College Football: Week 1 Discussion - Page 7

MacroGuru · 09-01-2008, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Yeah, he's not exactly earning himself a spot in UCLA lore just yet. Or at least not the good kind. Oh, for the days of Bethel-McLeod!

There is a reason SDSU helped him pack his bags to get him the hell out of there you know.

JetsIn06 · 09-01-2008, 08:43 PM

miami_fan · 09-01-2008, 08:43 PM

Wow wow wow

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 08:43 PM

lol...can't say that's much of a shocker.

Vegas Vic · 09-01-2008, 08:44 PM

What's the NCAA record for most interceptions thrown in a game?

miami_fan · 09-01-2008, 08:44 PM

I have seen this before over the last couple of years. I think teams should avoid playing on Labor Day at all costs.

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 08:49 PM

I wish I could blame Labor Day, but, really, JIMG is right on. This is our third stringer. And Macro is right that if he were the stud you would like to see there, he wouldn't have left SDSU, even if eh didn't see eye to eye with Chuck Long.

I think what I am disappointed by is that there should be more poise and intelligence exhibited with these passes. I didn't expect the kid to light it up, especially against a great D like Tennessee, but I thought with his past D1 experience, he wouldn't look like a shell-shocked freshman. And that's what he looks like right now.

It's odd for me to say this, because I am not a big fan of his, but if Olson is healthy, we're up a couple TDs right now. Instead, we're down by one score, and we really don't have an option to go to after this guy. So Craft has to figure it out now.

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas Vic

What's the NCAA record for most interceptions thrown in a game?

I would look it up, but I don't want to give myself a threshold of "badness" to root for avoiding.

Vegas Vic · 09-01-2008, 08:51 PM

Craft is 7 out of 18 for 66 yards, 0 TD's and 4 INT's.

His NCAA passing efficiency rating in the 1st half is 25.2 (using the NFL formula, it is 10.1)

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas Vic

Craft is 7 out of 18 for 66 yards, 0 TD's and 4 INT's.

His NCAA passing efficiency rating in the 1st half is 25.2 (using the NFL formula, it is 10.1)

So he's still better than Grossman? Good.

Dr. Sak · 09-01-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas Vic

Craft is 7 out of 18 for 66 yards, 0 TD's and 4 INT's.

His NCAA passing efficiency rating in the 1st half is 25.2 (using the NFL formula, it is 10.1)

This is a replay of the South Carolina QB from Thursday. They won so that's a good sign for UCLA.

SirFozzie · 09-01-2008, 09:17 PM

Just a question.

Does anyone want to WIN this game?

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 09:18 PM

Unbelievable. Giving up the third down turned out to be the best thing for UCLA, since we forced the fumble on the next play.

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Just a question.

Does anyone want to WIN this game?

I do! But my eligibility has expired.

JonInMiddleGA · 09-01-2008, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Does anyone want to WIN this game?

I hope so ... since that would at least mean that this dually painful exhibition would be over.

Dr. Sak · 09-01-2008, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I do! But my eligibility has expired.

I still have 2 years left...give me Rick's number and I'll go out for a try out!

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 09:20 PM

Wow, good pass, great catch, great hit. Whoda thunk that play happens in this game?

JonInMiddleGA · 09-01-2008, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Wow, good pass, great catch, great hit. Whoda thunk that play happens in this game?

I believe that was the football equivalent of monkeys typing Shakespeare.

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 09:25 PM

It's funny, really, because we're in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation with our respective offensive issues. We came in with huge offensive line issues. My read is that passing offense, our line is quite a bit better than expected. But we're just as bad running it with this line as expected. We're getting outmuscled by the Tenn D-line. Result is, we can't run it, even though we have some pretty good backs.

Now, passing wise, we're protecting Craft pretty well, and Chow is using some roll outs to help, too (along with some quick pass plays). But that also puts the ball in our primary culprit's hands: Craft.

Craft was much better when Paulsen, his likely #1 safety valve and a difficult target to cover, was out there in the beginning. We're really missing him now, out with the ankle injury, and they just said Paulsen won't be back this game.

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I believe that was the football equivalent of monkeys typing Shakespeare.

It was the best of times, it was the blorst of times.

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 09:28 PM

Good call. No catch. Fantastic throw, though. Maybe this Crompton kid ain't so bad.

JonInMiddleGA · 09-01-2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Good call. No catch. Fantastic throw, though. Maybe this Crompton kid ain't so bad.

13/28 for 143 & a pick. Don't get carried away

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

13/28 for 143 & a pick. Don't get carried away

Heh, true enough. To be fair, though, I really think that UCLA's defense got a lot of unfair "down" talk in the offseason because of losing Bruce Davis and the entire starting secondary. But it is actually a very good defense that might end up even better this year. We were very deep in the seconday and the recruiting class there was great, Carter is the most talented middlebacker we have had since Justin London, Alterraun Verner was actually a bit better than either of our four year starters at corner last year, and the broadcasting team is rightly pointing out how terrific the tackle duo of Harwell-Price is. Verner, Price, Harwell, Carter and Moore (at least) should be playing in the NFL soon.

