2010 Football Betting Thread - Page 8

Flasch186 · 09-21-2010, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CleBrownsfan

Anyone else feel Saints -6 is like taking candy from a baby?

Anyhow- I'm taking the Saints and the over(44)...

Wow, that was one strong baby. We look like idiots failing to take the candy from that frickin' baby.

weegeebored · 09-21-2010, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by weegeebored

Last week: 3-0 Season-to-date: 3-0

NFL Week 2

Texans -3
Saints -6
Patriots -3

This week: 0-2-1 Season-to-date: 3-2-1

A weird season so far. There are some teams that I just can't figure out yet (Jets, 49ers, etc.). Should be interesting the rest of the way.

CleBrownsfan · 09-21-2010, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186

Wow, that was one strong baby. We look like idiots failing to take the candy from that frickin' baby.

yeah yeah

If Bush doesn't go down it's a different ballgame

Lathum · 09-21-2010, 09:38 AM

Who knew Alex Smith would channel Steve Young for a series.

Suicane75 · 09-22-2010, 08:22 AM

My card so far is as such,

Miami -4, I just think they're too strong for Pitt.

SC +3, I really think this is the year the Gamecocks make some noise. Loved them against Georgia and love them here.

Oklahoma -14, I think this line is alot lower than it would of been had they not been tested by Air Force but I think they bounce back and win a blowout here.

NC State +8 1/2, Not a believer in GT at all. I'm fully aware of the potential for the option to go nuts but I love the NCS QB and think this will be a close one.

Stanford -4 1/2, Maybe i'm Cardinal crazy but they look like a legit contender and I think they can score on this ND defense.

Suicane75 · 09-22-2010, 08:27 AM

Dola, I really wish the Temple line was a few points higher. For all the talk of PSU opening things up a few years back they have sort of regressed in their playcalling.

Temple is a solid and experienced team on both sides of the ball and this will likely be the biggest game these kids ever play. -14 is the perfect line to scare me though.

Bigsmooth · 09-22-2010, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicane75

Dola, I really wish the Temple line was a few points higher. For all the talk of PSU opening things up a few years back they have sort of regressed in their playcalling.

Temple is a solid and experienced team on both sides of the ball and this will likely be the biggest game these kids ever play. -14 is the perfect line to scare me though.

Was able to get Temple at +16.5 on Monday. Of course I teased them to +21.5 along with pitt +8.5 and nc state +13.5. Have a hunch I'll need that tease for pitt at the very least.

Desnudo · 09-22-2010, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Who knew Alex Smith would channel Steve Young for a series.

Vegas. I feel like Mr. Burns to their Maggie to continue the lollipop analogy.

jbergey22 · 09-22-2010, 11:34 PM

I like your Temple play. I think I will tail you two.

Temple has most of their team back from last year and have a solid running game and defense. Makes it seem like they can keep this close enough to cover.

Lathum · 09-23-2010, 05:33 PM

I have no feel for tonights game. I am tempted to take the under just because I feel like Pitt is going to try and play a grind it ground control game.

I other news I have been doing really well betting baseball. I have basically been riding the under for SF, SD, and Seattle games and I see a really odd line tonight.

San Fran has scored 1 run its last 2 games and the over/under for their game against the Cubs tonight is 12.5, the wind must be blowing out like crazy at Wrigley. I am taking the over and hoping for a wild one.

Flasch186 · 09-23-2010, 05:37 PM

anyone had a look at some of Sunday's NFL lines? Some of the spreads look huge but I couldnt dive into any (like it matters anyways)

kingfc22 · 09-23-2010, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

San Fran has scored 1 run its last 2 games and the over/under for their game against the Cubs tonight is 12.5, the wind must be blowing out like crazy at Wrigley. I am taking the over and hoping for a wild one.

The game just started and the wind is blowing out to center. Blowing about 15-30MPH.

Lathum · 09-23-2010, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

The game just started and the wind is blowing out to center. Blowing about 15-30MPH.

6-0 Sf in the second with the bases loaded.

Lathum · 09-23-2010, 06:48 PM

10 nothing, bases are no longer loaded...

jbergey22 · 09-24-2010, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I have no feel for tonights game. I am tempted to take the under just because I feel like Pitt is going to try and play a grind it ground control game.

I other news I have been doing really well betting baseball. I have basically been riding the under for SF, SD, and Seattle games and I see a really odd line tonight.

