Werewolf XVIII: To Crown a King (GAME OVER)

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I'm still trying to work out the math from the Day 1 votes. Some questions:

Do leader votes count for double points?

What constitutes the first vote? Does Vince get credited for it, since he voted for Blade first, or do I, since mine was the first vote that remained?

Man, they killed dubb and hoops.

Pass I'm fairly certain that you received the -2 for the first vote cast.

I think I have a very good read on 2 assassins and for now:

VOTE MCSWEENY EXECUTE

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

Might be fatal, but I'd hope it wouldn't be...

I'll come clean, I guess... I've been trying to separate myself from my faction a little bit, and that was just a little bit over the top (as I now obviously see)...

I suspect I'll have several people vouch for me before the day is over.

I have no idea what's going on (I hate jumping in the middle of games since it always seems as if it's a test of endurance to read through the thread), but why would your vote be fatal?

[RPI-Fan]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I have no idea what's going on (I hate jumping in the middle of games since it always seems as if it's a test of endurance to read through the thread), but why would your vote be fatal?

The implication is that since I said "I don't even know who my faction leader is", I'm an assassin (as every non-assassin is either a faction leader, or is told who their faction leader is).

As I've explained, I've been trying to separate myself from my faction. The initial statement I made was a little bit over the top, obviously, and required some explanation.

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by George W Bush

Since 2 other people have already stated that was in their message, it would be smart for an assassin to just copy what they said. So if you wouldn't mind, post what the first word in the message you got on night 0 was, then someone can vouch for you.

Faction

[Desnudo]

Evens odds to me one way or the other. Vote Mr. Wednesday Execute.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

As I've explained, I've been trying to separate myself from my faction. The initial statement I made was a little bit over the top, obviously, and required some explanation.

What is your reasoning for wanting to seperate yourself from your faction?

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

What is your reasoning for wanting to seperate yourself from your faction?

I'd like to hear RPI's answer to that as well.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I'd like to hear RPI's answer to that as well.

because he's a terrible werewolf player, obviously

[McSweeny]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

because he's a terrible werewolf player, obviously

that very well may be the case, but i'm sure he has some other reasoning

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

because he's a terrible werewolf player, obviously

I don't know what that's supposed to mean.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Man, they killed dubb and hoops.

Pass I'm fairly certain that you received the -2 for the first vote cast.

I think I have a very good read on 2 assassins and for now:

VOTE MCSWEENY EXECUTE

Almost everything in this post confuses me.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Is there a current vote count?

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Almost everything in this post confuses me.

It's all about points. I'm trying to get my faction in a better position to score more points.

[Raiders Army]

VOTE COFFEE WARLORD EXECUTE

Just because he's reading the thread and I've read the rules about five times and I'm still a little clueless as to what's going on.

[Joe]

Originally Posted by George W Bush

Since 2 other people have already stated that was in their message, it would be smart for an assassin to just copy what they said. So if you wouldn't mind, post what the first word in the message you got on night 0 was, then someone can vouch for you.

Originally Posted by Desnudo

Faction

Ok, I am now 100% sure that Desnudo is not an assasin. And if he received the -3.5 points on the vote, I should be able to figure out something based on the points.

[Barkeep49]

A friendly reminder that

Originally Posted by the rules

Please do not post any PMs you might receive from me. Feel free to paraphrase but outright posting is not allowed.

Leader messages count as PMs recieved from me.
Thanks

[Joe]

but that was only 1/10 of the message I thought that rule was against posting the whole thing or something like that, I guess hoops was right.

[hoopsguy]

This seems like a good time for my first:

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[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by George W Bush

but that was only 1/10 of the message I thought that rule was against posting the whole thing or something like that, I guess hoops was right.

The idea behind the rule is to not make it impossible for the wolves (assassins) to hide amongst the villagers (nobles).

[Desnudo]

My bad, sorry.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Desnudo

My bad, sorry.

I understand no real malice was meant hence the "friendly" reminder

[RPI-Fan]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I'd like to hear RPI's answer to that as well.

