NFL Free Agency - Page 8

DeToxRox · 03-10-2005, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

This is why I am really hoping that the Plaxico thing doesn't work out. That way the Vikes would be more apt to take a WR with that pick... I'd like to see as many WRs and RBs taken in the first ten spots as possible. The Lions have no need for either position at the Ten Spot.

I hope the Vikes get Plaxico over Braylon.

Braylon is the real deal, in my opinion, and I think Plaxico would be a huge downgrade over Braylon, who may not have the talent of Moss, but in my opinion isn't that far of a downgrade, and brings a lot of leadership to the table.

Plaxico is a big WR who has questionable habits, and isn't a great leaper. He doesn't scare me nearly as much as I think Braylon would.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-10-2005, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

I keep reading in the local papers the Lions have no worries at the RT spot. I think they feel Rogers will be as good as McDougle (I beleive its Rogers, it's been a while since I read the report) but in any case, they are two 7th round picks. Rogers has been solid though in the limited time he does see the field, and playing next to Woody will be a plus. A first three picks of Cody, Baas, Shazor would look nice.

Shazor in the third is a stretch, but he could be a guy who could sit behind Brock for a year, learn the ropes, and become a force.

Yeah, they think they can protect either Rogers or Butler with a TE and Woody. Rogers is a 4th year guy and Bulter is a 2nd year guy.

I have to look into Cody. For whatever reason, he just doesn't do it for me. Then again, not sure if any of the DE's do. I wouldn't mind Shazor. I wonder if he's fast enough to play "free safety" in the NFL. Kennedy is more of a run-supporter/hard hitting safety. Having two of those guys back there could be tough.

DeToxRox · 03-10-2005, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Yeah, they think they can protect either Rogers or Butler with a TE and Woody. Rogers is a 4th year guy and Bulter is a 2nd year guy.

I have to look into Cody. For whatever reason, he just doesn't do it for me. Then again, not sure if any of the DE's do. I wouldn't mind Shazor. I wonder if he's fast enough to play "free safety" in the NFL. Kennedy is more of a run-supporter/hard hitting safety. Having two of those guys back there could be tough.

Granted on the Shazor/Kennedy thing, but I think Shazor has the capability to be a good cover saftey. Coulda' used the extra year to develope it though. I do think our RT will be fine, and isn't worth a huge investment right now.

As far as Cody goes, I like his work ethic. I heard somewhere he had some personality issues, but I can't confirm that. Anyone else know?

He seems like he could be a solid 10-12 sack kind of guy, especially working off of Rogers and Hall because the kid doesn't quit.

Also, the OU connection with Lehman, I believe anyways, would be a nice plus.

DeToxRox · 03-10-2005, 08:51 PM

The Lions have taken over this thread. Much like they will take over the NFC North. Mwhahahaha.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-10-2005, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

The Lions have taken over this thread. Much like they will take over the NFC North. Mwhahahaha.

Indeed!

It will be interesting to see what the Lions do with this pick. First time in a while the Lions have had no huge, glaring need and are drafting low enough (it's all relative) to not be almost guaranteed to get a certain guy.

DE makes a lot of sense. CB (e.g., Rolle or Jones) doesn't make as much sense. They have too much $$ tied up in Bryant and Bly. The Pollard signing seems to remove Heath Miller from the equation and the Kennedy signing appears to have removed a trade-down for Thomas Davis scenario... Interesting times.

DeToxRox · 03-10-2005, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Indeed!

It will be interesting to see what the Lions do with this pick. First time in a while the Lions have had no huge, glaring need and are drafting low enough (it's all relative) to not be almost guaranteed to get a certain guy.

DE makes a lot of sense. CB (e.g., Rolle or Jones) doesn't make as much sense. They have too much $$ tied up in Bryant and Bly. The Pollard signing seems to remove Heath Miller from the equation and the Kennedy signing appears to have removed a trade-down for Thomas Davis scenario... Interesting times.

Indeed. The only other scenario I see is we trade down to mid 20's and pick up Baas?