San Fran has scored 1 run its last 2 games and the over/under for their game against the Cubs tonight is 12.5, the wind must be blowing out like crazy at Wrigley. I am taking the over and hoping for a wild one.

Good call! Didnt even need the Cubs to do a fucking thing.

Lathum · 09-24-2010, 01:14 AM

Thanks, and man, Pitt is terrible.

RainMaker · 09-24-2010, 02:17 AM

Doesn't Oregon State +18 seem real high to you guys? I know they have been playing shit defense and it's in Boise, but that's a big number.

Suicane75 · 09-24-2010, 04:09 AM

Adding,
Alabama -7 1/2
Texas -16 1/2
Northwestern -7
West Virginia +10, may throw some down on the ML here as well.

Looking at Temple & Kentucky as well, maybe even small ML play on each of those games.

Lathum · 09-24-2010, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Doesn't Oregon State +18 seem real high to you guys? I know they have been playing shit defense and it's in Boise, but that's a big number.

It does seem huge.

OSU almost beat a great TCU team in Texas and can run the ball just about as good as anyone in college football. Plus BSU struggled against a Va Tech team that we now know isn't very good. The Rogers brothers are college footballs best kept secret, especially Quizz. I'll be on OSU for sure.

Lathum · 09-24-2010, 08:55 AM

One of my best friends who works for the Rutgers program informed me I should take the under in their game no matter what, he said no way they move the ball against UNC.

Lathum · 09-24-2010, 04:02 PM

Really like the over 55 in tonights game as well as TCU -18. They are the only game in town tonight and they are going to want to showcase how good they are.

Suicane75 · 09-24-2010, 06:12 PM

Jumped on the over 56 -105 cause why the hell not.

Lathum, you looking at any totals tomorrow?

Lathum · 09-24-2010, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicane75

Lathum, you looking at any totals tomorrow?

Sure will be. I am heading to happy hour right now and will probably check out tomorrows games after my son goes to bed.

k0ruptr · 09-24-2010, 06:27 PM

you guys really think TCU will allow SMU to score some, I'm assuming somewhat if your taking the over. I like smu , and June Jones but I feel this is a bad matchup for them and TCU might in fact just shut them down big time.

Suicane75 · 09-24-2010, 06:54 PM

Honestly don't know man. I'm just guessing maximum drives for SMU due to their style may allow them a couple scores. Expecting TCU to score a ton but afraid to pull the trigger on them now at -19.

lynchjm24 · 09-24-2010, 06:56 PM

I have to tailgate at 8 am tomorrow (Buffalo is in town, I know you are jealous), so it's time to get my wagers in.

TCU -19 for something to watch tonight
Va Tech -4
Connecticut -20 since I have to sit through it
Air Force -14
Temple +14
Idaho -8
Penn State u43
NC State +260 m/l
Stanford -5
Notre Dame o59
Parlay UConn/Idaho/Stanford

k0ruptr · 09-24-2010, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicane75

Honestly don't know man. I'm just guessing maximum drives for SMU due to their style may allow them a couple scores. Expecting TCU to score a ton but afraid to pull the trigger on them now at -19.

exactly how I felt, I put a little bit on the over but couldn't pull the trigger on TCU -18 or SMU +18 lol

Lathum · 09-24-2010, 08:51 PM

Fuck, I really needed SMU to score a TD at the end there.

Lathum · 09-24-2010, 08:55 PM

Glad I took the second half over

k0ruptr · 09-24-2010, 08:59 PM

Glad I got in on the over, looking decent so far

also glad I didn't bet on TCU, but they could def still cover regardless.

Bigsmooth · 09-24-2010, 10:40 PM

Going with a lot of non-teaser plays tomorrow, to name a few I really like:
Stanford -4.5
I would be hesitant here with a big Oregon game looming for Stanford but I think Harbaugh is one of the top 5 coaches in America and his guys will be ready. It's Notre Dame for crap sakes, not hard to get up for this one if you are a Stanford kid.

Nevada -4
A lot of people are worried that Nevada will have a letdown game after killing Cal. But BYU has been destroyed on the ground and I just don't see how Kaepernick and company can be stopped. Plus, BYU has a lot of injuries, including the 2nd half of their two-headed QB monster. That's a big loss since he was the wiley scrambler and tough to game plan for both very different QB's style wise. True FR Heaps goes all day and I don't see him completing 50 percent of his passes.

