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Old 09-17-2009, 04:04 PM   #351
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Post #300:

Mia Ow 0 --
No Lynch 4 -- Kwhit (103) MartinD (133) DaddyTorgo (182) PurdueBrad (185)
MartinD 9 -- Mia Ow (142) Schmidty (154) Telle (183) claphamsa (192) The Jackal (207) Lathum (262) Alan T (282) lerriuqs (285) Danny (293)
claphamsa 2 -- LoneStarGirl (156) Darth Vilus (159)
lerriuqs 3 -- Chief Rum (242) GoldenEagle (245) JAG (296)

Didn't vote: J23
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Old 09-17-2009, 04:05 PM   #352
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LSG looks like our superstar, her average of 62 is at least 11 points higher than the 6 other player averages we've seen.
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Old 09-17-2009, 04:28 PM   #353
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Wow, lots of things happened while I was at lunch. Apparently I'm not a very good keeper, sorry KWhit.

And hell of a pickup, Alan - may I ask what about my posts struck you the wrong way? I'd like for you to take another look before you start offering me up as the best candidate or anything, though you were right on with Danny.
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Old 09-17-2009, 04:34 PM   #354
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Good job Alan!
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Old 09-17-2009, 05:07 PM   #355
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The match is a tough affair – the squad falls 0-1 early, but a late goal equalizes, and the match ends in a 1-1 draw. Man of the Match is Darth Vilus. The squad will feel they might have scored more goals, if not for J23, who would not recognize the great game by Darth, and took too many shots himself.

The skill levels, in descending order:

1. Darth Vilus, Striker, 94
2. Alan T, Center Back, 81
3. lerriuqs, Full Back, 65
4. Schmidty, Center Midfielder, 54
5. DaddyTorgo, Full Back, 52
6. JAG, Winger, 28
7. Mia Ow, Winger, 28
8. claphamsa, Winger, 24
9. Lathum, Center Back, 22
10. The Jackal, Goalkeeper, 15
11. J23, Striker, 14

Bench players:

1. LoneStarGirl, 62
2. PurdueBrad, 48
3. Chief Rum, 46
4. Telle, 45
5. GoldenEagle, 43

Total: 633
Result: Draw
Points: 1

Day 2 Begins!!!

What positions were the bench players played it?
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Old 09-17-2009, 05:44 PM   #356
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What positions were the bench players played it?

They're not really given positions. Their scoring is different.
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Old 09-17-2009, 05:54 PM   #357
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ok! so i didnt die! danny is ALWAYS a wolf!

and i suck at CM... told you im center back or goalie :P
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Old 09-17-2009, 05:56 PM   #358
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Two skillsets is hardly a worthy sample on which to base this conclusion, but my guess from comparing Danny's positional ratings with each other, and Martin's as well, that there is no corollation (or no clear corollation for sure) between skill level at similar positions.

For example, it would be reasonable to guess that centrebacks and fullbacks might have related skillsets, or wingers and strikers, but that doesn't seem to be the case. The only rough corollation that stood out to me--and I think it's coincidental--is that the GK and CB ratings for Danny and Martin were fairly close to one another (I mean, Danny's GK and CB ratings were fairly close; and Martin's GK and CB ratings were also fairly close to each other).

I was hoping we might see a connection that might aid KWhit in placing players in new positions, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
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Old 09-17-2009, 05:58 PM   #359
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so now i can chat with schidty all i want? right?
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Old 09-17-2009, 06:03 PM   #360
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Checking in, sorry for the novote today. I wasn't able to get on at all from work. It shouldn't happen again (I hope).
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Old 09-17-2009, 06:05 PM   #361
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Looks like a fantastic first day (even though I suck @ Striker). It figures since I played midfield and defense back in the day!

What's the feeling on the lynch v. no lynch at this point?
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Old 09-17-2009, 06:06 PM   #362
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Looks like a fantastic first day (even though I suck @ Striker). It figures since I played midfield and defense back in the day!

What's the feeling on the lynch v. no lynch at this point?
no lynch is NEVER a valid option!
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Old 09-17-2009, 06:10 PM   #363
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Looks like a fantastic first day (even though I suck @ Striker). It figures since I played midfield and defense back in the day!

What's the feeling on the lynch v. no lynch at this point?

