College Football Recruiting (2012 Class) Discussion - Page 8

dawgfan · 12-20-2011, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Just based on a few internet searches, University of Washington looks to be most often considered a tier below Michigan when it come to pre med universities. UofM came up as one of the tops in most pre med rankings I stumbled across and UofW was hardly mentioned. Not too surprising, really. It was a brief little internet search, so ymmv.

Michigan might be better in pre-med, but the UW has the better Medical School - you could make a pretty good argument they're the best period - and the vast majority (something close to 90%) of the Med School students admitted at the UW are UW undergrads.

But really, we're splitting hairs here. This wasn't exclusively about differences in academics between the UW and the others on his list - there reportedly are some reasons why his dad doesn't feel as strong of a connection to his alma mater as you'd expect, and Josh has internalized that. Under normal circumstances, he should've been a lock to the UW.

MrBug708 · 12-20-2011, 08:33 AM

UCLA took one kid from UW and landed another from Georgia. Not a fan of Legace, the UW kid though

dawgfan · 12-20-2011, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

UCLA took one kid from UW and landed another from Georgia. Not a fan of Legace, the UW kid though

Lagace for Turpin - I'm OK with that swap.

MrBug708 · 12-20-2011, 05:05 PM

I would have passed on both lol

It seems the UW board is melting down after the loss of "Coach Meat"

Eaglesfan27 · 12-20-2011, 07:00 PM

USC flipped 4 star JC DE Morgan Breslin from UCLA. Breslin led the CCCAA with 29.5 sacks over the last 2 years. He'll have 3 years to play 2.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 12-20-2011, 08:44 PM

Bob Stoops discusses the rash of transfers at OU.

OU starting to turn over its roster

MrBug708 · 12-20-2011, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

USC flipped 4 star JC DE Morgan Breslin from UCLA. Breslin led the CCCAA with 29.5 sacks over the last 2 years. He'll have 3 years to play 2.

We could use the depth, but not as bad as you guys and he gets one of the coveted USC spots. Once Perry declared though, a starting spot opened

Eaglesfan27 · 12-21-2011, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

We could use the depth, but not as bad as you guys and he gets one of the coveted USC spots. Once Perry declared though, a starting spot opened

He's an EE. He doesn't count towards the limit of 15.

Logan · 12-21-2011, 07:45 AM

Looking more likely that Elijah Shumate is heading to ND.

Logan · 12-21-2011, 09:56 AM

Not exactly a recruit, but former Maryland OT RJ Dill will be going for his graduate degree at Rutgers. Fills a major need.

Swaggs · 12-21-2011, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Not exactly a recruit, but former Maryland OT RJ Dill will be going for his graduate degree at Rutgers. Fills a major need.

That's a great pick up.

DeToxRox · 12-21-2011, 12:31 PM

Missouri 3* WR Jehu Chesson picked Michigan today. Kid is super raw but his potential is off the charts. Great size/speed combination.

Honolulu_Blue · 12-21-2011, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Missouri 3* WR Jehu Chesson picked Michigan today. Kid is super raw but his potential is off the charts. Great size/speed combination.

Jehuuuuuuuu

Noop · 12-21-2011, 12:50 PM

Question do we have any Alabama fans on this site?

DeToxRox · 12-21-2011, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

Question do we have any Alabama fans on this site?

Matthean.

Matthean · 12-21-2011, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Matthean.

There's more than me, but I'm the one to talk a bunch during the games. I get it from my Dad since he was born and raised there so I get the endless SEC talk. I split time between Michigan and 'Bama, but he tends to give me most of my 'Bama news since that's all he cares about. I tend to read less about 'Bama just because right now I know the program is in good shape as where Michigan I'm always looking for good news.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-21-2011, 03:12 PM

USC got 4 star JC S Gerald Bowman today. Kid has very good range and could push for PT right away if McDonald goes pro. Since, he is an EE he doesn't count against the limit of 15 either.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 12-22-2011, 10:07 AM

A coach on the staff has leaked that Dorial Green-Beckham's final two options are Arkansas and Mizzou. Shouldn't be terribly surprising for those that have followed the recruitment. The OU transfers have scared him from that program and the other schools are too far away from home.