Perhaps to a team who wants Rolle maybe?

I dunno what else we could possibly do at this point.

bosshogg23 · 03-10-2005, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

I keep reading in the local papers the Lions have no worries at the RT spot. I think they feel Rogers will be as good as McDougle (I beleive its Rogers, it's been a while since I read the report) but in any case, they are two 7th round picks. Rogers has been solid though in the limited time he does see the field, and playing next to Woody will be a plus. A first three picks of Cody, Baas, Shazor would look nice.

Shazor in the third is a stretch, but he could be a guy who could sit behind Brock for a year, learn the ropes, and become a force.

Shazor has been "selected" in the late 1st in a few drafts. I would be very concerned that we would have 2 big hitters and no one that can cover if we drafted Shazor(though it would be great to watch).

Rogers is definitely the one you are thinking about. He has gotten great marks so far. He is considered a poor mans Tra Thomas.

bosshogg23 · 03-10-2005, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

The Pollard signing seems to remove Heath Miller from the equation.

THANKFULLY! The 10th pick on Miller seemed ridiculous to me.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-10-2005, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bosshogg23

THANKFULLY! The 10th pick on Miller seemed ridiculous to me.

Agreed. I wasn't thrilled with the prospect of drafting him with the 10th pick either.

Kozure · 03-10-2005, 09:39 PM

I might have missed someone mentioning this but...

Ty Law visited the steelers today. For those who dont know, Law is from Pittsburgh. Could be a good pickup for the Burg if he is willing to give them a hometown discount.

bosshogg23 · 03-10-2005, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

Perhaps to a team who wants Rolle maybe?

I thought we would be interested in Rolle originally. One of the Detroit papers was suggesting the Lions cut Brock Marion. If they do that I hope Holt gets a chance to play. He seems to be all around the ball when he is on the field.

stevew · 03-10-2005, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kozure

I might have missed someone mentioning this but...

Ty Law visited the steelers today. For those who dont know, Law is from Pittsburgh. Could be a good pickup for the Burg if he is willing to give them a hometown discount.

I dont know, isnt he pretty well finished?

stevew · 03-10-2005, 09:52 PM

And i seriously doubt Law gives anyone a discount at this point.

Kozure · 03-10-2005, 09:57 PM

Law's 31...and the Steelers will only take him if he is healthy. The team isn't known for taking chances on players.

Swaggs · 03-10-2005, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kozure

I might have missed someone mentioning this but...

Ty Law visited the steelers today. For those who dont know, Law is from Pittsburgh. Could be a good pickup for the Burg if he is willing to give them a hometown discount.

I would love to see Law sign with the Steelers.

Cuckoo · 03-10-2005, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

As far as Cody goes, I like his work ethic. I heard somewhere he had some personality issues, but I can't confirm that. Anyone else know?

No personality issues. He a bout with clinical depression a few years back. He left the team and got things straightened out. All indications are that it's completely under control, although all NFL teams are asking about, rightfully so. Once something like that happens once, you have to wonder about it.

For me, the way the guy plays easily makes up for any fears about that.

Arles · 03-11-2005, 12:12 AM

I love Rivera, but this is the main reason I didn't want GB to pay over $3 mil in SB for him:

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Marco Rivera, the ex-Packers Pro Bowl guard who last week received a $9 million signing bonus to sign a free agent contract with the Cowboys, underwent back surgery Thursday in Dallas after experiencing pain while running on a treadmill, sources told ESPN's Chris Mortensen.

Rivera, 32, is expected to be inactive for four-to-six weeks after surgery that repaired a L-5 disk problem, the sources said. He experienced significant pain in a leg when he was running on a treadmill Wednesday morning in Baltimore, where he was honored at the annual Ed Bloch Awards.

Rivera underwent the operation in Dallas and was said to be resting comfortably at Presbyterian Hospital. Rivera is expected to recover in time for training camp in late July, sources said.

A Cowboys spokesman had no comment about Rivera's status.

This guy is kept up by balsa wood between his back and knees. I'd be amazed if Dallas gets more than one good season out of him.