You know what, I'm a noble, and I don't really need to give one. For some reason some people think that if you aren't a bad guy you can't employ any semi-unique strategies. I played an unusual game two times ago, and helped carry my villager team to victory. Last time, I went a little bit out of the box, and I got killed early, though my villager team did gain some info and were able to make it competitive.

[TazFTW]

Mr. Wednesday - Coffee Warlord(j), Saldana(e), st.cronin(e), Desnudo(e),
McSweeny - RPI-Fan(e), kingfc22(e)
RPI-Fan - Passaglia(e)
Coffee Warlord - RaidersArmy(e)

If my calculations are correct, that is the current count.

[kingfc22]

Coffee votes JAIL MR. WEDNESDAY (1)
RPI votes EXECUTE MCSWEENY (1)
Pass votes EXECUTE RPI (1)
Saldana votes EXECUTE MR. WEDNESDAY (2)
St. Cronin votes EXECUTE MR. WEDNESDAY (3)
King votes EXECUTE MCSWEENY (2)
Raiders votes EXECUTE COFFEE (1)

[kingfc22]

Finally went back to look at the order of the votes and I am going to have to change my vote.

UNVOTE EXECUTE MCSWEENY

VOTE EXECUTE MR. W

[Schmidty]

Putting my daughter to bed and then making sweet love to my wife, so this is my choice (explainations tomorrow):

VOTE EXECUTE MR. WEDNESDAY

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

You know what, I'm a noble, and I don't really need to give one.

Actually, after reading this horribly weak excuse, I change my vote:

UNVOTE MR. WEDNESDAY

VOTE RPI EXECUTE

[Coffee Warlord]

Btw, if anyone's wondering. I voted to jail because if I'm reading this right, I get more points being the first to vote for jailing an assassin than I do for executing. I think that how those points are awarded, anyway.

[Schmidty]

Fast Talking Noble
If targeted by the assassins to be killed, this smooth talker will convince the assassins that he is on their side and becomes an assassin. This Noble will still recieve all messages from the Noble leader but will not count towards his former faction for point and voting purposes. If the known Noble Leader dies after the Fast Talking Noble has become an assassin, he will not learn the identity of the new Noble Leader. Nobles won’t know if they’re a fast enough talker until targeted by the assassins and it is possible that the Assassins will only put up with so many "fast talkers" before they will start to ignore such people. This Noble may have an additional role, but will lose those role's powers if they become an assassin.

RPI, I think this is why you can't/refuse to tell us your "strategy", hence my vote.

If I die tonight, I think this would be even more obvious to the survivors.

[RPI-Fan]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

RPI, I think this is why you can't/refuse to tell us your "strategy", hence my vote.

If I die tonight, I think this would be even more obvious to the survivors.

Glad you're happy to waste some of your team's points on a wild-ass guess.

[Joe]

based on what I've read thus far and on the PM earlier today:


VOTE EXECUTE MR WEDNESDAY

[McSweeny]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

RPI, I think this is why you can't/refuse to tell us your "strategy", hence my vote.

If I die tonight, I think this would be even more obvious to the survivors.

i am nearly 100 percent behind executing Mr. W tonight, however i think we'll have to take a hard look at RPI tomorrow. The bit about not knowing anyone else in his faction OR his faction leader really bothers me

VOTE MR. WEDNESDAY EXECUTE

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

Glad you're happy to waste some of your team's points on a wild-ass guess.

You sure sound desperate.

[RPI-Fan]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

You sure sound desperate.

You know what, I'm not.

I'm hoping to get my team some good points tonight if we can execute someone who has done nothing to refute the charges against him (McSweeny), probably because at this piont he just doesn't want to incriminate his cohorts.

If I get killed, I have confidence that my team will still pull out a positive result. While I'm alive, I'm going to worry about figuring out how to accumulate our points instead of squabbling over semantics.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I don't know what the heck RPI-Fan is doing, but I usually don't know what the heck he's doing, and he's batting 0.500 with it so far.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Seems like I'm stuck here, but just on the chance that I can salvage something here,
VOTE MCSWEENY EXECUTE

[Barkeep49]

According to my records we are missing 3 votes.

[TazFTW]

I have my suspicions about someone else but it be fruitless to go with it with Mr. W having a commanding lead.