Tigercat · 12-22-2011, 11:34 AM

Top QB in the nation, Gunner Kiel, is supposed to announce tomorrow or at latest by Saturday morning. If LSU wasn't the farthest school away, I think he would easily be a Tiger. But, as it is, no one team between ND, Vandy, and LSU is a good bet.

In a case like this, with a good kid from a well off family, I could easily see him not worrying about distance. But who knows...

Noop · 12-22-2011, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

There's more than me, but I'm the one to talk a bunch during the games. I get it from my Dad since he was born and raised there so I get the endless SEC talk. I split time between Michigan and 'Bama, but he tends to give me most of my 'Bama news since that's all he cares about. I tend to read less about 'Bama just because right now I know the program is in good shape as where Michigan I'm always looking for good news.

I made my post to inform you guys that you were getting Dixon.

Congrats he is a great kid.

Julio Riddols · 12-22-2011, 03:37 PM

Fuck Gunner Kiel.

Logan · 12-23-2011, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Looking more likely that Elijah Shumate is heading to ND.

Updating this, a Rutgers Rivals guy citing someone close to the Bosco program is saying that Shumate and Yuri Wright are both silent commits to ND. Sucks to not get Shumate even though we were always trailing. Wright has the lofty national ranking but guys who follow NJ football closely think he's inflated based on potential, so not much of a loss.

General Mike · 12-23-2011, 06:40 PM

Get those hats ready, Logan and Jon.

MrBug708 · 12-26-2011, 03:37 PM

Mora strikes again with a DB, Ismael Adams, a four star CB from SoCal

Tigercat · 12-27-2011, 05:23 PM

Kiel to LSU, great to finally have a big time QB on board again.

Matthean · 12-27-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

I made my post to inform you guys that you were getting Dixon.

Congrats he is a great kid.

With the mass turnover 'Bama has in the secondary he'll get a chance to play.

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Originally Posted by Tigercat

Kiel to LSU, great to finally have a big time QB on board again.

I'm guessing 'Bama got removed from the race due to limited amount of scholarships left to hand out. LSU wasn't even on his list and then they are there in the end.

k0ruptr · 12-27-2011, 11:03 PM

QB Taylor Graham from tOSU transfering to Hawaii. Buckeye fans, is he anything to be excited about?

Tigercat · 12-27-2011, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

I'm guessing 'Bama got removed from the race due to limited amount of scholarships left to hand out. LSU wasn't even on his list and then they are there in the end.

Bama and OU were early favorites but didn't stay that hot on him throughout the process. LSU did, and Kragthorpe really impressed him as a QB coach. LSU and Bama were both after the same southern QBs, but I think Kiel was on top of both their boards.

General Mike · 12-28-2011, 08:31 PM

Looks like Tom Savage will be a Scarlet Knight next year.

Jon · 12-28-2011, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by General Mike

Looks like Tom Savage will be a Scarlet Knight next year.

Was the waiver approved?

General Mike · 12-28-2011, 09:00 PM

from Rutgers.rivals.com premium message board:

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The Rutgers Compliance office is working out the paperwork end of things to request the NCAA waiver that would allow him to play next year.

JPhillips · 12-28-2011, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

QB Taylor Graham from tOSU transfering to Hawaii. Buckeye fans, is he anything to be excited about?

He's a big stationary passer, not at all a fit for Meyer's offense.

k0ruptr · 12-28-2011, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

He's a big stationary passer, not at all a fit for Meyer's offense.

I'm assuming he might work kinda well in a Norm Chow offense then.
That must be why he is transferring. Seems interesting

MrBug708 · 12-29-2011, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

I'm assuming he might work kinda well in a Norm Chow offense then.
That must be why he is transferring. Seems interesting

UCLA was recruiting him out of HS so there is that connection

MrBug708 · 12-29-2011, 05:47 PM

Tee Shepard could be flipping to USC, from Notre Dame

Eaglesfan27 · 12-29-2011, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Tee Shepard could be flipping to USC, from Notre Dame

Welcome to last week. ;-)

dawgfan · 12-31-2011, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

It seems the UW board is melting down after the loss of "Coach Meat"

Meet was our best recruiter in SoCal, and some guys we thought we had a good chance at, or had in the bag, are now up in the air with him gone.

That said, not impressed with his coaching skills.