Yea, mate, nothing personal, but your no good at the football.
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Old 09-17-2009, 06:11 PM   #364
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I was hoping we might see a connection that might aid KWhit in placing players in new positions, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

I would assume that they're all random given what we've seen. I would have expected as much or I think it would have been too easy on the manager.
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Old 09-17-2009, 06:17 PM   #365
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I would assume that they're all random given what we've seen. I would have expected as much or I think it would have been too easy on the manager.

I agree that it was presumeable to be random, but it's good to have evidence of it, so KWhit won't falsely take it into consideration with his next lineup.
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Old 09-17-2009, 06:31 PM   #366
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Old 09-17-2009, 06:54 PM   #367
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Except you ended up being the least talented of the 5 bench players...

Who is running our scouting department around here?

Perhaps the bench score is related to defense, which I will admit that I can be poor at sometimes. I just have such an offensive and creative mind, that I sometimes forget to play the defense, yea?

I got me a pair of pink boots in for tomorrow's match. The gaffer has ensured me that I will be starting. You know if you break out the pink boots, your bad ass.

Also the match report does not say who scored the goal, only that it was a late equalizer. Late equalizers are my specialty. It perfectly presumable that I came off the bench as a substitute and scored the goal. I probably replaced the rubbish of a football player that is J23, yea?
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Old 09-17-2009, 07:01 PM   #368
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Damn, nice pick up Alan!

I would have gotten ripped to shreds if I had done that.....



Anyway, nice gut move Alan!!!!!
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Old 09-17-2009, 07:05 PM   #369
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I would have gotten ripped to shreds if I had done that.....



Anyway, nice gut move Alan!!!!!

well if you had done it then it would have been a bonehead move
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Old 09-17-2009, 07:09 PM   #370
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well if you had done it then it would have been a bonehead move

Very true, very true.
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Old 09-17-2009, 07:33 PM   #371
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LSG looks like our superstar, her average of 62 is at least 11 points higher than the 6 other player averages we've seen.

Are we sure that bench score = average score ?

Another interesting discussion topic is who the wolves will kill? Do they try to take out our best players or do they do random kills hoping to get the body guard and the seer?

The body guard also has a difficult decision to make. Does he guard our best player and assume the wolves will go after him/her?

Obviously, if Darth is on the field, then we have almost 100 of 800 points needed for the win. But I don't think that should give him automatic protection. A wolf who has great soccer skills is seating in a pretty good position right now.

I was also a bit suspect when AlanT asked to play goalkeeper. This would allow him to have PM privileges with the manager. But obviously he is in the COT now, but I have to be cautious of any player who asks for PM privileges with the manager.
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Old 09-17-2009, 07:37 PM   #372
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Are we sure that bench score = average score ?

Another interesting discussion topic is who the wolves will kill? Do they try to take out our best players or do they do random kills hoping to get the body guard and the seer?

The body guard also has a difficult decision to make. Does he guard our best player and assume the wolves will go after him/her?

Obviously, if Darth is on the field, then we have almost 100 of 800 points needed for the win. But I don't think that should give him automatic protection. A wolf who has great soccer skills is seating in a pretty good position right now.

I was also a bit suspect when AlanT asked to play goalkeeper. This would allow him to have PM privileges with the manager. But obviously he is in the COT now, but I have to be cautious of any player who asks for PM privileges with the manager.

alan T along with Kwit are undeniably good.... why would you suspect anything?
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Old 09-17-2009, 08:41 PM   #373
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alan T along with Kwit are undeniably good.... why would you suspect anything?

My suspension was when Alan asked to be the goalkeeper. The benefit of that is that the GK is the only person who can PM with the manager. If that person is a wolf, he can influence the manager with a fake reveal.

Obviously, Alan is good but that it raised a warning flag when he asked to be the goalkeeper.
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Old 09-17-2009, 08:43 PM   #374
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LSG looks like our superstar, her average of 62 is at least 11 points higher than the 6 other player averages we've seen.

quoted for truth
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Old 09-17-2009, 08:44 PM   #375
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My suspension was when Alan asked to be the goalkeeper. The benefit of that is that the GK is the only person who can PM with the manager. If that person is a wolf, he can influence the manager with a fake reveal.

Obviously, Alan is good but that it raised a warning flag when he asked to be the goalkeeper.
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Old 09-17-2009, 08:49 PM   #376
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A lot has happened in the 12 hours since I have been online.

Alant, great job!

Kwhit - Damn you for not playing me!

GoldenEagle - HAHA my ranking was so much better than yours and football is your sport!

