WW CXLIX SPAWN IV - GAME OVER (Post 3845)

[CrimsonFox]

LSG 2 - Danny (3650) JAG (3668)
Danny 3 - Chubby (3703) DV (3705) LSG
DV 2 Abe (3722) CF

[Chubby]

i'm not hung up on original or converted spawn since we don't know how many we started with, i have been worried about that all game

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Danny

If Brit was not the 3rd starting spawn then it has to be lsg or darth, thigh Brit is an odd mutation choice

Again, only really makes sense in that he had a good excuse for being exhausted (remember they went after a security person first, another with a reason for being up at night) and that way they could fake research and prevent us from getting the scanner / engineering kit. I don't believe I would have made that choice as Spawn but I understand the logic if he was mutated.

[CrimsonFox]

The way things are going I"d swear there were 2 wolves still. I really hate still being in this.

[Chubby]

of course nobody has said whether they believe we had 2 vigilantes in the game (autumn and darth as he claims)

[Danny]

I think it's possible. Crimson outline that there had to be two repeated roles so if it was done randomly then sure its possible.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Chubby

of course nobody has said whether they believe we had 2 vigilantes in the game (autumn and darth as he claims)

There are 12 villager roles in the game. Absolute Trust had 3, so 14 roles in total. There weren't more than 3 starting spawn so that's 17 roles if every villager had one, which means there would have to be more than 1 of something besides Absolute Trust.

The other possibility is DV was lying and trying to save Britrock by providing an alibi for Brit's wounded status yesterday. I can see that as a possibility. I'm just going with LSG because I think her voting history is a good bit more suspicious than DV.

But it's pretty much between he and LSG for me. I'm more worried about a possible Spawn LSG becoming Captain if I die than a Spawn DV as engineer running around, so I think LSG is the safer choice for lynch today as well.

[Danny]

I need a nap, so may be missing for a bit (or maybe checking from my phone if I cant fall asleep lol). I'll obviously switch if needed, but right now I am keeping my vote on the person I think is the likeliest spawn.

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by JAG

There are 12 villager roles in the game. Absolute Trust had 3, so 14 roles in total. There weren't more than 3 starting spawn so that's 17 roles if every villager had one, which means there would have to be more than 1 of something besides Absolute Trust.

The other possibility is DV was lying and trying to save Britrock by providing an alibi for Brit's wounded status yesterday. I can see that as a possibility. I'm just going with LSG because I think her voting history is a good bit more suspicious than DV.

But it's pretty much between he and LSG for me. I'm more worried about a possible Spawn LSG becoming Captain if I die than a Spawn DV as engineer running around, so I think LSG is the safer choice for lynch today as well.

i'm more worried about a spawn danny becoming captain. if lsg were spawn, why wouldn't have she killed you last night and won the game?

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Chubby

i'm more worried about a spawn danny becoming captain. if lsg were spawn, why wouldn't have she killed you last night and won the game?

Cause I would still be alive? If she did that, we would vote her today and while she could duke it, she then allows us to mutiny her and loses. In that same argument, if I was spawn, why wouldnt I have killed Jag and LSG off the last few days?

[Danny]

Heck, if I was spawn, I probably would have killed Jag just to set LSG up.

[Danny]

Jag, you should probably order DV to fix sleeping quarters. it doesnt appear he submitted any action and I am pretty sure he is gone past deadline.

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by Danny

Cause I would still be alive? If she did that, we would vote her today and while she could duke it, she then allows us to mutiny her and loses. In that same argument, if I was spawn, why wouldnt I have killed Jag and LSG off the last few days?

thats true, much better plan would be to lynch one during day phase then NK the other that night, right?

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Chubby

thats true, much better plan would be to lynch one during day phase then NK the other that night, right?

Of course, so right now if the vote does come down to LSG or Me and one of us is spawn then we need to pick the right one. Considering I am not worried about me, I comfortable in my vote for LSG. I could understand how that might give you pause considering the risk, but lynching me has the same risk.

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by Danny

Of course, so right now if the vote does come down to LSG or Me and one of us is spawn then we need to pick the right one. Considering I am not worried about me, I comfortable in my vote for LSG. I could understand how that might give you pause considering the risk, but lynching me has the same risk.

not at all because i think LSG is far less likely to be a wolf compared to you or darth

[Danny]

Your entitled to think how you want, I might think your crazy though

[CrimsonFox]

Really Chubby I think you're showing more wolf behavior than anyone today. Mostly for the quickscan.

But at least look at the voting history. Your sudden leap onto Danny doesn't make sense. Just seems like a blind hunch because he thinks it might be LSG. Well I thought it might be LSG before he did and said as such.

If you are worried about Danny instantly winning the game if we kill LSG, then why aren't you worried about LSG for the same reasons.

And why ARE you so keen that Danny is guilty?

[CrimsonFox]

Especially when you keep saying that you think DV is more guilty.

[Danny]

It's a little frustrating that apparently people will think you're more likely to be a villager if you barely show up and do little to help as opposed to being active and finding wolves.

[JAG]

They can't all be wolves CF.

[JAG]

I think it's laughable someone could look at the reasons and evidence Danny provided for voting LSG since the start of the day and find them more wolfish than LSG who voted Danny for the reason of "self-preservation" about 7 hours before deadline...coincidentally after we discussed the Spawn captain FTW idea.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by JAG

They can't all be wolves CF.

Yes I do think Chubby DV Abe and LSG are all wolves.
They just only get 1 kill a night.

