The Official 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs Thread

[Logan]

Carey Price is out for the rest of the series.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by Logan

Carey Price is out for the rest of the series.

That sucks.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Oof

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

There are people who grew up in America who are Canadiens fans?

Most of my mom's family of origin grew up/live just over the Ottawa River, within an hour's drive of Montreal.

[britrock88]

Also, my alternative is the 'Canes...

[Logan]

Hank was unbelievable last night. Turning away those PK blasts like they were nothing.

[The Jackal]

If this ends up being a Hawks-Rangers finals I'm going to be sad. I don't want to have to root for the Hawks to win..

[bhlloy]

a) how the holy hell do you miss that?
b) that should be a reviewable play - Prust should be gone and the Rangers should have a 5 min PP. He'll get suspended but you won't get rid of those hits unless they are punished on the ice

[Logan]

Stepan's jaw broke on the hit. He's having surgery now.

Phone hearing for Prust.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

a) how the holy hell do you miss that?
b) that should be a reviewable play - Prust should be gone and the Rangers should have a 5 min PP. He'll get suspended but you won't get rid of those hits unless they are punished severely with long, drastic suspensions that hit the players in the wallet and/or put in doubt their future in the league

Fixed

[bhlloy]

Oh I agree - but the league has consistently shown they aren't willing to make those decisions

Ultimately, if the refs had made the correct call on the ice, there's a very good chance (not sure of the conversion rate on a 5 min pp but it's got to be pretty damn high) that changes the result of the game and the Canadiens are probably done in the series

edit - I wonder if Abdelkader is more worried about the IIHF suspension he's about to get, or the fact that he single handedly cost all his teammates a WC medal. Calling it correctly on the ice should be the first punishment

[Logan]

Carcillo gets 10 for his idiotic contact with the linesman last night.

[Danny]

Kings absolutely dominating the hawks in the last two 3rd periods

[MrBug708]

Boom!

[Danny]

Very impressed with kings with postseason, especially since quick has been surprisingly average overall

[Danny]

Heck of a start for the kings

[sterlingice]

Funny I was going to say "awful start for the Hawks"

SI

[bhlloy]

Late to the party (busy weekend) but Prust got two fucking games for a textbook dirty hit that seriously injured the other player. And yet we have no idea why the head shots are still part of the game...

[Fidatelo]

Yeah two games seemed really light to me as well.

[britrock88]

Phone hearings limit suspensions to what, 5 games? I figured they'd get him out of the series with that. Surprised he'll be back tonight.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Originally Posted by britrock88

Phone hearings limit suspensions to what, 5 games? I figured they'd get him out of the series with that. Surprised he'll be back tonight.

I found it oddly amusing he had a phone hearing while they were already in NY

[Suburban Rhythm]

DOLA

AV and Therien are buddies, right?

Who texted who after the 1st and said "Remember how much people loved that 2012 Penguins - Flyers series?"

[FrogMan]

so, 2 games for John Moore too? At least this time one of the two blinds saw it. Same call should have been made on Prust when he made his hit.

FM

[Logan]

Originally Posted by FrogMan

so, 2 games for John Moore too? At least this time one of the two blinds saw it. Same call should have been made on Prust when he made his hit.

FM

That's my guess. Not that it matters in terms of discipline, but I saw courtesy of CBC that Moore's hit was 0.5 seconds after Weise let go of the puck. Prust's was 0.93 seconds.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Originally Posted by Logan

That's my guess. Not that it matters in terms of discipline, but I saw courtesy of CBC that Moore's hit was 0.5 seconds after Weise let go of the puck. Prust's was 0.93 seconds.

Yeah, read the same in a tweet from Elliotte Friedman

Trying to think like the NHL makes my brain hurt. Prust's twice as late. But (from replays I've seen) Moore left his feet. And I'd argue Moore's principal point of contact was the head.

So which factor weighs most heavily?

[Logan]

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

Yeah, read the same in a tweet from Elliotte Friedman

Trying to think like the NHL makes my brain hurt. Prust's twice as late. But (from replays I've seen) Moore left his feet. And I'd argue Moore's principal point of contact was the head.

So which factor weighs most heavily?

Guess it depends on if Weise ends up needing surgery!

[britrock88]

Difference in timing would make me think 1 game for Moore. NHL could decide to handle it consequentially, though, and not suspend based on the lack of injury.

[Logan]

I think there's zero chance that he gets less than 2. The timing will net out with the clearer contact to the head.

[Logan]

BTW, the only reason I mentioned the difference in timing was because it annoyed me that every replay I saw yesterday comparing the two hits, the Prust hit was in regular speed and the Moore hit was in slow motion. Of course they'll look like similar timing in that regard.

[FrogMan]

that's nice...
Derek Dorsett Headbutt on Mike Weaver (5/27/14) - YouTube

FM

[FrogMan]

been looking at both hits back and forth, in slowmo and real speed and forget about the .43 seconds difference, these two hits are about the same. The puck was gone for long enough so that either guy had to at least try to hit differently and try to avoid a hit to the head of the other player.

but like SR said, trying to think like the NHL makes my head want to explode so I'll stop now...