And I feel very confused about a lot of things in this game, particullarly based on Pass's evasiveness. There are a lot of bench players to pm, although I really dont see the benefit at this point, but I do find it amusing that both GE and I are on the bench. Pass do GE and I HAVE to talk about WW through pm's or can we have some pillow talk about WW?
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Old 09-17-2009, 08:57 PM   #377
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I was also a bit suspect when AlanT asked to play goalkeeper. This would allow him to have PM privileges with the manager. But obviously he is in the COT now, but I have to be cautious of any player who asks for PM privileges with the manager.

I can see where you are coming from here. I originally had actually asked to be sat out (so I could have a chance to use my power), but after part of the day I had no one that I felt strong about using my power on so I asked to play goalkeep in order to let Kwhit know my role and ability to be able to use as he saw fit. He evidently either went with my original request or completely ignored the request (not sure which), but I guess it all worked out in the end!
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Old 09-17-2009, 09:01 PM   #378
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how did you pick danny? other than the fact that he has been a wolf in 60% of the games hes played?
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Old 09-17-2009, 09:11 PM   #379
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how did you pick danny? other than the fact that he has been a wolf in 60% of the games hes played?

The way he entered near the deadline and was talking rubbed me the wrong way. I didn't remember much of anything he said prior in the day and suddenly he appeared saying all kinds of stuff. That in itself is no big deal, could have just been a busy schedule but he seemed to be talking out of both sides of his mouth. He was arguing one way then acting a different way then throwing blame back the first way again. I guess his actions didn't match what he was saying to me and set off warning bells.

In the end, I likely just got lucky.
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Old 09-17-2009, 09:14 PM   #380
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The way he entered near the deadline and was talking rubbed me the wrong way. I didn't remember much of anything he said prior in the day and suddenly he appeared saying all kinds of stuff. That in itself is no big deal, could have just been a busy schedule but he seemed to be talking out of both sides of his mouth. He was arguing one way then acting a different way then throwing blame back the first way again. I guess his actions didn't match what he was saying to me and set off warning bells.

In the end, I likely just got lucky.

funny thing... you didnt rub me wrong so far... I was so sure you were a wolf!

im so good at this
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Old 09-17-2009, 09:49 PM   #381
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The way he entered near the deadline and was talking rubbed me the wrong way. I didn't remember much of anything he said prior in the day and suddenly he appeared saying all kinds of stuff. That in itself is no big deal, could have just been a busy schedule but he seemed to be talking out of both sides of his mouth. He was arguing one way then acting a different way then throwing blame back the first way again. I guess his actions didn't match what he was saying to me and set off warning bells.

In the end, I likely just got lucky.

It really was my schedule, I normally have a good amount of time to devote, but much less now and wasn't actually around until that 20 minutes or so before deadline, so I may have tried to squeeze too much into that short time period. I probably would have done the same as a villager, but either way it was a good read as slightly different from how I normally play, even if it is only because I can't be as active.
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Old 09-18-2009, 12:32 AM   #382
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Darth Vilus= thread killer

and what is that supposed to mean?
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Old 09-18-2009, 12:37 AM   #383
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and what is that supposed to mean?

It's an FOFC inside joke.

The last person to post in a thread is the thread killer. No one posted for almost an hour after one of your afternoon posts today.
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Old 09-18-2009, 01:11 AM   #384
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It's an FOFC inside joke.

The last person to post in a thread is the thread killer. No one posted for almost an hour after one of your afternoon posts today.

Yeah, it's just an innocent FOFC inside joke. No biggie.

You'll catch on to the lingo eventually, Darthy McDarthalot!!!
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Old 09-18-2009, 01:15 AM   #385
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Oh i see, makes sense

And EAT IT GOLDENEAGLE! 94 AT STRIKER HOMIE! wHO'S THE BEST PLAYER?

Getting serious for a moment, anyone think it's odd that GE would try to throw suspicion my way when I am a huge asset to winning games? First he says not to protect me than says that I might be a wolf. Looks like he's trying to kill me anyway he can. Very suspicious I must say. I mean no one can be that delusional, can they?
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Old 09-18-2009, 04:54 AM   #386
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Are we sure that bench score = average score ?

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Another interesting discussion topic is who the wolves will kill? Do they try to take out our best players or do they do random kills hoping to get the body guard and the seer?

