Historical Nation Draft - Page 8

Coffee Warlord · 05-13-2009, 12:21 PM

Oh my.

larrymcg421 · 05-13-2009, 12:30 PM

From his list, Noop picks:

3.5 Imhotep, Scientist, Egypt, Pre-20th

Barkeep49 · 05-13-2009, 12:30 PM

Wow. I did not see that pick coming now.

Coffee Warlord · 05-13-2009, 12:31 PM

Makes two of us.

larrymcg421 · 05-13-2009, 12:32 PM

Izulde sent in a list, but his picks are gone.

I'll PM him.

Alan T · 05-13-2009, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

From his list, Noop picks:

3.5 Imhotep, Scientist, Egypt, Pre-20th

Ok first pick I had to look up to see who this was. I guess I am not up on my ancient egyptians I fear

Coffee Warlord · 05-13-2009, 12:50 PM

Off to lunch. PM'd larry a bunch of picks.

Galaril · 05-13-2009, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T

Ok first pick I had to look up to see who this was. I guess I am not up on my ancient egyptians I fear

And with the pick they select the punter from Mississippi Valley State A&M

....

lordscarlet · 05-13-2009, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Off to lunch. PM'd larry a bunch of picks.

I'm sure they'll all get taken by the time you're up.

AENeuman · 05-13-2009, 01:05 PM

Over/under on % of people in this draft being the same as historical person draft last year? I'm going with 80% ( i know this is snarky, but Imhotep was by far the best late round surprise pick last time and i fear little surprise here)

Interesting on religious picks. So far they have all been the charismatic originator, not the brilliant second generation administrator/writer/leader

Noop · 05-13-2009, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AENeuman

Over/under on % of people in this draft being the same as historical person draft last year? I'm going with 80% ( i know this is snarky, but Imhotep was by far the best late round surprise pick last time and i fear little surprise here)

Interesting on religious picks. So far they have all been the charismatic originator, not the brilliant second generation administrator/writer/leader

He was going to be my last pick but I though Larry would wait a little so I can make the choice myself. However I feel like I have a solid plan in place to at least not finish last.

larrymcg421 · 05-13-2009, 01:29 PM

Sorry about that, Noop.

From now on, if anyone sends me a list, please let me know if you want me to wait on using it. I can wait up to an hour before picking from it.

larrymcg421 · 05-13-2009, 01:31 PM

I've updated the first post with all of the picks.

larrymcg421 · 05-13-2009, 01:37 PM

I also added a timeline count so you can keep track of your pre-20th/20th picks.

Remember, they have to even out at 7-7.

Danny · 05-13-2009, 01:40 PM

Noop with two good picks after a questionable first one. BK stole my 3rd rounder, so great pick there.

Danny · 05-13-2009, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AENeuman

Over/under on % of people in this draft being the same as historical person draft last year? I'm going with 80% ( i know this is snarky, but Imhotep was by far the best late round surprise pick last time and i fear little surprise here)

Interesting on religious picks. So far they have all been the charismatic originator, not the brilliant second generation administrator/writer/leader

I think Imhotep was an early rounder in that draft too. And yes, I am sure many picks will be the same, still because of the country limitation and different categories, there will still be different ones. I know for me, some categories I have a little different outlook on then the other draft.

Lathum · 05-13-2009, 02:57 PM

hmm, we seem to have stalled.

Larry, I should be around to make my picks

Lathum · 05-13-2009, 03:48 PM

so how soon until we use the Vikings rule?

DaddyTorgo · 05-13-2009, 03:52 PM

Izulde · 05-13-2009, 03:54 PM

Gah! Sorry! Just woke up

DaddyTorgo · 05-13-2009, 03:54 PM

it's cool izulde - apparently you sent in a list but all your picks on it were already taken says larry

Izulde · 05-13-2009, 04:01 PM

Edit: Ineligible pick

Barkeep49 · 05-13-2009, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izulde

3.6 Niccolo Machiavelli - Chief Diplomat - Italy - Pre-20th Century

Author of the seminal text The Prince, along with other writings, he is arguably the founder of the still dominant realist school of international relations thought and remains extremely influential today, even if his exact personal political beliefs are still open to debate.

Heh. This pick is invalid because of Marco Polo. What's funny is someone else already tried to pick him.

larrymcg421 · 05-13-2009, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izulde

3.6 Niccolo Machiavelli - Chief Diplomat - Italy - Pre-20th Century

Author of the seminal text The Prince, along with other writings, he is arguably the founder of the still dominant realist school of international relations thought and remains extremely influential today, even if his exact personal political beliefs are still open to debate.