MikeVic · 03-11-2005, 12:28 AM

Law with Pittsburgh at an affordable price would be awesome. Well, I have no idea how good he is right now afetr injuries... but I still like him.

Vinatieri for Prez · 03-11-2005, 01:05 AM

If Law didn't give NE a discount, then Pitt isn't getting one. He has said that staying in NE was his first choice.

sovereignstar · 03-11-2005, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinatieri for Prez

If Law didn't give NE a discount, then Pitt isn't getting one. He has said that staying in NE was his first choice.

Is that really your argument?

Ragone · 03-11-2005, 04:47 AM

Chiefs Sign Sammy knight.. wee

Tigercat · 03-11-2005, 05:36 AM

Chiefs better find the best scheme with which to use Sammy. If you find the scheme that lets Sammy do his free roaming thing, then he will make lots of big plays. But the more specific responsibilities you put to his safety spot, the more his shortcommings will show.

albionmoonlight · 03-11-2005, 08:24 AM

Rumors have the Saints and Raiders trading Charles Woodson for Darren Howard.

TazFTW · 03-11-2005, 01:24 PM

The Jets sign Jay Fiedler.

The Eagles sign Mike McMahon to a 2 year deal.

mckerney · 03-11-2005, 01:59 PM

Patriots | Dwight Agrees to One-Year Deal - from www.KFFL.com
Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:40:30 -0800

USAToday.com reports the New England Patriots have agreed to a one-year deal with free agent WR Tim Dwight (Chargers). Financial terms were undisclosed.

rkmsuf · 03-11-2005, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

Patriots | Dwight Agrees to One-Year Deal - from www.KFFL.com
Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:40:30 -0800

USAToday.com reports the New England Patriots have agreed to a one-year deal with free agent WR Tim Dwight (Chargers). Financial terms were undisclosed.

That's the end of Troy Brown.

FrogMan · 03-11-2005, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

Patriots | Dwight Agrees to One-Year Deal - from www.KFFL.com
Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:40:30 -0800

USAToday.com reports the New England Patriots have agreed to a one-year deal with free agent WR Tim Dwight (Chargers). Financial terms were undisclosed.

That's interesting. The minute I read they were working him out, I thought he would fit the mold here. I like that signing, nothing flashy, I just like it...

FM

Swaggs · 03-11-2005, 02:24 PM

Has Vinatieri resigned?

Any news on him, if not?

rkmsuf · 03-11-2005, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Has Vinatieri resigned?

Any news on him, if not?

franchise tag

FrogMan · 03-11-2005, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Has Vinatieri resigned?

Any news on him, if not?

They slapped the franchise tag on him, that's the last I've read about him...

FM

Joe · 03-11-2005, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Has Vinatieri resigned?

Any news on him, if not?

franchised

TazFTW · 03-11-2005, 02:39 PM

The Jay Fiedler deal is for 5 years.

Jay Glazer is reporting the San Diego Charger have told Doug Flutie that he will be released.

mckerney · 03-11-2005, 02:51 PM

No deal yet, but KFAN reports the Vikings won't let Darren Sharper leave without a contract.

rkmsuf · 03-11-2005, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

No deal yet, but KFAN reports the Vikings won't let Darren Sharper leave without a contract.

that's one way to make him sign.

Joe · 03-11-2005, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

No deal yet, but KFAN reports the Vikings won't let Darren Sharper leave without a contract.

are they offering extra superbowl tickets as an incentive?

moriarty · 03-11-2005, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonC23

Wait, so who will be the backup QB for the Bears, now that Fiedler's gone? Brad Johnson? Jeff Garcia?

Chad Hutchinson.

Or wait ... maybe Doug Flutie returns ....

JasonC23 · 03-11-2005, 03:57 PM

Wait, so who will be the backup QB for the Bears, now that Fiedler's gone? Brad Johnson? Jeff Garcia?

JasonC23 · 03-11-2005, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by moriarty

Chad Hutchinson.

Or wait ... maybe Doug Flutie returns ....

I think they should sign Jeff Garcia, personally.

