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Old 08-05-2023, 11:28 AM   #351
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That is the irony in all this. his supporters claim he is being targeted when in reality he is getting special treatment literally no one else on the planet would receive.

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Old 08-05-2023, 02:46 PM   #352
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So the judge wants a reply/meeting by Monday, what do you think Trump's lawyers do? Yep delay, want until the 10th to answer and have oral arguments.
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Old 08-05-2023, 07:25 PM   #353
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So the judge wants a reply/meeting by Monday, what do you think Trump's lawyers do? Yep delay, want until the 10th to answer and have oral arguments.


DOJ acts quickly to get the judge to not allow the delay and she agrees. Trump has now moved on to attack potential witness Mike Pence, who finally showed some balls in saying more about what Trump wanted him to do on Jan 6. And a potential Georgia indictment this week too. Summer is getting HOT!


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Old 08-05-2023, 07:42 PM   #354
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Judge won't do shit. Maybe a lecture he will ignore. Different justice systems for different people.
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Old 08-05-2023, 09:47 PM   #355
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Judge won't do shit. Maybe a lecture he will ignore. Different justice systems for different people.

Exactly. Trump has done more than enough to justify locking him up. He will never be held accountable.
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Old 08-05-2023, 10:25 PM   #356
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Old 08-07-2023, 10:27 PM   #357
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Any attorneys here want to wade in on the Judge Cannon ruling today? I'm seeing analysis that's all over the place.
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Old 08-09-2023, 07:05 AM   #358
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Any attorneys here want to wade in on the Judge Cannon ruling today? I'm seeing analysis that's all over the place.

Some caveats:

1. I think Trump is a horrible human being and a cancer on this country

2. I am a defense lawyer

Both of which color my perspective, but #2 more than #1.

Grand Juries are powerful things. They allow the government to collect evidence. They can subpoena testimony under oath. In a system that prides itself on open access to the justice system, they are an exception that is allowed to operate almost entirely in secret.

And we have decided that that secrecy is worth it for a few reasons. First, it lets the government build cases and investigate without interference. Second, if it turns out that someone was being investigated and turns out not to have done anything wrong, then the secrecy was good to protect their reputation; ideally, no one ever even knows they were a target. Third, if the grand jury does indict you, then you will get an open and public trial with lots and lots of procedural protections before you are found guilty, so that cures any problems caused by the grand jury secrecy.

Because grand juries are such a powerful tool, we do not allow prosecutors to continue to use them in a case once they issue an indictment. The indictment starts the public part of the case, and any investigation, evidence gathering, etc. needs to happen subject to the normal statutory and constitutional disclosure rules. In general, you need to finish with the grand jury and then indict. You don't indict and then keep using it.

There are exceptions to that rule, and I am honestly not completely sure what they are. And those exceptions are what is at play here.

Here, it looks like the United States started the investigation in DC with a DC grand jury. Then realized that the proper venue was Florida, so it got a grand jury down there. But it looks like it might have kept one or both grand juries going post-indictment, and that is what Judge Cannon is asking about.

It may be that due to the complexity of the case and alleged ongoing attempts to destroy evidence by the defense, the continued use of the grand jury(ies) was legitimate and falls into a well-established exception to the general rule (indeed, it would shock me if DOJ was not being super careful about crossing Ts and dotting Is here).

But on the surface, it raises questions. So the judge is asking those questions. She hasn't ruled on anything yet. She is asking for more information about something that (IMO rightly) raises questions and suspicions.

So, all that said, I say good for her. We WANT judges to hold the government's feet to the fire. We don't want the government taking shortcuts that end up violating rights. And judges are our first line of defense to make sure they don't.
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Old 08-09-2023, 07:52 AM   #359
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Interesting, thanks for posting.

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1. I think Trump is a horrible human being and a cancer on this country

I'd say you'd get 98% or thereabouts support for that proposition. I would definitely be in favor of it.
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Old 08-09-2023, 09:37 AM   #360
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Some caveats:

1. I think Trump is a horrible human being and a cancer on this country

2. I am a defense lawyer

Both of which color my perspective, but #2 more than #1.

