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[korme]

Dell Curry doesn't appear in '86. These are random things I've noticed.

And this is the same league I started before you changed the way the databases are used, so I had NBA using the historical DB and ABA creating fictional players (which I deleted). The ABA is obviously no longer running anyways.

[yeah826]

Hey HR could you have recommend depth chart work out like it did in the college game where you could have players set to multiple legal positions. Because at the moment it mostly set starters as only one legal position.

Also I think players in the from the 40's to late 60's are way to efficient thats why the rebounding numbers are low for them.

Actually I think players in general are just way more efficient fictionally which brings down rebounding numbers.

[korme]

All-League Defense totals arent appearing on the player achievement list.

 PLAYER DETAILS

 #52 PF Charles Barkley - Jazz
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 Height:       6-6
 Weight:       253
 DOB:          2/20/1963 (24)
 College:      Auburn
 Exp:          2
 
 Attributes:
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 Type       INS JPS FTS 3PS HND PAS ORB DRB PSD PRD STL BLK QKN STR JMP STA
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 Current:    70  34  68  48  44  43  92  87  67  34  68  54  50  97  97  91
 Potential:   A   D   B   C   C   C   A   A   B   C   B   C                

 Health:      Good                                           
 Status:      Active Roster                                  
 Salary:      $270,462                                       
 Length:      2                                              
 
 Stat Averages:
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 Season  LGE TEAM   G  GS  MIN  PTS  ORE  REB  AST   TO   A/T  STL  BLK   PF
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   1986  NBA  UTA  82  78 33.8 21.9  3.2  9.8  2.3  2.7  0.84  1.1  0.7  4.0
   1985  NBA  UTA  82  18 28.6 14.8  2.3  7.9  2.1  2.4  0.89  1.3  1.0  3.9
   1984  NBA  UTA  64  64 31.8 13.2  2.6  8.5  2.1  2.1  1.02  1.0  0.6  3.8
 Career           228 160 31.4 16.9  2.7  8.8  2.2  2.4  1.02  1.2  0.8  3.9

 Shooting Averages:
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 Season  FGM  FGA   FG%  FTM  FTA   FT% InsM InsA   In%  JsM  JsA   Js%  3PM  3PA   3P%
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   1986  7.9 13.5  .586  5.6  7.8  .728  6.6  9.1  .725  0.8  2.6  .315  0.5  1.8  .276
   1985  5.1  9.3  .548  4.3  5.7  .756  3.9  5.5  .701  0.8  2.2  .346  0.4  1.5  .279
   1984  4.6  8.0  .580  3.8  5.1  .739  3.8  5.7  .658  0.8  1.8  .424  0.1  0.4  .214
 Career  6.0 10.4  .573  4.6  6.3  .740  4.8  6.9  .703  0.8  2.3  .351  0.4  1.3  .271
 
 Stat Totals:
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 Season  LGE TEAM   G  GS   MIN   PTS  OREB   REB   AST    TO   STL   BLK    PF  +/-
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   1986  NBA  UTA  82  78  2773  1797   263   807   188   225    92    56   326  641
   1985  NBA  UTA  82  18  2346  1217   190   644   172   193   109    83   319  774
   1984  NBA  UTA  64  64  2036   843   166   547   137   134    67    40   241  345
 Career           228 160  7155  3857   619  1998   497   552   268   179   886 1760

 Shooting Totals
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 Season   FGM   FGA   FTM   FTA   3PM   3PA
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   1986   647  1104   463   636    40   145
   1985   416   759   351   464    34   122
   1984   297   512   243   329     6    28
 Career  1360  2375  1057  1429    80   295
 
 Efficiency:
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 Season  LGE TEAM   G   TS%  PPS  AST   TO  USG  ORR  DRR   RR  PER     VA   EWA   +/-  OEFF  DEFF
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   1986  NBA  UTA  82  .649 1.63 10.5 12.5 23.8 11.5 24.0 17.7 25.6  581.9  19.4   7.8 112.1 100.5
   1985  NBA  UTA  82  .631 1.60 13.0 14.5 19.7  9.9 22.1 16.2 22.8  396.1  13.2   9.4 112.5  97.0
   1984  NBA  UTA  64  .642 1.65 14.8 14.4 15.9 10.2 22.4 16.4 19.4  239.8   8.0   5.4 109.3 100.9
 Career           228  .642 1.62 12.3 13.6 20.2 10.6 22.9 16.8 22.9 1217.8  40.6   7.7 111.4  99.4
 