Oregon -11.5
Arizona St was able to hang with Wisconsin last week on the road. That's because Wisky plays a slow, grind it out style that Arizona State's physical defense could contain. Not so much against the speed of Oregon. Love Oregon in this spot.

Also on:
Boise St -17.5
Troy -10.5
Kansas St/UCF OVER 45
Air Force -13.5
NC State +8.5
West Virginia +9.5
So Miss -3.5

Lathum · 09-24-2010, 10:41 PM

I love Stanford tomorrow. I can't figure out if it is a busted line because of East Coast bias or if I am missing something.

Bigsmooth · 09-24-2010, 11:16 PM

I think people just think Stanford is due for a letdown on the road. Plus they are without their #1 WR Whalen(Whaley?) Notre Dame coming off 2 tough losses at home will bring their A game. Kelly will have them ready no doubt. I just think Stanford is a machine, remind me of Drago...haha. All business.

Lathum · 09-25-2010, 08:53 AM

Early Games-

Mich-Bowling Green- +58- Mich defense stinks and Bowling Green can score.

Iowa -28- I bought the half point. They are going to be very angry and take it out on Ball State

Va Tech-BC- +47- No Williams means throwing the ball more for Tech

NC State +8= Still can't figure out why they are getting so many points with a QB as good as theirs

Lathum · 09-25-2010, 08:54 AM

Jumped on Northwestern with you all, everyone seems to like them

Suicane75 · 09-25-2010, 10:42 AM

My final ticket,

NC State +8 1/2
Northwestern -7
Mich/BG +56
Iowa -28
Tennessee -14
Air Force -14
Texas -16 1/2
Stanford -4 1/2
Alabama -7 1/2
Oklahoma -14
South Carolina +3
West Virginia +10
Utep -12

No double downs, no teasers or parlays, just straight up plays. I've been killing myself with money management and losing my big bets the first couple weeks, as I am want to do, so I'm trying to just play it straight. Laying alot of chalk but so be it. Will likely add more later.

Bigsmooth · 09-25-2010, 11:57 AM

Looks like a lot of us are gonna be happy with that NC State pick.

Lathum · 09-25-2010, 12:27 PM

Denard Robinson going down could screw the over for me.

Suicane75 · 09-25-2010, 01:41 PM

Looking at adding some half plays, Idaho, Nevada & NC

Lathum · 09-25-2010, 01:46 PM

Army-Duke- Love the over 55. The fewest points Duke has given up this year is 27, and that was to powerhouse elon.

USC-Wazzou- I refuse to take USC -23 since they have burned me every game this year, which means they win 55-3. Instead taking the over 55/ Wazzou has shown they can somewhat score this year.

Lathum · 09-25-2010, 01:50 PM

Parlayed the +55 in Army with +60 in ND-Stan

Suicane75 · 09-25-2010, 02:05 PM

Added Idaho -8 and Nevada -4 1/2 Full plays.

Lathum · 09-25-2010, 02:19 PM

3:30 games-

Stanford -4.5 and +60. Stanford is that good. ND knows they will need to score to win. I see a 45-31 type score.

Rutgers -44 vs. UNC. One of my best friends works for RU football and says no way RU will move the ball on USC.

PSU-14 vs. Temple- Been a lot of talk about how Temple can keep it close, I don't think they can.

Wake-FSU +62. Wake is not very good defensively.

Tulane-Huston -56. UH just isn't the same offense without Keenum

UCLA-UT +43. Hard to imagine they cant get to that number

Bama-Ark-+57. I think it will be a shootout.

Suicane75 · 09-25-2010, 02:27 PM

Added half bets on UNC -3 and Temple +14. Everything about UNC screams trap but I can't believe they arn't slightly better at the very least than Rutgers. The Temple one? I'm just rooting.

Suicane75 · 09-25-2010, 02:29 PM

With Lathum on the Stanford and Alabama overs.

Lathum · 09-25-2010, 02:33 PM

4-2 to start the day. I made a nice score with the second half over in the NC state game.

Lathum · 09-25-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by HiFiRevival

Late Central Michigan TD screws the line vs Northwestern.

Blah- I had already chalked that up as a win.

