switched from NBC to ESPN back in 2012, and the time was contractually agreed upon.

Rose Bowl time slot preserved in ESPN pact - NCF Nation Blog - ESPN

Butter · 01-01-2015, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Which begs the question. Why was the west coast game started at 5pm est and the central time zone game started at 9 est? Just seemed back asswards to me.

Rose Bowl is very protective of their 2PM pacific start time.

ISiddiqui · 01-01-2015, 10:25 PM

So regardless of how this one turns out, it is insane to think that this Ohio State's 3rd string QB.

Butter · 01-01-2015, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Ok, this begs the question... who ARE the good defenses in the SEC this year? Because everyone except for Mizzou has given up quite a bit of points in their bowl games this year.

Clemson was excellent except against Georgia.

Edward64 · 01-01-2015, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Ok, I forgot about Arkansas... but a bowl game between Texas and Arkansas is bound to be forgettable anyway.

But is it just Arkansas that was supposed to have a good defense?

Arkansas got better as the year progressed when they found their confidence. They pretty much manhandled Texas.

I think they had better defense than many but still not top tier. Next year though ...

Edward64 · 01-01-2015, 10:29 PM

Ouch, I think OSU has the momentum now.

Butter · 01-01-2015, 10:31 PM

Fly like an eagle, Steve Miller!!!!

Dr. Sak · 01-01-2015, 10:32 PM

This has the potential to be one of the best New Year's Day the B1G has had in awhile.

cuervo72 · 01-01-2015, 10:33 PM

JonInMiddleGA · 01-01-2015, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Ok, this begs the question... who ARE the good defenses in the SEC this year? Because everyone except for Mizzou has given up quite a bit of points in their bowl games this year.

Part of the issue might be parsing "good" versus "great"

Bama is definitely down (the frequent lament of my works-in-the-Bama-Ath-Dept friend elsewhere).

5 SEC teams were in the top 20 in yards allowed, 7 in the top 25 ... however

LSU (#8) gave up 27 or more 3 times, including 27 to an anemic Florida

Florida (#9) gave up 30 or more 4 times,

Bama (#11) limited most teams on the scoreboard but gave up nearly 400 yds passing to WVU, nearly 400 total to UT and over 600 to Auburn

Ole Miss (#13), see TCU game

UGA (#18) allowed 400 yds or more at least 4x

Mizzou (#23), see vs UGA and vs Bama

Arkansas (#24) gave up 35 or more 3x

In short, overall body of work for quite a few SEC defenses was good but there wasn't a single defense that couldn't be had, and it happened more than once to every one of them.

ISiddiqui · 01-01-2015, 10:35 PM

This is a bit... crazy right now.

Easy Mac · 01-01-2015, 10:37 PM

Henry is singlehandedly keeping them alive.

kingfc22 · 01-01-2015, 10:44 PM

I'm just glad the BCS is gone. This is 100x better than being forced to watch what would have likely been FSU/Bama for the title.

Now if we can just get it to 8 teams.

Dutch · 01-01-2015, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

I'm just glad the BCS is gone. This is 100x better than being forced to watch what would have likely been FSU/Bama for the title.

Now if we can just get it to 8 teams.

Bama vs Oregon you mean? #1 vs #2.

kingfc22 · 01-01-2015, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

Bama vs Oregon you mean? #1 vs #2.

Polls had FSU #2.

The rankings used by the playoff committee are different.

Edward64 · 01-01-2015, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

I'm just glad the BCS is gone. This is 100x better than being forced to watch what would have likely been FSU/Bama for the title.

Now if we can just get it to 8 teams.

I think 4 is good. Sure you might a TCU that is debatable but think vast majority of people will think the winner amongst the 4 is the national champion.

Edward64 · 01-01-2015, 11:02 PM

Great game with all the momentum shifts.

TroyF · 01-01-2015, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

Bama vs Oregon you mean? #1 vs #2.

Look, we all should know there was only ONE reason FSU was in this playoff. They were unbeaten. Add the fact they were the defending champions and I don't think there is any doubt in the world they would have faced Bama and Oregon/Ohio State would have been left out.

I think the four best teams were TCU, Bama, Ohio State and Oregon. There is zero chance FSU (or any top 5 conference team) goes unbeaten and gets left out. There is zero chance the defending champions, unbeaten wouldn't have been in the title game.

The playoff saved Oregon and Ohio St from playing a game that would decide #2

cuervo72 · 01-01-2015, 11:02 PM

Ah, perhaps you were only teasing us, tOSU.

cuervo72 · 01-01-2015, 11:03 PM

Man, my reverse-jinx skills are STRONG.

Easy Mac · 01-01-2015, 11:03 PM

Bama got to cute. Just run Henry.

TroyF · 01-01-2015, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

I think 4 is good. Sure you might a TCU that is debatable but think vast majority of people will think the winner amongst the 4 is the national champion.

