WW CXXXIX - The Red Death II - GAME OVER, SERVANTS WIN - Page 74

Autumn · 10-13-2011, 09:42 PM

All right, well I've already made the point that I don't think I was a good converstoin target. Danny and CF were voting me, I'd made a last second switch onto NTN that could be construed as the classic safe wolf switch.

But let's say I was converted. Day three i vote Zinto up 9-7. Even before that I made clear that I was not going to be voting Thomkal. There was no reason I couldn't have voted Thomkal then, or earlier in the game. Instead I made a decisive vote well before CF and Jackal piled on at the last minute. Zinto was not a dead man at that point, so not a wolf move.

Day 5 I switched around as reveals had happened, but once Sndvls cast doubt on EF, I pushed hard for an EF vote. I switched to Bug at the end to give some space to avoid a tie. The wolves knew there was a triple vote on Bug, so there was no reason for a wolf to move there. I could have just stayed on EF and then been able to say I was voting a wolf, not the seer. I didn't because it didn't make sense (I continue to say) to tie it up there.

Day 6 I went with the tie plan. I was the one who tied it up when Mckerney and Commo didn't go along with it.

Day 8 I suggested leaving mauboy for another night to try to make a block. No way a wolf sticks themselves out there at the end of the day like that rather than just get the BG kill and move on.

I'm sure there's more, but there's some.

Oh also I was public about my items. I told the village what the camphor did, which could have saved a villager who had the same item. I passed a dangerous item to a known wolf to try to kill him.

That's about it righ tnow.

Commo_Soldier · 10-13-2011, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Lol, I think I linked several wolves together on D1 in that game. They made a classic wolf mistake and I was the only one who caught it. It earned me a N1 kill.

Heck the night/day I passed you the Sprig of Holly I went back and forth, sending Abe 4 PMs on who to pass it too. I started on you then got really nervous you were possibly a wolf, so I went to jackal with you as a backup, then I got nervous about Jackal and went to Thomakal with you as a backup, finally I just decided on you after your answer to the question although you were answering a different question apparently.

Autumn · 10-13-2011, 09:45 PM

J23, why not Commo? You think he's too out there to be a wolf?

J23 · 10-13-2011, 09:45 PM

Ok, so back to my supposed timeline of trying to track down when the conversions happened.

Day 1:
Wolves: Eaglefan, NtnDeacon, Zinto
Village lynches Ntn

Night 1:
Zinto corrupts Narc (or someone else)
SnDvls follows Gram
Wolves NK bhlloy (Found in river eaten - has to be EF's kill)

Day 2:
Wolves: EF, Zinto, Narc/Other
Village lynches Saldana

Night 2:
Wolves NK Lathum (eaten, huge bites out of him - probably EF again.)
SnDvls follows Hoops
Zinto corrupts someone else here? With EF doing the NK's, it's definately possible.
Bug scans Jackal, Danny

Day 3:
Wolves: EF, Zinto, Narc, Other?
SnDvls follows Autumn
Village lynches Zinto

Night 3:
Wolves NK Danny (torn in 3 pieces, consumed - could be EF again)
Bug scans mauboy1
Probably not another conversion w/ Zinto dead.

Day 4:
Wolves: EF, Narc, Other?
SnDvls follows Hoops
Village lynches Raiders Army

Night 4:
Wolves NK Dzilla - (face chewed off, EF?), Crimsonfox - Snapped neck (other wolf)
Bug scans Narcizo

Day 5:
Wolves: EF, Narc, Other?
Village lynches Bug

Night 5:
Wolves NK SnDvls

Day 6:
Wolves: EF, Narc, Other?
Village lynches Narc

Night 6:
Wolves NK Grammaticus
*If EF is the only wolf left, does he nightkill as well as convert here?