09-23-2010, 05:37 PM	#362
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09-24-2010, 06:27 PM	#375
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	you guys really think TCU will allow SMU to score some, I'm assuming somewhat if your taking the over. I like smu , and June Jones but I feel this is a bad matchup for them and TCU might in fact just shut them down big time. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

09-24-2010, 06:56 PM	#377
lynchjm24 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hartford	I have to tailgate at 8 am tomorrow (Buffalo is in town, I know you are jealous), so it's time to get my wagers in. TCU -19 for something to watch tonight Va Tech -4 Connecticut -20 since I have to sit through it Air Force -14 Temple +14 Idaho -8 Penn State u43 NC State +260 m/l Stanford -5 Notre Dame o59 Parlay UConn/Idaho/Stanford Last edited by lynchjm24 : 09-24-2010 at 06:59 PM.

09-24-2010, 08:59 PM	#381
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	Glad I got in on the over, looking decent so far also glad I didn't bet on TCU, but they could def still cover regardless. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

09-25-2010, 02:33 PM	#399
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	4-2 to start the day. I made a nice score with the second half over in the NC state game. Last edited by Lathum : 09-25-2010 at 02:33 PM.

09-21-2010, 09:38 AM	#354
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Who knew Alex Smith would channel Steve Young for a series.

09-22-2010, 08:22 AM	#355
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	My card so far is as such, Miami -4, I just think they're too strong for Pitt. SC +3, I really think this is the year the Gamecocks make some noise. Loved them against Georgia and love them here. Oklahoma -14, I think this line is alot lower than it would of been had they not been tested by Air Force but I think they bounce back and win a blowout here. NC State +8 1/2, Not a believer in GT at all. I'm fully aware of the potential for the option to go nuts but I love the NCS QB and think this will be a close one. Stanford -4 1/2, Maybe i'm Cardinal crazy but they look like a legit contender and I think they can score on this ND defense.

09-22-2010, 08:27 AM	#356
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Dola, I really wish the Temple line was a few points higher. For all the talk of PSU opening things up a few years back they have sort of regressed in their playcalling. Temple is a solid and experienced team on both sides of the ball and this will likely be the biggest game these kids ever play. -14 is the perfect line to scare me though.

09-22-2010, 11:34 PM	#359
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	I like your Temple play. I think I will tail you two. Temple has most of their team back from last year and have a solid running game and defense. Makes it seem like they can keep this close enough to cover.

09-23-2010, 05:33 PM	#361
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I have no feel for tonights game. I am tempted to take the under just because I feel like Pitt is going to try and play a grind it ground control game. I other news I have been doing really well betting baseball. I have basically been riding the under for SF, SD, and Seattle games and I see a really odd line tonight. San Fran has scored 1 run its last 2 games and the over/under for their game against the Cubs tonight is 12.5, the wind must be blowing out like crazy at Wrigley. I am taking the over and hoping for a wild one.

09-23-2010, 06:48 PM	#365
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	10 nothing, bases are no longer loaded...

09-24-2010, 01:14 AM	#367
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Thanks, and man, Pitt is terrible.

09-24-2010, 02:17 AM	#368
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Doesn't Oregon State +18 seem real high to you guys? I know they have been playing shit defense and it's in Boise, but that's a big number.

09-24-2010, 04:09 AM	#369
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Adding, Alabama -7 1/2 Texas -16 1/2 Northwestern -7 West Virginia +10, may throw some down on the ML here as well. Looking at Temple & Kentucky as well, maybe even small ML play on each of those games.

09-24-2010, 08:55 AM	#371
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	One of my best friends who works for the Rutgers program informed me I should take the under in their game no matter what, he said no way they move the ball against UNC.

09-24-2010, 04:02 PM	#372
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Really like the over 55 in tonights game as well as TCU -18. They are the only game in town tonight and they are going to want to showcase how good they are.

09-24-2010, 06:12 PM	#373
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Jumped on the over 56 -105 cause why the hell not. Lathum, you looking at any totals tomorrow?

09-24-2010, 06:54 PM	#376
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Honestly don't know man. I'm just guessing maximum drives for SMU due to their style may allow them a couple scores. Expecting TCU to score a ton but afraid to pull the trigger on them now at -19.

09-24-2010, 08:51 PM	#379
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Fuck, I really needed SMU to score a TD at the end there.