 Playoff Averages:
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 Season  LGE TEAM   G  GS  MIN  PTS  ORE  REB  AST   TO   A/T  STL  BLK   PF
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   1985  NBA  UTA  16   0 26.4 13.5  2.3  7.4  2.2  2.3  0.95  1.1  0.6  4.4
   1984  NBA  UTA  10  10 28.8 13.3  2.1  7.2  1.5  3.2  0.47  0.8  0.1  3.9
 Career            26  10 27.3 13.4  2.2  7.3  1.9  2.7  0.47  1.0  0.4  4.2

 Playoff Shooting Averages:
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 Season  FGM  FGA   FG%  FTM  FTA   FT% InsM InsA   In%  JsM  JsA   Js%  3PM  3PA   3P%
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   1985  4.7  8.9  .528  3.7  5.7  .648  3.7  5.4  .686  0.6  2.3  .250  0.4  1.3  .350
   1984  4.9  8.4  .583  3.4  4.8  .708  3.8  6.1  .623  1.0  1.8  .556  0.1  0.5  .200
 Career  4.8  8.7  .549  3.6  5.3  .669  3.7  5.7  .660  0.7  2.1  .352  0.3  1.0  .320
 
 Playoff Totals:
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 Season  LGE TEAM   G  GS   MIN   PTS  OREB   REB   AST    TO   STL   BLK    PF  +/-
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   1985  NBA  UTA  16   0   422   216    36   119    35    37    18    10    71   10
   1984  NBA  UTA  10  10   288   133    21    72    15    32     8     1    39  -54
 Career            26  10   710   349    57   191    50    69    26    11   110  -44

 Playoff Shooting Totals
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 Season   FGM   FGA   FTM   FTA   3PM   3PA
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   1985    75   142    59    91     7    20
   1984    49    84    34    48     1     5
 Career   124   226    93   139     8    25
 
 Playoff Efficiency:
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 Season  LGE TEAM   G   TS%  PPS  AST   TO  USG  ORR  DRR   RR  PER     VA   EWA   +/-  OEFF  DEFF
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   1985  NBA  UTA  16  .593 1.52 13.8 14.6 21.1 10.0 21.3 15.9 16.9   33.8   1.1   0.6 101.5 100.9
   1984  NBA  UTA  10  .629 1.58  9.9 21.1 18.7  8.9 20.8 14.9 13.2    7.2   0.2  -5.4 102.8 110.7
 Career            26  .606 1.54 12.3 17.0 20.1  9.6 21.1 15.5 15.4   41.0   1.4  -1.7 102.0 104.9
 
 Career Highs:
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 Type      Pts OReb  Reb  Ast  Stl  Blk   TO  FGM  FGA  FTM  FTA  3PM  3PA
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 Season     56    8   18    7    5    3    7   19   30   16   20    3    7
 Playoff    32    6   16    5    3    2    7   12   19    7   12    1    3
 Career     56    9   18    8    5    4    8   19   30   16   20    3    7
 
 Awards & Acheivements:
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 Season   Award
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 Total    Player of the Game: 32
 Total    Player of the Week: 1
 Total    All-Star Appearances: 1
 Total    All-League First Team : 1
 Total    Sixth Man of the Year : 1
 1986     NBA All-Defensive Second Team
 1986     NBA All-League First Team
 1986     NBA All-Star
 1985     NBA All-Defensive Second Team
 1985     NBA Sixth Man of the Year
 1985     NBA Slam-Dunk Contest Champion
 1985     NBA Rookie Game Participant
 1984     NBA All-Rookie First Team
 1984     NBA Rookie Game Participant

[korme]

I realize I might be getting nitpicky with the coach of the year stuff, but a HC won coach of the year and his team went 33-49 and missed the playoffs. My understanding is that he probably had a 20-win team and improved them substantially, but it's hard to imagine IRL a coach winning with that record, period.