Day 7:
Wolves: EF, Other
Village lynches EF, EF kills ChiefRum

Night 7:
Wolves NK Grammaticus

Night 8:
Wolvs NK Hoopsguy

Day 9:
Wolves: Other

Night 9:
Wolves NK Jackal

dubb93 · 10-13-2011, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

J23, why not Commo? You think he's too out there to be a wolf?

I suspect with as close to the deadline as we are that J23 could be a wolf waiting until the last minute. He at least isn't going to give us any time to think about his vote, which will likely be damning at this point.

J23 · 10-13-2011, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

J23, why not Commo? You think he's too out there to be a wolf?

Yeah, I don't think he plays this out in the open as a wolf honestly.

J23 · 10-13-2011, 09:47 PM

Vote mckerney

Still enough time for stuff to move around Dubb. BTW, why are you getting the free pass today and asking everyone else to explain why they're bad picks to be lynched tonight?

Autumn · 10-13-2011, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by J23

Yeah, I don't think he plays this out in the open as a wolf honestly.

My problem is, who plays this out in the open as a villager? I mean I read back through nearly all of his posts today and I just can't imagine why a villager makes half of them.

Commo_Soldier · 10-13-2011, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

All right, well I've already made the point that I don't think I was a good converstoin target. Danny and CF were voting me, I'd made a last second switch onto NTN that could be construed as the classic safe wolf switch.

But let's say I was converted. Day three i vote Zinto up 9-7. Even before that I made clear that I was not going to be voting Thomkal. There was no reason I couldn't have voted Thomkal then, or earlier in the game. Instead I made a decisive vote well before CF and Jackal piled on at the last minute. Zinto was not a dead man at that point, so not a wolf move.

Day 5 I switched around as reveals had happened, but once Sndvls cast doubt on EF, I pushed hard for an EF vote. I switched to Bug at the end to give some space to avoid a tie. The wolves knew there was a triple vote on Bug, so there was no reason for a wolf to move there. I could have just stayed on EF and then been able to say I was voting a wolf, not the seer. I didn't because it didn't make sense (I continue to say) to tie it up there.

Day 6 I went with the tie plan. I was the one who tied it up when Mckerney and Commo didn't go along with it.

Day 8 I suggested leaving mauboy for another night to try to make a block. No way a wolf sticks themselves out there at the end of the day like that rather than just get the BG kill and move on.

I'm sure there's more, but there's some.

Oh also I was public about my items. I told the village what the camphor did, which could have saved a villager who had the same item. I passed a dangerous item to a known wolf to try to kill him.

That's about it righ tnow.

What makes a good target for conversion? If they had to do all converting in the first two days wouldn't a person voting for NTN be a bad target as everyone was thinking one of them would be converted?

As for Day 5 why did you push hard for EF based on SN who was not willing to say what specifically was too much? When people thought there could be two detectives. Which I'm going to look for now as the first person to bring that up might have been a wolf in a subtle way.

J23 · 10-13-2011, 09:49 PM

The item pass to who he thought might be the lifegiver also makes me steer away from him as a suspect.

Commo_Soldier · 10-13-2011, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

My problem is, who plays this out in the open as a villager? I mean I read back through nearly all of his posts today and I just can't imagine why a villager makes half of them.

Because I was convinced Bug had been or was possibly converted on his statements. A villager goes after who ever they get a bad read on regardless if it is a wolf or villager.

Autumn · 10-13-2011, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

What makes a good target for conversion? If they had to do all converting in the first two days wouldn't a person voting for NTN be a bad target as everyone was thinking one of them would be converted?

As for Day 5 why did you push hard for EF based on SN who was not willing to say what specifically was too much? When people thought there could be two detectives. Which I'm going to look for now as the first person to bring that up might have been a wolf in a subtle way.

I asked him to clarify, and he did htat, that his PMs had even less detail than EF was giving. Ithink he was trying to avoi getting too metagame by explaining exactly what his PMs were like, which is frowned on around here. But if he found a discrepancy, that was enough for me. It seemed a stretch to think there were two detectives after that idea had already been floated around as an excuse for him.

