Werewolf XXXIV: Tombstone (GAME OVER - Night 13) - Page 7

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2006, 06:22 PM

Well since I like someone who didn't volunteer themselves over someone who did,
unelect Chief
Elect Saldana

And I would encourage those people who are voting for me to vote for saldana as well, as I think I'm the wrong person to be sherrif right now.

SnDvls · 10-09-2006, 06:24 PM

alan another question. you mention the jail having a capacity. do we know what that is?

SnDvls · 10-09-2006, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

And I would encourage those people who are voting for me to vote for saldana as well, as I think I'm the wrong person to be sherrif right now.

is this because you believe your vice could hurt us villagers (assuming you have one) or another reason?

path12 · 10-09-2006, 06:30 PM

I stated it earlier, but my vote for Saldana over LSG was mainly because I think we should have a more experienced player in that role (again, no slight to LSG). I would have went for most any of the vets and since Saldana was getting votes that's where I decided to go.

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2006, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

is this because you believe your vice could hurt us villagers (assuming you have one) or another reason?

Another reason.

Alan T · 10-09-2006, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

alan another question. you mention the jail having a capacity. do we know what that is?

The Answer to this question:

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Originally Posted by Alan T

In the Center of the town is the Town Jail. The Town jail is small and only has room for three prisoners at any one time. All prisoners are kept in seperate cells, and are prevented from having contact with any other player while in the jail. Prisoners may participate in sheriff election votes, and town lynch votes but are prevented from participating in any other day or night period actions.

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

alan what happens if we on day 2 put someone in jail then day 3 the sheriff in charge lynches him and we also elect a new sheriff that day?

I am not entirely sure I understand the question here, so if I do not answer what you are asking, let me know. To try to answer the question, players without the appropriate job/role can not place a person in the jail. Also, the sheriff can not solely lynch someone on their own, that is done by the townspeople's lynch vote. The two shouldn't interfere with each other ever as the cycle would go:

Day 1: Elect sheriff
Night 1: Sheriff places a person/people in jail.
Day 2: Townspeople vote to lynch the people in jail as well as elect a new sheriff if they want to.
Night 2: The sheriff can remove anyone currently still in jail (not lynched from the day) if they want, as well as jail new people up to the maximum capacity.

saldana · 10-09-2006, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I agree. That's why people should just be honest about their roles in the first place.

Saldana, I have no real objection to your being sherrif. I'll even vote for you if someone would just explain what makes you a good candidate versus the others out there.

bk, i dont think there is anything that i can say that makes me a better candidate than anyone else at this point in the game....you got no way to verify anything i say, just like you got no way to verify anyone else. i think the reason people voted for me is because i am a known quantity...y'all know i wont go runnin my personal agenda if i'm wearin that tin star, and thats the only thing i can say...you've got my word i will be aimin to run them cowboys out of town faster than you can shake a stick at.

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2006, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

bk, i dont think there is anything that i can say that makes me a better candidate than anyone else at this point in the game....you got no way to verify anything i say, just like you got no way to verify anyone else. i think the reason people voted for me is because i am a known quantity...y'all know i wont go runnin my personal agenda if i'm wearin that tin star, and thats the only thing i can say...you've got my word i will be aimin to run them cowboys out of town faster than you can shake a stick at.

Nice response and it makes me feel good that I've voted for you.

spleen1015 · 10-09-2006, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

alan another question. you mention the jail having a capacity. do we know what that is?

In the Town Layout and Buildings of note section, it mentions that the jail can hold up to three people.

bulletsponge · 10-09-2006, 07:06 PM

idea time

i think we should re-elect a sheriff every couple days, or every day. that way we are less likely to be screwed if we elect a cowboy into that office.

any ideas on this?

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2006, 07:21 PM

But we are also more likely to then elect a cowboy into office. It also diminishes the accountability. The sherrif won't mess around as much since they know they get to keep their job if they're good. If they know that they're losing the job no matter what, the desire to play hunches, even if the rest of the town is opposed, increases.