Arles · 03-11-2005, 04:24 PM

They already have Jeff George

JasonC23 · 03-11-2005, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Arles

They already have Jeff George

\

Actually, the Bears released Jeff George.

I think Jerry Angelo said he got the idea that George isn't a winner from an online message board, or something...

Tigercat · 03-11-2005, 06:57 PM

New rumors in the Darren Howard situation(there is a new one every few days):

Dallas and another team(rumored to be seattle) are talking with Howards agent about contracts. A bidding competition which is rumored to have Dallas considering sending a 1st(!) rounder to the Saints for Howard.

Now at his best, Howard is worth a 1st rounder, but with his problems staying healthy, I think the Cowboys would be overpaying with a 1st, even if its in the 20s and they have another pick.

TazFTW · 03-11-2005, 10:42 PM

Falcons sign G Matt Lehr to a 3 year deal.

Titans might bring back Eddie George.

JAG · 03-12-2005, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigercat

New rumors in the Darren Howard situation(there is a new one every few days):

Dallas and another team(rumored to be seattle) are talking with Howards agent about contracts. A bidding competition which is rumored to have Dallas considering sending a 1st(!) rounder to the Saints for Howard.

Now at his best, Howard is worth a 1st rounder, but with his problems staying healthy, I think the Cowboys would be overpaying with a 1st, even if its in the 20s and they have another pick.

I read today a source has Dallas trading a second round pick plus MLB Dat Nguyen for Howard. I think that's giving up a bit much for him, but it would be their best DL by far since their 90's Super Bowl days if it happens.

TazFTW · 03-12-2005, 02:18 PM

Vikings signs S Darren Sharper to a 4 year deal.

TazFTW · 03-12-2005, 03:22 PM

Pasquarelli is reporting that the Lions have agreed in principle a deal that would bring in Jeff Garcia.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-12-2005, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

Pasquarelli is reporting that the Lions have agreed in principle a deal that would bring in Jeff Garcia.

So the QB controversy in Detroit begins...

I think Garcia was the natural choice. He knows Mooch. He knows the system. I think the over/under on the number of games Harrington starts next year is 4.

BigJohn&TheLions · 03-12-2005, 04:38 PM

YAY!!! Now the Lions actually have someone who can get the receivers the damn ball. I hope Mooch has a very short leash on #3...

Swaggs · 03-12-2005, 04:46 PM

Looks like there may be a bit of mutual interest between the Eagles and Burress. Possibly for just a one-year deal, presumably for Burress to get some numbers and try for another payday next season. He would probably fit in pretty well. Despite what some people say, I don't think Burress is a disruptive-type personality. He seems like he is just sort of a loner and a little lethargic.

Pure speculation on my part here, but I wonder if Burress may have a few positive drug tests to his name and if that may be making teams wary of signing him. If he is one positive test away from getting suspended or something, even if it was a few years ago, that could scare teams off.

TLK · 03-12-2005, 05:07 PM

The Garcia signing is nice. It also sounds like Rick DeMulling will sign early next week. The Lions have played a smart off-season.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-12-2005, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLionKing

The Garcia signing is nice. It also sounds like Rick DeMulling will sign early next week. The Lions have played a smart off-season.

Where'd you hear the DeMulling bit?

03-11-2005, 01:05 AM	#369
Vinatieri for Prez College Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle	If Law didn't give NE a discount, then Pitt isn't getting one. He has said that staying in NE was his first choice. Last edited by Vinatieri for Prez : 03-11-2005 at 01:05 AM.

03-11-2005, 02:24 PM	#378
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Has Vinatieri resigned? Any news on him, if not? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

03-11-2005, 03:57 PM	#387
JasonC23 High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Huntley, IL, USA	Wait, so who will be the backup QB for the Bears, now that Fiedler's gone? Brad Johnson? Jeff Garcia? __________________ "I'm A god. I'm not THE God...I don't think." Bill Murray, Groundhog Day

03-11-2005, 04:24 PM	#389
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	They already have Jeff George __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

03-12-2005, 04:38 PM	#397
BigJohn&TheLions College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York	YAY!!! Now the Lions actually have someone who can get the receivers the damn ball. I hope Mooch has a very short leash on #3... __________________ In the immortal words of a great alcoholic, "Can't we all just get along?"