Grand Juries are powerful things. They allow the government to collect evidence. They can subpoena testimony under oath. In a system that prides itself on open access to the justice system, they are an exception that is allowed to operate almost entirely in secret.

And we have decided that that secrecy is worth it for a few reasons. First, it lets the government build cases and investigate without interference. Second, if it turns out that someone was being investigated and turns out not to have done anything wrong, then the secrecy was good to protect their reputation; ideally, no one ever even knows they were a target. Third, if the grand jury does indict you, then you will get an open and public trial with lots and lots of procedural protections before you are found guilty, so that cures any problems caused by the grand jury secrecy.

Because grand juries are such a powerful tool, we do not allow prosecutors to continue to use them in a case once they issue an indictment. The indictment starts the public part of the case, and any investigation, evidence gathering, etc. needs to happen subject to the normal statutory and constitutional disclosure rules. In general, you need to finish with the grand jury and then indict. You don't indict and then keep using it.

There are exceptions to that rule, and I am honestly not completely sure what they are. And those exceptions are what is at play here.

Here, it looks like the United States started the investigation in DC with a DC grand jury. Then realized that the proper venue was Florida, so it got a grand jury down there. But it looks like it might have kept one or both grand juries going post-indictment, and that is what Judge Cannon is asking about.

It may be that due to the complexity of the case and alleged ongoing attempts to destroy evidence by the defense, the continued use of the grand jury(ies) was legitimate and falls into a well-established exception to the general rule (indeed, it would shock me if DOJ was not being super careful about crossing Ts and dotting Is here).

But on the surface, it raises questions. So the judge is asking those questions. She hasn't ruled on anything yet. She is asking for more information about something that (IMO rightly) raises questions and suspicions.

So, all that said, I say good for her. We WANT judges to hold the government's feet to the fire. We don't want the government taking shortcuts that end up violating rights. And judges are our first line of defense to make sure they don't.


Thanks for the clarification. I was also confused. Right wing twitter of course has already called for his disbarment and prosecution over this. Have to keep the outrage machine fed.
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Old 08-09-2023, 12:25 PM   #361
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So the Special Counsel had a warrant to aceess Trump's Twitter account since Jan, with the stipulation that they could not tell Trump about it. Twitter resisted got fined and eventually gave in:


https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/stat...13590149263360
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Old 08-09-2023, 08:57 PM   #362
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..Trump wants a SCIF room built for him in Mar-a-Lago. I can't even.
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Old 08-09-2023, 09:07 PM   #363
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The game is to get the judge to approve more and more until the government feels like it has no choice but to drop the case. And with this judge it just might work.
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Old 08-09-2023, 11:13 PM   #364
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Except the counter move is to walk over to the 11th circuit and watch her get smacked down again so.
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Old 08-10-2023, 09:44 AM   #365
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So the Special Counsel had a warrant to aceess Trump's Twitter account since Jan, with the stipulation that they could not tell Trump about it. Twitter resisted got fined and eventually gave in:


https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/stat...13590149263360

CNN is reporting that they also tipped Trump off before turning the data over so he probably had time to delete some things.
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Old 08-12-2023, 10:19 PM   #366
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I agree with pursuing this, get it out in the open, get it in the books. Doubt it's going to impact Trump much politically (what's one more indictment) but it'd be good if some of his non-Teflon accomplices are caught in the dragnet and paid a price.

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Old 08-13-2023, 10:52 AM   #367
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... but it'd be good if some of his non-Teflon accomplices are caught in the dragnet and paid a price.

Really don't know how guilty they are but ... congratulations Misty & Cathy, you win the prize for being the low persons on the non-teflon totem pole that no one will care much about.

Wonder if they've cut a deal or stubbornly continue to believe they did the right thing.