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by korme

I realize I might be getting nitpicky with the coach of the year stuff, but a HC won coach of the year and his team went 33-49 and missed the playoffs. My understanding is that he probably had a 20-win team and improved them substantially, but it's hard to imagine IRL a coach winning with that record, period.

No argument there.

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by yeah826

Hey HR could you have recommend depth chart work out like it did in the college game where you could have players set to multiple legal positions. Because at the moment it mostly set starters as only one legal position.

Yes but I have to go back and try and make a few sections of code work better. Its on the list its just complicated.

Originally Posted by yeah826

Also I think players in the from the 40's to late 60's are way to efficient thats why the rebounding numbers are low for them. Actually I think players in general are just way more efficient fictionally which brings down rebounding numbers.

It will likely be a combination of things that will get tweaked.

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by korme

Dell Curry doesn't appear in '86. These are random things I've noticed.

And this is the same league I started before you changed the way the databases are used, so I had NBA using the historical DB and ABA creating fictional players (which I deleted). The ABA is obviously no longer running anyways.

My theory here is that the DB got changed when I had you reinstall and it shifted the IDs when I deleted the extra Billy Ray Bates. So it checks to see if an ID has been used and finds that it has because the missing players got shifted to players who already entered the league.

[korme]

Is there a reason you took out the mentors thing from the coach profiles? Or just an omission?

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by korme

I realize I might be getting nitpicky with the coach of the year stuff, but a HC won coach of the year and his team went 33-49 and missed the playoffs. My understanding is that he probably had a 20-win team and improved them substantially, but it's hard to imagine IRL a coach winning with that record, period.

Yeah I can echo this. In my one league, I had a coach of the year of an expansion team that only won about 22 games win it.

[korme]

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

My theory here is that the DB got changed when I had you reinstall and it shifted the IDs when I deleted the extra Billy Ray Bates. So it checks to see if an ID has been used and finds that it has because the missing players got shifted to players who already entered the league.

Yeah I'm catching someone every season now - David Robinson not showing up in '87, or is that because he doesn't play a game until '89?

[yeah826]

He appear in the 1989 draft class

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by yeah826

He appear in the 1989 draft class

It will be possible to specify in the future which draft class he should appear in but I would need to decide on a way to make him sit out.

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by korme

Is there a reason you took out the mentors thing from the coach profiles? Or just an omission?

Just not added at this point. Would be in line for a patch.

[Bigsmooth]

Originally Posted by nilodor

In case anyone is curious how to do this:

1. Go into My Documents/GDS/FBB3/Historical Leagues/North America/Teams
2. Go into Memphis & Oklahoma City.csv
3. Copy down the entries for the team prior to moving
3a. If you created a backup of the team.csv file, don't store it in the /Teams directory or else you'll get an expansion franchise in that season.

Awesome. Thank you.

[Young Drachma]

Not sure if it's just my import or not, but importing draft file and I get several stray draftees the computer presumably adds to the draft pool. Not sure why. I can tell they're strays because 1) it's an all-women's league so the names stick out 2) they have #s and none of the imports do and 3) it's a D3 league, so their schools stick out since they're all D1.

Again, not sure if it's something having to do with my import file or if it's the game just doing that on its own, but wanted to bring it up anyway.

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

Must be because they have been active in two leagues. Anyone else who came from the other league would have that issue too I bet.

Actually the code there looks good and my test didn't duplicate the issue. Could I look at your save?

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by Young Drachma

Not sure if it's just my import or not, but importing draft file and I get several stray draftees the computer presumably adds to the draft pool. Not sure why. I can tell they're strays because 1) it's an all-women's league so the names stick out 2) they have #s and none of the imports do and 3) it's a D3 league, so their schools stick out since they're all D1.

Again, not sure if it's something having to do with my import file or if it's the game just doing that on its own, but wanted to bring it up anyway.

