2018 MLB Thread - Page 8

JPhillips · 07-01-2018, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Whatever the story, the headline isn’t going to be, “Excellent Pitching Coaching in Cinncinnati Fixes Harvey.” Trust me, I’m not a fan but I live in the area. The Reds haven’t done wonders for any pitcher in an extremely long today time.

I'm not sure that's true with Darwin as the pitching coach.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-01-2018, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Break out the brooms, is this Atlanta team for real or do we just really suck? :P

I'm pretty sure your pitching is the suck.

MizzouRah · 07-01-2018, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I'm pretty sure your pitching is the suck.

SP has been great.. RP and hitting.. a mixed bag for sure, mostly thesuck!

Chief Rum · 07-02-2018, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Don't know if anyone does MLB DFS here, but I swept all the FD single entries today in the $1-$10 range. Also 9th in the grand slam. $3800 on $28 in entries. I usually do the $25 single entry also but didn't today

Well done! I don't recognize those contests (Fan Duel? I play DK), but I recognize the money. Way to go.

Logan · 07-02-2018, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

I would have to think that, "Not needing to worry about the fucking NY media" would be at the top of the list.

This wasn't a media problem. If he's "fixed", it's because he was lazy and/or apathetic during his last year+ here once faced with the inability to throw 97 anymore.

dawgfan · 07-02-2018, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Shkspr

"And that's how 'Turn the Clock Ahead' Night died a lonely, ignominious death."

Maybe, maybe not - it was a throwback to the first time they did "turn ahead the clock night" 20 years ago.

tarcone · 07-03-2018, 10:53 AM

What is a good web site to visit to see trade rumors and call ups and completed trades?

Something where the info isnt buried.

Scarecrow · 07-03-2018, 11:53 AM

MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

tarcone · 07-04-2018, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Scarecrow

MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

THANK YOU!

Exactly what I was looking for. Great resource.

tarcone · 07-04-2018, 11:02 AM

Would Yario Munoz and Dakota Hudson be enough for Baltimore? Shoot, throw in Wong or Gyorko.

Or Moose from KC. I imagine he would be cheaper to acquire.

PilotMan · 07-07-2018, 09:16 PM

Could we feasibly have a showcase game called pitchers vs. hitters?

tarcone · 07-15-2018, 09:02 AM

Matheny fired.

I cannot figure out why they dont hire Oquendo.

MizzouRah · 07-15-2018, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

Matheny fired.

I cannot figure out why they dont hire Oquendo.

Finally!

Hiring Oquendo was my first thought as well, he seems like a logical fit.

MrBug708 · 07-15-2018, 10:10 AM

Make it so, I want the Cards to stick to the Cardinal way and what better way than to hire a guy from the inside. One less big name for FA's to choose from.

Lathum · 07-18-2018, 08:12 AM

Eek!!!

https://deadspin.com/serving-up-a-th...ond-1827676441

tarcone · 07-18-2018, 09:45 PM

Cardinals need to sell

MLB: Manny Machado traded to Dodgers after All-Star Game

MrBug708 · 07-18-2018, 09:52 PM

For basically one guy

tarcone · 07-18-2018, 09:58 PM

Or maybe not.

Report: Manny Machado deal between Orioles, Dodgers may have hit a snag

PilotMan · 07-18-2018, 10:24 PM

So LA gives up their #4, #27, and #28 prospects along with 2 other lower tier guys for Machado, for a couple months. My lower level OOTP projects never turn out. So if it is part works to tip the scales, then so be it.

MizzouRah · 07-23-2018, 10:39 PM

I've had it with this Cardinals team. Guy throws a no hitter through 7 innings and our shitty bullpen blows another game. Terrible base running by Pham and Molina as well as leaving in Morris to lose the game.

I can't stomach this team anymore until they make some moves.

JPhillips · 07-23-2018, 10:48 PM

I don't know, seemed like a good game to me.

tarcone · 07-23-2018, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I've had it with this Cardinals team. Guy throws a no hitter through 7 innings and our shitty bullpen blows another game. Terrible base running by Pham and Molina as well as leaving in Morris to lose the game.

I can't stomach this team anymore until they make some moves.