A good target for a conversion would be someone who's not going to get a lot of attention early in the game. An NTN voter would be great, but not a last minute one who looks like he's piling on.

J23 · 10-13-2011, 09:51 PM

BTW, night 4 was the first time we had the broken neck kill (the double NK night), so the conversion must have happened prior to that, and with Zinto being lynched on day3, we either have 2 wolves left atm or someone was converted on night 1 & 2 both I think (one of which was Narc).

mckerney · 10-13-2011, 09:52 PM

Well, hopefully luck will finally strike with the flame tonight, though I'll be dead tomorrow even if we do so at least I'll get to head over to the gloat thread.

Autumn · 10-13-2011, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J23

The item pass to who he thought might be the lifegiver also makes me steer away from him as a suspect.

I can see that. But my paranoid part says maybe he's the lifegiver. Or Nrac was the lifegiver. So then why not pass the item for trust. Or maybe he knew that wasn't what it did and so he wasn't worried about it, but thought it might out the lifegiver. To me there's too many outs for that to be a fool proof scenario.

When did that pass happen?

J23 · 10-13-2011, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

A good target for a conversion would be someone who's not going to get a lot of attention early in the game. An NTN voter would be great, but not a last minute one who looks like he's piling on.

I've been thinking about this a lot today, and I don't know that I agree. I think the best conversion target is someone who helps the village a good amount and yet won't be voted for often. That's why I was really wanting to look at your history, but now that I think about it more, Dubb would fit the bill as well.

Commo_Soldier · 10-13-2011, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

I could definitely see there being two detectives, if there are two of any role, but it lowers EF a little on the trust scale.

Well that person is already dead.

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Originally Posted by Autumn

That's true, but if the seer converted himself, I'm presuming that's what he's seen. If the wolves converted bug, I agree, he would have just seen bug "scanning," or casting a spell or whatever it's supposed to look like.

Hmm, seems you could be thinking Bug is bad there autumn, why push him?

hoopsguy · 10-13-2011, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

Well, hopefully luck will finally strike with the flame tonight, though I'll be dead tomorrow even if we do so at least I'll get to head over to the gloat thread.

Please stop in the "vent" thread first ... that "gloat" thread is having a negative impact on my plans for the "vent" thread to top 10,000 posts.

J23 · 10-13-2011, 09:54 PM

What's our vote count btw?

Commo_Soldier · 10-13-2011, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

I asked him to clarify, and he did htat, that his PMs had even less detail than EF was giving. Ithink he was trying to avoi getting too metagame by explaining exactly what his PMs were like, which is frowned on around here. But if he found a discrepancy, that was enough for me. It seemed a stretch to think there were two detectives after that idea had already been floated around as an excuse for him.

A good target for a conversion would be someone who's not going to get a lot of attention early in the game. An NTN voter would be great, but not a last minute one who looks like he's piling on.

Yeah "seeing nothing suspicious" is way too much info. That is all SN ever got as he said he never saw anything, but wouldn't ever say why those three words were too much.

Unvote McKerney
Vote Autumn

To see what happens

Autumn · 10-13-2011, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

Well that person is already dead.

Hmm, seems you could be thinking Bug is bad there autumn, why push him?

I'm not sure what yo'ure asking. I think I was saying that it seems unlikely that if you watched the target of the conversion that you would see a conversion. YOu would just see what that target did.

dubb93 · 10-13-2011, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J23

What's our vote count btw?

McKearney 2 - Commo, Dubb
Commo 2 - Mckerney, Autumn

Commo_Soldier · 10-13-2011, 09:56 PM

I think votes are

2 McKerney - J23, Dubb
2 Commo - Autumn, McKerney
1 Autum - Commo

Autumn · 10-13-2011, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

Yeah "seeing nothing suspicious" is way too much info. That is all SN ever got as he said he never saw anything, but wouldn't ever say why those three words were too much.

