College Football Recruiting (2010 Class) Thread - UCLA vs UW ITT - Page 7

bhlloy · 10-09-2009, 01:45 AM

Interesting take on the family, I'm under the impression they are big time ND fans/alum. And I think Shirley is more likely to be a silent to UCLA than Pullard, but I have no doubt UCLA will end up with at least one of them.

Chief Rum · 10-09-2009, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

It's nice to actually get a brother who has the more talent gene pool in this case. Too much of this Jimmy Miller, Malik Jackson, JJ Hair et al medicore younger brother of a talented USC player.

UCLA is recruiting Jones and Barr as bother RB's. It will be interesting to see what happens if they land Shirley though too, but I think Shirley could also end up at DE.

UCLA has two other players as "silent verbals" who are players they've been recruiting pretty hard. My guess is that it's Hayes Pullard and Chris Ward, but Anthony Barr could be in there as well. I also think Barr will end up a Bruin as family might actually win out for the Bruins for a change

I really doubt Barr is one of the two mentioned at BRO, and I doubt Ward, too. Barr has been considered a Notre Dame lean for a long time now, and it just doesn't make sense for how things have gone with him and with the Notre Dame talk for him to be a silent to UCLA. Same with Ward, given his decision between them and Cal and his recent decision to take some more time to think it over.

I would guess Pullard and maybe the Servite kid. Or one of the Richardsons. Shirley's possible, too, although I think Pullard is more likely.

I do think we'll end up with Ward. Barr is very much a toss up, and my guess is he'll still end up at Notre Dame, although it should be an interesting recruiting battle.

Chief Rum · 10-09-2009, 01:58 AM

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I've heard a lot of rumblings Barr almost committed to ND last weekend and they have taken over his top spot. He has set some OV's since then but might cancel them now. Michigan was one of them. I hope he at least visits because this kid is a monster. That said is UCLA recruiting him as an RB? I know one of Michigan's Rival guys heard UM was one of the only teams recruiting him as just an RB.

BRO (Bruin Report Online) just put up a recent article, BTW, quoting Barr as having Notre Dame and UCLA in the lead, and it seemed to be a significant lead, although he didn't say he was "down to those two". Michigan is mentioned in the article, and so is USC, IIRC. But it's shaping up to be a UCLA-Notre Dame battle.

I wonder if him breaking his ankle has affected his recruiting at all? Regardless, hope he heals up good.

MrBug708 · 10-09-2009, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Interesting take on the family, I'm under the impression they are big time ND fans/alum. And I think Shirley is more likely to be a silent to UCLA than Pullard, but I have no doubt UCLA will end up with at least one of them.

The dad is for obvious reasons, but the mom isn't so much. Or at least that is what I heard. Plus Rick can go to every one of his games to watch him play

DeToxRox · 10-09-2009, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

BRO (Bruin Report Online) just put up a recent article, BTW, quoting Barr as having Notre Dame and UCLA in the lead, and it seemed to be a significant lead, although he didn't say he was "down to those two". Michigan is mentioned in the article, and so is USC, IIRC. But it's shaping up to be a UCLA-Notre Dame battle.

I wonder if him breaking his ankle has affected his recruiting at all? Regardless, hope he heals up good.

I have little hope he ends up in Ann Arbor, but the Michigan/OSU game is shaping up to be the biggest recruiting weekend Michigan has ever had so it'd be huge to get him on campus. Then anything could happen. But like I said I doubt anything comes of it.

dawgfan · 10-09-2009, 02:09 AM

With any luck, Jones to UCLA will improve the UW's chances with Jordan James.

MrBug708 · 10-09-2009, 02:20 AM

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With any luck, Jones to UCLA will improve the UW's chances with Jordan James.

I think UCLA's main RB target is James, but I have no idea what his chances are for any school nor have I seen any.

dawgfan · 10-09-2009, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

I think UCLA's main RB target is James, but I have no idea what his chances are for any school nor have I seen any.

It's hard to get much of a read on James so far - he doesn't seem to be tipping his hand publicly.

MrBug708 · 10-10-2009, 03:30 PM

Chris Ward just commited to UCLA. 4 star OL from SoCal and the best in Cali

Chief Rum · 10-10-2009, 03:41 PM

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Chris Ward just commited to UCLA. 4 star OL from SoCal and the best in Cali

Awesome. Great news for UCLA. One good OL class does not a good line make. It takes consistent recruiting of top end line talent (and good coaching and weight work). USC does this fantastically, and I hope UCLA can one day get up to that standard. Ward's a step in the right direction for that.