Vote Mr. Wednesday Execute

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

If I get killed, I have confidence that my team will still pull out a positive result.

But why would you care if you've already distanced yourself from them? I asked that with honest interest, and I got a defensive, non-explainative answer, and now this. What the fuck are people supposed to think?

I think it's obvious at this point.

[RPI-Fan]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

But why would you care if you've already distanced yourself from them? I asked that with honest interest, and I got a defensive, non-explainative answer, and now this. What the fuck are people supposed to think?

I think it's obvious at this point.

What good does it do me to associate myself with my team? Yes, I'd like to see "the nobles" win. But I'd rather my faction get a major victory. I think confusing the other noble faction will help with that, as my boys will have my back as much as I'd have their's.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

What good does it do me to associate myself with my team? Yes, I'd like to see "the nobles" win. But I'd rather my faction get a major victory. I think confusing the other noble faction will help with that, as my boys will have my back as much as I'd have their's.

But making yourself a target doesn't help your faction, it makes you look like a turned noble. I don't know what else to say, other than you either made a huge mistake, or a really bad strategical blunder.

No offense, as I've messed up in other games too. I just want to help my faction win.

[st.cronin]

I don't really know what to think of RPI fans strategy but I will say it is very, very clear to me that he is in the same faction as me ... the only other noble I am sure about at this point is ardent, who I *think* is also in my faction.

[RPI-Fan]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

But making yourself a target doesn't help your faction, it makes you look like a turned noble. I don't know what else to say, other than you either made a huge mistake, or a really bad strategical blunder.

No offense, as I've messed up in other games too. I just want to help my faction win.

See, my view is that as a true noble I have nothing to fear... It's helped me in one game, and hurt me in another.

I'm willing to take my chances here, as I think a positive result is very much there for the taking, as we already have some good information on the assassins.

[Vince]

Hrm. Mr. Wednesday seems a lost cause -- I think that's a good thing, but I'm not sure. With Dubb and Hoops out today, there wasn't as much activity as I'd like (though that's partly my fault, as I wasn't here). Tomorrow should be better, as I don't work until the evening, and I only have to run to the post office.

For now, I'm going to go in a different direction -- Mr. Wednesday seems to be up shit creek without a paddle, and though there might be points to be gained, I think extra votes on him aren't helping any at this point. Hopefully we can make use of the information gained by my play tomorrow. I don't have much on this, other than the fact that I definitely know he's moving in the wrong direction.

Vote Schmidty Execute.

[Raiders Army]

Just FYI, I'm in a class all day today and my son has a orchestra concert tonight at 7 EST.

[Poli]

I think I'm one of the votes missing.

Vote Mr. Wednesday Execute.

[Passacaglia]

I'm going to keep my vote on RPI, to see what it does to my faction's point total.

[Barkeep49]

The day was pretty quiet. For whatever reason people seem pretty sure about their votes and there seems to be very little doubt about who is going to go. Even Mr. Wednesday seems very calm with what is happening. Rather than being executed, he takes a poisen offered to him and dies a quick and mostly painless death. Following his death there is the ritual searching of his room. And to nobodies surprise, several violent instruments are found, as are several letters with seditous writings. Mr. Wednesday was indeed an ASSASSIN. As the nobles sit down for dinner the spymaster posts a sheet of paper with the following written on it:

Faction A 2.5
Faction B 8
Faction C .5




Vote count was:

Wednesday 9 (8e, 1j): George W Bush, Ardent enthusiast, McSweeny, TazFTW, st.cronin, Saldana, Coffee Warlord, Kingfc22, Desnudo

RPI-Fan 2 (2e): Schmidty, Passacaglia

Coffee 1 (1e): Raiders Army

Schmidty 1 (1e): Vince


Night actions are due by 10 PM Eastern.

[Blade6119]

lol, eventually people will respect me in this game to the point if i say something it will be believed to some degree.....oh well, keep it up nobles. Im back to this:

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[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

lol, eventually people will respect me in this game to the point if i say something it will be believed to some degree.....oh well, keep it up nobles. Im back to this:

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Dude. You're Blade. Somehow, someway, you die first.