Yes, maybe it was too much. Sndvls was the detective, and EF was the wolf, so obviously Sndvls was right, right?

J23 · 10-13-2011, 09:56 PM

I voted McKerney above Dubb, so it's now 2-2-1 apparently.

dubb93 · 10-13-2011, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J23

Vote mckerney

Still enough time for stuff to move around Dubb. BTW, why are you getting the free pass today and asking everyone else to explain why they're bad picks to be lynched tonight?

As I said earlier. B/C I'm awesome.

Autumn · 10-13-2011, 09:57 PM

Ties would be bad with one wolf left.

unvote commo
vote mckerney

mckerney · 10-13-2011, 09:57 PM

Unvote Commo

dubb93 · 10-13-2011, 09:57 PM

What a mess.

Commo_Soldier · 10-13-2011, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

I'm not sure what yo'ure asking. I think I was saying that it seems unlikely that if you watched the target of the conversion that you would see a conversion. YOu would just see what that target did.

Saying that you were not sold on Bug, which is my point. Very few people were, even the BG knew there was a wolf and still voted for Bug. My making arguments against him was not just me but most people feeling something off.

Autumn · 10-13-2011, 09:58 PM

Well maybe not. Tie?

mckerney · 10-13-2011, 09:58 PM

Not gonna cause a tie here, if I move the vote off of me onto another villager then I probably end up getting lynched tomorrow and that won't do us any good, better I just go down then.

Autumn · 10-13-2011, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

Saying that you were not sold on Bug, which is my point. Very few people were, even the BG knew there was a wolf and still voted for Bug. My making arguments against him was not just me but most people feeling something off.

Yes, I have never stated you were the only one who didn't believe Bug. HE got lynched after all.

Commo_Soldier · 10-13-2011, 09:58 PM

3 McKerney - J23, Dubb, autumn
1 Autum - Commo

Abe Sargent · 10-13-2011, 09:59 PM

Vote Bek

Commo_Soldier · 10-13-2011, 09:59 PM

One minute left

Commo_Soldier · 10-13-2011, 10:00 PM

Time?

Autumn · 10-13-2011, 10:00 PM

Suddenly coming at me once a couple other people say they're wondering about me seems pretty suspect Commo. It seems to me you're setting the scene for tomorrow, knowing Mckerney's not bad. You had all day to suspect me, or ask me about Sndvls, or whatever you want.

J23 · 10-13-2011, 10:00 PM

It'd be nice to catch a break from the flame if we're wrong.

Abe Sargent · 10-13-2011, 10:00 PM

That is time folkses

mckerney · 10-13-2011, 10:00 PM

Come on flame...

Commo_Soldier · 10-13-2011, 10:01 PM

Well, anxious to see what happens as I now am not sure on if it is Autumn or McKerney, but surprised I started off with Autumn as my least likely and ended up as most.

Commo_Soldier · 10-13-2011, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

Suddenly coming at me once a couple other people say they're wondering about me seems pretty suspect Commo. It seems to me you're setting the scene for tomorrow, knowing Mckerney's not bad. You had all day to suspect me, or ask me about Sndvls, or whatever you want.

I was on my phone and working, not really all day. As for Mckerney who knows if he is good or bad, are you saying you do?

dubb93 · 10-13-2011, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

Well, anxious to see what happens as I now am not sure on if it is Autumn or McKerney, but surprised I started off with Autumn as my least likely and ended up as most.

You threw your vote away on a day when there were potentially 2 wolves out there. You aren't a villager. You just made that clear. I just hope it didn't win you the game. You get no more passes from me. If you are a villager then you will have dug your own grave.

mckerney · 10-13-2011, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

I was on my phone and working, not really all day. As for Mckerney who knows if he is good or bad, are you saying you do?

I know!