MrBug708 · 10-10-2009, 04:47 PM

Ward is basically Eddie Williams replacement

Chief Rum · 10-10-2009, 04:56 PM

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Ward is basically Eddie Williams replacement

You're probably right. That said, we have that nice guard from this last class, too, who I think is going to be a solid player, and the development of Abele (who would be a tackle) could push someone out there inside as well.

MrBug708 · 10-10-2009, 05:02 PM

A lot will depend on what happens to the X man and his Mormon trip

Eaglesfan27 · 10-10-2009, 05:08 PM

Dillon Baxter accounted for almost 600 yards last night as he ran for 268, passed for 277, and had a 41 yard interception return. He is putting up insane numbers this year.

MrBug708 · 10-10-2009, 05:11 PM

I remember when David Koral had 700 yards passing in a high school game with 10 TD's

MrBug708 · 10-10-2009, 06:22 PM

4 star MLB Hayes Pullard committed to UCLA at halftime today

Chief Rum · 10-10-2009, 06:45 PM

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4 star MLB Hayes Pullard committed to UCLA at halftime today

I hope he immediately left the stadium after that.

BishopMVP · 10-19-2009, 01:31 AM

4* WR Tai-ler Jones, son of an ND D-lineman, switches his commitment from Stanford to ND.

MrBug708 · 10-19-2009, 12:25 PM

Very odd switched. He picked Stanford over UCLA initally

JonInMiddleGA · 10-19-2009, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Very odd switched. He picked Stanford over UCLA initally

Seems to have come down to tradition
Jones said the camaraderie and “chemistry” of the Fighting Irish players and the academic and athletic traditions of the school were what swayed him. He was particularly moved by how the players lined up on the field and sang the school fight song along with the Notre Dame students just moments after an excruciating 34-27 loss to Southern Cal.

“Things like that showed me that regardless if they win or lose, they’re going to do that every game,” said Jones, who will enroll in January. “Tradition is more important than celebrating or sulking.”

http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2009...to-notre-dame/

MrBug708 · 10-19-2009, 01:33 PM

And apparently he didn't get into Stanford

Chief Rum · 10-19-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

And apparently he didn't get into Stanford

That's weird. I know Stanford has the highest academic standards, but I thought they already vetted all their recruits to make sure they would get in before offering them. Plus, it's not like Notre Dame or UCLA are easy schools to get into either. Both have very good academic rep.

But then, I always think it's a little weird when a legacy goes elsewhere, too, and especially when it's a regular opponent of the legacy alma mater, like Stanford is with Notre Dame. So to me, I see this is as a reversal to correct form.

dawgfan · 10-19-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

That's weird. I know Stanford has the highest academic standards, but I thought they already vetted all their recruits to make sure they would get in before offering them.

I have my doubts that Harbaugh is able to vet his prospects well enough to know for sure if they'll be accepted, especially when he's putting out offers to H.S. freshmen and sophomores...

Chief Rum · 10-19-2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

I have my doubts that Harbaugh is able to vet his prospects well enough to know for sure if they'll be accepted, especially when he's putting out offers to H.S. freshmen and sophomores...

Is he? Well, then, yeah, maybe Bug's right, and that is what happened.

Still seems odd, though. Is there a big difference between the minimum standards observed between Stanford and Notre Dame? I would guess actually no, but I'll bet Notre Dame has more academic "magic bullets" for football players than Stanford allows its coaches to use.

BishopMVP · 10-19-2009, 04:52 PM

Heh, also just saw that Stanford also lost a local 4* TE.... to Harvard. I'm guessing his academic record wasn't the problem there.

dawgfan · 10-19-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Is he? Well, then, yeah, maybe Bug's right, and that is what happened.

Still seems odd, though. Is there a big difference between the minimum standards observed between Stanford and Notre Dame? I would guess actually no, but I'll bet Notre Dame has more academic "magic bullets" for football players than Stanford allows its coaches to use.

Well, given the huge gulf between the NCAA minimum academic standards for football players (the standards used by the vast majority of schools) and the actual entrance requirements for Stanford students at large, that's a pretty wide range of possible requirement standards.