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Latham, who also served as a fake elector from Georgia after the 2020 election, has come under scrutiny for her role in the Coffee County breach after surveillance video showed she allowed unauthorized outsiders to spend hours examining voting systems there.
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Old 08-14-2023, 10:45 AM   #368
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You'd think there would be consequences for going online and telling a person that is scheduled to testify against you to not testify, but here we are. Wlwere watching a former President make baseless accusations against judges and trying to influence people testifying, but not suffering consequences.
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Old 08-14-2023, 11:45 AM   #369
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According to a worker's comp attorney in GA it's a common strategy to say worker's comp covers all workplace injuries so there is o additional liability.
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Old 08-14-2023, 01:56 PM   #370
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According to a worker's comp attorney in GA it's a common strategy to say worker's comp covers all workplace injuries so there is o additional liability.
Wrong thread I believe, but that is absolutely the case. Employers can be super negligent, and Worker's Comp caps out what employee's can get. OSHA can nail them with a fine, but the employee just has to take what the WC table will allow.

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Old 08-14-2023, 03:36 PM   #371
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The indictments might come down in GA today-they are moving thru the last Grand Jury witnesses, and the Head Judge has said they will go past the usual closing time of 5pm if the DA signals she wants to. Tomorrow if not today then.
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Old 08-14-2023, 03:39 PM   #372
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Old 08-14-2023, 03:42 PM   #373
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good luck with that - those things are *expensive*

The good news is that he's an especially generous billionaire who is only intereseted in the truth.
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Old 08-14-2023, 03:44 PM   #374
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You'd think there would be consequences for going online and telling a person that is scheduled to testify against you to not testify, but here we are. Wlwere watching a former President make baseless accusations against judges and trying to influence people testifying, but not suffering consequences.

We're way past the point of wondering whether Trump is worse than Nixon and I'm now trying to determine if there's anyone in the modern era who has committed as many crimes as Trump with so little consequences. I can come up with names, but they're mostly dictators, which probably says something.
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Old 08-14-2023, 03:48 PM   #375
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The good news is that he's an especially generous billionaire who is only intereseted in the truth.


But I'm sure his followers would love to pay for it
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Old 08-14-2023, 07:11 PM   #376
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I think the Fulton indictment might come any minute.

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Old 08-14-2023, 07:12 PM   #377
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Old 08-14-2023, 07:44 PM   #378
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And in a pre-arranged interview winning the "Best Timing" award, Rachel Maddow is about to interview Hilary Clinton at 9 pm
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Old 08-14-2023, 08:04 PM   #379
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10 indictments. RICO likely the big one.

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Old 08-14-2023, 08:21 PM   #380
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It might be another three hours before we see the indictments. No indication of the number of defendants. We really don't know if Trump is a defendant on all ten charges.

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Old 08-14-2023, 08:26 PM   #381
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Ho Hum

Nothing will happen and Trump will rake in millions in small dollar donations and see a spike in the polls.

Like it or not, at some point, one we have likely passed, non maga people are going to start believing this is Biden trying to jail his opponent.
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Old 08-14-2023, 08:46 PM   #382
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Ho Hum

Nothing will happen and Trump will rake in millions in small dollar donations and see a spike in the polls.

Like it or not, at some point, one we have likely passed, non maga people are going to start believing this is Biden trying to jail his opponent.


Yes I see democrat free media ( Trump calls them main stream media) news anchors like Maddox and CNN doing victory laps and I have PTSD from 2016. I am really concerned we wake on the day after the election in November 2024 and Trump has won Arizona, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and he is president again. Then God help us all.
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Old 08-14-2023, 08:47 PM   #383
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Someone tweeted that Trump is now under indictment in every NL East city except Philly.
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Old 08-14-2023, 09:01 PM   #384
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Ho Hum

Nothing will happen and Trump will rake in millions in small dollar donations and see a spike in the polls.

Like it or not, at some point, one we have likely passed, non maga people are going to start believing this is Biden trying to jail his opponent.

He is getting preferential treatment but that DC indictment seems like trouble any way you look at it.
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Old 08-14-2023, 09:05 PM   #385
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I think Georgia requires a mugshot so we might actually get one.
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Old 08-14-2023, 09:12 PM   #386
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He is getting preferential treatment but that DC indictment seems like trouble any way you look at it.