Autumn · 10-13-2011, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

I was on my phone and working, not really all day. As for Mckerney who knows if he is good or bad, are you saying you do?

I'm saying it certainly seems like you do. Or you just thought you could get a move to more more likely than a move to him.

mckerney · 10-13-2011, 10:03 PM

He's good.

Commo_Soldier · 10-13-2011, 10:03 PM

At a 20% chance of every villager missing the flame if you're good McKerney and don't survive.

Commo_Soldier · 10-13-2011, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

You threw your vote away on a day when there were potentially 2 wolves out there. You aren't a villager. You just made that clear. I just hope it didn't win you the game. You get no more passes from me. If you are a villager then you will have dug your own grave.

Threw it away? I was hoping others would go to Autumn, otherwise it would be all 4 people that voted going for autumn.

Autumn · 10-13-2011, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

I was on my phone and working, not really all day. As for Mckerney who knows if he is good or bad, are you saying you do?

I think you could have come up with a time to vote me before five minutes left. Five minutes left on what could be a game deciding lynch, that's not a good time to pull a new vote out of your hat.

10-13-2011, 09:56 PM	#3673
Commo_Soldier College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: JBLM, WA	I think votes are 2 McKerney - J23, Dubb 2 Commo - Autumn, McKerney 1 Autum - Commo __________________ I killed a wolf and I liked it.

10-13-2011, 09:58 PM	#3684
Commo_Soldier College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: JBLM, WA	3 McKerney - J23, Dubb, autumn 1 Autum - Commo __________________ I killed a wolf and I liked it.

10-13-2011, 09:59 PM	#3685
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Vote Bek __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

10-13-2011, 09:59 PM	#3686
Commo_Soldier College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: JBLM, WA	One minute left __________________ I killed a wolf and I liked it.

10-13-2011, 10:00 PM	#3687
Commo_Soldier College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: JBLM, WA	Time? __________________ I killed a wolf and I liked it.

10-13-2011, 09:42 PM	#3651
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	All right, well I've already made the point that I don't think I was a good converstoin target. Danny and CF were voting me, I'd made a last second switch onto NTN that could be construed as the classic safe wolf switch. But let's say I was converted. Day three i vote Zinto up 9-7. Even before that I made clear that I was not going to be voting Thomkal. There was no reason I couldn't have voted Thomkal then, or earlier in the game. Instead I made a decisive vote well before CF and Jackal piled on at the last minute. Zinto was not a dead man at that point, so not a wolf move. Day 5 I switched around as reveals had happened, but once Sndvls cast doubt on EF, I pushed hard for an EF vote. I switched to Bug at the end to give some space to avoid a tie. The wolves knew there was a triple vote on Bug, so there was no reason for a wolf to move there. I could have just stayed on EF and then been able to say I was voting a wolf, not the seer. I didn't because it didn't make sense (I continue to say) to tie it up there. Day 6 I went with the tie plan. I was the one who tied it up when Mckerney and Commo didn't go along with it. Day 8 I suggested leaving mauboy for another night to try to make a block. No way a wolf sticks themselves out there at the end of the day like that rather than just get the BG kill and move on. I'm sure there's more, but there's some. Oh also I was public about my items. I told the village what the camphor did, which could have saved a villager who had the same item. I passed a dangerous item to a known wolf to try to kill him. That's about it righ tnow.

10-13-2011, 09:45 PM	#3653
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	J23, why not Commo? You think he's too out there to be a wolf?

