Mixed Martial Arts Thread (UFC and others)

[PilotMan]

I wish it was dos Anjos/Alvarez on Saturday instead of tonight.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

I wish it was dos Anjos/Alvarez on Saturday instead of tonight.

Would be a great change

If McGregor Diaz were to suddenly switch to Saturday, I would laugh at the absurdity of the path that fight took to get to UFC 200.

[molson]

TMZ, who are usually good sources for UFC stuff, says that the UFC is considering Dan Henderson, Anderson Silva, and Gegard Mousasi to replace Jones this weekend. Mousasi is the most boring choice, and also the only one that isn't completely insane.

[Flasch186]

They should just write it off and let DC go til 202 and make that the super event
Shit happens

[PilotMan]

Looking forward to seeing Lesnar in the cage again, but I think Hunt is going to catch my man coming in and it's going to be lights out. Lesnar is notoriously aggressive and Hunt could totally catch him coming in. I still want to see Lesnar get that takedown and close it out like he did against Mir.

[PilotMan]

God Dos Anjos is a tough motherfucker, but holy shit, I just howled like a girl when that fight finished!

Spoiler

Eddie went through so much of his career not getting the respect that he deserved. He fought his ass off in Strikeforce and Bellator. Tonight he finally gets the rewards he's earned. Woooohooooooo!

[PilotMan]

UFC 200

Anderson Silva v. DC

Tate/Nunes moved to main event.

[PilotMan]

quad dola

So I just got all caught up on my back episodes of The Ultimate Fighter for tonight. Very much looking forward to this finale. The title fight might be one of the most entertaining fights of the entire weekend. The last time these two went at it, it was an all out, non-stop war.

On top of that, I may just buy UFC 200, which is something I haven't done in years.

[molson]

This has been such a crazy 8 months or so in MMA.

[Suicane75]

I haven't been paying a ton of attention to UFC lately, and in the grand scheme of things it doesn't much matter, but is Tate/Nunes really worthy of going on last?

[molson]

Originally Posted by Suicane75

I haven't been paying a ton of attention to UFC lately, and in the grand scheme of things it doesn't much matter, but is Tate/Nunes really worthy of going on last?

Not really, but there's a few reasons it makes sense. It's the only 5-round fight for a undisputed championship on the card, and they like to have those last. And it would be kind of strange if the person standing tall at the end of their biggest show was either a guy who isn't under contract beyond this fight or a 42-year old heavyweight who isn't a top contender anymore. And the women's bantamweight division is becoming a bigger deal, the winner of Nunes/Tate is likely to face Rousey later this year, and there's speculation that Rousey will be in Vegas to plant seeds for that (since her boyfriend his fighting on the main card too.) And Tate and Nunes both usually have exciting fights - Hunt/Lesnar could be quick, or just boring if both guys gas early.

Cormier/Anderson or Aldo/Edgar could have main evented too. I don't think the order matters too much, it's really just up to luck how the night goes and whether it feels like momentum is building throughout. It's probably the sign of a compelling card that 4 of 5 fights could arguably main event it, and almost every fight down through the Fight Pass prelmins could probably main event or co-main event a Fight Night show.

[murrayyyyy]

Tate match almost got pulled. She finally made weight exactly at the 10 AM cut off just now. Johny Hendricks missed (AGAIN) by .25 lbs and got his check cut but 20%.

Bet on Nunez just because of Tate's problems making weight for the fight.

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by molson

Not really, but there's a few reasons it makes sense. It's the only 5-round fight for a undisputed championship on the card, and they like to have those last. And it would be kind of strange if the person standing tall at the end of their biggest show was either a guy who isn't under contract beyond this fight or a 42-year old heavyweight who isn't a top contender anymore. And the women's bantamweight division is becoming a bigger deal, the winner of Nunes/Tate is likely to face Rousey later this year, and there's speculation that Rousey will be in Vegas to plant seeds for that (since her boyfriend his fighting on the main card too.) And Tate and Nunes both usually have exciting fights - Hunt/Lesnar could be quick, or just boring if both guys gas early.