The jury pool there will easily be the most problematic, but doubtful it goes to trial prior to the election.
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Old 08-14-2023, 09:34 PM   #387
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Happy indictment day! It's kinda like Groundhog day, but with less Groundhogs, and more Orange Man Indictments.
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Old 08-14-2023, 09:43 PM   #388
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that bit that was elipsis'd out? "Even worse than Herschel Walker"
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Old 08-14-2023, 10:09 PM   #389
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19 people indicted, Trump is facing 13 Felony Charges including RICO (hey, maybe they can seize Mar-a-Lago under RICO? Kidding!)



The Indictment starts with:

INTRODUCTION

Defendant Donald John Trump lost the United States presidential election held on November 3, 2020. One oft he states he lost was Georgia. Trump and the other Defendants charged in this Indictment refused to accept that Trump lost, and they knowingly and willfully joined a conspiracy to unlawfully change the outcome of the election in favor of Trump. That conspiracy contained a common plan and purpose to commit two or more acts of racketeering activity in Fulton County, Georgia, elsewhere in the State of Georgia, and in other states.
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Gonna be tough when he endorses Trump for the general.
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Old 08-14-2023, 10:27 PM   #391
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Ken White (Popehat) with the Chumbawumba reference:

He gets a New York charge, he gets a Florida charge
He gets a DC charge, he gets a Georgia charge
He enters the pleas that remind him of the good times
He enters the pleas that remind him of the better times


and for once, he has to say "Yes, it's RICO"

https://youtu.be/aiVkyD1yzJg
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Old 08-14-2023, 11:42 PM   #392
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Really don't know how guilty they are but ... congratulations Misty & Cathy, you win the prize for being the low persons on the non-teflon totem pole that no one will care much about.

Wonder if they've cut a deal or stubbornly continue to believe they did the right thing.

Misty and Cathy are listed. They were #17 and #19.

Is it in order of severity of charges? Sidney Powell is #16 and I'd thought she would be up there with Guiliani.

Oh well, I'm sure someone will translate it into layman terms tomorrow.
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Giuliani and Trump each have the most felony count charges (13)
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Ken White (Popehat) with the Chumbawumba reference:

He gets a New York charge, he gets a Florida charge
He gets a DC charge, he gets a Georgia charge
He enters the pleas that remind him of the good times
He enters the pleas that remind him of the better times


and for once, he has to say "Yes, it's RICO"

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Old 08-15-2023, 05:34 AM   #395
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This needs to be highlighted.

Rudy Giuliani, Who Pioneered Use of RICO, Indicted on RICO Charges

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Old 08-15-2023, 06:12 AM   #396
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Gonna be tough when he endorses Trump for the general.
Geoff Duncan won't. He isn't that guy. He said after the 2020 election that he was glad Trump lost. He also refused to vote for Hershel Walker. His whole mission is to clean out Trump completely from the GOP.
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This needs to be highlighted.

Rudy Giuliani, Who Pioneered Use of RICO, Indicted on RICO Charges

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Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.

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Old 08-15-2023, 07:10 AM   #398
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Why the Georgia case is different than any of the others is that he can't get a pardon in Georgia. Georgia pardons can only come 5 years after any sentence is served, and is decided by a board not the governor. Trump really needs to move this case to the Federal level, and it might be he will have more success doing that in this case than the NY case.
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Old 08-15-2023, 07:20 AM   #399
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Ken White (Popehat) with the Chumbawumba reference:

He gets a New York charge, he gets a Florida charge
He gets a DC charge, he gets a Georgia charge
He enters the pleas that remind him of the good times
He enters the pleas that remind him of the better times


and for once, he has to say "Yes, it's RICO"

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Old 08-15-2023, 07:24 AM   #400
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I get that it was not in his nature to do this, but if he had just conceded the election and not stolen a bunch of classified documents, he'd currently be living the life of luxury and adoration as an ex-president that he's spent his whole life chasing.
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