I can make an option that disables all fill in players.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

I can definitely see how trading for draft picks might be easier with finances off. Ultimately I'll probably add some settings that allow you to tweak how the trade AI values certain things. I also encourage anyone who sees a trade that shouldn't go through to send me the save and trade details so I can take a look at it.

It was mostly the old trick of trading a future 1st round pick for a bad team's. Some of the bad teams do seem to properly value their future picks, but then another whose roster didn't look any better imo would have a much lower threshold. Certainly not an issue worth fixing at this point.

Couple things - Greg Oden showed up a year late, but I'm guessing that's because he didn't play as a rookie? Is there a hidden injury rating, and is it random for each player each time they're created? Maybe it was just really bad luck, but Bill Russell would seem to get 2 20+ day injuries per season. And finally, in a couple years one game didn't get played on the last day of the regular season (and it was where teams were within .5 game, so it mattered at least for draft pick coin flip purposes). Sorry I don't have a current save there.

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Greg Oden showed up a year late, but I'm guessing that's because he didn't play as a rookie?

Yes. I have code to make him show up in the correct year but need to come up with a way to make him sit that first year.

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Is there a hidden injury rating, and is it random for each player each time they're created? Maybe it was just really bad luck, but Bill Russell would seem to get 2 20+ day injuries per season.

Yes.

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

And finally, in a couple years one game didn't get played on the last day of the regular season (and it was where teams were within .5 game, so it mattered at least for draft pick coin flip purposes). Sorry I don't have a current save there.

Have to watch for this. If anyone sees it please send me the save.

[korme]

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

Actually the code there looks good and my test didn't duplicate the issue. Could I look at your save?

Sure. Do you just need the league.dat?

[HeavyReign]

Yeah. Just league.dat.

[korme]

When starting a new game and picking Historical Database League - is "USBL" the league that is currently in existence or is it the defunct one?

[whomario]

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

Yes. I have code to make him show up in the correct year but need to come up with a way to make him sit that first year.

Why would you have to ? I mean, do you strive to recreate every torn acl in the 10th game of the season as well ? Oden (and Blake, too ?) were drafted when they had no injury and i think everything after that should be fair game. Make Oden´s injury proneness (is there a rating like this, can´t check right now) sky high, but other than that i don´t see why this case should be any different than any other long term injury.

Go easy on yourself here, no one´ll blame you

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by korme

When starting a new game and picking Historical Database League - is "USBL" the league that is currently in existence or is it the defunct one?

I can see how that would be harder to figure out if you changed the names. USBL is the longer league. I'll see if I can't have the game display those based on the names found in the csv files.

[korme]

If you were to create a historical csv's for european leagues, how would one go about doing that for relegation/promotion style setups?

[HeavyReign]

******************************************************************************************************************
Version 3.0.6: http://www.fbbgames.com/FBPB3Update306.exe
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Fixes:
*Players imported from FBCB should enter the draft pool one year younger than before to account for the fact that FBCB ages them prior to exporting the draft file.
*Scroll bar on training screen was not showing the last player in the list.
*Training boxes should refresh immediately when using recommend.
*Highlighted player should match ratings at bottom when scrolled down on training screen.
*Fixed error 9 on human coaches screen when all teams have been set to human controlled.
*Power poll should give more teams a rating before games have been played.
*All-Defensive teams should be included in the totals section of player achievements
*Schedule is properly initialized when starting a new game when a game is already open.
*Fictional players will not be created with no name if you use a country not in the country database as the host country for your league.
*Export current league to league file option should properly export the division settings.
*Fixed a bug where previous players in the rookie game would get an achievement for playing in the current rookie game if it was cancelled.

Changes:
*Added Rings stat to archive all players report
*Emails about contract extensions now use the view offer button which will take you straight to the negotiations section.
*Added ratings squares to html files listing attributes or potentials.
*Adjusted coach of the year calculations to value overall team record more.
*Expansion teams will be given no better than the #4 overall pick when the lottery is not used.

[korme]

For whomario's thing, you could also just have the option to have someone get generated when they were drafted IRL (Bird '78, Admiral '87, Griffin '09) or when they first played (Bird '79, Admiral '89, Griffin '10)

[HeavyReign]

That is probably the simplest solution. The other thing will be finding the players. Peja is another one.

