The Trump Presidency 2.0

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Gonna be fun watching people in red states freak out when they can't get access to porn.

I mean, it's good for the strip clubs isn't it?


That's what I think about in the south. God. Guns. Strip Clubs. All three are deemed integral to the fabric of the area.

[cuervo72]

@jamellebouie.net on Bluesky

Man if we only had a UVa grad around here...

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Lots of bad news in this report for the dems

Behind Trump's 2024 Victory: Turnout, Voting Patterns and Demographics | Pew Research Center

At least they are working hard at changing their perception and offering up a platform for voters to support. Wait, they're spending all their time attacking some guy who won a primary in New York City because he isn't subservient to Israel.

The party is cooked. It'll take a larger than life figure to come along and completely transform it like Trump did.

[RainMaker]

Democrats: We must figure out how to win over young males and minorities.

Candidate: Wins an election out of nowhere with overwhelming support from young men and minorities.

Democrats: Not like that.
wsj.com

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

At least they are working hard at changing their perception and offering up a platform for voters to support. Wait, they're spending all their time attacking some guy who won a primary in New York City because he isn't subservient to Israel.

The party is cooked. It'll take a larger than life figure to come along and completely transform it like Trump did.

I agree that is what it is going to take. I have long thought that. An Obama with a back bone.

[JPhillips]

Mamdani ran a really great campaign. His ground game and social media were on point. I think his ads, where he said that it shouldn't be hard to live in NYC, were really effective.

Meanwhile, Cuomo didn't have much beyond I'm experienced and I have endorsements.

[JPhillips]

dola

I don't think SCOTUS thought that their education ruling is going to eventually end standardized assessment testing. How can students be expected to test on material they aren't required to learn?

[PilotMan]

I feel like the decision to allow parents to opt out of any lesson they disagree with because it maybe touched on something that was lgbt related more or less ends teaching curriculums. They've got RFK saying parents will make all vaccine determinations and want to end it in schools. They've got scotus saying parents have final say in what their child will or will not do in school (for the record, we opted our kids out of any of the dumbass abstinence specific classes, and really, that's born from a religious teaching, not science or health, which lgbt comes from).

We're going to see these lines pushed further, and further, because in the end, it's really just the public schools that suffer. Public admin, public teachers, etc. Because private schools don't need to follow the same rules. That pushes us closer to public funded private schools.

[GrantDawg]

It has always been the goal to destroy public schools. They finally have everything set up to make it happen.

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[flere-imsaho]

Exactly. 100%

Furthermore, it enables the creation of a permanent underclass. Those private schools can be selective, even with public money, and they won't take kids they don't want. And wealthy blue areas can continue to fund their public schools, but the people who live there were already wealthy before they moved there.

Honestly, we're pretty much already there. The gap between well-funded public schools and the rest is significant and only growing, and struggling public systems are being hollowed out by charters and enormous budget deficits, when they aren't already in the process of destroying themselves (hello Chicago Public Schools).

[GrantDawg]

They just want more people to die. And the crazy thing is, the people who are most affected by this are in the reddest areas.


https://www.local10.com/weather/hurricane/2025/06/26/critical-hurricane-forecast-tool-abruptly-terminated/

[Atocep]

Tom Tillis announced he's retiring at the end of his term because of Trump.

[RainMaker]

Kristi Noem Secretly Took Personal Cut of Political Donations — ProPublica

[RainMaker]

Some alarming data for Dems in new Priorities USA polling:

* Nearly half (48%) of Americans haven’t heard anything about the ‘Big, Beautiful Bill.’

* Only 8% of all Americans name Medicaid cuts as a detail of the bill they have heard about.

— Sam Stein (@samstein) June 30, 2025

[Atocep]

The president of the united states tweeted at AT&T asking for tech support.