LoneStarGirl · 10-09-2006, 07:39 PM

I know I am new at Werewolf but I will also listen to what everybody says and do what i am supposed to do. I dont have anything from that past that i can use to vouch for me, but i am a woman so you know im trustworthy

LoneStarGirl · 10-09-2006, 07:40 PM

updated vote count anyone? I know i haven't voted, neither has GE, i think there were 15 votes and 21 people in the game, but my counting could be way off

LoneStarGirl · 10-09-2006, 07:40 PM

updated vote count anyone? I know i haven't voted, neither has GE, i think there were 15 votes and 21 people in the game, but my counting could be way off

bulletsponge · 10-09-2006, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

I know I am new at Werewolf but I will also listen to what everybody says and do what i am supposed to do. I dont have anything from that past that i can use to vouch for me, but i am a woman so you know im trustworthy

i was your first supporter because i thought your noobiness would keep you from going crazy

Racer · 10-09-2006, 07:44 PM

I believe you and Saldana are tied at six votes a piece and 18 out of the 21 people have voted.

hoopsguy · 10-09-2006, 07:44 PM

Here is what I show for the vote counts - note that I only tallied changes since Alan's last update rather than starting from scratch. As of Post #314:

(6) Lonestargirl - Bulletsponge (109), Fouts (121), Lathum (180), St.cronin (205), Glengoyne (236), Chubby (254)
(6) Saldana - Anxiety (176), Hoopsguy (246), Spleen (256), Swaggs (258), Path (266), Barkeep (301)
(3) Barkeep - Chief Rum (168), Racer (175), Sndvls (253)
(1) hoopsguy - ntndeacon (104)
(1) SnDvls - Grammaticus (237)
(1) Fouts - Thomkal (242)

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2006, 07:50 PM

Again, I hope that the three people on me change their votes to saldana.

ntndeacon · 10-09-2006, 07:50 PM

since a tie right now would be VERY bad.
unelect hoops
elect Saldana

LoneStarGirl · 10-09-2006, 08:02 PM

Barkeep you must really not like me. Oh well, i won't take it personal. Me, GE and whoelse haven't voted?

Thomkal · 10-09-2006, 08:03 PM

I'm assuming we have a seer (always a dangerous thing to do in a werewolf game) in this game. The threat of a seer viewing any new sheriff should be enough of a threat to keep the cowboys from trying to get themselves elected. I would encourage the seer(s) to take a look at whomever is elected sheriff, and the others who had a lot of votes during the day, staying silent if the sheriff is on the side of good.

Abe Sargent · 10-09-2006, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

idea time

i think we should re-elect a sheriff every couple days, or every day. that way we are less likely to be screwed if we elect a cowboy into that office.

any ideas on this?

Nah, I'd rather just wait and see how the one elected today does

bulletsponge · 10-09-2006, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Barkeep you must really not like me. Oh well, i won't take it personal. Me, GE and whoelse haven't voted?

want me to take him outside and fill him full of lead?

st.cronin · 10-09-2006, 08:07 PM

There is no reason, that I can tell to elect anybody. There are good reasons NOT to elect somebody, such as that person asking not to be elected. But there is no reason that I can see to elect LSG over saldana or vice versa.

st.cronin · 10-09-2006, 08:08 PM

dola

I agree that it makes no sense to put a 'term limit' on the sherriff. We will elect a new one when we have lost confidence in the old one.

ntndeacon · 10-09-2006, 08:08 PM

LoneStar are you about to vote for yourself? If So let us know. I am not above changing my vote again. I just don't want a tie to happen.

st.cronin · 10-09-2006, 08:10 PM

unelect Lonestargirl

elect saldana

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2006, 08:12 PM

Lonestargirl: It has nothing about like or dislike. Why I bet yous one purty woman. It's just that, well, I've been knowin' saldana longer and he didn't seem quite so eager for the post. In the end I would just really like the people who have voted for me to vote for someone else, even if that's you. A vote for me, is a wasted vote, at the moment.

saldana · 10-09-2006, 08:12 PM

although i dont myself like the way it looks, i agree that a tie today would be the worst possible idea since them horseless carriages.

elect saldana

Chubby · 10-09-2006, 08:18 PM

It's like 9-5 right now so I unless there's a late swing I don't see much changing...