I can't recall if Stanford prospects have to meet the same academic requirements that every other Stanford students do, but if so - I doubt Notre Dame uses requirements for their athletes that are as high.

Karlifornia · 10-19-2009, 05:28 PM

No shame in losing commits to places like ND and Harvard. Now, I'd start to worry if commits started ditching LSJU for places like Arizona or Oregon State.

BishopMVP · 10-19-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

Well, given the huge gulf between the NCAA minimum academic standards for football players (the standards used by the vast majority of schools) and the actual entrance requirements for Stanford students at large, that's a pretty wide range of possible requirement standards.

I can't recall if Stanford prospects have to meet the same academic requirements that every other Stanford students do, but if so - I doubt Notre Dame uses requirements for their athletes that are as high.

It's also hard to definitively argue because they shift over time. ND's administration and admissions reportedly turned pretty hard against the football team near the end of the Holtz era up until the early/mid-2000's when those who realized how much a bad football team was hurting prestige and alumni donations regained the upper hand in the athletic department and clergy. I also think Weis wanted promises when he took the job that he could get some players in - not ones flirting with the NCAA minimum standards, but not ones that would have a chance if a non-athlete. I also don't want to bring up race, but ND isn't the most diverse school, so how much being a minority helps and how much is the athletic potential is also up for debate.

ND isn't unique in relaxing academic standards when an athletic team starts slipping - Harvard is doing it both in lacrosse and in hockey to matchup with Yale who started doing it a couple years ago. BC's done it in hockey, and lacrosse examples are pretty much everywhere. The most egregious I knew was Brandon Corp dominating the Patriot League for Colgate when he was denied admission from multiple state schools. My friend who coached at Holy Cross would always bitch about him because the Holy Cross admissions weren't helping them at all - there they broke recruits down into tiers A, B, and C. A's would have gotten admitted regardless of being an athlete, and the coach can take as many of them as he wants, B's would normally be wait-listed and the coach could get 3 of them admitted a year while C's still had to be well above NCAA minimums but would have been rejected outright, and the coach was allowed to have 2 of them on the team at any time.

MrBug708 · 10-19-2009, 05:48 PM

They weren't too generous with my brother. 4.6 GOA, 2310 on his SAT's, the volleyball coach wanted him badly and they didn't let him in. Stupid volleyball

JonInMiddleGA · 10-19-2009, 06:44 PM

I doubt Jones had much problem with admission to Stanford, with a 25 ACT score on his first try as a junior (average range at Stanford for all freshmen is 26-31) and was (reportedly) told with that score not to even worry about taking the SAT, he was high enough with his ACT attempt to get in no problem.

edit to add: While Stanford appears to be more SAT oriented (high 70's percentage submit those scores, far less for the ACT), the middle 50% of ACT scores at Notre Dame is a good bit higher than Stanford, at 32-34.

MrBug708 · 10-19-2009, 07:24 PM

The ACT isn't a popular test in California so that might contribute to the lower ACT scores at Stanford, like you said

Eaglesfan27 · 10-24-2009, 12:27 AM

Dillon Baxter with 7 more touchdowns tonight. 5 rushing and 2 passing. He's going to be a huge wildcat weapon for the Trojans in the near future.

Crapshoot · 10-24-2009, 12:52 AM

FWIW, UCLA/Notre Dame are nice schools, no doubt, but Stanford is an elite school - huge difference. From a major sporting perspective, Duke is the only one that comes close.

Chief Rum · 10-24-2009, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

FWIW, UCLA/Notre Dame are nice schools, no doubt, but Stanford is an elite school - huge difference. From a major sporting perspective, Duke is the only one that comes close.

Heh, Stanford elitist...

Yeah, I think everyone here pretty much acknowledged that Stanford is academically above both other schools. The original point was only really focused on that from Bug's "maybe didn't get in" comment and us noting that both UCLA and Notre Dame are not exactly pushovers either when it comes to academics.

Sorry we didn't rank them for you.

DeToxRox · 10-24-2009, 11:00 AM

#1 QB Devin Gardner leads his Inkster team into Steubenville, Ohio, a team that had won 68 in a row at home, and pulled out a 36-29 win on a 63 yard TD pass with 40 seconds left. He had over 450 yards of total offense and was just a man amongst boys.