This team is as bad or worse than last years sad sack bunch. 500 talent will net you 500.
If Mo doesnt make some moves before the deadline, he needs to go.

MizzouRah · 07-23-2018, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

This team is as bad or worse than last years sad sack bunch. 500 talent will net you 500.
If Mo doesnt make some moves before the deadline, he needs to go.

We need a DEEP clean. There are too many to name, but my list also includes Carlos Martinez.

tarcone · 07-23-2018, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

We need a DEEP clean. There are too many to name, but my list also includes Carlos Martinez.

Yep. At this point Im ready to be a seller. Get some young bats to go with those young arms. Martinez is easily replaced and would get a big haul.

lungs · 07-23-2018, 11:26 PM

How about ten years of mediocrity in St. Louis?

Come on, I've done 30+ years, it'll be a breeze!

SackAttack · 07-24-2018, 12:19 AM

After the way those motherfuckers kept throwing at Ramirez in the playoffs a few years ago, I'm down for 50+ years of mediocrity in St. Louis.

"The Cardinals Way" my fucking ass.

MrBug708 · 07-24-2018, 07:05 AM

The Cards do need a switch in philosophy as the "Cardinal Way" is a tired and obsolete methodology. It was fantastic when it was working but baseball has moved away from that style. Plus it makes it hard when the Front Office can't hack into other teams system and steal their scouting reports

MizzouRah · 07-24-2018, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by lungs

How about ten years of mediocrity in St. Louis?

Come on, I've done 30+ years, it'll be a breeze!

I've had enough pain with our hockey team.

stevew · 07-25-2018, 11:54 AM

Break up the Pirates

stevew · 07-25-2018, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

What is a good web site to visit to see trade rumors and call ups and completed trades?

Something where the info isnt buried.

I need a site that shows movie ratings, actors, and aligns everything in a easy to use database, preferably on the Internet.

stevew · 07-27-2018, 09:38 AM

Kind of cool that the Braves got Venters back from the Rays.

Also some talk about legislating against the shift. I don’t know what the correct way to handle it would be, but it will just continue to grow. Between this and pitching changes I think there’s room for improvement.

MrBug708 · 07-27-2018, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Kind of cool that the Braves got Venters back from the Rays.

Also some talk about legislating against the shift. I don’t know what the correct way to handle it would be, but it will just continue to grow. Between this and pitching changes I think there’s room for improvement.

I think we need a specific mark on the field where all players must stand. Expecting players like Joey Gallo to figure out how to lay down a bunt is pretty unreasonable.

Ksyrup · 07-27-2018, 10:51 AM

Did anyone see Olbermann's report on the statistical analysis on shifts? It actually increases offensive output.

The real problem is, the type of offensive output that it increases - walks and HRs. If part of the issue is the lack of action (balls in play and on-field action), then there's an argument for doing something about shifts. If the argument is that shifts are stifling offense, that's technically not true. The more drastic the shift alignment, the higher the offensive output.

Baseball's issue is that statistical analysis has proven that hitting the ball in the air is the better strategy because it increases HRs. This is essentially the equivalent to basketball moving to an extreme 3-point strategy. Hitting the ball on the ground is the equivalent to low post play. You don't score as much per possession/AB as if you throw up a bunch of 3s/hit the ball in the air.

JPhillips · 07-27-2018, 03:34 PM

I think it's inevitable that we'll end up with more house rules that reduce efficiency but make the game more fun.

Toddzilla · 07-27-2018, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

I need a site that shows movie ratings, actors, and aligns everything in a easy to use database, preferably on the Internet.

well played, sir

PilotMan · 07-29-2018, 03:58 PM

No hitter alert. The Braves, Newcomb is 3 outs from no hitting the Dodgers. The game is on TBS.

MrBug708 · 07-29-2018, 04:20 PM

Damn, with 2 outs too

Vince, Pt. II · 07-29-2018, 04:23 PM

And two strikes on the hitter.

PilotMan · 07-29-2018, 04:24 PM

So close. SNLA had a bunch of great close ups of him before he threw those pitches. You could tell his breathing was way up, he was totally pumped up and ready. Would have been cool to see that get finished off.

PilotMan · 07-31-2018, 04:37 PM

This has been one of the busiest deadline days that I can remember in recent years.