[Danny]

Time to get Trump in a can you hear me now commercial

[Edward64]

Musk shreds Trump’s tax bill as ‘DEBT SLAVERY,’ vows to unseat Republicans who back it

Love it. Let’s see how really serious he is

[Ksyrup]

Originally Posted by Atocep

The president of the united states tweeted at AT&T asking for tech support.

President Karen asked for AT&T's manager.

[Ghost Econ]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Some alarming data for Dems in new Priorities USA polling:

* Nearly half (48%) of Americans haven’t heard anything about the ‘Big, Beautiful Bill.’

* Only 8% of all Americans name Medicaid cuts as a detail of the bill they have heard about.

— Sam Stein (@samstein) June 30, 2025

You can't force people to listen to things they don't care about.

[bhlloy]

There's many layers to unpack there, I'd be very interested in seeing the methodology for that survey as well as a very healthy dose of skepticism that traditional polling methods mean much of anything these days (my first job after I moved to the US was for a sample provider).

However if you take that at face value, my thoughts are (not necessarily in order):
1) We're absolutely fucked.
2) Lots of people who think they don't care about a thing are going to start to really care about a thing in a few months.

[GrantDawg]

Trump said today that they might have to "take a look" at drporting Musk. He also suggested DOGE might look at cutting Musk's government contracts.

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[bhlloy]

That might break more necks of people across the political spectrum as they contort to fit positions they’ve been howling about for the last 6 months faster than any other news event in history.

[GrantDawg]

They have now fully funded Trump's Gestapo.

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[JonInMiddleGA]

A watered down bill that accomplishes little and leaves the most idiotic shit intact (tip tax exemption I'm looking at you).

Yippee, what a "victory"

[Lathum]

shamelessness is their super power.

NOEM: We love everybody. We do

TRUMP: Not everybody

NOEM: Mr President, you surround yourself with great people. And I think that's because everybody wants to work for the greatest president the United States has ever had pic.twitter.com/sTol0DmwdW

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 1, 2025

[Ghost Econ]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

There's many layers to unpack there, I'd be very interested in seeing the methodology for that survey as well as a very healthy dose of skepticism that traditional polling methods mean much of anything these days (my first job after I moved to the US was for a sample provider).

However if you take that at face value, my thoughts are (not necessarily in order):
1) We're absolutely fucked.
2) Lots of people who think they don't care about a thing are going to start to really care about a thing in a few months.

For#2, no they won't, they'll just blame minorities even more.

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ

For#2, no they won't, they'll just blame minorities even more.

Well, yes that was the point of my #1 comment. They will care a lot about it though, they just won't be informed enough to blame the right people.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ

You can't force people to listen to things they don't care about.

Feels like Dems should have been speaking up on the bill a lot more instead of crying about a Muslim winning a primary in a city they don't live. But they have their priorities.

[Ghost Econ]

People can do more than 1 thing at a time. Sort of like how you clearly don't care about massive amounts of human trafficking and slavery in southeast Asia that's killing far more than the genocide in Palestine. But I guess if the Jews aren't doing it it's not a priority.

[JPhillips]

Even the "best" GOPers are ridiculous clowns.

MURKOWSKI tells reporters she wants the House to send OBBB back to the Senate to continue the work. She voted for it.

"My hope is that the House is gonna look at this and recognize that we're not there yet," Murkowski said

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ

People can do more than 1 thing at a time. Sort of like how you clearly don't care about massive amounts of human trafficking and slavery in southeast Asia that's killing far more than the genocide in Palestine. But I guess if the Jews aren't doing it it's not a priority.

They can but they won't. Sort of why you guys always lose.

Yeah I'm kind of focused on where my tax dollars are being sent since that is something I actually have the power to vote on and change. In the same way I care about feeding people in this country as opposed to a country I don't live in, pay taxes in, or vote in. It's nice Israel can afford universal healthcare while we gut Medicaid.

Also feels a tad antisemitic to correlate genocide with the Jewish religion. A lot of Jewish people oppose Zionism and the ethnic cleansing taking place. Evangelicals are way more into it.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Even the "best" GOPers are ridiculous clowns.