I still prefer 8. The 5 conference champs, one small conference team and two wild cards to be decided.

ISiddiqui · 01-01-2015, 11:05 PM

I think I'd do 6. Have the Top 2 seeds with a bye.

kingfc22 · 01-01-2015, 11:05 PM

OSU with a second chance to get a few first downs to at a minimum flip field position

kingfc22 · 01-01-2015, 11:08 PM

Way to burn some clock...

Easy Mac · 01-01-2015, 11:10 PM

Does roughing depend on if they hit the plant leg?

Julio Riddols · 01-01-2015, 11:10 PM

That was definitely not roughing in my book. Don't know why Meyer is throwing such a fit over it.

This has been a pretty great game.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-01-2015, 11:10 PM

Looked like 15 to me, tbh

Butter · 01-01-2015, 11:11 PM

Looked like roughing to me.

Dutch · 01-01-2015, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Polls had FSU #2.

The rankings used by the playoff committee are different.

Ah, ok, I thought the rankings I was seeing on TV were the same ones they would used to use, but I see these are different.

Dutch · 01-01-2015, 11:13 PM

Pretty good summation picked up from the internets...

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Basically there are three different calls
1) Incidental contact - just a tap often caused by the kicker's motion. No one could possibly get hurt in football, but a soccer player would flop to the ground screaming for his mommy.

2) Running into - The kicker is moved but not typically knocked down by the contact. The contact is usually to the kicking leg or the body. Only a very slight chance of serious injury.

3) Roughing - This is a personal foul that could cause serious injury. The kicker is almost always taken to the ground in a very rough manner. Contact to the non-kicking leg or helmet will almost always be called roughing.

Easy Mac · 01-01-2015, 11:14 PM

I was wondering if Kiffin remembered he has RBs

CU Tiger · 01-01-2015, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Clemson was excellent except against Georgia.

Of course they arent an SEC team like the question asked.

And remember 4 of their starters on D were suspended for that Game and then their back up DE was lost on the 2nd play from scrimmage. meaning they played the whole game with a 3rd string DE. 2nd string CB. 2nd string S. and missing one of their top 2 DTs.

And they held UGA in tact until the 4th quarter.

CU Tiger · 01-01-2015, 11:19 PM

Feels like OSU is running out of juice here. Hope Im wrong. But feels like Bama has all the mo

RedKingGold · 01-01-2015, 11:22 PM

Jones proves that Jared Lorenzen could have succeeded in the NFL if given a chance. #fatqbftw

CU Tiger · 01-01-2015, 11:23 PM

Reverse mojo jinx, FTW.

Dutch · 01-01-2015, 11:23 PM

Well there ya go, the playoff solved one problem (letting Oregon in) and created another (letting Ohio State in).

ColtCrazy · 01-01-2015, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Feels like OSU is running out of juice here. Hope Im wrong. But feels like Bama has all the mo

Glad you were (so far).

As an IU fan, I have to say OSU is my least favorite Big Ten team by far, but I'm rooting for them tonight. Would love to see a non-SEC championship.

NobodyHere · 01-01-2015, 11:25 PM

Love to see Alabama lose
(although I probably just jinxed tOSU)

ISiddiqui · 01-01-2015, 11:25 PM

Wow... well, I really did think that OSU could hang with Alabama, but I don't think I imagined this so far.

henry296 · 01-01-2015, 11:27 PM

Since my wife went to bed it is 36-6 Ohio state

ColtCrazy · 01-01-2015, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Love to see Alabama lose
(although I probably just jinxed tOSU)

Shhh. Look what you just did.

Easy Mac · 01-01-2015, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by henry296

Since my wife went to bed it is 36-6 Ohio state

You're married to my wife too?

Easy Mac · 01-01-2015, 11:29 PM

God Blake Sims is horrible

RedKingGold · 01-01-2015, 11:33 PM

Can we give Evan Spencer the Heisman?

Easy Mac · 01-01-2015, 11:34 PM

What?

ColtCrazy · 01-01-2015, 11:34 PM

uh....

kingfc22 · 01-01-2015, 11:34 PM

What is OSU doing???

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ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Ok, I forgot about Arkansas... but a bowl game between Texas and Arkansas is bound to be forgettable anyway. But is it just Arkansas that was supposed to have a good defense? __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams Last edited by ISiddiqui : 01-01-2015 at 10:21 PM.

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ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	So regardless of how this one turns out, it is insane to think that this Ohio State's 3rd string QB. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

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Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Henry is singlehandedly keeping them alive.

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Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	Great game with all the momentum shifts.

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Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Bama got to cute. Just run Henry.

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ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	I think I'd do 6. Have the Top 2 seeds with a bye. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

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Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Does roughing depend on if they hit the plant leg?

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RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Jones proves that Jared Lorenzen could have succeeded in the NFL if given a chance. #fatqbftw

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CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	Reverse mojo jinx, FTW.

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