WW CXLIV: Monty Python and the Holy Werewolf: GAME OVER (Result in Post 414)

[Zinto]

So why did we have a vote on Henry and what are the other reasons people are voting DV?

[Zinto]

I still am sticking to my guns and not voting for Chief so I am wondering what others are thinking and I left this post for ten minutes without posting it.

[henry296]

Sorry for note being around during the day. I almost posted during lunch but pulled back into work. At least I didn't miss much.

To me it is between Chief Rum or Autumn.

The case for Chief Rum is that he has been on the block the last two days and survived. Therefore, it will shed more light on what happened even if it might case suspcions on me.

For Autumn, it comes down to his reveal. I'm having a hard time believe that all of the villager / neutral roles are in the game, so if he is telling the truth, it means no seer or no Galahad/Zoot/Dingo. I believe that we have the later group and a seer to try to scan Dingo.

vote Autumn

[Zinto]

As I read back I forgot Autumn revealed.

[Zinto]

I would like to vote ntn as well since he is too quiet and it is day three so I won't feel bad plus he has less posts than mckerney right now.

[Autumn]

I think the vote on Henry was because of his last minute pile-on last night. Darth, because he was one of hte only voters on Chief Rum left?

[Zinto]

I think I am going to place my vote on ntn. I will leave Autumn alone for a night. I am wondering where everyone else is today since we are looking at another crazy deadline.

Vote ntn

[ntndeacon]

My thoughts are to put to rest the miraculous save Chief Rum got yesterday. So I have to find out where he lies.

Vote Chief Rum

[JAG]

Day 3 voting as of post 358:
3 Chief Rum - Autumn (339), Darth Vilus (343), ntndeacon (358)
2 Darth Vilus - Coffee Warlord (340), Chief Rum (341)
1 Autumn - henry296 (353)
1 henry296 - bhlloy (333)
1 ntndeacon - Zinto (357)

[Darth Vilus]

5 candidates? Really, 5 candidates? wow we're a united bunch we are

[mauchow]

Not sure where I want to go tonight - I'd go to Autumn again because that's where I was yesterday but I don't want to create a third candidate; but I guess that wouldn't be the end of the world either. But at the same time in the back of my mind Autumn's reveal just sits there. I honestly thought it was an unnecessary reveal because he was not leading and also because according to the rules, the wolves know one role that is not in the game. That's an ass kicker to us. How long are we going to trust him before going after him?

I guess we just have to hope the seer is in the game and that Autumn's been scanned so we know once and for all. To that point, I remember earlier people were talking about the possible combinations being in the game. If there is a seer, is it likely/unlikely that Prince Herbert is in the game? Meaning, if the seer is in the game would there be reason that Herbert wouldn't be?....so we'd know he was a wolf or not without wasting a scan on him?

Just trying to think out loud a little.

[bhlloy]

I'll consolidate a bit. Sorry CR, I think there's a decent chance you are a villager but I don't see DV as a wolf either and this will tell us something about the first two days

Vote Chief Rum

[bhlloy]

Sorry, my bad

unvote henry
vote chief rum

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by Autumn

I think the vote on Henry was because of his last minute pile-on last night. Darth, because he was one of hte only voters on Chief Rum left?

yeah I had a vote on henry because a) his last minute pile on for no reason and b) he's been quiet and hasn't got any votes so far and I wanted to try and get some movement

as you can see, that didn't go anywhere so I'm pulling it back off

[mauchow]

Do we need to read into CR's lack of a fight towards the end here?

[henry296]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

Not sure where I want to go tonight - I'd go to Autumn again because that's where I was yesterday but I don't want to create a third candidate; but I guess that wouldn't be the end of the world either. But at the same time in the back of my mind Autumn's reveal just sits there. I honestly thought it was an unnecessary reveal because he was not leading and also because according to the rules, the wolves know one role that is not in the game. That's an ass kicker to us. How long are we going to trust him before going after him?

I guess we just have to hope the seer is in the game and that Autumn's been scanned so we know once and for all. To that point, I remember earlier people were talking about the possible combinations being in the game. If there is a seer, is it likely/unlikely that Prince Herbert is in the game? Meaning, if the seer is in the game would there be reason that Herbert wouldn't be?....so we'd know he was a wolf or not without wasting a scan on him?

Just trying to think out loud a little.

Right now there are just two un-verified villager roles the seer and Pince Herbert. If ther seer is in the game then all villager roles are in the game which feels a bit unlikely.

[henry296]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

Do we need to read into CR's lack of a fight towards the end here?

That was one of the reasons I was willing to move off him last night.

[JAG]

Day 3 voting as of post 367:
4 Chief Rum - Autumn (339), Darth Vilus (343), ntndeacon (358), bhlloy (363)
2 Darth Vilus - Coffee Warlord (340), Chief Rum (341)
1 Autumn - henry296 (353)
1 ntndeacon - Zinto (357)

Will be on and off until deadline

[mauchow]

I'm not getting any feeling on DV at all so I'm not going to go there. For Autumn yesterday the reveal will just have to be good enough for me for now.

I'm going to follow Zinto on this one rather than pile on CR. I think I followed him yesterday, too. Whatever.

vote ntn

[Autumn]

I think it's good to lay this Chief thing to rest. If he's bad I think we'll be able to ferret out the other wolf/wolves. If he's good it will clear a few people too.

[JAG]

Deadline.