10-13-2011, 09:45 PM	#3654
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	Ok, so back to my supposed timeline of trying to track down when the conversions happened. Day 1: Wolves: Eaglefan, NtnDeacon, Zinto Village lynches Ntn Night 1: Zinto corrupts Narc (or someone else) SnDvls follows Gram Wolves NK bhlloy (Found in river eaten - has to be EF's kill) Day 2: Wolves: EF, Zinto, Narc/Other Village lynches Saldana Night 2: Wolves NK Lathum (eaten, huge bites out of him - probably EF again.) SnDvls follows Hoops Zinto corrupts someone else here? With EF doing the NK's, it's definately possible. Bug scans Jackal, Danny Day 3: Wolves: EF, Zinto, Narc, Other? SnDvls follows Autumn Village lynches Zinto Night 3: Wolves NK Danny (torn in 3 pieces, consumed - could be EF again) Bug scans mauboy1 Probably not another conversion w/ Zinto dead. Day 4: Wolves: EF, Narc, Other? SnDvls follows Hoops Village lynches Raiders Army Night 4: Wolves NK Dzilla - (face chewed off, EF?), Crimsonfox - Snapped neck (other wolf) Bug scans Narcizo Day 5: Wolves: EF, Narc, Other? Village lynches Bug Night 5: Wolves NK SnDvls Day 6: Wolves: EF, Narc, Other? Village lynches Narc Night 6: Wolves NK Grammaticus *If EF is the only wolf left, does he nightkill as well as convert here? Day 7: Wolves: EF, Other Village lynches EF, EF kills ChiefRum Night 7: Wolves NK Grammaticus Night 8: Wolvs NK Hoopsguy Day 9: Wolves: Other Night 9: Wolves NK Jackal

10-13-2011, 09:47 PM	#3657
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	Vote mckerney Still enough time for stuff to move around Dubb. BTW, why are you getting the free pass today and asking everyone else to explain why they're bad picks to be lynched tonight?

10-13-2011, 09:49 PM	#3660
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	The item pass to who he thought might be the lifegiver also makes me steer away from him as a suspect.

10-13-2011, 09:51 PM	#3663
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	BTW, night 4 was the first time we had the broken neck kill (the double NK night), so the conversion must have happened prior to that, and with Zinto being lynched on day3, we either have 2 wolves left atm or someone was converted on night 1 & 2 both I think (one of which was Narc).

10-13-2011, 09:52 PM	#3664
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Well, hopefully luck will finally strike with the flame tonight, though I'll be dead tomorrow even if we do so at least I'll get to head over to the gloat thread.

10-13-2011, 09:54 PM	#3669
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	What's our vote count btw?

10-13-2011, 09:56 PM	#3675
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	I voted McKerney above Dubb, so it's now 2-2-1 apparently.

10-13-2011, 09:57 PM	#3677
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Ties would be bad with one wolf left. unvote commo vote mckerney

10-13-2011, 09:57 PM	#3678
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Unvote Commo

10-13-2011, 09:58 PM	#3681
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Well maybe not. Tie?

10-13-2011, 09:58 PM	#3682
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Not gonna cause a tie here, if I move the vote off of me onto another villager then I probably end up getting lynched tomorrow and that won't do us any good, better I just go down then.

10-13-2011, 10:00 PM	#3688
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Suddenly coming at me once a couple other people say they're wondering about me seems pretty suspect Commo. It seems to me you're setting the scene for tomorrow, knowing Mckerney's not bad. You had all day to suspect me, or ask me about Sndvls, or whatever you want.

10-13-2011, 10:00 PM	#3689
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	It'd be nice to catch a break from the flame if we're wrong.

10-13-2011, 10:00 PM	#3690
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	That is time folkses __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

10-13-2011, 10:00 PM	#3691
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Come on flame...

10-13-2011, 10:01 PM	#3692
Commo_Soldier College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: JBLM, WA	Well, anxious to see what happens as I now am not sure on if it is Autumn or McKerney, but surprised I started off with Autumn as my least likely and ended up as most. __________________ I killed a wolf and I liked it.

10-13-2011, 10:03 PM	#3697
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	He's good.

10-13-2011, 10:03 PM	#3698
Commo_Soldier College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: JBLM, WA	At a 20% chance of every villager missing the flame if you're good McKerney and don't survive. __________________ I killed a wolf and I liked it.

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