MrBug708 · 12-31-2011, 10:02 AM

Joshua Shaw is transferring to UCLA, from Florida

If Tee Shepard goes to USC, Deonte Greenberry could flip to UCLA

BishopMVP · 12-31-2011, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Joshua Shaw is transferring to UCLA, from Florida

If Tee Shepard goes to USC, Deonte Greenberry could flip to UCLA

I don't have any insider info, but there's a school of thought that they're just messing with the recruiters so they get more attention at the UA game. Guess we'll find out Thursday, although Kelly and staff have some experience re-flipping elite guys last year (Aaron Lynch, Stephon Tuitt).

Overall, ND's momentum really stalled the past few months, but hopefully the recent commitments of 4* OT Ronnie Stanley, 4* RB Keivarae Russell, and some good news from the UA game pick it back up.

Matthean · 12-31-2011, 12:49 PM

Twitter

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Josh Garnett shows up at #UAGame registration wearing a Michigan shirt. Hmm...

MrBug708 · 12-31-2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

I don't have any insider info, but there's a school of thought that they're just messing with the recruiters so they get more attention at the UA game. Guess we'll find out Thursday, although Kelly and staff have some experience re-flipping elite guys last year (Aaron Lynch, Stephon Tuitt).

Overall, ND's momentum really stalled the past few months, but hopefully the recent commitments of 4* OT Ronnie Stanley, 4* RB Keivarae Russell, and some good news from the UA game pick it back up.

No idea really, but I would really like Greenberry. If neither pick the local schools, it won't be the end of the world and I do think that the odds of them flipping are less than what they are of sticking with Notre Dame.

Staley is a great pickup. The Offensive line talent on the west coast has been unreal this year

Ksyrup · 01-03-2012, 03:46 PM

Wow. There is no way I could be a college coach and deal with this kind of crap without losing it.

Rivals High - What's in a number? Apparently quite a bit

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Kevon Seymour of Pasadena (Calif.) Muir was annoyed he had No. 41 instead of his preferred No. 1. And Seymour willingly admits he'll look at the rosters of potential colleges to see if No. 1 is available. If it's not, the school's chances of landing him diminish.

One was visibly upset.

Mike Davis of Stone Mountain (Ga.) Stephenson made such a fuss about his assigned No. 16 that he was given a new number (14), making him the only player without his name on his jersey. But that didn't help - neither was the No. 28 he wanted.

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As the No. 1 cornerback in the country, Tracy Howard of Miramar (Fla.) High has his choice of colleges. But he doesn't expect to have his choice of numbers when he gets there.

"That's ignorant," he said. "Why would you think you could just get any number you wanted? I don't think anyone is going to outwork me, but at the same time, if guys have been in the system and are doing the work, they get the number. You get a number, work hard and then you'll get what you want."

Howard, it should be noted, got a coveted No. 3 here. And while he says he would be happy to work for that number again in college, there's a limit to the starting point.

"Let's be serious, I'm not going anywhere to be No. 45," he said.

Logan · 01-03-2012, 03:49 PM

It's almost like these kids are coddled their entire lives.

Eaglesfan27 · 01-03-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Wow. There is no way I could be a college coach and deal with this kind of crap without losing it.

Rivals High - What's in a number? Apparently quite a bit

This is a main reason that I doubt Seymour ends up as a Trojan despite being a silent to them earlier in the year. His "me first" attitude doesn't jive with the team's new chemistry. Howard on the other hand...

Ksyrup · 01-03-2012, 03:52 PM

At least you have #1 open though. Priorities, priorities!

Crapshoot · 01-03-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Wow. There is no way I could be a college coach and deal with this kind of crap without losing it.

Rivals High - What's in a number? Apparently quite a bit

Wait, why? The kids are going to commit to being at a school, why on earth shouldn't something meaningful to them be a factor? Unlike the coaches, they can't bail for a payday at the next school.

Ksyrup · 01-03-2012, 03:59 PM

A factor? Crossing schools off your list because a number is taken? That's a little beyond a factor.

I'm sure having extra cash to spend, a hooker, and a cool car are important to recruits, too, but they ought to have someone responsible enough in their lives to explain what matters most. What bothers me about this is not necessarily that he cares so much about the number - kids will be kids - but that he's clueless enough to say it out loud to a reporter.

Logan · 01-03-2012, 04:00 PM

Yeah it's really no different than being legitimately swayed by the 47 different Maryland UA uniform combinations. Also stupid.