CraigSca · 07-31-2018, 04:43 PM

Orioles should be a fun team to watch the rest of the year. (where is the vomit emoji?)

PilotMan · 07-31-2018, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigSca

Orioles should be a fun team to watch the rest of the year. (where is the vomit emoji?)

Does it feel like you've just now hit that point? Cause I got some bad news for you.

cartman · 07-31-2018, 05:36 PM

The Rangers suck this year, but it looks like Beltre will retire as a Ranger.

MizzouRah · 07-31-2018, 07:04 PM

Only trade we make is getting rid of Pham? Seems like an odd trade to me. (my guess is due to him speaking out against the management)

panerd · 07-31-2018, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Only trade we make is getting rid of Pham? Seems like an odd trade to me. (my guess is due to him speaking out against the management)

Seems like Shildt is a company man. They paid Fowler all that money and want him to play so he plays. Holland and Pham talk about the brass and they are gone. Not necessarily a bad thing could never figure out mathenys management strategies like Alydemys Diaz being in the minors or where Gyerko was going to play. At least Shildt seems to be putting out a consistant lineup. Martinez seems to be the most likely next one to go.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-31-2018, 08:16 PM

fwiw, I don't hate the Braves pick up of Gausman from the O's.

The prospects they sent back weren't awful but they weren't high end either.
That seems like a reasonable price to pay in this case.

MrBug708 · 07-31-2018, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

The Rangers suck this year, but it looks like Beltre will retire as a Ranger.

8 years as a Ranger, does he go in as a Ranger since he spent more time not a Ranger than he did as one?

stevew · 07-31-2018, 09:06 PM

Redskins killing the Jets today

MizzouRah · 07-31-2018, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by panerd

Seems like Shildt is a company man. They paid Fowler all that money and want him to play so he plays. Holland and Pham talk about the brass and they are gone. Not necessarily a bad thing could never figure out mathenys management strategies like Alydemys Diaz being in the minors or where Gyerko was going to play. At least Shildt seems to be putting out a consistant lineup. Martinez seems to be the most likely next one to go.

Yeah that was my take as well. I do like consistency with Shildt, but we are not a playoff team, 2019 could be huge and we needed to move more imho. Now, that doesn't mean we didn't try and couldn't get much, but I would have moved Fowler for a rookie league nobody.

I wanted more of a youth movement to see what we had the rest of the season, then dig into the pocketbook and go out and add to this SP staff.

BYU 14 · 08-01-2018, 06:13 PM

Sonny Gray is turning into the 2018 version of Ed Whitson, knocked out of the box in the 3rd by Baltimore. So glad the Yanks picked up Happ.

07-03-2018, 10:53 AM	#357
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	What is a good web site to visit to see trade rumors and call ups and completed trades? Something where the info isnt buried. __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

07-03-2018, 11:53 AM	#358
Scarecrow College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Flatlands of America	MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com __________________ Post Count: Eleventy Billion - so deal with it!

07-04-2018, 11:02 AM	#360
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Would Yario Munoz and Dakota Hudson be enough for Baltimore? Shoot, throw in Wong or Gyorko. Or Moose from KC. I imagine he would be cheaper to acquire. __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

07-07-2018, 09:16 PM	#361
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Could we feasibly have a showcase game called pitchers vs. hitters? __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

07-15-2018, 09:02 AM	#362
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Matheny fired. I cannot figure out why they dont hire Oquendo. __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

07-15-2018, 10:10 AM	#364
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Make it so, I want the Cards to stick to the Cardinal way and what better way than to hire a guy from the inside. One less big name for FA's to choose from.

07-18-2018, 08:12 AM	#365
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Eek!!! https://deadspin.com/serving-up-a-th...ond-1827676441

07-18-2018, 09:45 PM	#366
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Cardinals need to sell MLB: Manny Machado traded to Dodgers after All-Star Game __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

07-18-2018, 09:52 PM	#367
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	For basically one guy

07-18-2018, 09:58 PM	#368
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Or maybe not. Report: Manny Machado deal between Orioles, Dodgers may have hit a snag __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

07-18-2018, 10:24 PM	#369
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	So LA gives up their #4, #27, and #28 prospects along with 2 other lower tier guys for Machado, for a couple months. My lower level OOTP projects never turn out. So if it is part works to tip the scales, then so be it. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

07-23-2018, 10:39 PM	#370
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	I've had it with this Cardinals team. Guy throws a no hitter through 7 innings and our shitty bullpen blows another game. Terrible base running by Pham and Molina as well as leaving in Morris to lose the game. I can't stomach this team anymore until they make some moves.