And Crompton's not getting much help from his line (although they're playing better now). And he looks much, much better than Craft.

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 09:37 PM

Look, ma! An offensive score!

JonInMiddleGA · 09-01-2008, 09:48 PM

Looks like a baaad call.

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 09:48 PM

That was a safety. Great play by UT. Bad call by the refs.

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 09:49 PM

BTW, UT was favored by 7. Think the bettors are a little worried what to make of this one right now?

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 09:49 PM

I don't know how they review that and come up with the same call. Seemed obvious to me.

SirFozzie · 09-01-2008, 09:50 PM

I reiterate my question from earlier:

Does anyone want to win this game?

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 09:51 PM

Wow. That offside.

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 09:53 PM

But UT has a nice punt return and are looking good right now to add more than they would have gotten from a safety and a long drive.

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Wow. That offside.

I will offer this up once more.

SirFozzie · 09-01-2008, 09:54 PM

Ok. End the game. Give both teams a L and move on

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Wow. That offside.

Ok, I'll just keep quoting this time every time UT shoots itself in the foot.

JonInMiddleGA · 09-01-2008, 09:56 PM

Still can't f'n block anybody. Still making the same mental mistakes, Foster back to fumbling, finally hit a FG and get a delay of game. This shit is getting very old. All that's left to return to some of the recent horrors is for the defense to start arm tackling again.

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 10:02 PM

I owe bhlloy an apology. His early criticism is spot on. There was no reason for Craft to be throwing far downfield. He is doing well with the rinky-dink.

Dr. Sak · 09-01-2008, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I don't know how they review that and come up with the same call. Seemed obvious to me.

Disagree. The forward most point of the ball reached the goalline when the forward progress was stopped.

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Disagree. The forward most point of the ball reached the goalline when the forward progress was stopped.

Really? I didn't see that. I thought the ball was clearly still in the endzone when his knee hit and that the ball didn't progress forward out into the field of play until the second surge after the knee touch. But I have been looking back and forth between the screen and the computer, so maybe I missed a better replay (the one I saw was from slightly behind Carter).

Dr. Sak · 09-01-2008, 10:07 PM

What a catch!

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 10:07 PM

Wow, you're kidding me.

Dr. Sak · 09-01-2008, 10:07 PM

This is great!

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 10:08 PM

Who is this guy? Where is Kevin Craft?

WTF am I talking about? Who the F cares where the real Craft is!

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

This is great!

Glad this game could get more entertaining for once. Broadcasters are saying right now how terrific it is for Craft to turn this around and what it says about his character. I agree 100%.

BTW, I don't think that should be a TD.

Chief Rum · 09-01-2008, 10:10 PM

Huh, they made it stand. Okay, Dr. Sak, tell me how that stands? I am actually curious. Maybe I don't understand the rule.

JonInMiddleGA · 09-01-2008, 10:10 PM

Should have fired Fat Phil & the consistently clueless John Chavis a long time ago. Instead, the idiots in charge of the money gave the Fat One an extension to ensure continued seasons of mediocrity, spotty recruiting, and unconscionable losses. There ought to be a moving fan in front of the sorry son of a bitch's house when he gets back to Knoxville.

And the same is true even if they somehow get a miracle & rally.

Dr. Sak · 09-01-2008, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Huh, they made it stand. Okay, Dr. Sak, tell me how that stands? I am actually curious. Maybe I don't understand the rule.

The goalline extends out of bounds. Even though the ball was in his right hand and out of bounds he wasn't out of bounds yet (by touching anywhere out of bounds) so it is a TD.

Dr. Sak · 09-01-2008, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Really? I didn't see that. I thought the ball was clearly still in the endzone when his knee hit and that the ball didn't progress forward out into the field of play until the second surge after the knee touch. But I have been looking back and forth between the screen and the computer, so maybe I missed a better replay (the one I saw was from slightly behind Carter).

From what I saw I thought his initial surge got him near or right on the goalline then he was pushed back. Rule of thumb for us officials is to give the offensive guy the benefit of the doubt that he got out unless there is no question he was stopped in the endzone.

Dr. Sak · 09-01-2008, 10:15 PM

Facemask

RPI-Fan · 09-01-2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

From what I saw I thought his initial surge got him near or right on the goalline then he was pushed back. Rule of thumb for us officials is to give the offensive guy the benefit of the doubt that he got out unless there is no question he was stopped in the endzone.

That seems pretty f'ing stupid to me. Why assume one thing or other instead of just calling it as accurately as possible?

Dr. Sak · 09-01-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

That seems pretty f'ing stupid to me. Why assume one thing or other instead of just calling it as accurately as possible?

I don't have the luxury or instant replay like they do so that's just what we are told.