Matthean · 01-03-2012, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Wait, why? The kids are going to commit to being at a school, why on earth shouldn't something meaningful to them be a factor? Unlike the coaches, they can't bail for a payday at the next school.

These kids are talking about numbers for an all-star game. Yes, they will want the right numbers for when they go to college, but this isn't it. This is merely a one time ordeal. College's have multiple players with the same numbers.

The #34 for the Chicago Bears isn't famous because the number 34 made it so. It's famous because Payton made it famous.

dawgfan · 01-03-2012, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

The #34 for the Chicago Bears isn't famous because the number 34 made it so. It's famous because Peyton made it famous.

"Peyton"?

12-20-2011, 07:00 PM	#355
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12-21-2011, 03:12 PM	#367
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	USC got 4 star JC S Gerald Bowman today. Kid has very good range and could push for PT right away if McDonald goes pro. Since, he is an EE he doesn't count against the limit of 15 either. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

12-22-2011, 03:37 PM	#371
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	Fuck Gunner Kiel. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

12-27-2011, 11:03 PM	#377
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	QB Taylor Graham from tOSU transfering to Hawaii. Buckeye fans, is he anything to be excited about? __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks Last edited by k0ruptr : 12-27-2011 at 11:03 PM.

12-20-2011, 08:33 AM	#352
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	UCLA took one kid from UW and landed another from Georgia. Not a fan of Legace, the UW kid though

12-20-2011, 05:05 PM	#354
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I would have passed on both lol It seems the UW board is melting down after the loss of "Coach Meat"

12-20-2011, 08:44 PM	#356
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Bob Stoops discusses the rash of transfers at OU. OU starting to turn over its roster

12-21-2011, 07:45 AM	#359
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Looking more likely that Elijah Shumate is heading to ND.

12-21-2011, 09:56 AM	#360
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Not exactly a recruit, but former Maryland OT RJ Dill will be going for his graduate degree at Rutgers. Fills a major need.

12-21-2011, 12:31 PM	#362
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Missouri 3* WR Jehu Chesson picked Michigan today. Kid is super raw but his potential is off the charts. Great size/speed combination.

12-22-2011, 10:07 AM	#368
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	A coach on the staff has leaked that Dorial Green-Beckham's final two options are Arkansas and Mizzou. Shouldn't be terribly surprising for those that have followed the recruitment. The OU transfers have scared him from that program and the other schools are too far away from home.

12-22-2011, 11:34 AM	#369
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	Top QB in the nation, Gunner Kiel, is supposed to announce tomorrow or at latest by Saturday morning. If LSU wasn't the farthest school away, I think he would easily be a Tiger. But, as it is, no one team between ND, Vandy, and LSU is a good bet. In a case like this, with a good kid from a well off family, I could easily see him not worrying about distance. But who knows...

12-23-2011, 06:40 PM	#373
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	Get those hats ready, Logan and Jon.

12-26-2011, 03:37 PM	#374
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Mora strikes again with a DB, Ismael Adams, a four star CB from SoCal

12-27-2011, 05:23 PM	#375
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	Kiel to LSU, great to finally have a big time QB on board again.

12-28-2011, 08:31 PM	#379
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	Looks like Tom Savage will be a Scarlet Knight next year.

12-29-2011, 05:47 PM	#385
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Tee Shepard could be flipping to USC, from Notre Dame

12-31-2011, 10:02 AM	#388
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Joshua Shaw is transferring to UCLA, from Florida If Tee Shepard goes to USC, Deonte Greenberry could flip to UCLA

01-03-2012, 03:49 PM	#393
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	It's almost like these kids are coddled their entire lives.

01-03-2012, 03:52 PM	#395
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	At least you have #1 open though. Priorities, priorities! __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

01-03-2012, 03:59 PM	#397
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	A factor? Crossing schools off your list because a number is taken? That's a little beyond a factor. I'm sure having extra cash to spend, a hooker, and a cool car are important to recruits, too, but they ought to have someone responsible enough in their lives to explain what matters most. What bothers me about this is not necessarily that he cares so much about the number - kids will be kids - but that he's clueless enough to say it out loud to a reporter. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete." Last edited by Ksyrup : 01-03-2012 at 03:59 PM.

01-03-2012, 04:00 PM	#398
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Yeah it's really no different than being legitimately swayed by the 47 different Maryland UA uniform combinations. Also stupid.

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