[korme]

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

That is probably the simplest solution. The other thing will be finding the players. Peja is another one.

Ahh yes, a bunch of euro guys. Arvydas is a big difference.

[korme]

Originally Posted by korme

If you were to create a historical csv's for european leagues, how would one go about doing that for relegation/promotion style setups?

To elaborate, specifically in a team's CSV you have a column to set the league they are in - it's how the Pacers move from the ABA to the NBA, for one example.

How would I set that up if teams are supposed to organically go up and down the tiers?

[HeavyReign]

Hmmm...that might be tough. How about we set the csvs up like I do now and I'll work out the particulars on the back end. My thought is it would introduce any new teams to the correct tier but wouldn't force any moves between the tiers as long as each active team is present in one of the tiers.

[Marmel]

Thanks for another patch HR! Nice of you to add the rings category to the archive.

Also, I just noticed last night that you added a tracker for longest ever winning streaks into the pro game. Hope that makes it into the college game. I love little statistical add-ons like these.

[korme]

heavy, I messed around with adding a historical league/teams for a game in Asia. It looks like everything is set up correctly in the csv's, but the teams don't load and the game crashes.

Could I send you some csvs and see what I'm doing wrong?

[HeavyReign]

Of course

[korme]

When can League Rules be edited?

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by korme

When can League Rules be edited?

Off-season.

[korme]

That's what I thought, but everything was grayed out when I tried to change some things.

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by korme

That's what I thought, but everything was grayed out when I tried to change some things.

Right after you hit end season.

[korme]

I think what was happening is that I was looking to do it under 'Review League Rules' and not the League Editor.

And fast-simming takes you a step past Offseason.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by korme

I think what was happening is that I was looking to do it under 'Review League Rules' and not the League Editor.

And fast-simming takes you a step past Offseason.

Yeah, on years I want to make edits, I stop fast-simming so I can get that period.

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by Young Drachma

Yeah, on years I want to make edits, I stop fast-simming so I can get that period.

I'll make it stop 1 step earlier

[korme]

Could we get Double Doubles/TripDoubles on the player card, maybe fitting it on the career highs screen?

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by korme

Could we get Double Doubles/TripDoubles on the player card, maybe fitting it on the career highs screen?

I was thinking of adding one more section of stats that would include those.

[murrayyyyy]

Just a question since I don't have the game in front of me. Where can I find the stats for every player while only in uniform for us? I was looking for the all-team leading scorer for the Hawks in my history league last night and couldn't find it.

[korme]

Team Records, right under Team Staff and Team History

[nZane]

Having an odd salary display issue, using the latest patch.

On the Hot Seat, my total salary is displayed as $40,629,031 with cap room being ($329,031). This is consistent with the salary cap report. However, the contract screen only shows my total salary for the upcoming season as $34,683,031 with no cut salary and no luxury tax. No one retired from my team in the offseason, if that matters.

I do see that I have a player with a player option for the following season for $5,950,000, which is nearly the same amount as the difference I'm seeing ($5,946,000).

[sianews]

Anyone seeing AI-to-AI trades? I've seen 1 in the past 8 seasons.

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by nZane

Having an odd salary display issue, using the latest patch.

On the Hot Seat, my total salary is displayed as $40,629,031 with cap room being ($329,031). This is consistent with the salary cap report. However, the contract screen only shows my total salary for the upcoming season as $34,683,031 with no cut salary and no luxury tax. No one retired from my team in the offseason, if that matters.

I do see that I have a player with a player option for the following season for $5,950,000, which is nearly the same amount as the difference I'm seeing ($5,946,000).

You have unused exceptions which take up cap space if you are below the cap.

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by sianews

Anyone seeing AI-to-AI trades? I've seen 1 in the past 8 seasons.

I'll be working on that

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by korme

heavy, I messed around with adding a historical league/teams for a game in Asia. It looks like everything is set up correctly in the csv's, but the teams don't load and the game crashes.

Could I send you some csvs and see what I'm doing wrong?

Did you ever send these or did you figure it out?