The mental gymnastics some of them have to do to pass an unpopular bill that will fuck their constituents but try to hedge at the same time.

[miked]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

They can but they won't. Sort of why you guys always lose.

Yeah I'm kind of focused on where my tax dollars are being sent since that is something I actually have the power to vote on and change. In the same way I care about feeding people in this country as opposed to a country I don't live in, pay taxes in, or vote in. It's nice Israel can afford universal healthcare while we gut Medicaid.

Also feels a tad antisemitic to correlate genocide with the Jewish religion. A lot of Jewish people oppose Zionism and the ethnic cleansing taking place. Evangelicals are way more into it.

Though you keep referring it as an ethnostate (in an obvious antisemitic negative tone), but make no mention of the dozen other ethnostates in the region that want that one destroyed and its people dead because they are Jews. In case you are wondering, we sort of live in one as well (at least now they are publicly voting on bills to teach the bible and hang the 10 commandments in classrooms).

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by miked

Though you keep referring it as an ethnostate (in an obvious antisemitic negative tone), but make no mention of the dozen other ethnostates in the region that want that one destroyed and its people dead because they are Jews. In case you are wondering, we sort of live in one as well (at least now they are publicly voting on bills to teach the bible and hang the 10 commandments in classrooms).

They literally passed a bill declaring themselves an ethnostate! One of the weirdest part of the discourse is that Israel is proud of what they are and what they do but we have to pass it through some weird American filter to protect them I guess. Reminds me a bit of how Trump will say something insane and then his supporters have to rush out to say "well he didn't mean it that way" or "he's just trolling".

Seems antisemitic to treat them like children who need you to tell us what they truly mean. Not to mention the insinuation that all people of the Jewish faith share these views.

I also don't support Christian nationalism or the efforts to turn this country into an ethnostate either. Been pretty clear about that in other threads. I think the lack of consistency from liberals on that matter is why people don't take them seriously when they do speak out against that stuff in America.

[Ksyrup]

Stephen Miller's group filed an EEOC complaint against the Dodgers - not coincidentally after the team refused to allow ICE to use its parking lot as a staging ground for raids and pledged money to help affected minorities - in which it claimed discrimination against white men. You know, a famously under-represented group in baseball.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Stephen Miller's group filed an EEOC complaint against the Dodgers - not coincidentally after the team refused to allow ICE to use its parking lot as a staging ground for raids and pledged money to help affected minorities - in which it claimed discrimination against white men. You know, a famously under-represented group in baseball.

I don't even know what this is anymore, it is well past the joke/unbelievable stage in terms of how blatantly racist he is, not to mention warped, insecure, weak and stupid. Poor white guys can't catch a break.

[Atocep]

The June jobs report was really, really bad. The first decrease in private sector jobs in over 2 years when they were projecting 115k added. I can't wait for Trump to say its fake.

[Mota]

Originally Posted by Atocep

The June jobs report was really, really bad. The first decrease in private sector jobs in over 2 years when they were projecting 115k added. I can't wait for Trump to say its fake.

"Biden's economy" when things are bad, and "Trump's economy" when things are good. They're going to run with that strategy until 2028.

[RainMaker]

Under Trump pressure, UC bans student governments from anti-Israel boycotts - Los Angeles Times

[Edward64]

Look like OBBB is going to pass. Welcome to +$3.3T of debt over 10 years.

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Adoption of the rule sets the stage for Johnson and his leadership team to pass the legislation later Thursday morning, well ahead of their self-imposed July 4 deadline. The Senate had passed the same bill on Tuesday, so the legislation will head directly to Trump’s desk, where he’s expected to sign it with a ceremonial flourish on Independence Day.

Alright Elon, open up your checkbook and let's do your grass roots thing.

[Lathum]

Lots of leopards going to be eating faces over the next couple of years in red states when Cletus can't figure out why MeeMaw has to move in to his double wide after she breaks her hip because the rehab facility closed due to Medicare cuts.