Italy already taken in that category.

Izulde · 05-13-2009, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Heh. This pick is invalid because of Marco Polo. What's funny is someone else already tried to pick him.

Ah right, I keep forgetting Marco Polo's Italian. And I literally woke up 5 minutes ago.

Okay, let me try again.

Barkeep49 · 05-13-2009, 04:05 PM

No problem. I was a bit of an idiot myself with one of my picks so I can hardly fault a sleep person for making a mistake.

Izulde · 05-13-2009, 04:14 PM

3.6 Otto von Bismarck - Chief Diplomat - Pre-20th Century

Largely responsible for the unification of Germany, his diplomacy and statecraft was magnificent, both in terms of bringing the independent German states together in one nation and empire and in dealing with international powers. His Iron and Blood speech is still quite famous and he greatly illustrated the practical application of Machiavelli's realist political philosophy or, as it's called in German, realpolitik.

Coffee Warlord · 05-13-2009, 04:16 PM

3.7 - William Shakespeare - Artist - England - Pre 20th

Izulde · 05-13-2009, 04:28 PM

Great pick with Shakespeare.

larrymcg421 · 05-13-2009, 04:28 PM

No list from DT.

DaddyTorgo · 05-13-2009, 04:31 PM

of course not. making up a list so far ahead of time greatly limits one's ability to respond, or think creatively. i hate doing it, and thus will only do it if absolutely necessary

Abe Sargent · 05-13-2009, 04:33 PM

Me too

Abe Sargent · 05-13-2009, 04:33 PM

Otto was a solid choice for either Diplomat OR Ruler/Leader.

Izulde · 05-13-2009, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Otto was a solid choice for either Diplomat OR Ruler/Leader.

Thanks. I agree he's multi-category, but I feel like Ruler/Leader is much deeper than Diplomat.

Barkeep49 · 05-13-2009, 04:42 PM

I'd agree that Bismark is a better choice in Diplomat given the strengths. A very solid pick, no doubt.

larrymcg421 · 05-13-2009, 04:43 PM

No problem. I didn't mean it in a bad way. Just wanted to let everyone know that I wouldn't be picking.

We've got a really good pace going, so no worries.

Abe Sargent · 05-13-2009, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izulde

Thanks. I agree he's multi-category, but I feel like Ruler/Leader is much deeper than Diplomat.

Oh yeah, I agree. I don;t think many know just how much diplomacy was involved in the Unification.

DaddyTorgo · 05-13-2009, 04:46 PM

3.8 John Marshall, Justice Minister, American, Pre-20th Century

Abe Sargent · 05-13-2009, 04:47 PM

An obvious and solid choice.

Izulde · 05-13-2009, 04:47 PM

Nice. I was thinking about a Supreme Court Justice myself, but couldn't decide on what one.

Lathum · 05-13-2009, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

3.8 John Marshall, Justice Minister, American, Pre-20th Century

was wondering when he would go.

good pick

Abe Sargent · 05-13-2009, 04:49 PM

ntndeacon and Danny are here. We could knock out two more boom and boom

Lathum · 05-13-2009, 04:52 PM

I'll be around for the most part as well

DaddyTorgo · 05-13-2009, 04:52 PM

i was just praying after my last pick that nobody would go justice + USA and block me.

there are maybe a couple others that i could have picked from around the world, but marshall was an institution in and of himself on the early court and his rulings helped to shape the nation. i really can't ask for much more.

DaddyTorgo · 05-13-2009, 04:53 PM

it was between picking marshall now, or going with a different category this round, and frankly i didn't think the justice+usa combo would slide till 4.5

ntndeacon · 05-13-2009, 04:53 PM

CRAP!! I was gonna go US justice this round! This may take a bit.

DaddyTorgo · 05-13-2009, 04:54 PM

awesome...phew

who were you going to pick NTN?

ntndeacon · 05-13-2009, 04:58 PM

was looking at Oliver Wendall Holmes. I needed a 20th century man.

Abe Sargent · 05-13-2009, 04:58 PM

Galaril, ntn, Lathum and Danny are all here. You coud bang out ;like 5 thousand picks in ten minutes or so.