09-24-2010, 08:55 PM	#380
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Glad I took the second half over

09-24-2010, 10:40 PM	#382
Bigsmooth College Prospect Join Date: Dec 2006	Going with a lot of non-teaser plays tomorrow, to name a few I really like: Stanford -4.5 I would be hesitant here with a big Oregon game looming for Stanford but I think Harbaugh is one of the top 5 coaches in America and his guys will be ready. It's Notre Dame for crap sakes, not hard to get up for this one if you are a Stanford kid. Nevada -4 A lot of people are worried that Nevada will have a letdown game after killing Cal. But BYU has been destroyed on the ground and I just don't see how Kaepernick and company can be stopped. Plus, BYU has a lot of injuries, including the 2nd half of their two-headed QB monster. That's a big loss since he was the wiley scrambler and tough to game plan for both very different QB's style wise. True FR Heaps goes all day and I don't see him completing 50 percent of his passes. Oregon -11.5 Arizona St was able to hang with Wisconsin last week on the road. That's because Wisky plays a slow, grind it out style that Arizona State's physical defense could contain. Not so much against the speed of Oregon. Love Oregon in this spot. Also on: Boise St -17.5 Troy -10.5 Kansas St/UCF OVER 45 Air Force -13.5 NC State +8.5 West Virginia +9.5 So Miss -3.5

09-24-2010, 10:41 PM	#383
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I love Stanford tomorrow. I can't figure out if it is a busted line because of East Coast bias or if I am missing something.

09-24-2010, 11:16 PM	#384
Bigsmooth College Prospect Join Date: Dec 2006	I think people just think Stanford is due for a letdown on the road. Plus they are without their #1 WR Whalen(Whaley?) Notre Dame coming off 2 tough losses at home will bring their A game. Kelly will have them ready no doubt. I just think Stanford is a machine, remind me of Drago...haha. All business.

09-25-2010, 08:53 AM	#386
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Early Games- Mich-Bowling Green- +58- Mich defense stinks and Bowling Green can score. Iowa -28- I bought the half point. They are going to be very angry and take it out on Ball State Va Tech-BC- +47- No Williams means throwing the ball more for Tech NC State +8= Still can't figure out why they are getting so many points with a QB as good as theirs

09-25-2010, 08:54 AM	#387
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Jumped on Northwestern with you all, everyone seems to like them

09-25-2010, 10:42 AM	#388
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	My final ticket, NC State +8 1/2 Northwestern -7 Mich/BG +56 Iowa -28 Tennessee -14 Air Force -14 Texas -16 1/2 Stanford -4 1/2 Alabama -7 1/2 Oklahoma -14 South Carolina +3 West Virginia +10 Utep -12 No double downs, no teasers or parlays, just straight up plays. I've been killing myself with money management and losing my big bets the first couple weeks, as I am want to do, so I'm trying to just play it straight. Laying alot of chalk but so be it. Will likely add more later.

09-25-2010, 11:57 AM	#389
Bigsmooth College Prospect Join Date: Dec 2006	Looks like a lot of us are gonna be happy with that NC State pick.

09-25-2010, 12:27 PM	#390
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Denard Robinson going down could screw the over for me.

09-25-2010, 01:41 PM	#391
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Looking at adding some half plays, Idaho, Nevada & NC

09-25-2010, 01:46 PM	#392
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Army-Duke- Love the over 55. The fewest points Duke has given up this year is 27, and that was to powerhouse elon. USC-Wazzou- I refuse to take USC -23 since they have burned me every game this year, which means they win 55-3. Instead taking the over 55/ Wazzou has shown they can somewhat score this year.

09-25-2010, 01:50 PM	#393
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Parlayed the +55 in Army with +60 in ND-Stan

09-25-2010, 02:05 PM	#394
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Added Idaho -8 and Nevada -4 1/2 Full plays.

09-25-2010, 02:19 PM	#395
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	3:30 games- Stanford -4.5 and +60. Stanford is that good. ND knows they will need to score to win. I see a 45-31 type score. Rutgers -44 vs. UNC. One of my best friends works for RU football and says no way RU will move the ball on USC. PSU-14 vs. Temple- Been a lot of talk about how Temple can keep it close, I don't think they can. Wake-FSU +62. Wake is not very good defensively. Tulane-Huston -56. UH just isn't the same offense without Keenum UCLA-UT +43. Hard to imagine they cant get to that number Bama-Ark-+57. I think it will be a shootout.

09-25-2010, 02:27 PM	#396
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Added half bets on UNC -3 and Temple +14. Everything about UNC screams trap but I can't believe they arn't slightly better at the very least than Rutgers. The Temple one? I'm just rooting.

09-25-2010, 02:29 PM	#397
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	With Lathum on the Stanford and Alabama overs.