[JAG]

Final Day 3 voting:

4 Chief Rum - Autumn (339), Darth Vilus (343), ntndeacon (358), bhlloy (363)
2 Darth Vilus - Coffee Warlord (340), Chief Rum (341)
2 ntndeacon - Zinto (357), mauboy1 (369)
1 Autumn - henry296 (353)

[JAG]

For days, Chief Rum has protested that he is simply a member of an autonomous collective. Yet every day he has attracted more and more suspicion. Today it comes to a head as he is trying to explain how his collective functions: "Look, all decisions of the executive officer have to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting by simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs..." It's too much for you. You all rush him, yelling at him to be quiet and putting him down with a series of blows. After his death, you're able to more closely examine his clothes and stench and you realize he had been telling you the truth all along.

Chief Rum was part of an autonomous collective.

Will be back shortly with the final part of Day 3.

[Coffee Warlord]

Le sigh.

[JAG]

Suddenly a police car pulls up. "We have an arrest warrant for a King Arthur. Please come with us sir." Zinto protests that they have the wrong man, but it does no good. He is loaded into the car and taken away.

Zinto was King Arthur

Day 4 now begins. Deadline is Monday at 10pm EST.

[mauchow]

We are eff'd if there are three wolves remaining.

[Coffee Warlord]

Knights! Problem solved.

Sir Bedevere the Wise, Sir Bedevere the All Knowing has studied Darth Vilus, and found him to be a witch. BURN HIM! BURN HIM!

Day 1 was NTN. Good.
Day 2 was Chief Rum. Good. I tried, I really tried to lay as much hints as I dared there. Granted, I was gone most of this evening, but with no bodyguard, it's been rough.

Day 3 I hit paydirt.

Vote Darth Vilus

[bhlloy]

[quote=Coffee Warlord;2613558]Knights! Problem solved.

Sir Bedevere the Wise, Sir Bedevere the All Knowing has studied Darth Vilus, and found him to be a witch. BURN HIM! BURN HIM!

Day 1 was NTN. Good.
Day 2 was Chief Rum. Good. I tried, I really tried to lay as much hints as I dared there. Granted, I was gone most of this evening, but with no bodyguard, it's been rough.

Day 3 I hit paydirt.

Vote Darth Vilus[/QUOTE

reveal fail

I'm bedevere, DV is definitely good but I did hit a wolf last night. Mauboy was my scan and you (obviously). Danny was my night two scan and then he was knocked off.

I'm guessing CR is good as you wouldn't risk the whole game on trying to clear another wolf.

what do I win?

[mauchow]

I was your scan last night and came up wolfy? Did I now?

vote bhhloy

[bhlloy]

that's cool, you guys can lynch me today and once I show up as the real seer, you've lost anyway. So I'm not even going to fight it

Mauboy bad
CW bad

Hopefully there's only two wolves. Game over

[bhlloy]

oh and Mau, you shouldn't have tried to draw the seer out like that. one of the most obvious plays I've seen, ironically that made me change my scan from CW to you

[mauchow]

Unfortunately it is game over.

[bhlloy]

post #361 if people want to see what I'm talking about. blatant

[mauchow]

Interesting

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

I'm bedevere, DV is definitely good but I did hit a wolf last night. Mauboy was my scan and you (obviously). Danny was my night two scan and then he was knocked off.

I'm guessing CR is good as you wouldn't risk the whole game on trying to clear another wolf.

what do I win?

You win getting lynched next, considering it's pretty bloody obvious CR is good, since you just killed him. Thanks for letting us know who to vote for after DV.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

post #361 if people want to see what I'm talking about. blatant

I wasn't trying to draw a seer out by any means, I was trying to come up with a logical solution if the seer was in the game would herbert not be in the game?

I wasn't saying to come out and say so tonight - I would think one more scan would work before revealing.

[mauchow]

CW, switch to bhlloy.

[mauchow]

I command you to do so!

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

You win getting lynched next, considering it's pretty bloody obvious CR is good, since you just killed him. Thanks for letting us know who to vote for after DV.

That's fine by me. Let me do the math... I'm guessing there are 3 wolves then?

[mauchow]

bhhloy, your vote is going on yourself, by the way.

nightfall

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

CW, switch to bhlloy.

Two wolves dead either way, but if you insist.

Unvote DV
Vote Bhlloy

[Coffee Warlord]

Ah. It's like that, huh.

[mauchow]

i hope I didn't screw something up.

[bhlloy]

Let's all play "assume I'm telling the truth" (which of course I am)

So we have 7 left right now

If it's 5 villagers (or 4 villagers and zoot), 2 wolves
I get lynched tonight and a wolf kill that's 3 villagers 2 wolves, then what order do things get processed? I think we can still win anyway. no?

If it's 4 villagers, bunny and wolves - and you lynch me tonight we lose

If it's 3 wolves and you lynch me tonight, we lose also

So basically, other villagers need to make the right call on this. Look at Mau trying to draw out the seer in #361, look at the timing of the reveal and make the decision

[bhlloy]

Also guys, as wolves I wouldn't be playing this weird double game between you right now. Shouldn't you be trying to distance yourselves from each other, not telling each other what to do?

I would love to see the PM's flying about between you guys right now

[mauchow]

I don't know who CW is - maybe Dingo?

[mauchow]

Wouldn't Dingo scan as good though?

[mauchow]

Did you say you scanned me and CW last night?

[bhlloy]

actually guys, it's simpler than looking at post #361

if anyone can answer me the following question, I guess you should lynch me

why would I possibly counter your reveal if it was true, knowing that either I or DV would show up bad this evening? Why would I lose the game like that (and assuming 2 wolves, it would assuredly lose the game)

villagers, if you can answer that and it makes sense to you by all means vote for me. otherwise, let's win this game

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

Did you say you scanned me and CW last night?

no, I had an order in to scan CW. After your post calling out the seer, I switched it to you.

but obviously CW is bad, considering he fake revealed and all