07-23-2018, 10:48 PM	#371
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	I don't know, seemed like a good game to me. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

07-23-2018, 11:26 PM	#375
lungs Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Prairie du Sac, WI	How about ten years of mediocrity in St. Louis? Come on, I've done 30+ years, it'll be a breeze!

07-24-2018, 12:19 AM	#376
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	After the way those motherfuckers kept throwing at Ramirez in the playoffs a few years ago, I'm down for 50+ years of mediocrity in St. Louis. "The Cardinals Way" my fucking ass.

07-24-2018, 07:05 AM	#377
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	The Cards do need a switch in philosophy as the "Cardinal Way" is a tired and obsolete methodology. It was fantastic when it was working but baseball has moved away from that style. Plus it makes it hard when the Front Office can't hack into other teams system and steal their scouting reports

07-25-2018, 11:54 AM	#379
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Break up the Pirates

07-27-2018, 09:38 AM	#381
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Kind of cool that the Braves got Venters back from the Rays. Also some talk about legislating against the shift. I don’t know what the correct way to handle it would be, but it will just continue to grow. Between this and pitching changes I think there’s room for improvement.

07-27-2018, 10:51 AM	#383
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Did anyone see Olbermann's report on the statistical analysis on shifts? It actually increases offensive output. The real problem is, the type of offensive output that it increases - walks and HRs. If part of the issue is the lack of action (balls in play and on-field action), then there's an argument for doing something about shifts. If the argument is that shifts are stifling offense, that's technically not true. The more drastic the shift alignment, the higher the offensive output. Baseball's issue is that statistical analysis has proven that hitting the ball in the air is the better strategy because it increases HRs. This is essentially the equivalent to basketball moving to an extreme 3-point strategy. Hitting the ball on the ground is the equivalent to low post play. You don't score as much per possession/AB as if you throw up a bunch of 3s/hit the ball in the air. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

07-27-2018, 03:34 PM	#384
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	I think it's inevitable that we'll end up with more house rules that reduce efficiency but make the game more fun. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

07-29-2018, 03:58 PM	#386
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	No hitter alert. The Braves, Newcomb is 3 outs from no hitting the Dodgers. The game is on TBS. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam Last edited by PilotMan : 07-29-2018 at 04:12 PM.

07-29-2018, 04:20 PM	#387
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Damn, with 2 outs too

07-29-2018, 04:23 PM	#388
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	And two strikes on the hitter.

07-29-2018, 04:24 PM	#389
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	So close. SNLA had a bunch of great close ups of him before he threw those pitches. You could tell his breathing was way up, he was totally pumped up and ready. Would have been cool to see that get finished off. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

07-31-2018, 04:37 PM	#390
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	This has been one of the busiest deadline days that I can remember in recent years. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

07-31-2018, 04:43 PM	#391
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	Orioles should be a fun team to watch the rest of the year. (where is the vomit emoji?) __________________ She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! She loves you, yeah! how do you know? how do you know?

07-31-2018, 05:36 PM	#393
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	The Rangers suck this year, but it looks like Beltre will retire as a Ranger. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

07-31-2018, 07:04 PM	#394
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Only trade we make is getting rid of Pham? Seems like an odd trade to me. (my guess is due to him speaking out against the management) Last edited by MizzouRah : 07-31-2018 at 07:04 PM.

07-31-2018, 08:16 PM	#396
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	fwiw, I don't hate the Braves pick up of Gausman from the O's. The prospects they sent back weren't awful but they weren't high end either. That seems like a reasonable price to pay in this case. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

07-31-2018, 09:06 PM	#398
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Redskins killing the Jets today

08-01-2018, 06:13 PM	#400
BYU 14 Coordinator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The scorched Desert	Sonny Gray is turning into the 2018 version of Ed Whitson, knocked out of the box in the 3rd by Baltimore. So glad the Yanks picked up Happ.

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