FM

[FrogMan]

Moore suspended for two games while Weise is now out with a concussion...

FM

[sterlingice]

Hawks-Kings has been pretty wild tonight

SI

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Hawks-Kings has been pretty wild tonight

SI

First OT was terrific hockey, pretty surprised that there is a second OT left to be played tonight.

[MrBug708]

Tough loss, Kings were playing well in OT too

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Hawks-Kings has been pretty wild tonight

SI

Gonna be a lot of tired people in my office this morning.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by FrogMan

Moore suspended for two games while Weise is now out with a concussion...

FM

Therrien says it's not a concussion.

[timmae]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Gonna be a lot of tired people in my office this morning.

Very true my friend!

[Suburban Rhythm]

Originally Posted by Logan

Therrien says it's not a concussion.

I like that he called it a "body injury"...as opposed to? Emotional?

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

I like that he called it a "body injury"...as opposed to? Emotional?

It's a followup to the play on words he did in his game 5 postgame presser. After the win, he was asked if he could tell more about Alexei Emelin's injury, when it happened, what it was, and finally, if it was a lower body injury or a upper body injury. Not wanting to be specific, his reply was that it was a... body injury. Everyone in the room got a good laugh about it and I'm thinking he just went for the same answer today.

Of course, he wants to be as vague as he can be about it.

FM

[Logan]

These nerves...

[sterlingice]

Montreal has gotten pretty much nothing the last 10 minutes and time is running out

SI

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Montreal has gotten pretty much nothing the last 10 minutes and time is running out

SI

that was a pretty pathetic showing in the third period for Montreal. To start with a power play and come out so flat was pretty sad.

They had a good run that almost nobody had expected.

Tokarski isn't the one to be blamed for this but I believe it could have been a very different series had Price been in goals for Montreal...

FM

[Logan]

About 12 hours later and I can finally breathe. That was excruciating but amazing.

Originally Posted by FrogMan

that was a pretty pathetic showing in the third period for Montreal. To start with a power play and come out so flat was pretty sad.

I think the issue is more that they were completely gassed. You could see it developing in the 2nd, especially defensively. The whole team was chasing the Rangers in the 1st and that wears you down. The Rangers were doing a great job protecting their own blue line and not giving an easy entry, and the Habs didn't have the speed at that point to fight that off.

Tokarski played a hell of a series. Happy to be moving on.

[JonInMiddleGA]

My brain was thinking roughly "NY vs LA maybe ... that oughta be good for ratings". And then I discovered how much better NY vs CHI would probably be for the ratings (since the Kings last title run fairly fizzled in ratings).

And then I wondered whether who makes it would really matter or not, since so far the playoffs are getting beaten routinely by cartoon & sitcom reruns on Adult Swim and TBS.

NHL Playoffs 2014: Road To Stanley Cup Drawing Strong Interest From Big Cities?

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

And then I wondered whether who makes it would really matter or not, since so far the playoffs are getting beaten routinely by cartoon & sitcom reruns on Adult Swim and TBS.

NHL Playoffs 2014: Road To Stanley Cup Drawing Strong Interest From Big Cities?

Not at all surprising. Hockey is, and will likely always be, very much a niche sport.

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by Logan

About 12 hours later and I can finally breathe. That was excruciating but amazing.



I think the issue is more that they were completely gassed. You could see it developing in the 2nd, especially defensively. The whole team was chasing the Rangers in the 1st and that wears you down. The Rangers were doing a great job protecting their own blue line and not giving an easy entry, and the Habs didn't have the speed at that point to fight that off.

Tokarski played a hell of a series. Happy to be moving on.

you're probably right, I was just so surprised they came out so flat to start out the period, with a power play of all things but I gotta give it to them, defensively the Rangers gave absolutely nothing to the Habs. Lundkvist wasn't tested much during the whole game and when he needed a miracle save, he did it against Vanek. Kudos to your team, good luck in the finals. Whoever goes through you'll be facing a heck of a team, although if Chicago hangs on to force a game 7, either could be quite tired by the time the finals starts...

FM

[Logan]

Thanks. Was a fun series. Wish it happened with Price playing.

I think I'd rather face Chicago just on the fact that Quick > Crawford and the Rangers will deservedly be the underdog against either team, so I'd prefer having the goalie edge. Either team will be a bitch to go up against so having the series go seven would be great.

[Suburban Rhythm]

This is pretty wild. In recent history, the road to the SCF runs through...Philly.

2008 - Penguins beat Flyers in ECF to advance to SCF
2009 - Penguins beat Flyers round 1, advance to SCF (win Cup)
2010 - Flyers themselves advance to SCF
2011 - Bruins beat Flyers round 2, advance to SCF(win Cup)
2012 - Devils beat Flyer round 2, advance to SCF
2013 - Flyers do not qualify for playoffs
2014 - Rangers beat Flyers round 1, advance to SCF

[MrBug708]

Well that changed quickly