No doubt in my mind that should he stick his commitment out (and it sounds like he will, though UF is a threat) he will play next year and Denard Robinson will move most likely to a Percy Harvin type role in the UM offense.

dawgfan · 10-26-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

The original point was only really focused on that from Bug's "maybe didn't get in" comment and us noting that both UCLA and Notre Dame are not exactly pushovers either when it comes to academics.

Or more to the point, both UCLA and Notre Dame voluntarily use higher admission standards for their recruits than the NCAA minimums. There are other Universities that are at or above UCLA and Notre Dame in terms of academic reputations that use the NCAA minimum standards (Cal and Michigan come to mind).

BishopMVP · 10-26-2009, 09:31 PM

Before someone gets offended and this thread veers into the inevitable academic reputation throwdown

Notre Dame's USC game recruits list (not complete).

5*
DE Chris Martin (soft-ish Irish commit)
OT Seantrel Henderson
WR Kyle Prater
DT Louis Nix (soft Miami commit - 2nd visit to ND)
CB Lamarcus Joyner

4*
WR Tai-ler Jones (switched commit to ND, plans to enroll in January - that could have been the problem with Stanford and admissions if there actually was one)
RB Gio Bernard (just committed to ND, from FLA, St. Thomas Aquinas, same as Joyner)
WR/S Corey Cooper (current Illinois commit)
CB Josh Shaw
S Dietrich Riley (the recruit on the receiving end of that ill-advised tweet from UCLA's Randall Carroll, possible package deal with Shaw)
RB Jordon James

Of the 5*, Joyner sounds the least likely, even less so than Henderson, although his teammate committing can only help us. While Prater would be nice, the two most important are Martin and Nix. Bernard gives us 6 of the top 111 on Scout and 8 4* to go with Martin. (Now, please rip my post apart and explain why ND doesn't have a chance for any of them

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MJ4H · 10-26-2009, 09:36 PM

Michael Dyer is supposed to announce Nov. 6th on ESPN. (5* RB from Arkansas)

Conventional wisdom is Auburn, but he's on record as saying he basically wants his recruitment to be a circus, so he may commit one place and switch on NSD or something goofy. It has definitely been a circus thus-far. I'm sure he'll keep it up.

cartman · 10-30-2009, 11:02 AM

Sounds like WR DeMarco Cobbs switched his commitment from one UT to the other. He changed his verbal commit from Tennessee to Texas. He's listed at #17 on the ESPNU 150 list. That gives the Longhorns 20 pledges at this point.

Cuckoo · 10-30-2009, 12:02 PM

Cobbs is very overrated, in my opinion. And I promise I'm not saying that because he didn't pick OU.

Cuckoo · 10-30-2009, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

USC with a big get today as Kyle Prater announced that he will be a Trojan. USC has now gotten verbals from arguably the top 2 WR's in the nation. Looking forward to seeing USC's staff develop this huge talent.

So what's the deal on Prater? First, I hear that he's only a "soft" commit and still plans on looking at OU and Illinois. Now I'm hearing rumblings that he said OU is now his leader.

Cuckoo · 10-30-2009, 12:59 PM

And now for a triple DOLA...

By the way cartman, do you think this means Texas is giving up on Darius White? A lot of people seem to think he's an OU lock, but Texas really wanted him, I thought. In fact, I even read something this morning that said Texas didn't even really want Cobbs.

cartman · 10-30-2009, 01:10 PM

To be honest, I haven't heard much one way or the other about White. He's only taken a visit so far to Utah, and hasn't announced any others as of yet.

Eaglesfan27 · 10-30-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuckoo

So what's the deal on Prater? First, I hear that he's only a "soft" commit and still plans on looking at OU and Illinois. Now I'm hearing rumblings that he said OU is now his leader.

Who knows. The rumor is that his family is pressuring him to stay closer to home. At least, we won't have to wait until signing day to see if he backs out on us. Also, we have the Barkley factor working for us, so I still like our chances. Prater has been extremely complimentary of Barkley in interviews.

Blade6119 · 11-01-2009, 04:17 AM

I really hope he swaps to OU, that would seal Marcus Lucas for Mizzou

Karlifornia · 11-01-2009, 05:04 AM

To go back to the whole Tai-ler Jones discussion, Stanford (fans, alumni, and staff) likes to take recruiting losses and toss in the "he probably wasn't accepted" idea. This is true often enough, but I also feel that sometimes a loss is just a loss. Sometimes, kids just want to go elsewhere. It happens. I wish everyone around Stanford would stop putting on the play all the time.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 11-02-2009, 02:28 PM

Mizzou picked up a nice commit over the weekend. 4 star in-state DE.