03-10-2005, 08:51 PM	#354
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	The Lions have taken over this thread. Much like they will take over the NFC North. Mwhahahaha.

03-10-2005, 09:39 PM	#360
Kozure High School JV Join Date: Apr 2004	I might have missed someone mentioning this but... Ty Law visited the steelers today. For those who dont know, Law is from Pittsburgh. Could be a good pickup for the Burg if he is willing to give them a hometown discount.

03-10-2005, 09:52 PM	#363
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	And i seriously doubt Law gives anyone a discount at this point.

03-10-2005, 09:57 PM	#364
Kozure High School JV Join Date: Apr 2004	Law's 31...and the Steelers will only take him if he is healthy. The team isn't known for taking chances on players.

03-11-2005, 12:28 AM	#368
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Law with Pittsburgh at an affordable price would be awesome. Well, I have no idea how good he is right now afetr injuries... but I still like him.

03-11-2005, 04:47 AM	#371
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	Chiefs Sign Sammy knight.. wee

03-11-2005, 05:36 AM	#372
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	Chiefs better find the best scheme with which to use Sammy. If you find the scheme that lets Sammy do his free roaming thing, then he will make lots of big plays. But the more specific responsibilities you put to his safety spot, the more his shortcommings will show.

03-11-2005, 08:24 AM	#373
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Rumors have the Saints and Raiders trading Charles Woodson for Darren Howard.

03-11-2005, 01:24 PM	#374
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	The Jets sign Jay Fiedler. The Eagles sign Mike McMahon to a 2 year deal.

03-11-2005, 01:59 PM	#375
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Patriots \| Dwight Agrees to One-Year Deal - from www.KFFL.com Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:40:30 -0800 USAToday.com reports the New England Patriots have agreed to a one-year deal with free agent WR Tim Dwight (Chargers). Financial terms were undisclosed.

03-11-2005, 02:39 PM	#382
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	The Jay Fiedler deal is for 5 years. Jay Glazer is reporting the San Diego Charger have told Doug Flutie that he will be released.

03-11-2005, 02:51 PM	#383
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	No deal yet, but KFAN reports the Vikings won't let Darren Sharper leave without a contract.

03-11-2005, 06:57 PM	#391
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	New rumors in the Darren Howard situation(there is a new one every few days): Dallas and another team(rumored to be seattle) are talking with Howards agent about contracts. A bidding competition which is rumored to have Dallas considering sending a 1st(!) rounder to the Saints for Howard. Now at his best, Howard is worth a 1st rounder, but with his problems staying healthy, I think the Cowboys would be overpaying with a 1st, even if its in the 20s and they have another pick.

03-11-2005, 10:42 PM	#392
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Falcons sign G Matt Lehr to a 3 year deal. Titans might bring back Eddie George.

03-12-2005, 02:18 PM	#394
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Vikings signs S Darren Sharper to a 4 year deal.

03-12-2005, 03:22 PM	#395
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Pasquarelli is reporting that the Lions have agreed in principle a deal that would bring in Jeff Garcia.

03-12-2005, 04:46 PM	#398
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Looks like there may be a bit of mutual interest between the Eagles and Burress. Possibly for just a one-year deal, presumably for Burress to get some numbers and try for another payday next season. He would probably fit in pretty well. Despite what some people say, I don't think Burress is a disruptive-type personality. He seems like he is just sort of a loner and a little lethargic. Pure speculation on my part here, but I wonder if Burress may have a few positive drug tests to his name and if that may be making teams wary of signing him. If he is one positive test away from getting suspended or something, even if it was a few years ago, that could scare teams off. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

03-12-2005, 05:07 PM	#399
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	The Garcia signing is nice. It also sounds like Rick DeMulling will sign early next week. The Lions have played a smart off-season.

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