Fouts · 10-09-2006, 08:33 PM

I don't trust saldana. Never have, never will.

LoneStarGirl · 10-09-2006, 08:41 PM

its 8-5, so even if i vote for myself it doesn't matter, and I dont know if GE will be home from soccer in time, and i dont know who the missing party is, so it seems irrelevant. I dont want y'all to think I was being too eager to get it, its just that in the previous two games i've played, I was the most boring roll, and now i got a boring one again. So i want to be Sherrif. At least if Saldana proves unworthy I can get my chance.

LoneStarGirl · 10-09-2006, 08:42 PM

elect lonestargirl

Chubby · 10-09-2006, 08:43 PM

Since saldana is in the thread, I'm curious as to his plans for the who is going in the pokey.

saldana · 10-09-2006, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

I don't trust saldana. Never have, never will.

thats funny, cuz last time we were ridin down this trail, we was fightin on the same side.

saldana · 10-09-2006, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

its 8-5, so even if i vote for myself it doesn't matter, and I dont know if GE will be home from soccer in time, and i dont know who the missing party is, so it seems irrelevant. I dont want y'all to think I was being too eager to get it, its just that in the previous two games i've played, I was the most boring roll, and now i got a boring one again. So i want to be Sherrif. At least if Saldana proves unworthy I can get my chance.

what makes you think that GE would vote for you?

bulletsponge · 10-09-2006, 08:45 PM

yea whio you putting in jail if elected Saladana?
\

saldana · 10-09-2006, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby

Since saldana is in the thread, I'm curious as to his plans for the who is going in the pokey.

i have some thoughts, but i am open to suggestions.

saldana · 10-09-2006, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

yea whio you putting in jail if elected Saladana?
\

as an elected official, it would be less than prudent not to listen to my constituents a bit first.

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2006, 08:48 PM

"Well", says the self-serving bartender, "I think some of the quieter people, might be a good place to start."

Chief Rum · 10-09-2006, 08:50 PM

I understand Barkeep's reasoning for wanting us BK voters on someone else, but the fact is that this vote seems pretty decided at this point. I don't favor LSG over saldana or vice versa, so it matters little to me which one wins at this point. If the townsfolk want to elect one over the other, power to them, and I will withhold my opinion until we see what sort of sheriff we have.

And I also still feel a vote for BK has more legitimacy than any of the other votes, because we have a gameplay reason to vote for him. But given BK's desire to stay out of the role, I won't campaign for him.

Chubby · 10-09-2006, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

i have some thoughts, but i am open to suggestions.

Well I don't have any specific people to throw out there which is why I was curious as to your thoughts (since you're most likely Sherriff).

You're going to have to jail people before we hear the results of the night actions (if I'm reading the rules right) so we don't get the benefit of seeing what happens overnight to use on who to lynch.

Fouts · 10-09-2006, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

thats funny, cuz last time we were ridin down this trail, we was fightin on the same side.

Its possible we are, but I don't get the bandwagon to get you elected. Not like you said anything special. I'd rather elect somebody who we think cannot be converted.

saldana · 10-09-2006, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

yea whio you putting in jail if elected Saladana?
\

and the name's saldana there, bourbonsponge

saldana · 10-09-2006, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby

Well I don't have any specific people to throw out there which is why I was curious as to your thoughts (since you're most likely Sherriff).

You're going to have to jail people before we hear the results of the night actions (if I'm reading the rules right) so we don't get the benefit of seeing what happens overnight to use on who to lynch.

my personal thoughts were barkeep, as a manner of protecting him a bit, seein as how he has alluded to havin a bit o' value

and lonestargirl..she just wanted to get her hands on that badge a wee bit too much...didnt make a whole lot a sense for a bad guy to be so overt, so she is pretty high on my trust list right now.