Kony Ealy - Yahoo! Sports

MrBug708 · 11-03-2009, 06:38 PM

Apparently Darrell Scott is trying to transfer to UCLA. He is the former #1 running back in the nation who has been a complete, albeit injured, bust.

BishopMVP · 11-04-2009, 10:37 PM

Notre Dame gets a verbal from 3*/4* CB Toney Hurd Jr. out of Texas.

Chief Rum · 11-05-2009, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Apparently Darrell Scott is trying to transfer to UCLA. He is the former #1 running back in the nation who has been a complete, albeit injured, bust.

Look, not that I think we should turn talent away, but I'm not sure this is the best move for UCLA.

Dean already left for Texas Tech. Knox has been grumbling about PT. Franklin is starting and just a RS freshman. Coleman is a sophomore (probably end up at fullback, but still...). Thigpen has looked terrific in his short times on the field. Malcolm Jones, one of the top backs in the country, is coming in next season, and we're still looking good for Jordan James AND Anthony Barr.

Now, really, do we need another running back? I would prefer we get more O-linemen, DTs, impact defensive ends and linebackers, myself.

10-10-2009, 05:08 PM	#314
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10-19-2009, 05:28 PM	#327
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	No shame in losing commits to places like ND and Harvard. Now, I'd start to worry if commits started ditching LSJU for places like Arizona or Oregon State. __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

10-19-2009, 06:44 PM	#330
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	I doubt Jones had much problem with admission to Stanford, with a 25 ACT score on his first try as a junior (average range at Stanford for all freshmen is 26-31) and was (reportedly) told with that score not to even worry about taking the SAT, he was high enough with his ACT attempt to get in no problem. edit to add: While Stanford appears to be more SAT oriented (high 70's percentage submit those scores, far less for the ACT), the middle 50% of ACT scores at Notre Dame is a good bit higher than Stanford, at 32-34. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis Last edited by JonInMiddleGA : 10-19-2009 at 06:46 PM.

10-24-2009, 12:27 AM	#332
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Dillon Baxter with 7 more touchdowns tonight. 5 rushing and 2 passing. He's going to be a huge wildcat weapon for the Trojans in the near future. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

10-26-2009, 09:36 PM	#338
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Michael Dyer is supposed to announce Nov. 6th on ESPN. (5* RB from Arkansas) Conventional wisdom is Auburn, but he's on record as saying he basically wants his recruitment to be a circus, so he may commit one place and switch on NSD or something goofy. It has definitely been a circus thus-far. I'm sure he'll keep it up. Last edited by MJ4H : 10-26-2009 at 09:56 PM.

10-09-2009, 01:45 AM	#301
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Interesting take on the family, I'm under the impression they are big time ND fans/alum. And I think Shirley is more likely to be a silent to UCLA than Pullard, but I have no doubt UCLA will end up with at least one of them.

10-09-2009, 02:09 AM	#306
dawgfan Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Seattle	With any luck, Jones to UCLA will improve the UW's chances with Jordan James.

10-10-2009, 03:30 PM	#309
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Chris Ward just commited to UCLA. 4 star OL from SoCal and the best in Cali

10-10-2009, 04:47 PM	#311
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Ward is basically Eddie Williams replacement

10-10-2009, 05:02 PM	#313
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	A lot will depend on what happens to the X man and his Mormon trip

10-10-2009, 05:11 PM	#315
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I remember when David Koral had 700 yards passing in a high school game with 10 TD's

10-10-2009, 06:22 PM	#316
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	4 star MLB Hayes Pullard committed to UCLA at halftime today

10-19-2009, 01:31 AM	#318
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	4* WR Tai-ler Jones, son of an ND D-lineman, switches his commitment from Stanford to ND.

10-19-2009, 12:25 PM	#319
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Very odd switched. He picked Stanford over UCLA initally

10-19-2009, 01:33 PM	#321
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	And apparently he didn't get into Stanford

10-19-2009, 04:52 PM	#325
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	Heh, also just saw that Stanford also lost a local 4* TE.... to Harvard. I'm guessing his academic record wasn't the problem there.