[CrimsonFox]

And really DV jumping onto Danny had much less of a reason to do so and of course he probably isn't coming back. I'd like to ask that you all vote me out instead.

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Especially when you keep saying that you think DV is more guilty.

hey ive tried to vote darth and nobody wants to follow

[CrimsonFox]

There are 2 people there Chubby. Where are you getting this?

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

There are 2 people there Chubby. Where are you getting this?

on darth? there wasn't earlier today when everyone went onto lsg. i'm pretty sure i've voted him before and gotten no support despite his long list of red marks

[CrimsonFox]

How about look at the vote count and read people's posts? Do we have to do everything for you?

LSG 2 - Danny (3650) JAG (3668)
Danny 3 - Chubby (3703) DV (3705) LSG
DV 2 Abe (3722) CF


So do me a favor, Chubby. Talk me through your reasons for thinking DV is guilty/or innocent and reasons that you think LSG is guilty and/or innocent.

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

How about look at the vote count and read people's posts? Do we have to do everything for you?

LSG 2 - Danny (3650) JAG (3668)
Danny 3 - Chubby (3703) DV (3705) LSG
DV 2 Abe (3722) CF


So do me a favor, Chubby. Talk me through your reasons for thinking DV is guilty/or innocent and reasons that you think LSG is guilty and/or innocent.

I have, why don't you go back and look at the posts i've made stating why i think lsg is far less likely than darth or danny to be wolf. I mean I've probably stated what, like 5 times today, how i think if lsg were wolf that danny would already be dead (whether she was starting or converted). She would have been converted with the intention of becoming captain or had that scenario put out there from day 1 if she was original

both votes on DV are after I already moved so it's not like he was leading at the time, the rush was on lsg which i think is a waste

[CrimsonFox]

Well that's a possibility Chubby but not a fact. Neither LSG nor DV have been paying attention much And neither are good with lots of rules. I don't think it would have been on their mind really. It is interesting that JAG was never killed. But he was also likely to be protected. Saying Danny "Would be dead" if LSG were a wolf, well that's circumstantial. No hard facts.

And who cares when the votes when on? Danny even said he might change.

[CrimsonFox]

It really sounds like you're voting Danny because people didn't want to vote DV like you wanted them to. I'm okay with a vote for either at this point. But Danny's move to brit the last 2 days would not have happened if Danny were a wolf.

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Well that's a possibility Chubby but not a fact. Neither LSG nor DV have been paying attention much And neither are good with lots of rules. I don't think it would have been on their mind really. It is interesting that JAG was never killed. But he was also likely to be protected. Saying Danny "Would be dead" if LSG were a wolf, well that's circumstantial. No hard facts.

And who cares when the votes when on? Danny even said he might change.

did i ever say i wouldnt change?

[Chubby]

what facts? vote history? vote history is not ironclad, wolves vote for wolves too yaknow

[CrimsonFox]

And hunches are so ironclad. Please.

I can't wait around all day I have to catch a bux. If you're going to move then move.

by the way the same reasons you give for danny also hold for LSG. If LSG is guilty then everything you said holds for her too. LSG isn't dead and jag and danny aren't either. So if you kill danny and LSG kills Jag and she's a wolf. Game over too. So really if you are scared of that, you should be voting for no officers.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Chubby

did i ever say i wouldnt change?

why are you messing with us?

[CrimsonFox]

okay i have to leave. I odn't know if I'll be back. JAG and Chubby, are you guys going to change to DV? I can change to LSG now if I need.

[CrimsonFox]

Cause I won't be back. I hate feeling like I'm the only one playing.

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

why are you messing with us?

i'm not messing with anyone.

is the only way to elicit a response from someone is by asking them a direct question?

i never said hunches are ironclad but they have as much validity as anything outside of scans.

again, if lsg were wolf I believe jag would have been dead a longtime ago

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Cause I won't be back. I hate feeling like I'm the only one playing.

you're not but you don't want me playing either

unvote danny
vote darth

it's the most logical choice, and has been for like 3 frickin' days (which i've tried saying)

[Barkeep49]

Votes Needed to lynch: 2

LSG 2 - Danny (3650) JAG (3668)
Danny 2 - DV (3705) LSG (3730)
DV 3 - Abe (3722) CF (3740) Chubby (3788)

[Barkeep49]

CF takes his engineering know-how down to the Crew Quarters to repair some beds.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Chubby

you're not but you don't want me playing either

unvote danny
vote darth

it's the most logical choice, and has been for like 3 frickin' days (which i've tried saying)

Yes. Although the fact that Shiggles was innocent was the one thing that made me less sure of him.

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Yes. Although the fact that Shiggles was innocent was the one thing that made me less sure of him.

which was probably done with the intention of disabling the brig and not to simply free shiggles

[Abe Sargent]

Do we want any training todday? I can make an engineer security, and if alive tomorrow, then a scientist.

[Abe Sargent]

Although CF just used his time, so I can;t make him it, and DV may die, so that wouldn't work

[JAG]

CF did an action so it could only be DV.

[Abe Sargent]

What happens if we have a tie?

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

What happens if we have a tie?

I've been waiting all game to be able to not answer that question

[Danny]

I still think lsg is the more likely spawn, but no choice now

Unvote lsg
Vote darth

[Abe Sargent]

I'm so temped to unvote and go in with a three way tie in the hopes that they all get voted off and we likely win right now, but no.

[CrimsonFox]

Made it here. Borrowed a car