Cormier/Anderson or Aldo/Edgar could have main evented too. I don't think the order matters too much, it's really just up to luck how the night goes and whether it feels like momentum is building throughout. It's probably the sign of a compelling card that 4 of 5 fights could arguably main event it, and almost every fight down through the Fight Pass prelmins could probably main event or co-main event a Fight Night show.

This.

It's happened to me multiple times in WMMA, where I have to put a title fight at the top, when the main draw is second. Anderson couldn't go 5, Brock couldn't go 5, so it only made sense to move that to the top.

There are a lot of good fighters on this card. It's pretty heavy top to bottom with quality fights for hard core fans. That makes it much more compelling as a fight in years, and more compelling to watch in real time rather than on the DVR.

[molson]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

Tate match almost got pulled. She finally made weight exactly at the 10 AM cut off just now. Johny Hendricks missed (AGAIN) by .25 lbs and got his check cut but 20%.

Bet on Nunez just because of Tate's problems making weight for the fight.

And Anderson weighed in at 198.5 with his clothes on, and Cormier looked emaciated at 206. Cormier will probably gain 20+ lbs back by tomorrow night and is going to look massive v. Anderson.

[EagleFan]

The televised prelims have been rather boring so far tonight. Hopefully the main card is better.

[EagleFan]

Well this fight is much better than the rest; maybe I just need to complain more.

[EagleFan]

Whoa, that punch came out of nowhere.

[PilotMan]

In case there was any doubt, Jones "B" sample came back positive too.

[EagleFan]

Much respect to Choi, not that often when the winner says the ref stopped it too soon.

I think it was a hard call for the ref. He makes the call to stop it as soon as the punch connected when he was down and at that point his arms went flat and it looked like he was out. He then seemed to pop back awake and started to cover up but the ref had already made the decision to stop it. If the ref waits and allows another bomb to land and if the fighter was still limp the ref would have been criticized for letting it go too long.

I don't think it's that often when someone goes that limp and then pops back to action (seemed like a pause button was hit) that quickly. Generally when they go that limp it's over.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

In case there was any doubt, Jones "B" sample came back positive too.

Third time's the charm?

[EagleFan]

Looking forward to this main event. May be the best fight of the weekend.

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Much respect to Choi, not that often when the winner says the ref stopped it too soon.

I think it was a hard call for the ref. He makes the call to stop it as soon as the punch connected when he was down and at that point his arms went flat and it looked like he was out. He then seemed to pop back awake and started to cover up but the ref had already made the decision to stop it. If the ref waits and allows another bomb to land and if the fighter was still limp the ref would have been criticized for letting it go too long.

I don't think it's that often when someone goes that limp and then pops back to action (seemed like a pause button was hit) that quickly. Generally when they go that limp it's over.

That ref had just watched the previous fight where the dude took 5 or 6 shots after he was out so he was ready to not look that shitty.

[PilotMan]

Brooks in a full camp destroys Pearson.

[EagleFan]

Hope Claudia makes her tap.

[EagleFan]

Nice knockdown, I guess a knockout would be even better than a submission. Beat her at her own game.

[EagleFan]

Round one to Claudia.

[EagleFan]

Round two to Claudia

[EagleFan]

Close but I would say round three to Joanna. Claudia is looking exhausted.

[EagleFan]

Round four to Joanna. Comes down to the final round but I don't think Claudia has enough left.

[EagleFan]

Joanna won the last round. Should be 48-47 for the champ. A tale of two fights.

[EagleFan]

How were there 10-8 rounds in that fight?

[PilotMan]

The 4th could have been 10-8 for Johanna. She landed at will and Claudia really was trying to catch her breath.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

The 4th could have been 10-8 for Johanna. She landed at will and Claudia really was trying to catch her breath.

I tend to lean to 10-8 if there is a knockdown.

If the 4th was 10-8 I could see the 1st as 10-8 as she controlled that round (and knocked her down to start it).

[PilotMan]

In boxing yes, I agree, but since they adjusted the scoring she dominated punches, cage control, aggression and damage. In mma that's a 10-8 round.