10-19-2009, 05:48 PM	#329
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	They weren't too generous with my brother. 4.6 GOA, 2310 on his SAT's, the volleyball coach wanted him badly and they didn't let him in. Stupid volleyball

10-19-2009, 07:24 PM	#331
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	The ACT isn't a popular test in California so that might contribute to the lower ACT scores at Stanford, like you said

10-24-2009, 12:52 AM	#333
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	FWIW, UCLA/Notre Dame are nice schools, no doubt, but Stanford is an elite school - huge difference. From a major sporting perspective, Duke is the only one that comes close.

10-24-2009, 11:00 AM	#335
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	#1 QB Devin Gardner leads his Inkster team into Steubenville, Ohio, a team that had won 68 in a row at home, and pulled out a 36-29 win on a 63 yard TD pass with 40 seconds left. He had over 450 yards of total offense and was just a man amongst boys. No doubt in my mind that should he stick his commitment out (and it sounds like he will, though UF is a threat) he will play next year and Denard Robinson will move most likely to a Percy Harvin type role in the UM offense.

10-26-2009, 09:31 PM	#337
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	Before someone gets offended and this thread veers into the inevitable academic reputation throwdown Notre Dame's USC game recruits list (not complete). 5* DE Chris Martin (soft-ish Irish commit) OT Seantrel Henderson WR Kyle Prater DT Louis Nix (soft Miami commit - 2nd visit to ND) CB Lamarcus Joyner 4* WR Tai-ler Jones (switched commit to ND, plans to enroll in January - that could have been the problem with Stanford and admissions if there actually was one) RB Gio Bernard (just committed to ND, from FLA, St. Thomas Aquinas, same as Joyner) WR/S Corey Cooper (current Illinois commit) CB Josh Shaw S Dietrich Riley (the recruit on the receiving end of that ill-advised tweet from UCLA's Randall Carroll, possible package deal with Shaw) RB Jordon James Of the 5, Joyner sounds the least likely, even less so than Henderson, although his teammate committing can only help us. While Prater would be nice, the two most important are Martin and Nix. Bernard gives us 6 of the top 111 on Scout and 8 4 to go with Martin. (Now, please rip my post apart and explain why ND doesn't have a chance for any of them )

10-30-2009, 11:02 AM	#339
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Sounds like WR DeMarco Cobbs switched his commitment from one UT to the other. He changed his verbal commit from Tennessee to Texas. He's listed at #17 on the ESPNU 150 list. That gives the Longhorns 20 pledges at this point. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

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Cuckoo College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edmond, OK	Cobbs is very overrated, in my opinion. And I promise I'm not saying that because he didn't pick OU. __________________ Commissioner - North American Football League Dallas Cowboys GM

10-30-2009, 12:59 PM	#342
Cuckoo College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edmond, OK	And now for a triple DOLA... By the way cartman, do you think this means Texas is giving up on Darius White? A lot of people seem to think he's an OU lock, but Texas really wanted him, I thought. In fact, I even read something this morning that said Texas didn't even really want Cobbs. __________________ Commissioner - North American Football League Dallas Cowboys GM

10-30-2009, 01:10 PM	#343
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	To be honest, I haven't heard much one way or the other about White. He's only taken a visit so far to Utah, and hasn't announced any others as of yet. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

11-01-2009, 04:17 AM	#345
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	I really hope he swaps to OU, that would seal Marcus Lucas for Mizzou __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

11-01-2009, 05:04 AM	#346
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	To go back to the whole Tai-ler Jones discussion, Stanford (fans, alumni, and staff) likes to take recruiting losses and toss in the "he probably wasn't accepted" idea. This is true often enough, but I also feel that sometimes a loss is just a loss. Sometimes, kids just want to go elsewhere. It happens. I wish everyone around Stanford would stop putting on the play all the time. __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com Last edited by Karlifornia : 11-01-2009 at 05:05 AM.

11-02-2009, 02:28 PM	#347
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Mizzou picked up a nice commit over the weekend. 4 star in-state DE. Kony Ealy - Yahoo! Sports

11-03-2009, 06:38 PM	#348
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Apparently Darrell Scott is trying to transfer to UCLA. He is the former #1 running back in the nation who has been a complete, albeit injured, bust.

11-04-2009, 10:37 PM	#349
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	Notre Dame gets a verbal from 3/4 CB Toney Hurd Jr. out of Texas.

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