All things being equal (having no additional information and assuming our top players aren't wolves), I would think they would aim for our top players since we already have a team only 170 points from being a winning one, and that's with 5 positions yielding 20ish or fewer points. If we get 3 wins going forward, the game is over unless they're willing to stop killing villagers.
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Old 09-18-2009, 07:20 AM   #387
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I figured with as many people were in the game this thread would be hopping at night, but sadly this is not so. This will be my only post before 2 pm deadline, and I HATE having to vote and run but I am going to throw my vote out for vote chief rum

Some of the things he said earlier raised the hair on the back of my neck. And if I had more than 5 minutes at the computer this morning I would rehash them all out, but unfortunately I have to leave for work now.
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Old 09-18-2009, 08:28 AM   #388
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They're not really given positions. Their scoring is different.

The lesson here being that PurdueBrad is not a very good bench player and therefore, belongs on the field!

Anyway, I'm fighting some sort of cold/flu thing so I'll be in and out of commission today but given that we have some good information of player skills, I will likely be more in favor of a lynch today than I was yesterday.
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Old 09-18-2009, 08:49 AM   #389
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Old 09-18-2009, 08:56 AM   #390
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i wonder if GE is a wolf and all his talk about being the best has been a way to try to setup his defense rather than him being more in-charactery?

i don't necessarily have any opinion, just floating the thought.
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Old 09-18-2009, 09:28 AM   #391
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not very lively in here.....

do we have any votes yet? other than LSGs?
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Old 09-18-2009, 09:31 AM   #392
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Old 09-18-2009, 10:17 AM   #393
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I figured with as many people were in the game this thread would be hopping at night, but sadly this is not so. This will be my only post before 2 pm deadline, and I HATE having to vote and run but I am going to throw my vote out for vote chief rum

Some of the things he said earlier raised the hair on the back of my neck. And if I had more than 5 minutes at the computer this morning I would rehash them all out, but unfortunately I have to leave for work now.

There's the best vote around.

"Here's my vote. I have my reasons but I'm too busy to say them right now. I won't be back before deadline."

Let me prepare a defense for that. Oh wait, I can't.
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Old 09-18-2009, 10:45 AM   #394
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Two skillsets is hardly a worthy sample on which to base this conclusion, but my guess from comparing Danny's positional ratings with each other, and Martin's as well, that there is no corollation (or no clear corollation for sure) between skill level at similar positions.

For example, it would be reasonable to guess that centrebacks and fullbacks might have related skillsets, or wingers and strikers, but that doesn't seem to be the case. The only rough corollation that stood out to me--and I think it's coincidental--is that the GK and CB ratings for Danny and Martin were fairly close to one another (I mean, Danny's GK and CB ratings were fairly close; and Martin's GK and CB ratings were also fairly close to each other).

I was hoping we might see a connection that might aid KWhit in placing players in new positions, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Yes, there is no corollation between skill level at similar positions. Each skill level is an independent random number, 1 to 100.
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Old 09-18-2009, 10:49 AM   #395
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A lot has happened in the 12 hours since I have been online.

Alant, great job!

Kwhit - Damn you for not playing me!

GoldenEagle - HAHA my ranking was so much better than yours and football is your sport!

And I feel very confused about a lot of things in this game, particullarly based on Pass's evasiveness. There are a lot of bench players to pm, although I really dont see the benefit at this point, but I do find it amusing that both GE and I are on the bench. Pass do GE and I HAVE to talk about WW through pm's or can we have some pillow talk about WW?

Like I said to Lathum, you don't have to use PMs, but if you use some other form of communication, please CC me the juicy details...I mean transcript.
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Old 09-18-2009, 10:51 AM   #396
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I figured with as many people were in the game this thread would be hopping at night, but sadly this is not so. This will be my only post before 2 pm deadline, and I HATE having to vote and run but I am going to throw my vote out for vote chief rum

Some of the things he said earlier raised the hair on the back of my neck. And if I had more than 5 minutes at the computer this morning I would rehash them all out, but unfortunately I have to leave for work now.

I'll count this, but in the future, please put your vote on its own line.
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Old 09-18-2009, 10:54 AM   #397
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So coming off a tie yesterday and thanks to AlanT getting a wolf I am wondering if no lynch and going for a win is the way to go.

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Old 09-18-2009, 10:54 AM   #398
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Old 09-18-2009, 10:57 AM   #399
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Like I said to Lathum, you don't have to use PMs, but if you use some other form of communication, please CC me the juicy details...I mean transcript.
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Old 09-18-2009, 10:58 AM   #400
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So coming off a tie yesterday and thanks to AlanT getting a wolf I am wondering if no lynch and going for a win is the way to go.

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how does no lynch and going for the win correlate? we go for the win AND lynch!
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