09-01-2008, 08:43 PM	#303
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Wow wow wow __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

09-01-2008, 08:43 PM	#304
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	lol...can't say that's much of a shocker. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

09-01-2008, 08:44 PM	#306
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	I have seen this before over the last couple of years. I think teams should avoid playing on Labor Day at all costs. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

09-01-2008, 08:49 PM	#307
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I wish I could blame Labor Day, but, really, JIMG is right on. This is our third stringer. And Macro is right that if he were the stud you would like to see there, he wouldn't have left SDSU, even if eh didn't see eye to eye with Chuck Long. I think what I am disappointed by is that there should be more poise and intelligence exhibited with these passes. I didn't expect the kid to light it up, especially against a great D like Tennessee, but I thought with his past D1 experience, he wouldn't look like a shell-shocked freshman. And that's what he looks like right now. It's odd for me to say this, because I am not a big fan of his, but if Olson is healthy, we're up a couple TDs right now. Instead, we're down by one score, and we really don't have an option to go to after this guy. So Craft has to figure it out now. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

09-01-2008, 09:17 PM	#312
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Just a question. Does anyone want to WIN this game? __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

09-01-2008, 08:43 PM	#302
JetsIn06 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rahway, NJ	Wow

09-01-2008, 08:44 PM	#305
Vegas Vic Checkraising Tourists Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cocoa Beach, FL	What's the NCAA record for most interceptions thrown in a game?

09-01-2008, 08:51 PM	#309
Vegas Vic Checkraising Tourists Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cocoa Beach, FL	Craft is 7 out of 18 for 66 yards, 0 TD's and 4 INT's. His NCAA passing efficiency rating in the 1st half is 25.2 (using the NFL formula, it is 10.1)

09-01-2008, 09:18 PM	#313
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Unbelievable. Giving up the third down turned out to be the best thing for UCLA, since we forced the fumble on the next play. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

09-01-2008, 09:20 PM	#317
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Wow, good pass, great catch, great hit. Whoda thunk that play happens in this game? __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

09-01-2008, 09:25 PM	#319
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	It's funny, really, because we're in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation with our respective offensive issues. We came in with huge offensive line issues. My read is that passing offense, our line is quite a bit better than expected. But we're just as bad running it with this line as expected. We're getting outmuscled by the Tenn D-line. Result is, we can't run it, even though we have some pretty good backs. Now, passing wise, we're protecting Craft pretty well, and Chow is using some roll outs to help, too (along with some quick pass plays). But that also puts the ball in our primary culprit's hands: Craft. Craft was much better when Paulsen, his likely #1 safety valve and a difficult target to cover, was out there in the beginning. We're really missing him now, out with the ankle injury, and they just said Paulsen won't be back this game. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

09-01-2008, 09:28 PM	#321
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Good call. No catch. Fantastic throw, though. Maybe this Crompton kid ain't so bad. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

09-01-2008, 09:37 PM	#324
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Look, ma! An offensive score! __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

09-01-2008, 09:48 PM	#325
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Looks like a baaad call. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

09-01-2008, 09:48 PM	#326
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	That was a safety. Great play by UT. Bad call by the refs. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

09-01-2008, 09:49 PM	#327
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	BTW, UT was favored by 7. Think the bettors are a little worried what to make of this one right now? __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

09-01-2008, 09:49 PM	#328
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I don't know how they review that and come up with the same call. Seemed obvious to me. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

09-01-2008, 09:50 PM	#329
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	I reiterate my question from earlier: Does anyone want to win this game? __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

09-01-2008, 09:51 PM	#330
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Wow. That offside. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready. Last edited by Chief Rum : 09-01-2008 at 09:52 PM.

09-01-2008, 09:53 PM	#331
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	But UT has a nice punt return and are looking good right now to add more than they would have gotten from a safety and a long drive. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

09-01-2008, 09:54 PM	#333
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Ok. End the game. Give both teams a L and move on __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

09-01-2008, 09:56 PM	#335
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Still can't f'n block anybody. Still making the same mental mistakes, Foster back to fumbling, finally hit a FG and get a delay of game. This shit is getting very old. All that's left to return to some of the recent horrors is for the defense to start arm tackling again. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

09-01-2008, 10:02 PM	#336
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I owe bhlloy an apology. His early criticism is spot on. There was no reason for Craft to be throwing far downfield. He is doing well with the rinky-dink. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

09-01-2008, 10:07 PM	#339
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	What a catch!

09-01-2008, 10:07 PM	#340
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Wow, you're kidding me. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

09-01-2008, 10:07 PM	#341
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	This is great!

09-01-2008, 10:08 PM	#342
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Who is this guy? Where is Kevin Craft? WTF am I talking about? Who the F cares where the real Craft is! __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

09-01-2008, 10:10 PM	#344
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Huh, they made it stand. Okay, Dr. Sak, tell me how that stands? I am actually curious. Maybe I don't understand the rule. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

09-01-2008, 10:10 PM	#345
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Should have fired Fat Phil & the consistently clueless John Chavis a long time ago. Instead, the idiots in charge of the money gave the Fat One an extension to ensure continued seasons of mediocrity, spotty recruiting, and unconscionable losses. There ought to be a moving fan in front of the sorry son of a bitch's house when he gets back to Knoxville. And the same is true even if they somehow get a miracle & rally. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

09-01-2008, 10:15 PM	#348
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Facemask

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