[Ksyrup]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Lots of leopards going to be eating faces over the next couple of years in red states when Cletus can't figure out why MeeMaw has to move in to his double wide after she breaks her hip because the rehab facility closed due to Medicare cuts.

I'm not on Twitter anymore, so I don't know who's fake or not, and since this account does not exist, I can't tell if it's because it was always fake or they posted this and got flamed so hard they deleted their account, but - if real - this woman would appear to have chewed her own face off. That said, I don't trust a damn thing I read on social media...

Voting for spite has its consequences. @UltraMAGALady pic.twitter.com/7IkP8PTPVp

— MissChris (@guelphgirlchris) July 2, 2025

[Lathum]

I try to be a good person but I have a lot of trouble mustering even a token amount of sympathy for people who put themselves on that situation.

[Passacaglia]

I'm guessing fake. Someone like that wouldn't mention voting to piss off liberals in their post - they would be solely focused on whining about themselves. Also, someone like that wouldn't be even realize their Medicaid is taken away until so much later they would not even think to connect it with this bill

[Ksyrup]

That is my suspicion, although it's all over multiple social media posts on a variety of platforms from what I can see. But it seems to tick too many boxes all in the same post.

[Lathum]

I suppose it is fake as well, but those people are out there in droves in red America and are about to get hammered when clinics and hospitals start closing or offering less services.

[Drake]

I doubt that impacted folks will blame Trump or GOP priorities when these consequences start to downstream. They'll blame poor management for the facilities that closed. They'll blame their states when their medicaid goes away...and then they'll angrily elect a new red governor and/or state legislators. If they're really mad, they'll blame Congress -- and probably the Democrats in Congress for some talking-point reason.

I live in a deep red state. The carping about government (in general) is incessant, but they keep electing the same GOP guys just with different haircuts. Trump is immune from any of this anger. As far as I can tell, he really has convinced people that he's a stable genius and anything that goes sideways is the fault of someone else further down the food chain.

[Drake]

A caveat to the above: I have a suspicion that what's going on with folks in my state is that the poor and the lower middle class have been beaten down and taken advantage of for so long that it's come to be seen as just the way of the world. That is, the way of the world is that the elite just keep taking more and more, and there's no hope that things could actually be better. That's why the price of eggs is such a big deal. When those prices go down, it feels like a rare win in their favor. The idea that we could structurally change society itself to more reasonably distribute treasure and resources in a more equitable way is just one bridge too far. When all you expect is to get kicked in the teeth, only getting a bloody lip from a punch to the mouth feels like mercy.

The funny thing is that I don't know how far down people have to be pushed before they're desperate enough to demand change. I heard a story on NPR yesterday about the food distribution chaos in Gaza. Those people are literally starving and still just settle for whatever crumbs they can get, which tells me that the bottom must be somewhere below that.

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by Drake

A caveat to the above: I have a suspicion that what's going on with folks in my state is that the poor and the lower middle class have been beaten down and taken advantage of for so long that it's come to be seen as just the way of the world. That is, the way of the world is that the elite just keep taking more and more, and there's no hope that things could actually be better. That's why the price of eggs is such a big deal. When those prices go down, it feels like a rare win in their favor. The idea that we could structurally change society itself to more reasonably distribute treasure and resources in a more equitable way is just one bridge too far. When all you expect is to get kicked in the teeth, only getting a bloody lip from a punch to the mouth feels like mercy.

I think there's probably some truth in this, or to put it into terms of why the Democrats keep losing elections, when people aren't doing well no amount of telling them that things aren't actually that bad and will be worse under the other guy (oh, and if you vote for him you are a POS as well, btw) is going to help.

Whether it's true or not, and whether we think it makes them idiots or not, choosing to believe the guy who says he sees them, knows who is to blame and has a plan to make things better is probably the natural human response. Or put in other terms, what do people have to lose?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

. Or put in other terms, what do people have to lose?

They are about to find out