Fouts · 10-09-2006, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

my personal thoughts were barkeep, as a manner of protecting him a bit, seein as how he has alluded to havin a bit o' value

and lonestargirl..she just wanted to get her hands on that badge a wee bit too much...didnt make a whole lot a sense for a bad guy to be so overt, so she is pretty high on my trust list right now.

Read post #340.

saldana · 10-09-2006, 08:58 PM

dola, basically, i dont have no suspects yet, but im figuring them two guys to be worth keepin around a bit

saldana · 10-09-2006, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts

Read post #340.

i did...but the question was asked what i was thinkin, so i told y'all...that don't mean thats what's gonna happen.

Chubby · 10-09-2006, 09:00 PM

saldana - so you are advocating protecting good guys by placing them in jail? thereby not allowing them (if they are good) to do their night actions that would be beneficial to us?

We;re only allowed to lynch players in jail. If you put 2 players you trust in there, then are you advocating no lynch on day 2?

Fouts · 10-09-2006, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

dola, basically, i dont have no suspects yet, but im figuring them two guys to be worth keepin around a bit

If I understand the game right, we can't lynch people until you jail them. As sheriff, you have alot of power.

10-09-2006, 06:30 PM	#304
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I stated it earlier, but my vote for Saldana over LSG was mainly because I think we should have a more experienced player in that role (again, no slight to LSG). I would have went for most any of the vets and since Saldana was getting votes that's where I decided to go. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

10-09-2006, 08:07 PM	#324
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	There is no reason, that I can tell to elect anybody. There are good reasons NOT to elect somebody, such as that person asking not to be elected. But there is no reason that I can see to elect LSG over saldana or vice versa. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

10-09-2006, 08:08 PM	#325
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	dola I agree that it makes no sense to put a 'term limit' on the sherriff. We will elect a new one when we have lost confidence in the old one. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

10-09-2006, 08:10 PM	#327
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	unelect Lonestargirl elect saldana __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

10-09-2006, 08:50 PM	#341
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I understand Barkeep's reasoning for wanting us BK voters on someone else, but the fact is that this vote seems pretty decided at this point. I don't favor LSG over saldana or vice versa, so it matters little to me which one wins at this point. If the townsfolk want to elect one over the other, power to them, and I will withhold my opinion until we see what sort of sheriff we have. And I also still feel a vote for BK has more legitimacy than any of the other votes, because we have a gameplay reason to vote for him. But given BK's desire to stay out of the role, I won't campaign for him. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

10-09-2006, 06:22 PM	#301
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Well since I like someone who didn't volunteer themselves over someone who did, unelect Chief Elect Saldana And I would encourage those people who are voting for me to vote for saldana as well, as I think I'm the wrong person to be sherrif right now.

10-09-2006, 06:24 PM	#302
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	alan another question. you mention the jail having a capacity. do we know what that is?

10-09-2006, 07:06 PM	#310
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	idea time i think we should re-elect a sheriff every couple days, or every day. that way we are less likely to be screwed if we elect a cowboy into that office. any ideas on this?

10-09-2006, 07:21 PM	#311
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	But we are also more likely to then elect a cowboy into office. It also diminishes the accountability. The sherrif won't mess around as much since they know they get to keep their job if they're good. If they know that they're losing the job no matter what, the desire to play hunches, even if the rest of the town is opposed, increases.

10-09-2006, 07:39 PM	#312
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	I know I am new at Werewolf but I will also listen to what everybody says and do what i am supposed to do. I dont have anything from that past that i can use to vouch for me, but i am a woman so you know im trustworthy

10-09-2006, 07:40 PM	#313
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	updated vote count anyone? I know i haven't voted, neither has GE, i think there were 15 votes and 21 people in the game, but my counting could be way off

10-09-2006, 07:40 PM	#314
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	updated vote count anyone? I know i haven't voted, neither has GE, i think there were 15 votes and 21 people in the game, but my counting could be way off

10-09-2006, 07:44 PM	#316
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	I believe you and Saldana are tied at six votes a piece and 18 out of the 21 people have voted.