05-13-2009, 12:19 PM	#351
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05-13-2009, 12:30 PM	#353
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	From his list, Noop picks: 3.5 Imhotep, Scientist, Egypt, Pre-20th __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

05-13-2009, 12:32 PM	#356
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	Izulde sent in a list, but his picks are gone. I'll PM him. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

05-13-2009, 01:29 PM	#363
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	Sorry about that, Noop. From now on, if anyone sends me a list, please let me know if you want me to wait on using it. I can wait up to an hour before picking from it. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

05-13-2009, 01:31 PM	#364
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	I've updated the first post with all of the picks. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

05-13-2009, 12:21 PM	#352
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Oh my.

05-13-2009, 12:30 PM	#354
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Wow. I did not see that pick coming now.

05-13-2009, 12:31 PM	#355
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Makes two of us.

05-13-2009, 12:50 PM	#358
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Off to lunch. PM'd larry a bunch of picks.

05-13-2009, 01:05 PM	#361
AENeuman College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: SF	Over/under on % of people in this draft being the same as historical person draft last year? I'm going with 80% ( i know this is snarky, but Imhotep was by far the best late round surprise pick last time and i fear little surprise here) Interesting on religious picks. So far they have all been the charismatic originator, not the brilliant second generation administrator/writer/leader

05-13-2009, 01:37 PM	#365
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	I also added a timeline count so you can keep track of your pre-20th/20th picks. Remember, they have to even out at 7-7. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

05-13-2009, 01:40 PM	#366
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Noop with two good picks after a questionable first one. BK stole my 3rd rounder, so great pick there.

05-13-2009, 02:57 PM	#368
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	hmm, we seem to have stalled. Larry, I should be around to make my picks

05-13-2009, 03:48 PM	#369
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	so how soon until we use the Vikings rule?

05-13-2009, 03:52 PM	#370
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	lol __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

05-13-2009, 03:54 PM	#371
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Gah! Sorry! Just woke up __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

05-13-2009, 03:54 PM	#372
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	it's cool izulde - apparently you sent in a list but all your picks on it were already taken says larry __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

05-13-2009, 04:01 PM	#373
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Edit: Ineligible pick __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Last edited by Izulde : 05-13-2009 at 04:04 PM.

05-13-2009, 04:05 PM	#377
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	No problem. I was a bit of an idiot myself with one of my picks so I can hardly fault a sleep person for making a mistake.

05-13-2009, 04:14 PM	#378
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	3.6 Otto von Bismarck - Chief Diplomat - Pre-20th Century Largely responsible for the unification of Germany, his diplomacy and statecraft was magnificent, both in terms of bringing the independent German states together in one nation and empire and in dealing with international powers. His Iron and Blood speech is still quite famous and he greatly illustrated the practical application of Machiavelli's realist political philosophy or, as it's called in German, realpolitik. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

05-13-2009, 04:16 PM	#379
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	3.7 - William Shakespeare - Artist - England - Pre 20th

05-13-2009, 04:28 PM	#380
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Great pick with Shakespeare. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

05-13-2009, 04:28 PM	#381
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	No list from DT. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

05-13-2009, 04:31 PM	#382
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	of course not. making up a list so far ahead of time greatly limits one's ability to respond, or think creatively. i hate doing it, and thus will only do it if absolutely necessary __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

05-13-2009, 04:33 PM	#383
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Me too __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-13-2009, 04:33 PM	#384
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Otto was a solid choice for either Diplomat OR Ruler/Leader. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-13-2009, 04:42 PM	#386
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I'd agree that Bismark is a better choice in Diplomat given the strengths. A very solid pick, no doubt.

05-13-2009, 04:43 PM	#387
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	No problem. I didn't mean it in a bad way. Just wanted to let everyone know that I wouldn't be picking. We've got a really good pace going, so no worries. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

05-13-2009, 04:46 PM	#389
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	3.8 John Marshall, Justice Minister, American, Pre-20th Century __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

05-13-2009, 04:47 PM	#390
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	An obvious and solid choice. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-13-2009, 04:47 PM	#391
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Nice. I was thinking about a Supreme Court Justice myself, but couldn't decide on what one. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

05-13-2009, 04:49 PM	#393
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	ntndeacon and Danny are here. We could knock out two more boom and boom __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-13-2009, 04:52 PM	#394
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I'll be around for the most part as well

05-13-2009, 04:52 PM	#395
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	i was just praying after my last pick that nobody would go justice + USA and block me. there are maybe a couple others that i could have picked from around the world, but marshall was an institution in and of himself on the early court and his rulings helped to shape the nation. i really can't ask for much more. __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

05-13-2009, 04:53 PM	#396
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	it was between picking marshall now, or going with a different category this round, and frankly i didn't think the justice+usa combo would slide till 4.5 __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.