[bhlloy]

A few thoughts - firstly the ref was absolutely right in the Choi fight, that guy was out like a light no matter how quickly he popped back up. Nearly a scary moment in the women's TUF final as the ref couldn't see the tap, I don't know if it's up to the other fighter to back off (and she might have been telling the ref that she was tapping to be fair) but that's got the be the UFCs worst nightmare where somebody gets seriously choked out and the ref misses the tap.

Jedreczyk is damn good. To be able to be landing those kind of strikes in the championship rounds is pretty elite.

Finally, does anyone else feel it might be time to start sun setting the ultimate fighter series? The quality has been pretty poor and that men's fight tonight was awful, I'm not sure either of those guys will ever be any more than filler.

[Suicane75]

I think I tapped out on TUF about 5 years ago. Shit, I probably couldn't name an active fighter on the bottom 50% of the roster already, let alone give a shit about guys below that level.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

In boxing yes, I agree, but since they adjusted the scoring she dominated punches, cage control, aggression and damage. In mma that's a 10-8 round.

But they should have done the same for round one. Instead they tend to look only at strikes instead of control.

[JonInMiddleGA]

UFC fighter yells at mom to ‘Shut up!’ during fight | For The Win

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

A

Finally, does anyone else feel it might be time to start sun setting the ultimate fighter series? The quality has been pretty poor and that men's fight tonight was awful, I'm not sure either of those guys will ever be any more than filler.

I've watched the last 4-5 years worth, and I've really enjoyed them. The Mrs even get's into it, especially when the women are involved. To be fair to the guys last night, the guy who won was fighting at 205, is really a 185er who was giving away almost 30 pounds on fight night.

His opponent is really green on the ground, but his standup was some of the slickest and hardest around. Reminded me of Cheick Kongo.

The entire women's 115lb division is former TUF fighters. It's been a good series. I can't see it going away anytime soon. Besides, they still keep pulling names out, like Tony Ferguson. The woman who won TUF last night could absolutely be fighting for the title sooner than later. Maybe another 3-4 fights and she'd be ready.

[PilotMan]

My ass is parked in front of the TV for the next 7 hours. This should be enjoyable.

[molson]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

My ass is parked in front of the TV for the next 7 hours. This should be enjoyable.

+1

Girlfriend out of town, beer and pizza are here.

[thesloppy]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

UFC fighter yells at mom to ‘Shut up!’ during fight | For The Win

He got his ass whooped, which makes me think he could've better spent his energy on defending himself...but at the same time I can also empathize with how much it must absolutely suck to get your ass kicked while you're mom's yelling at you.

[thesloppy]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

My ass is parked in front of the TV for the next 7 hours. This should be enjoyable.

Yeah, there simply HAS to be some great fights on tonight. I'm jacked for Sanchez/Lauzon, though I don't know how/if/when I'll actually see it.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

He got his ass whooped, which makes me think he could've better spent his energy on defending himself...but at the same time I can also empathize with how much it must absolutely suck to get your ass kicked while you're mom's yelling at you.

I kinda wondered if maybe Mom was trash talking the guy beating his ass or something

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

Yeah, there simply HAS to be some great fights on tonight. I'm jacked for Sanchez/Lauzon, though I don't know how/if/when I'll actually see it.

Start the free 7 day Fight Pass Sub right now, and watch it! Cancel Fights pass within 7 days! Problem solved!

[PilotMan]

Mousasi actually had an exciting fight!

[thesloppy]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I kinda wondered if maybe Mom was trash talking the guy beating his ass or something

Yeah. In her defense, I'm also trying to come up with ANYTHING that my mom could yell in that situation which wouldn't bother me, and I'm coming up short. I guess it's still better than dudes who bring their toddlers to fights....we always see the happy ones get called/carried into the ring by the victorious fighter, but I can only imagine that decision's resulted in some tragedy/comedy for several losing fighters & their families over the years.

[molson]

Mousasi is really good, but his career trajectory will be limited by the fact that he always looks bored.

[PilotMan]

Not only looks, he fights board. He's so technical, his lack energy and emotion in the cage completely means he'll never fight for the title unless he runs off like 10 in a row against ranked guys.

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

I'm jacked for Sanchez/Lauzon, though I don't know how/if/when I'll actually see it.

DID NOT DISAPPOINT! Unless you're a really, really big fan of one of them.