10-09-2006, 07:44 PM	#317
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Here is what I show for the vote counts - note that I only tallied changes since Alan's last update rather than starting from scratch. As of Post #314: (6) Lonestargirl - Bulletsponge (109), Fouts (121), Lathum (180), St.cronin (205), Glengoyne (236), Chubby (254) (6) Saldana - Anxiety (176), Hoopsguy (246), Spleen (256), Swaggs (258), Path (266), Barkeep (301) (3) Barkeep - Chief Rum (168), Racer (175), Sndvls (253) (1) hoopsguy - ntndeacon (104) (1) SnDvls - Grammaticus (237) (1) Fouts - Thomkal (242)

10-09-2006, 07:50 PM	#318
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Again, I hope that the three people on me change their votes to saldana.

10-09-2006, 07:50 PM	#319
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	since a tie right now would be VERY bad. unelect hoops elect Saldana

10-09-2006, 08:02 PM	#320
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Barkeep you must really not like me. Oh well, i won't take it personal. Me, GE and whoelse haven't voted?

10-09-2006, 08:03 PM	#321
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	I'm assuming we have a seer (always a dangerous thing to do in a werewolf game) in this game. The threat of a seer viewing any new sheriff should be enough of a threat to keep the cowboys from trying to get themselves elected. I would encourage the seer(s) to take a look at whomever is elected sheriff, and the others who had a lot of votes during the day, staying silent if the sheriff is on the side of good.

10-09-2006, 08:08 PM	#326
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	LoneStar are you about to vote for yourself? If So let us know. I am not above changing my vote again. I just don't want a tie to happen.

10-09-2006, 08:12 PM	#328
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Lonestargirl: It has nothing about like or dislike. Why I bet yous one purty woman. It's just that, well, I've been knowin' saldana longer and he didn't seem quite so eager for the post. In the end I would just really like the people who have voted for me to vote for someone else, even if that's you. A vote for me, is a wasted vote, at the moment.

10-09-2006, 08:12 PM	#329
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	although i dont myself like the way it looks, i agree that a tie today would be the worst possible idea since them horseless carriages. elect saldana

10-09-2006, 08:18 PM	#330
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	It's like 9-5 right now so I unless there's a late swing I don't see much changing...

10-09-2006, 08:33 PM	#331
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	I don't trust saldana. Never have, never will.

10-09-2006, 08:41 PM	#332
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	its 8-5, so even if i vote for myself it doesn't matter, and I dont know if GE will be home from soccer in time, and i dont know who the missing party is, so it seems irrelevant. I dont want y'all to think I was being too eager to get it, its just that in the previous two games i've played, I was the most boring roll, and now i got a boring one again. So i want to be Sherrif. At least if Saldana proves unworthy I can get my chance.

10-09-2006, 08:42 PM	#333
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	elect lonestargirl

10-09-2006, 08:43 PM	#334
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	Since saldana is in the thread, I'm curious as to his plans for the who is going in the pokey.

10-09-2006, 08:45 PM	#337
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	yea whio you putting in jail if elected Saladana? \

10-09-2006, 08:48 PM	#340
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	"Well", says the self-serving bartender, "I think some of the quieter people, might be a good place to start."

10-09-2006, 08:58 PM	#347
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	dola, basically, i dont have no suspects yet, but im figuring them two guys to be worth keepin around a bit

10-09-2006, 09:00 PM	#349
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	saldana - so you are advocating protecting good guys by placing them in jail? thereby not allowing them (if they are good) to do their night actions that would be beneficial to us? We;re only allowed to lynch players in jail. If you put 2 players you trust in there, then are you advocating no lynch on day 2?

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